F1RS only sold 12,570 copies in U.S.???

According to a feature at Gamecenter.com, F1RS sold only 12,570 copies in the U.S. It is part of a list of the top ten greatest, but poor-selling games. http://www.gamecenter.com/Features/Exclusives/Notbought/ss06.html -- Remove "spam jammer" to reply Graffiti seen above a urinal in East Grand Forks, MN: "Please don't eat the big white mints!" My Yahoo! pager ID is Galley_SimRacer

Sold about 350,000 worldwide though! Looks like the US has missed out again! Iain

> According to a feature at Gamecenter.com, F1RS sold only 12,570 copies in > the U.S. It is part of a list of the top ten greatest, but poor-selling > games. > http://www.gamecenter.com/Features/Exclusives/Notbought/ss06.html > -- Yeah? And what about the great Superbike World championship from EA Sports? According to the same article, it only sold 7000+ copies! What a shame! Philster

Maybe many people in the US did what I did. I ordered the British version months before the US version was released here. There are probably many others who did the same. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >Sold about 350,000 worldwide though! Looks like the US has missed out again! >Iain >> According to a feature at Gamecenter.com, F1RS sold only 12,570 copies in >> the U.S. It is part of a list of the top ten greatest, but poor-selling >> games. >> http://www.gamecenter.com/Features/Exclusives/Notbought/ss06.html >> -- >> Remove "spam jammer" to reply >> Graffiti seen above a urinal in East Grand Forks, MN: >> "Please don't eat the big white mints!" >> My Yahoo! pager ID is Galley_SimRacer

Well the F1rs rollout here in the States, reminds me of the EF2000 fiasco. Did we see a bunch of print adds?? Did we ever get a big internet announcement? Did we hear on RAS about patch after patch? Did we ever know when the US release was "really" comming? First time I saw F1rs in a store was in the discount bin. There are lots of reasons products don't sell. some are more clear than others. dave henrie

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>> According to a feature at Gamecenter.com, F1RS sold only 12,570 copies in >> the U.S. It is part of a list of the top ten greatest, but poor-selling >> games. >> http://www.gamecenter.com/Features/Exclusives/Notbought/ss06.html >> -- >> Remove "spam jammer" to reply >> Graffiti seen above a urinal in East Grand Forks, MN: >> "Please don't eat the big white mints!" >> My Yahoo! pager ID is Galley_SimRacer

Eh let's see... 350 000 + 12,570 = 362,570. David, where is those million copy sold of F1RS like you said? It seems that nobody talks about MGPRS2 and F1RS anymore here. Not that I have anything against that ;-P <sarcasm> -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:44:33 -0500, "Greg Cisko" >Maybe many people in the US did what I did. I ordered the British >version months before the US version was released here. There >are probably many others who did the same. I can't imagine too many people did that, most would be horrified at UK software prices anyway! :-) Even then, if you double the quantity sold it's still disappointing. Cheers! John

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>On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:44:33 -0500, "Greg Cisko" >>Maybe many people in the US did what I did. I ordered the British >>version months before the US version was released here. There >>are probably many others who did the same. >I can't imagine too many people did that, most would be horrified at >UK software prices anyway! :-) Even then, if you double the quantity >sold it's still disappointing. >Cheers! >John

350,000 world wide is not so bad, but one wonders if the game actually made much money, taking inot account the FIA License cost.... Z. Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

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>On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:44:33 -0500, "Greg Cisko" >>Maybe many people in the US did what I did. I ordered the British >>version months before the US version was released here. There >>are probably many others who did the same. >I can't imagine too many people did that, most would be horrified at >UK software prices anyway! :-) Even then, if you double the quantity >sold it's still disappointing.

I paid $40 (US) from Ubisoft USA in California. I did not buy it from Britain. Kind of strange that UBI would do that, but hey :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

I hate to break it to ya, but, MGPRS2 is about to be released in the US, so there will be some comments about it when it does come out, most of them probably dealing with the SBLive problems. I'm looking forward to those future RS3 vs GP3 threads.

