Nascar Racing 3

Does anyone know if you will be able to use the steering wheel in Nascar Racing 3. I can use if for Nascar Racing 2 but I'm not sure if u can use it for Nascar Racing 3. Tell me if anyone knows. Thanks!!

You are obviously a new guy on the track ;-) With out seeing N3 or hearing anything from Papy on the subject, I'd assume that you will be able to use it. My reasoning is that you could use a wheel in Indy500, Indycar racing, Nascar Racing, Indy car Racing-2, Nascar racing-2, Nascar 99, Nascar 50th, Nascar BGN, NasTrucks, GPL, GPL 1.1, Did I miss any of Papy's Sims? or put these in the wrong chronological order? Mike Barlow > Does anyone know if you will be able to use the steering wheel in Nascar > Racing 3. I can use if for Nascar Racing 2 but I'm not sure if u can use > it for Nascar Racing 3. Tell me if anyone knows. Thanks!! -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

Which other controller would you suggest for a racing simulation? I think it's safe to say you will be able to use a wheel in N3 (or N2000 or whatever they're gonna call it). Jan. ------ >Does anyone know if you will be able to use the steering wheel in Nascar >Racing 3. I can use if for Nascar Racing 2 but I'm not sure if u can use >it for Nascar Racing 3. Tell me if anyone knows. Thanks!!

Unless of course Sierra decides that wheel support is unnecessary and they can save money and force Papy to remove it from the product <VBG> ;)) They have keyboards... Why do they need wheels?? Maybe they will design a new force feedback keyboard that pushes the keys back out at you in response ROFL =) Scott PA-Scott -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450

I don't know what to say! Am i dreaming? Helllllloooooo!!!!!???? Borut > Does anyone know if you will be able to use the steering wheel in Nascar > Racing 3. I can use if for Nascar Racing 2 but I'm not sure if u can use > it for Nascar Racing 3. Tell me if anyone knows. Thanks!!

Actually slightly out of order: Indy500 Indycar Racing Nascar Racing Indycar Racing 2 Nascar Racing 2 Nascar 50th Nascar BGN expansion pack GPL Nascar Racing 1999 Nascar Truck Racing GPL 1.1 I do believe thats right, but of course feel free to correct it...not that it matters much. :)

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> You are obviously a new guy on the track ;-) With out seeing N3 or > hearing anything from Papy on the subject, I'd assume that you will be > able to use it. My reasoning is that you could use a wheel in Indy500, > Indycar racing, Nascar Racing, Indy car Racing-2, Nascar racing-2, > Nascar 99, Nascar 50th, Nascar BGN, NasTrucks, GPL, GPL 1.1, Did I > miss any of Papy's Sims? or put these in the wrong chronological order? > Mike Barlow > > Does anyone know if you will be able to use the steering wheel in Nascar > > Racing 3. I can use if for Nascar Racing 2 but I'm not sure if u can use > > it for Nascar Racing 3. Tell me if anyone knows. Thanks!! > -- > ========================================= > Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? > ========================================= > Racing online with the help of...... > Race Communications Association > http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html > Holodyne Engineering > Mystic Music > (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

I'm sorry, steering wheel support will not be included in Nascar3. Signed, David Grenewetski, President, Sierra > Does anyone know if you will be able to use the steering wheel in Nascar > Racing 3. I can use if for Nascar Racing 2 but I'm not sure if u can use > it for Nascar Racing 3. Tell me if anyone knows. Thanks!!

Maybe they will design a new force way too damn funny..... ROFLMAOASTC daaaa-aamm that's cold..........

sorry adam, i know there will be some steering wheel in it, but my question was that will they alow mine. If they don't have any steering wheel's alowed at all, they would be screwing themselves there. Don't even try pulling that shit on me.

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> I'm sorry, steering wheel support will not be included in Nascar3. > Signed, > David Grenewetski, President, Sierra > > Does anyone know if you will be able to use the steering wheel in Nascar > > Racing 3. I can use if for Nascar Racing 2 but I'm not sure if u can use > > it for Nascar Racing 3. Tell me if anyone knows. Thanks!!

