RASCAR LeMans Sarthe

Well as the first one out I guess I'll start the thread. :/ First a big apology to Jan and whoever was behind him. I did not intentionally block you on the Mulsanne straight, I wouldn't do that. I should have said something at the time but when I tried to chat I hit the wrong key and I ended up in some wierd menu. By the time I figured it out we had restarted. I think what happened was that I was down on power and didn't realize it (see next paragraph). I let some people by and then, not realizing something was wrong, I tried to pull back in line. Then suddenly you were right on top of me and I panicked and pulled to the right. Dumb move, apparently you were trying to pass. It was a totally unintentional f*ck up on my part, I'm very sorry, and I'm glad we were able to restart. Now for a question: why would my car be fine during practice, qual, and happy hour but be down on power from the very start of the race? I did not realize it on the first start, but after somebody bumped me from behind on the restart I started paying more attention to my speed and I noticed I could barely get over 190 on Mulsanne. I don't think it was a controller problem, because I was able to hit 215 in qual. Anyway I tried twice to fix it in the pits but nothing helped. Then after getting penalized once for unsafe pit entry (yeah, I should have practiced that off line) and again for speeding I decided to hang it up. Also a dumb move, turns out there were two people worse off then me. It just has not been a good day. I wanted to get into the 3 pm practice race but I got tied up doing other things. Had I been there this probably all could have been avoided. I swear I'm not normally this dense. I can't make it next week, but hopefully things will go better at Sebring on the 24th. I will try to be more prepared. Oops one more question: I saw people's cars bobbing up and down vertically, graphics disappearing for a frame, and my sound was cutting in and out. None of this happens offline, and other than the bobbing I don't think it is warp. Anybody else have trouble with this track online?

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> > Now for a question: why would my car be fine during practice, qual, and > happy hour but be down on power from the very start of the race? I did not > realize it on the first start, but after somebody bumped me from behind on > the restart I started paying more attention to my speed and I noticed I > could barely get over 190 on Mulsanne. I don't think it was a controller > problem, because I was able to hit 215 in qual. Anyway I tried twice to fix > it in the pits but nothing helped. Then after getting penalized once for > unsafe pit entry (yeah, I should have practiced that off line) and again for > speeding I decided to hang it up. Also a dumb move, turns out there were > two people worse off then me.

Every so often people seem to get schtuck with clear weather in a race that's cloudy, never experienced it myself, but I've read about it from other people, no damage, no calibration problem, just down on power > Oops one more question: I saw people's cars bobbing up and down vertically, > graphics disappearing for a frame, and my sound was cutting in and out. > None of this happens offline, and other than the bobbing I don't think it is > warp. Anybody else have trouble with this track online? The bobbing up and down happens in the T/A mod when people shift gears and it happens as you pass neutral, just like the ride height issue this is present in the other series as well, but a lot more pronounced in the T/A series Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> > Now for a question: why would my car be fine during practice, qual, and > happy hour but be down on power from the very start of the race? I did not > realize it on the first start, but after somebody bumped me from behind on > the restart I started paying more attention to my speed and I noticed I > could barely get over 190 on Mulsanne. I don't think it was a controller > problem, because I was able to hit 215 in qual. Anyway I tried twice to fix > it in the pits but nothing helped. Then after getting penalized once for > unsafe pit entry (yeah, I should have practiced that off line) and again for > speeding I decided to hang it up. Also a dumb move, turns out there were > two people worse off then me.

