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Is GPL worth gettting?

28 posts by 26 people · 08 Jun 1999 - 13 Jun 1999

Is GPL worth buying in the bargain bin?

Rick May asked whether GPL, now under 20 pounds, was still worth buying compared with Monaco Grand Prix Racing Simulation 2. Replies were nearly unanimous that GPL was the best sim available for physics and sound, though harder to learn and needing a 3dfx or Rendition card. TNT owners were pointed to the beta OpenGL patch, with frame-rate settings shared.

review/impressionsgame comparisonGrand Prix LegendsMonaco Grand Prix Racing Simulation 2

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Err, sorry but Monaco Grand Prix is ancient compared to GPL. Go out and buy it! It is the best sim out there, BUT, it is not a 'game'. So don't expect an easy time. Get to know the period (1967), and the cars, and it is the most rewarding experience in sim reacing. Steve >I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or >is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model compare to >Monaco grand prix? >Thanks, > Rick.
Rick Ma 08 Jun 1999#472710
I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model compare to Monaco grand prix? Thanks, Rick.
Remco Moedt 08 Jun 1999#472711
>I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or >is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model compare to >Monaco grand prix? Download the demo at http://www.papy.com and see yourself Remco
Its still the grand daddy of racing sims. Nothing too date has passed it. Its a definite buy! Scott PA-Scott -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450
>I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or >is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model compare to >Monaco grand prix? GPL is the best car simulator I have ever tried. MGP pales in comparison. K.S. Br?nnick
Just make sure you have the hardware to support it, like a fast processor, VooDoo card or Rendition, etc. Its by far the best. Its a simulator more than a game. No easy at first.
Driver 08 Jun 1999#472715
>I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or >is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model compare to >Monaco grand prix? I think MGPRS2 (Monaco GP) is a great sim, but GPL is the best racing sim out. The greastest sim ever made in my opinion. The graphics in MGPRS2 are a little more flashy (it's a prefrence thing, I prefer MGPRS2's graphics). The physics model in GPL is incredable. The physics model in MGPRS2 is probably the best current F1 sim (although GP2 was probably better). Also the sounds in GPL are the best in any racing sim, MGPRS2 doesn't even have as good of sounds as some F1 arcade games.
Graeme Nash 08 Jun 1999#472716
Not as lurid/flashy, but still very, very good. Beyond comparison (IMHO). It's *the best*. -- Cheers! Graeme Nash http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk ICQ# 11257824 ________________________________________________________________________________ "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" (Calvin & Hobbes)
Bobby Al 08 Jun 1999#472717
Any support for Riva TNT chipsets though, yet? I avoided it with a bargepole because it doesn't come with native Direct3d support (or Force Feedback), and software mode (in the demo) was truly abysmal. (P333, 64meg RAM, TNT)
>Any support for Riva TNT chipsets though, yet? I avoided it with a bargepole >because it doesn't come with native Direct3d support (or Force Feedback), >and software mode (in the demo) was truly abysmal. (P333, 64meg RAM, TNT) The TNT OpenGL support is still officially Beta, mainly because the OpenGL call that maps the images on the rearview mirrors is very slow in nvidia's ICD. It still works very well for me at 1024X768 with mirrors updating every fourth frame. You might want to look into a Celeron - I'm running a 400 at 450MHz (running the bus at 75MHz), as your 333 might be on the slow side for GPL. Rick
Steve 08 Jun 1999#472719
I don't think anybody could have said it better than peter did, i just wish that my significant other lasted to 7.000 rpms. Steve! > On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:35:15 +0100, "Rick May" > >I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or > >is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model compare to