No you can't unfortunately. Papy decided that modern sim technology did not quite do justice to the use of a steering wheel and so decided to leave it out. It may be included in a later patch, though...? :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824

Just looking at that list...at first things were even ICR1, N1, ICR2, N2 then it just went to all Nascar sims. After how well ICR2 did, and how long it stood as #1, you would think they would do another one! ------------------------------------------------------------ Adam Zerlin GT Insider Webmaster www.gtinsider.com ------------------------------------------------------------ GT International Championship Organizer [link lost in import: /***.com] ------------------------------------------------------------

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>Actually slightly out of order: >Indy500 >Indycar Racing >Nascar Racing >Indycar Racing 2 >Nascar Racing 2 >Nascar 50th >Nascar BGN expansion pack >GPL >Nascar Racing 1999 >Nascar Truck Racing >GPL 1.1 >I do believe thats right, but of course feel free to correct it...not that >it matters much. :) >> You are obviously a new guy on the track ;-) With out seeing N3 or >> hearing anything from Papy on the subject, I'd assume that you will be >> able to use it. My reasoning is that you could use a wheel in Indy500, >> Indycar racing, Nascar Racing, Indy car Racing-2, Nascar racing-2, >> Nascar 99, Nascar 50th, Nascar BGN, NasTrucks, GPL, GPL 1.1, Did I >> miss any of Papy's Sims? or put these in the wrong chronological order? >> Mike Barlow >> > Does anyone know if you will be able to use the steering wheel in

Nascar >> > Racing 3. I can use if for Nascar Racing 2 but I'm not sure if u can use

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>> > it for Nascar Racing 3. Tell me if anyone knows. Thanks!! >> -- >> ========================================= >> Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? >> ========================================= >> Racing online with the help of...... >> Race Communications Association >> http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html >> Holodyne Engineering >> Mystic Music >> (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

>sorry adam, i know there will be some steering wheel in it, but my >question was that will they alow mine. No. They will allow *everyones* wheel but yours. Here's the code... Wheel.NotWork() else Wheel.Work() Me, I'm just waiting for my Logitech FF wheel and GPL so I can start driving. :-) -- "The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals. We cause accidents." -- Nathaniel Borenstein

>sorry adam, i know there will be some steering wheel in it, but my >question was that will they alow mine. If they don't have any steering >wheel's alowed at all, they would be screwing themselves there. Don't >even try pulling that shit on me. If your wheel is supported by windows, 99.9% chance it will work in the game just fine. If you have an analog wheel you can even have it setup as a joystick and it should be fine. What wheel do you have by the way? Adam

IT's not Papyrus who did SODA off road racing ???

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> Actually slightly out of order: > Indy500 > Indycar Racing > Nascar Racing > Indycar Racing 2 > Nascar Racing 2 > Nascar 50th > Nascar BGN expansion pack > GPL > Nascar Racing 1999 > Nascar Truck Racing > GPL 1.1

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In correct order: Indycar Racing 1 Expansion track pack 1993 Indycar Racing 1 Indianapolis + paintkit expansion set 1994 Nascar Racing Expansion track pack 1995 Upcoming are Nascar Racing 3 1999 Legends of Nascar 1999(?) Nascar Racing 4 2000 Having fun nitpicking a little, but I think the real years are not 100% true for all. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

forgot about that one..... I thought it WAS Papy......