NO ONE BUY CART OR NASCAR-SHIT IN HERE EUROPE. WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT! IS THAT NICE GOING ROUND CIRCLE AND TURN ONLY ONE WAY! I UNDERSTAND IN REAL WORLD, BUT COMPUTER SCREEN??? WAKE UP MAN.

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> > Sold about 350,000 worldwide though! Looks like the US has missed out > again! > > Iain > Eh let's see... > 350 000 + 12,570 = 362,570. > David, where is those million copy sold of F1RS like you said? > It seems that nobody talks about MGPRS2 and F1RS anymore here. Not that

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> have anything against that ;-P <sarcasm> > -- > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> > -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ > -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ > -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. > -- May the Downforce be with you... > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Why are you shouting at me ? And why do you think this is an actual revelation to my eyes ? I was talking about the World-Wide sellings that David always said they were over a million copies. Please re-read my post. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Mechanic schrieb: Hmm, your org is SAUNALAHDEN SERVERIN asiakas. Maybe you should cut back on those sauna visits, they make you go bananas with no reason... l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

For SBK its probably that there was a lack of interest for a Road Bike racing game, I baught it the first week it was out and I still love it to death. Its just superb. But personaly I did never like F1RS as it was. GP2000 (or GP3) will be the bomb tho.

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> > According to a feature at Gamecenter.com, F1RS sold only 12,570 copies in > > the U.S. It is part of a list of the top ten greatest, but poor-selling > > games. > > http://www.gamecenter.com/Features/Exclusives/Notbought/ss06.html > > -- > Yeah? And what about the great Superbike World championship from EA > Sports? According to the same article, it only sold 7000+ copies! What a > shame! > Philster

I bought a UK import copy from Interact for about $30 shortly after its UK release.

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> >On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:44:33 -0500, "Greg Cisko" > >>Maybe many people in the US did what I did. I ordered the British > >>version months before the US version was released here. There > >>are probably many others who did the same. > >I can't imagine too many people did that, most would be horrified at > >UK software prices anyway! :-) Even then, if you double the quantity > >sold it's still disappointing. > I paid $40 (US) from Ubisoft USA in California. I did not buy it from > Britain. Kind of strange that UBI would do that, but hey :-) > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

No, you got that wrong..._he_ is SAUNALAHDEN SERVERIN asiakas... ;P

There seems to be a consistent problem here in the US - if a racing game doesn't say NASCAR on it, or if it takes more than a little bit of work to be competitive, only 10K-20K diehard American sim fans will buy it. Unfortunately, this will probably keep much of the future sims off US store shelves. Thank goodness for Interact and Computermate for their European software sales to us (and Papyrus, for GPL) !!! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

It was a big marketing mistake is why I think it didn't sell shit in the states. There was about a 1 year delay before it was released here in the US. That is completely ridiculous if you ask me. A Year old game released at full price here probably turned a lot of people off. Same with F1rs2. Maybe not a year like the first one but still way too long. Shelf life of a computer game is maybe a month or 2 here unless it is an extrordinary game put out by some big company that always has stuff in a certain section of the pc store (ie Microsoft, Sierra, etc. How much money do you think Ubi lost because of the delays (for whatever reason?, Tobacco, *** ads is what I heard way back when. By the time it finally made it to our shores, There were a lot of "high end" brand new games out. What was the real reason for the long delays in the release here? anyone know? I'm talking about f1rs1 and mgprs2. Mike Lewis

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> >Hmm, your org is SAUNALAHDEN SERVERIN asiakas. > >Maybe you should cut back on those sauna visits, they make > >you go bananas with no reason... > >l8er > >ronny > No, you got that wrong..._he_ is SAUNALAHDEN SERVERIN asiakas... ;P

LOL, it was in the org line, and I assumed he's working in a store that sells sauna equipment. SAUNALAHDEN -> Sauna Laden, German for Sauna Store. ;^) l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

writes: Hmm...I've NEVER seen it, and I spend WAY to much time in software stores... :-) __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

So mgprs2 is nweish in the states ? full price ? I just bought it for 15 and got f1rs free with it, over here in UK ordering from UK may be acheaper even with postage charge

Where did you buy it?