Every so often people seem to get schtuck with clear weather in a race that's cloudy, never experienced it myself, but I've read about it from other people, no damage, no calibration problem, just down on power > Oops one more question: I saw people's cars bobbing up and down vertically, > graphics disappearing for a frame, and my sound was cutting in and out. > None of this happens offline, and other than the bobbing I don't think it is > warp. Anybody else have trouble with this track online? The bobbing up and down happens in the T/A mod when people shift gears and it happens as you pass neutral, just like the ride height issue this is present in the other series as well, but a lot more pronounced in the T/A series Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> Well as the first one out I guess I'll start the thread. :/ > > First a big apology to Jan and whoever was behind him. I did not > intentionally block you on the Mulsanne straight, I wouldn't do that. I > should have said something at the time but when I tried to chat I hit the > wrong key and I ended up in some wierd menu. By the time I figured it out > we had restarted. I think what happened was that I was down on power and > didn't realize it (see next paragraph). I let some people by and then,

not > realizing something was wrong, I tried to pull back in line. Thensuddenly > you were right on top of me and I panicked and pulled to the right. Dumb > move, apparently you were trying to pass. It was a totally unintentional > f*ck up on my part, I'm very sorry, and I'm glad we were able to restart. > > Now for a question: why would my car be fine during practice, qual, and > happy hour but be down on power from the very start of the race? I didnot > realize it on the first start, but after somebody bumped me from behind on > the restart I started paying more attention to my speed and I noticed I > could barely get over 190 on Mulsanne. I don't think it was a controller > problem, because I was able to hit 215 in qual. Anyway I tried twice tofix > it in the pits but nothing helped. Then after getting penalized once for > unsafe pit entry (yeah, I should have practiced that off line) and againfor > speeding I decided to hang it up. Also a dumb move, turns out there were > two people worse off then me. > > It just has not been a good day. I wanted to get into the 3 pm practice > race but I got tied up doing other things. Had I been there this probably > all could have been avoided. I swear I'm not normally this dense. Ican't > make it next week, but hopefully things will go better at Sebring on the > 24th. I will try to be more prepared. > > Oops one more question: I saw people's cars bobbing up and downvertically, > graphics disappearing for a frame, and my sound was cutting in and out. > None of this happens offline, and other than the bobbing I don't think itis > warp. Anybody else have trouble with this track online? > > > > Ditto on the pit practice. I had no idea how to pit. Got penalized for unsafe entrance, unsafe exit and speeding. :-( bluestringer

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> Well as the first one out I guess I'll start the thread. :/ > > First a big apology to Jan and whoever was behind him. > I did not intentionally block you on the Mulsanne straight, > I wouldn't do that. I should have said something at the > time but when I tried to chat I hit the wrong key and I > ended up in some wierd menu. By the time I figured it out > we had restarted. I think what happened was that I was > down on power and didn't realize it (see next paragraph). > I let some people by and then, not realizing something was > wrong, I tried to pull back in line. Then suddenly you > were right on top of me and I panicked and pulled to the > right. Dumb move, apparently you were trying to pass. It > was a totally unintentional f*ck up on my part, I'm very > sorry,

That's ok... it is vitally important for a slower driver not to make any sudden or unpredictable moves in such or a lapping situation, though. > and I'm glad we were able to restart. Me too.

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> Now for a question: why would my car be fine during > practice, qual, and happy hour but be down on power > from the very start of the race? I did not realize it > on the first start, but after somebody bumped me from > behind on the restart I started paying more attention > to my speed and I noticed I could barely get over 190 > on Mulsanne. I don't think it was a controller problem, > because I was able to hit 215 in qual.

Strange... and doubly so seeing as the problem didn't fix itself due to the restart. I suspect I had a similar thing going on at Thompson. In Practise I couldn't get near my usual times, but from Qualifying onwards everything was suddenly fine again and I was the class of the field for a while (except for Robert, of course, but he doesn't count <vbg>). > Anyway I tried twice to fix it in the pits but nothing > helped. Then after getting penalized once for unsafe > pit entry (yeah, I should have practiced that off line) > and again for speeding I decided to hang it up. Also a > dumb move, turns out there were two people worse off > then me. You should never give up in these race... chances are things are going to get pretty lonely anyway, so you might as well go for a finish. Jan. =---