Quoted text (21 lines)> >Monaco grand prix? > >Thanks, > > Rick. > Worth buying? It'd be a steal for double that price. > I'll tell you another great reason (apart from the physics model and > graphics) to buy Grand Prix Legends: the SOUNDS!!! > You'll find NO other simulator out there that will make your hair > stand up on end and small horns grow on your forehead like GPL does. > Crank up them speakers, plonk yerself down in a Ferrari or a BRM 115 > and let her rip! When the revs climb to 7.000 rpm your significant > other will fall out of bed. At 8.000 rpm the neighbors will call the > police. At 9.000 rpm small birds will drop dead from the trees. At > 10.000 rpm choirs of angels will start to sing. > I might be exaggerating _a bit_ but you get the picture... :-) > /petern
Hot Pant 08 Jun 1999#472720
>I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or >is it getting a bit old? Do buy. It is the Peter North of racing simulations. And it looks as if nothing will even approach it for quite some time.
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:35:15 +0100, "Rick May" >I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or >is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model compare to >Monaco grand prix? >Thanks, > Rick. Worth buying? It'd be a steal for double that price. I'll tell you another great reason (apart from the physics model and graphics) to buy Grand Prix Legends: the SOUNDS!!! You'll find NO other simulator out there that will make your hair stand up on end and small horns grow on your forehead like GPL does. Crank up them speakers, plonk yerself down in a Ferrari or a BRM 115 and let her rip! When the revs climb to 7.000 rpm your significant other will fall out of bed. At 8.000 rpm the neighbors will call the police. At 9.000 rpm small birds will drop dead from the trees. At 10.000 rpm choirs of angels will start to sing. I might be exaggerating _a bit_ but you get the picture... :-) /petern
Swindell 09 Jun 1999#472949
MGPRS2 is like Jean Aleasi. Obviously a very talented and gifted driver, but flawed. He has one victory to his name, in almost 10 years of F1. GPL, however, is like Michael Schumacher _without_ the Adelaide'94 and Jerez'97 incidents. Need I say more? :) That's my comparison. Rob Oh, I don't know! Does anyone actually read these sig's anyway!? "You will respect my awforataaaay!"
Thom j. 09 Jun 1999#472951
Yes I agree Steve but be careful "coz" if you pump-up the volume too much it will be your "X-significant other".. Right?? Just funnin! Cheers Thom_j.
Quoted text (13 lines)> I don't think anybody could have said it better than peter did, > i just wish that my significant other lasted to 7.000 rpms. > Steve! > > On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:35:15 +0100, "Rick May" > > >I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, > or > > >is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model
compare
Quoted text (22 lines)> to > > >Monaco grand prix? > > >Thanks, > > > Rick. > > Worth buying? It'd be a steal for double that price. > > I'll tell you another great reason (apart from the physics model and > > graphics) to buy Grand Prix Legends: the SOUNDS!!! > > You'll find NO other simulator out there that will make your hair > > stand up on end and small horns grow on your forehead like GPL does. > > Crank up them speakers, plonk yerself down in a Ferrari or a BRM 115 > > and let her rip! When the revs climb to 7.000 rpm your significant > > other will fall out of bed. At 8.000 rpm the neighbors will call the > > police. At 9.000 rpm small birds will drop dead from the trees. At > > 10.000 rpm choirs of angels will start to sing. > > I might be exaggerating _a bit_ but you get the picture... :-) > > /petern
Kirk Lane 09 Jun 1999#472952
YES. It's a pain to drive, but if you learn how, it will be THE best SIM you have EVER played. As long as your hardware's up to snuff, the graphics are stunning and fast; a good soundcard & speakers will make you feel like you're really sitting in the***pit of a Ferrari with a V12 wailing at 10,000 RPM behind you; basically put, IT RULES! :D -- Kirk Lane Tempe, AZ ICQ: 28171652 RMRL #119 >I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or >is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model compare to >Monaco grand prix? >Thanks, > Rick.
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:22:09 -0700, "Hot Pants" >>I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or >>is it getting a bit old? >Do buy. It is the Peter North of racing simulations. >And it looks as if nothing will even approach it for quite some time. LOL!!! Couldn't help laughing out loud when I read this. Luckily my GF didn't hear me so I won't have to explain the joke. /petern