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>IT's not Papyrus who did SODA off road racing ??? >> Actually slightly out of order: >> Indy500 >> Indycar Racing >> Nascar Racing >> Indycar Racing 2 >> Nascar Racing 2 >> Nascar 50th >> Nascar BGN expansion pack >> GPL >> Nascar Racing 1999 >> Nascar Truck Racing >> GPL 1.1 >-- >==================================== >Sbastien Tixier - Game Developper

1996 surely?. Amazing that a sim getting on for three years old is still the one that attracts the most online racers. Just goes to show what an incredible franchise TEN is wasting.... Cheers, Richard

Yes 1996.. oops IndyCar Racing 2 1995 As for your comments, Im not sure that TEN is the correct company to point here. Remember that SIERRA owns the NROS and they decide whatever they want, unfortunately. I know the NROS Officials and employees, I know that they would really want new stuff, new tracks, new options, etc.. Remember the idea that we had to put a restrictor plate on/off option for Talladega but also all the other tracks, Sierra didn't want it. So I guess we should target our flames to them, not TEN. TEN is only working with the tools they have. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

That's not really the sort of thing I am considering. I know that Sierra owns what it owns. But where's the advertising for TEN? Hundreds race every night but there are many thousands who could also be competing. If the most popular racing environment can be so without overt advertising, just think how big it could be with it! And what about upgrades that are under TEN's control to make? Does Sierra mandate that they use an ergonomically poor front end? Does Sierra forbid them from putting up a race board? Does Sierra force them to adopt a network architecture which means that two separate flows of data to very different sites (both geographically and in terms of internet topology) have to be maintained or you get booted from a race? Personally, I think TEN and the guys running NROS deserve to succeed. They stepped up to the plate when no other comparable service was available and they *still* provide the best online racing environment. But they are wasting the effort they have put in. By not actively marketing and doing whatever they can to visibly improve the service they are sowing the seeds of their own demise. Usage may or may not be rising, but in the world of the internet, if you're not measuring growth rates in terms of doubling every few months you are going backwards - and they are certainly not generating anything like that sort of growth. That's why I consider TEN to be "wasting" the franchise they have acquired. It's not a flame, just sadness and frustration that what was a great leap forward in mass appeal online sim racing looks like it could all too easily end up drifting away to nothing :( Cheers, Richard

umm, everything was correct their except for the last bits. Nascar 3 is not going to be out in 99. Nacar 3 has been postponed for quite some time. They have screenshots for nascar 3 at www.papy.com. but actually that is going to be Nascar 2000, which is simply based on the Nascar 2 engine, but they've souped it up, and gave translucent smoke, and better 3d acceleration that will support D3D. I won't be called nascar 3 when it comes out. Nascar 3 when it comes out, no later than 2000, will be based on a BETTER version of GPL(the greatest sim of all time). The reason they postponed the project is because of the resource problems in GPL. Imagine 32+ cars on track at the same time, all tightly bunched together with graphics and physics even more complex than GPL. That would take HUGE amounts of memory, and proccessor power. So it has been postponed. I will try and find the article where I got this info from. Its on the net somewhere. I hope this wasn't too confusing. I even confuse my self sometimes. Thanks. -jeremy

says... Actually, Papy has renamed the sim once again (a month or two ago) to "Nascar Racing 3". Last I heard, it will have better (and different) car shapes, modified (but *NOT* GPL) physics, improved sounds, better graphic effects, force-feedback wheel support, and will allow many more than 20 cars (they're trying for 40) online in any given race. The "Nascar Racing Legends" sim will probably (and more obviously) utilize the car shape feature in an effort to depict the unique Chevy, Ford, Pontiac, and Chrysler body styles. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html Barbarian Diecast Collector (370+ cars and counting) http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html Internet Grand Prix Series Season 2 http://www.paddedwall.org/igps2/igps2.html North American Stockcar Racing Online Competition http://www.paddedwall.org/nasroc1/nasroc1.html Super X Philes http://members.home.net/kap/superx/superx.html If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

time. Sure I know this since a long time ago, but the current title is still N3, not N2000. Naw sorry that's just a PR make-up. Just give us a # of AI slider until PC are enough powerful to run with more cars. Papyrus has a long tradition of releasing simulation that were too powerful for their era. Indy500:The Simulation, Nascar1, GPL, etc.. So it's quite an irrelevant point for them to say such things. The real reason is that Sierra still wants to milk money out of the old game engine, with the nice sellings of NR99. It's cheap to produce, not much R&D, the tracks were almost already done by the 2dartists, etc.. Of course that won't ever appear in PR. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."