Okay just so I can learn something from this, let's say I stayed in the race, what would be the right way to handle oncoming traffic? I'm down on power, I may have lost a cylinder, so I'm not only slow on the straights but I'm also slow coming out of the corners. My inclination is that, regardless of the reason, if I'm off the pace I should stay on line on the straights, but go to the outside in the turns if somebody is trying to pass me. Nothing that happened at LeMans has really changed my opinion, if anything it has reinforced it. If I had stayed on the left all the way down Mulsanne it might have been inconvenient for some people but it would have prevented the incident. OTOH in real racing I see people who are laps down or off the pace staying low on the straights. That happens a lot in NASCAR and that's why I was conflicted about what was expected of me. You guys mostly do NASCAR races so I was concerned that I would be expected to do things the NASCAR way. But I don't think this is a good idea because it creates a potential problem when I reach a turn and I need to let people through on the bottom - I would have to cross from inside to outside which means crossing the line of traffic. Bad idea, especially when the "objects in mirror are closer than they appear" effect is so bad in NR 2003 that I am usually not aware that somebody is behind me until they are about to hit me. (I am using the F2 display but people who are more than a second behind me don't seem to show in my mirrors at all, which makes me question the validity of the gaps shown in the F2 display.) I would like to hear, not just from Jan but from any experienced sim racer, what they think is the right thing to do in this situation. "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VNbMb.7011$[email hidden]... > > ... it is vitally important for a slower driver not to make any > sudden or unpredictable moves in such or a lapping situation, though. ><snip>

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> > You should never give up in these race... chances are things are going to > get pretty lonely anyway, so you might as well go for a finish. > > Jan. > =--- > >

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>Okay just so I can learn something from this, let's say I stayed in the >race, what would be the right way to handle oncoming traffic? I'm down on >power, I may have lost a cylinder, so I'm not only slow on the straights but >I'm also slow coming out of the corners. My inclination is that, regardless >of the reason, if I'm off the pace I should stay on line on the straights, >but go to the outside in the turns if somebody is trying to pass me. >Nothing that happened at LeMans has really changed my opinion, if anything >it has reinforced it. If I had stayed on the left all the way down Mulsanne >it might have been inconvenient for some people but it would have >prevented >the incident. OTOH in real racing I see people who are laps down or off the >pace staying low on the straights. That happens a lot in NASCAR and that's >why I was conflicted about what was expected of me. You guys mostly do >NASCAR races so I was concerned that I would be expected to do things >the >NASCAR way. But I don't think this is a good idea because it creates a >potential problem when I reach a turn and I need to let people through on >the bottom - I would have to cross from inside to outside which means >crossing the line of traffic. Bad idea, especially when the "objects in >mirror are closer than they appear" effect is so bad in NR 2003 that I am >usually not aware that somebody is behind me until they are about to hit me. >(I am using the F2 display but people who are more than a second behind >me >don't seem to show in my mirrors at all, which makes me question the >validity of the gaps shown in the F2 display.) I would like to hear, not >just from Jan but from any experienced sim racer, what they think is the >right thing to do in this situation. > >

I personally would stick to the normal racing line, apart from when exiting a corner with a faster driver behind me, where I would want to keep to the inside, allowing cars at normal pace to be able to exit at the best possible acceleration and using the more ideal line. Once I was able to, I would pull back over to the normal racing line. If someone wants to overtake me on the straight, or braking for the corner, then they can move to my inside and, if through the corner, I would be happy to drive around the outside in those situations where a faster driver has taken the inside. I think this results in as little need to keep crossing from one side of the track to the other, aka 'the moving chicane'. :) -- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -25.01

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Okay just so I can learn something from this, let's say I stayed in the > race, what would be the right way to handle oncoming traffic? I'm down on > power, I may have lost a cylinder, so I'm not only slow on the straightsbut > I'm also slow coming out of the corners. My inclination is that,regardless > of the reason, if I'm off the pace I should stay on line on the straights, > but go to the outside in the turns if somebody is trying to pass me. > Nothing that happened at LeMans has really changed my opinion, if anything > it has reinforced it. If I had stayed on the left all the way downMulsanne > it might have been inconvenient for some people but it would haveprevented > the incident. OTOH in real racing I see people who are laps down or offthe > pace staying low on the straights. That happens a lot in NASCAR andthat's