On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:47:54 -0400, "Galley_SimRacer" >According to a feature at Gamecenter.com, F1RS sold only 12,570 copies in >the U.S. It is part of a list of the top ten greatest, but poor-selling >games. >http://www.gamecenter.com/Features/Exclusives/Notbought/ss06.html Yeah....MGPRS2 was all over the goddamn place in Montreal- an HOUR from the USA- last March. Is MGPRS2 even here yet?? I would think that, provided Ubi was whining about sales in the USA, they'd get off their fundaments and release the damn game EVERYWHERE.

There is something goofy, or technical about cross Ocean products. You'd think Ubi would have a fairly robust Distrubution network, especially for the states, don't they also produce N64 and Playstation titles? DiD had a terrible time getting proper distribution of EF2000, had to rerelease the sim as a new product(great 3d upgrades) to get it in the mass market channels here in the States. But if F1rs did go down the toilet over here, then Ubi might be hesitant to throw marketing money away....Now if they teamed up with Eidos and produced my pet project...it would sell like hotcakes... "Laura Croft drives Formula1....crazy" Of course, we'd need to "modify" the ***pit due to certain anato...certain physical features....:) dave henrie -- On May 17, 1999 A Whale was killed off the coast of Washington State. The Whale was killed in the name of Tradition.....I say.... %&#& Tradition! >On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:47:54 -0400, "Galley_SimRacer" >>According to a feature at Gamecenter.com, F1RS sold only 12,570 copies in >>the U.S. It is part of a list of the top ten greatest, but poor-selling >>games. >>[link lost in import] >Yeah....MGPRS2 was all over the goddamn place in Montreal- an HOUR >from the USA- last March. >Is MGPRS2 even here yet?? I would think that, provided Ubi was whining >about sales in the USA, they'd get off their fundaments and release >the damn game EVERYWHERE.

>Yeah....MGPRS2 was all over the goddamn place in Montreal- an HOUR >from the USA- last March. >Is MGPRS2 even here yet?? I would think that, provided Ubi was whining >about sales in the USA, they'd get off their fundaments and release >the damn game EVERYWHERE. I saw it in Electronics Boutique (eastern Pennsylvania) for the first time this Friday... $44.95. I'll wait about 3 weeks and get it when it's marked down to 10 bucks. Tim

On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:33:59 +0100, "Peter Noble" >Where did you buy it? The high street store called 'GAME' they are everywhere but I used the one in Southport I do not know if they have a mail order division I think the free copy of f1rs is a hang over from when mgprs2 was full price, only a few copies seem to have the sticker on the box anymore >> So mgprs2 is nweish in the states ? full price ? >> I just bought it for 15 and got f1rs free with it, over here in UK >> ordering from UK may be acheaper even with postage charge

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> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:33:59 +0100, "Peter Noble" > >Where did you buy it? > The high street store called 'GAME' > they are everywhere but I used the one in Southport > I do not know if they have a mail order division > I think the free copy of f1rs is a hang over from when mgprs2 was full > price, only a few copies seem to have the sticker on the box anymore

They have website http://www.game-retail.co.uk/ with on-line ordering. > >> So mgprs2 is nweish in the states ? full price ? > >> I just bought it for 15 and got f1rs free with it, over here in UK > >> ordering from UK may be acheaper even with postage charge Wasn't that a strange marketing decision ? If you bought the new, improved version you could get the inferior previous version free. Why would you want it ? John

Picked it up at EB here in C***te for $34.95. They got F1RS several months before I saw it anywhere else last year. Haven't played it yet, picked up SBK for $30 at the same time and can't stop playing that :-) -- Ken's Sig 3.0 "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi Go #43 and #44! volksy (at) geocities (dot) com volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com >>Yeah....MGPRS2 was all over the goddamn place in Montreal- an HOUR >>from the USA- last March. >>Is MGPRS2 even here yet?? I would think that, provided Ubi was whining >>about sales in the USA, they'd get off their fundaments and release >>the damn game EVERYWHERE. >I saw it in Electronics Boutique (eastern Pennsylvania) for the first >time this Friday... $44.95. >I'll wait about 3 weeks and get it when it's marked down to 10 bucks. >Tim