Dave Hawnt 10 Jun 1999#473199
> I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or > is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model compare to > Monaco grand prix? Nah... don't buy it! It will ruin your life.... i.e. late nights, neglect the family, get no other work done, cause you to upgrade your PC in the quest for more 'fps', and give you so much fun it will make you sick. Be sensible, get a lesser sim and keep your life!Dave Hawnt
Chris 10 Jun 1999#473200
I run a PII-300 and an 8MB Thriller and get the following results: Online: 640x480 All graphics boxes checked except anti-aliasing, spectral hilites, dynamic lighting, and skid marks. Detail slider about 1/4 distance from the left. Six sounds, if I remember correctly. 36fps all the time. Offline: 800x600 All graphics boxes checked except anti-aliasing. Detail slider about 1/4-1/3 distance from the left. Six sounds. 19 AI drivers. 24-32fps from the back of the grid depending on the track. 36fps 90% of the time everywhere else unless there is a crash or something that stacks the AI up. Smoke and dust do cause a bit of a slowdown in both modes. -Chris- ---Two wheels are better ---Proud owner of a 1998 ZX-9R Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Chris 10 Jun 1999#473201
I run a PII-300 and an 8MB Thriller and get the following results: Online: 640x480 All graphics boxes checked except anti-aliasing, spectral hilites, dynamic lighting, and skid marks. Detail slider about 1/4 distance from the left. Six sounds, if I remember correctly. Mirrors set at the middle detail setting. 36fps all the time. Offline: 800x600 All graphics boxes checked except anti-aliasing. Detail slider about 1/4-1/3 distance from the left. Six sounds. 19 AI drivers. Mirrors set at the middle detail setting 24-32fps from the back of the grid depending on the track. 36fps 90% of the time everywhere else unless there is a crash or something that stacks the AI up. Smoke and dust do cause a bit of a slowdown in both modes. -Chris- ---Two wheels are better ---Proud owner of a 1998 ZX-9R Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
m.seery 10 Jun 1999#473202
Aha. That's why I don't win too often. I use a P200mmx <G> Mark
LOL. > I've seen it in my local store fo under 20 pounds. Is it worth buying, or > is it getting a bit old? How do the graphics, and physics model compare to > Monaco grand prix? > Thanks, > Rick.
It may very well be the very best simulator released....this includes some terrific Flight sims....that just dont measure up to the perfection of GPL. GPL is seriously fun....seriously hard....and absolutely satisfying beyond any other game I have tried on a computer. PAPA DOC Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand Falcon 4 Instructor Pilot Su-27 Pink Flamingo Pilot...<VBG> http://www.papadoc.net Home of the FALCON 4 Benchmark
Quoted text (8 lines)>It may very well be the very best simulator released....this includes >some terrific Flight sims....that just dont measure up to the >perfection of GPL. >GPL is seriously fun....seriously hard....and absolutely satisfying >beyond any other game I have tried on a computer. >PAPA DOC
And for you especially you can go round to the Flugplatz and take off Alan http://www.chandler.u-net.com
> All graphics boxes checked except anti-aliasing, > spectral hilites, dynamic lighting, and skid marks. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just to make sure you don't miss that variant... :) -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.
ymenard 13 Jun 1999#473747
> > All graphics boxes checked except anti-aliasing, > > spectral hilites, dynamic lighting, and skid marks. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Just to make sure you don't miss that variant... :) Im sure it's actually a neurotic-testing *** between the NSA and Papyrus... Each time somebody makes an error on r.a.s. about those options, his name is beeing added to a log file in Area 51. spectral highlights dynamic lightning specular highlights lightning aliasing dynamic speculars lightning dynamics alienate spectrum AHHHHHHHHHH! <ymenard's head explodes> -- ;) -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

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