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> why I was conflicted about what was expected of me. You guys mostly do > NASCAR races so I was concerned that I would be expected to do things the > NASCAR way. But I don't think this is a good idea because it creates a > potential problem when I reach a turn and I need to let people through on > the bottom - I would have to cross from inside to outside which means > crossing the line of traffic. Bad idea, especially when the "objects in > mirror are closer than they appear" effect is so bad in NR 2003 that I am > usually not aware that somebody is behind me until they are about to hit

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> (I am using the F2 display but people who are more than a second behind me > don't seem to show in my mirrors at all, which makes me question the > validity of the gaps shown in the F2 display.) I would like to hear, not > just from Jan but from any experienced sim racer, what they think is the > right thing to do in this situation. > > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:VNbMb.7011$[email hidden]... > > > > ... it is vitally important for a slower driver not to make any > > sudden or unpredictable moves in such or a lapping situation, though. > > > <snip> > > > > You should never give up in these race... chances are things are going

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> > get pretty lonely anyway, so you might as well go for a finish. > > > > Jan. > > =--- > > > > > >

I stay in the racing line and keep watching my mirror. I try to wait for a good place to let the faster car pass without causing a problem, but you don't want to hold them up too long. At the end of the long straight before the hard right was a good place, I just got over to the right and braked early and gave the outside to the faster car. One thing you can do is use the chat to let the driver know if you want him to pass high or low. I was well off the pace, but I just keep at it for points and tried to stay out the way. The other drivers will learn your style after a few races. bluestringer

We saw some truly weird random damage incidents during Qual. Not sure about during the race itself. My car was built like a tank for the race. And it was a good thing :) I actually believe I fell asleep at one point! A couple of times I forgot where I was and set up for the corner completely wrong, and went flying off the track. I'll take 9th, and give back change :) -Larry "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Well as the first one out I guess I'll start the thread. :/ > > First a big apology to Jan and whoever was behind him. I did not > intentionally block you on the Mulsanne straight, I wouldn't do that. I > should have said something at the time but when I tried to chat I hit the > wrong key and I ended up in some wierd menu. By the time I figured it out > we had restarted. I think what happened was that I was down on power and > didn't realize it (see next paragraph). I let some people by and then,

not > realizing something was wrong, I tried to pull back in line. Thensuddenly > you were right on top of me and I panicked and pulled to the right. Dumb > move, apparently you were trying to pass. It was a totally unintentional > f*ck up on my part, I'm very sorry, and I'm glad we were able to restart. > > Now for a question: why would my car be fine during practice, qual, and > happy hour but be down on power from the very start of the race? I didnot > realize it on the first start, but after somebody bumped me from behind on > the restart I started paying more attention to my speed and I noticed I > could barely get over 190 on Mulsanne. I don't think it was a controller > problem, because I was able to hit 215 in qual. Anyway I tried twice tofix > it in the pits but nothing helped. Then after getting penalized once for > unsafe pit entry (yeah, I should have practiced that off line) and againfor > speeding I decided to hang it up. Also a dumb move, turns out there were > two people worse off then me. > > It just has not been a good day. I wanted to get into the 3 pm practice > race but I got tied up doing other things. Had I been there this probably > all could have been avoided. I swear I'm not normally this dense. Ican't > make it next week, but hopefully things will go better at Sebring on the > 24th. I will try to be more prepared. > > Oops one more question: I saw people's cars bobbing up and downvertically, > graphics disappearing for a frame, and my sound was cutting in and out. > None of this happens offline, and other than the bobbing I don't think itis > warp. Anybody else have trouble with this track online? > > > >

I blew the pint entrance by a good 20 yards, so don't feel bad :) I was afraid to back up to go between the cones. Thought the silly thing might DQ me. And there was no way I could do another lap. I was dry. -Larry "bluestringer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QY%Lb.17059$[email hidden]...

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> > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Well as the first one out I guess I'll start the thread. :/ > > > > First a big apology to Jan and whoever was behind him. I did not > > intentionally block you on the Mulsanne straight, I wouldn't do that. I > > should have said something at the time but when I tried to chat I hit

the > > wrong key and I ended up in some wierd menu. By the time I figured itout > > we had restarted. I think what happened was that I was down on powerand > > didn't realize it (see next paragraph). I let some people by and then, > not > > realizing something was wrong, I tried to pull back in line. Then > suddenly > > you were right on top of me and I panicked and pulled to the right.Dumb > > move, apparently you were trying to pass. It was a totallyunintentional > > f*ck up on my part, I'm very sorry, and I'm glad we were able torestart. > > > > Now for a question: why would my car be fine during practice, qual, and > > happy hour but be down on power from the very start of the race? I did > not > > realize it on the first start, but after somebody bumped me from behindon > > the restart I started paying more attention to my speed and I noticed I > > could barely get over 190 on Mulsanne. I don't think it was acontroller > > problem, because I was able to hit 215 in qual. Anyway I tried twice to > fix > > it in the pits but nothing helped. Then after getting penalized oncefor > > unsafe pit entry (yeah, I should have practiced that off line) and again > for > > speeding I decided to hang it up. Also a dumb move, turns out therewere > > two people worse off then me. > > > > It just has not been a good day. I wanted to get into the 3 pm practice > > race but I got tied up doing other things. Had I been there thisprobably

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> > all could have been avoided. I swear I'm not normally this dense. I > can't > > make it next week, but hopefully things will go better at Sebring on the > > 24th. I will try to be more prepared. > > > > Oops one more question: I saw people's cars bobbing up and down > vertically, > > graphics disappearing for a frame, and my sound was cutting in and out. > > None of this happens offline, and other than the bobbing I don't think

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> is > > warp. Anybody else have trouble with this track online? > > > > > > > > > > > Ditto on the pit practice. I had no idea how to pit. Got penalized for > unsafe entrance, unsafe exit and speeding. :-( > > bluestringer > >

I think I win the bonehead of the week award. Misjudged the turn, got hung up. I got bored sitting there so stupid me calls for the Tow Truck. 6min, 40sec tow. 3 laps lost! @#$%@$ Tim "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wqWMb.332$_H5.226@lakeread06... > We saw some truly weird random damage incidents during Qual. Not sureabout

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> during the race itself. > > My car was built like a tank for the race. And it was a good thing :) > > I actually believe I fell asleep at one point! > > A couple of times I forgot where I was and set up for the corner

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> wrong, and went flying off the track. > > I'll take 9th, and give back change :) > > -Larry > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Well as the first one out I guess I'll start the thread. :/ > > > > First a big apology to Jan and whoever was behind him. I did not > > intentionally block you on the Mulsanne straight, I wouldn't do that. I > > should have said something at the time but when I tried to chat I hit

the > > wrong key and I ended up in some wierd menu. By the time I figured itout > > we had restarted. I think what happened was that I was down on powerand > > didn't realize it (see next paragraph). I let some people by and then, > not > > realizing something was wrong, I tried to pull back in line. Then > suddenly > > you were right on top of me and I panicked and pulled to the right.Dumb > > move, apparently you were trying to pass. It was a totallyunintentional > > f*ck up on my part, I'm very sorry, and I'm glad we were able torestart. > > > > Now for a question: why would my car be fine during practice, qual, and > > happy hour but be down on power from the very start of the race? I did > not > > realize it on the first start, but after somebody bumped me from behindon > > the restart I started paying more attention to my speed and I noticed I > > could barely get over 190 on Mulsanne. I don't think it was acontroller > > problem, because I was able to hit 215 in qual. Anyway I tried twice to > fix > > it in the pits but nothing helped. Then after getting penalized oncefor > > unsafe pit entry (yeah, I should have practiced that off line) and again > for > > speeding I decided to hang it up. Also a dumb move, turns out therewere > > two people worse off then me. > > > > It just has not been a good day. I wanted to get into the 3 pm practice > > race but I got tied up doing other things. Had I been there thisprobably

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> > all could have been avoided. I swear I'm not normally this dense. I > can't > > make it next week, but hopefully things will go better at Sebring on the > > 24th. I will try to be more prepared. > > > > Oops one more question: I saw people's cars bobbing up and down > vertically, > > graphics disappearing for a frame, and my sound was cutting in and out. > > None of this happens offline, and other than the bobbing I don't think

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> is > > warp. Anybody else have trouble with this track online? > > > > > > > > > >

Track: Sarthe '67 Date: 01/10/04 Session: Practice P # DRIVER TIME 1 19 DaveGF 3:07.381 2 6 Neil__C 3:07.559 3 311 Dick-Trickle 3:07.925 4 27 BOster 3:09.573 5 103 JurjenvanderLelij 3:09.653 6 15 bfarmer 3:10.144 7 3 TNA Loan 3:11.417 8 1 Mitch_A 3:11.460 9 11 seery 3:11.628 10 17 j_verschue_RAS 3:13.038 11 12 Haqsau 3:13.115 12 98 LTB-Racer 3:13.487 13 66 s_brunt 3:14.979 14 40 mcewena 3:15.585 15 42 bluestringer 3:16.886 16 03 ShepherdRAS 3:18.123 17 170 joonjoonli 4:03.528 Weather: Clear, 70 �F, North 0 mph Session: Qualifying P # DRIVER TIME 1 311 Dick-Trickle 3:07.417 2 6 Neil__C 3:07.538 3 103 JurjenvanderLelij 3:08.596 4 27 BOster 3:09.372 5 3 TNA Loan 3:10.347 6 321 Mitch_A 3:12.204 7 322 LTB-Racer 3:13.561 8 19 DaveGF 3:14.508 9 15 bfarmer 3:15.726 10 12 Haqsau 3:16.236 11 66 s_brunt 3:16.976 12 40 mcewena 3:20.171 13 03 ShepherdRAS 3:21.354 14 42 bluestringer -- 15 323 joonjoonli -- 16 17 j_verschue_RAS -- 17 2 tpaullin -- 18 11 seery -- 19 9 Don_Wilshe -- 20 1 Mitch_A -- 21 170 joonjoonli -- 22 49 ZZBusch -- 23 98 LTB-Racer -- Weather: Clear, 70 �F, North 0 mph Session: Happy Hour P # DRIVER TIME Weather: Clear, 70 �F, North 0 mph Session: Race F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS 1 1 311 Dick-Trickle 157.879 22 19* 185 Running 2 2 6 Neil__C -25.57 22 3 175 Running 3 8 19 DaveGF -41.26 22 0 165 Running 4 6 321 Mitch_A -1:39.98 22 0 160 Running 5 5 3 TNA Loan -1:46.80 22 0 155 Running 6 3 103 JurjenvanderLelij -2:10.99 22 0 150 Running 7 16 17 j_verschue_RAS -2:45.33 22 0 146 Running 8 4 27 BOster -2:56.62 22 0 142 Running 9 7 322 LTB-Racer -3:10.33 22 0 138 Running 10 9 15 bfarmer -1L 21 0 134 Running 11 11 66 s_brunt -1L 21 0 130 Running 12 13 03 ShepherdRAS -1L 21 0 127 Running 13 18 11 seery -1L 21 0 124 Running 14 14 42 bluestringer -2L 20 0 121 Running 15 17 2 tpaullin -5L 17 0 118 Running 16 15 323 joonjoonli -15L 7 0 115 Retired 17 12 40 mcewena -15L 7 0 112 Retired 18 10 12 Haqsau -17L 5 0 109 Retired Caution Flags: 0 (0 laps) Lead Changes: 4 (2 drivers) Weather: Clear, 70 �F, North 0 mph Pitstop Frequency: 1x "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Well as the first one out I guess I'll start the thread. :/ > > First a big apology to Jan and whoever was behind him. I did not > intentionally block you on the Mulsanne straight, I wouldn't do that. I > should have said something at the time but when I tried to chat I hit the > wrong key and I ended up in some wierd menu. By the time I figured it out > we had restarted. I think what happened was that I was down on power and > didn't realize it (see next paragraph). I let some people by and then,

not > realizing something was wrong, I tried to pull back in line. Thensuddenly > you were right on top of me and I panicked and pulled to the right. Dumb > move, apparently you were trying to pass. It was a totally unintentional > f*ck up on my part, I'm very sorry, and I'm glad we were able to restart. > > Now for a question: why would my car be fine during practice, qual, and > happy hour but be down on power from the very start of the race? I didnot > realize it on the first start, but after somebody bumped me from behind on > the restart I started paying more attention to my speed and I noticed I > could barely get over 190 on Mulsanne. I don't think it was a controller > problem, because I was able to hit 215 in qual. Anyway I tried twice tofix > it in the pits but nothing helped. Then after getting penalized once for > unsafe pit entry (yeah, I should have practiced that off line) and againfor > speeding I decided to hang it up. Also a dumb move, turns out there were > two people worse off then me. > > It just has not been a good day. I wanted to get into the 3 pm practice > race but I got tied up doing other things. Had I been there this probably > all could have been avoided. I swear I'm not normally this dense. Ican't > make it next week, but hopefully things will go better at Sebring on the > 24th. I will try to be more prepared. > > Oops one more question: I saw people's cars bobbing up and downvertically, > graphics disappearing for a frame, and my sound was cutting in and out. > None of this happens offline, and other than the bobbing I don't think itis > warp. Anybody else have trouble with this track online? > > > >

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>> Oops one more question: I saw people's cars bobbing up and down > vertically, >> graphics disappearing for a frame, and my sound was cutting in and out. >> None of this happens offline, and other than the bobbing I don't think it > is >> warp. Anybody else have trouble with this track online? >>

Bobbing is exagerated motion of the brakes/down-shifting of the car. For some reason it is more pronounced when online. Just a quirk of the papy sims. Graphics disappearing? Is that trackside graphics or the other online cars? Finally, LeSarthe has a problem with the walls and damage. All it takes is a tiny scrape and your engine will be toast. Also the track seems to over-exagerate engine damage. I ran some practice laps there and was shifting at the 8k rev limit. Just as I began my first hotlap the power dropped way down. I could only pull 135 in third...not even enough oomph to pull 4th gear on the Mulsaane. So I 'think' the engine was pre-paring to handgrenade. Went back out and shifted at 7500 and suffered no engine meltdown. Noonan has been advised of these problems...but I don't know if he plans on updating LeSarthe. dave henrie

It happened so quick I'm not sure exactly what it was. It wasn't the cars. Either the cockpit graphics were blinking in and out of the track graphics were. All I know is everything changed for one quick frame and then it was back to normal. Only happened a couple of times, during practice. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Graphics disappearing? Is that trackside graphics or the other online > cars?

You running a Radeon ? -Larry "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bu54e4$dsj96$[email hidden]... > It happened so quick I'm not sure exactly what it was. It wasn't thecars. > Either the cockpit graphics were blinking in and out of the track graphics > were. All I know is everything changed for one quick frame and then itwas

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> back to normal. Only happened a couple of times, during practice. > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Graphics disappearing? Is that trackside graphics or the other online > > cars? > >

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<bu54e4$dsj96$[email hidden]>... > It happened so quick I'm not sure exactly what it was. It wasn't the cars. > Either the cockpit graphics were blinking in and out of the track graphics > were. All I know is everything changed for one quick frame and then it was > back to normal. Only happened a couple of times, during practice. > That happened to me a couple of times, the car graphics sort of flashed. It was while I was on the straight, at first I assumed it was as somebody was joining server but there were no messages that corresponded. Never happened in traffic and didn't seem to hurt anything. I'm running a ti 4200 and the fps was up in the triple digits at the time.

GeForce 4 Ti 4200, 128 meg, 53.03 drivers, no FSAA, no AF, megashader turned on in the player file (or wherever it is). Have not seen this happen under any other circumstances ever. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xYxNb.1915$_H5.516@lakeread06...

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> You running a Radeon ? > > -Larry > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bu54e4$dsj96$[email hidden]... > > It happened so quick I'm not sure exactly what it was. It wasn't the > cars. > > Either the cockpit graphics were blinking in and out of the track

graphics > > were. All I know is everything changed for one quick frame and then it > was > > back to normal. Only happened a couple of times, during practice. > >

Same situation for me, I'm running a T1 4200 also, and I was typically getting fps in the 90 to 110 range during practice. "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > That happened to me a couple of times, the car graphics sort of > flashed. It was while I was on the straight, at first I assumed it > was as somebody was joining server but there were no messages that > corresponded. Never happened in traffic and didn't seem to hurt > anything. > > I'm running a ti 4200 and the fps was up in the triple digits at the > time.

In article <bu2d8d$htl$[email hidden]>, "Tim Paullin" <[email hidden]> writes: >I think I win the bonehead of the week award. Misjudged the turn, got hung >up. I got bored sitting there so stupid me calls for the Tow Truck. 6min, >40sec tow. 3 laps lost! @#$%@$ So what was your alternative? Sit there and watch the race go by? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> > >I think I win the bonehead of the week award. Misjudged the turn, gothung > >up. I got bored sitting there so stupid me calls for the Tow Truck.6min, > >40sec tow. 3 laps lost! @#$%@$ > > So what was your alternative? Sit there and watch the race go by? > > Eldred Damage was off, so I should have waited for someone to gently knock me off the bunker. Probably would've only lost a lap. Tim

>Damage was off, so I should have waited for someone to gently knock me off >the bunker. Probably would've only lost a lap. > Ah, ok. But, someone would have to know that you were high-sided, and not just waiting for traffic to clear. And, they'd have to be willing to detour for a sec to knock you loose. :-) Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>>Damage was off, so I should have waited for someone to gently knock me >>off the bunker. Probably would've only lost a lap. >> > > Ah, ok. But, someone would have to know that you were high-sided, and > not just waiting for traffic to clear. And, they'd have to be willing > to detour for a sec to knock you loose. :-) > > Eldred

Actualy, Tim told us about his condition at TS. I asked him if he wanted to wait for me to get there, but I think a 3 min wait on top of a sand bunker is a very long time .... :D

The reason I ask is that this sounds similar to the problem I STILL have with the 9800 Pro. If I have too many cars in the field, or if I turn up the AA and AF too high, I start getting flashy graphics _inside_ the car. It's like the car disassembles itself and scatters parts across the screen. -Larry "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > GeForce 4 Ti 4200, 128 meg, 53.03 drivers, no FSAA, no AF, megashaderturned > on in the player file (or wherever it is). Have not seen this happenunder

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> any other circumstances ever. > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xYxNb.1915$_H5.516@lakeread06... > > You running a Radeon ? > > > > -Larry > > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:bu54e4$dsj96$[email hidden]... > > > It happened so quick I'm not sure exactly what it was. It wasn't the > > cars. > > > Either the cockpit graphics were blinking in and out of the track > graphics > > > were. All I know is everything changed for one quick frame and then

it > > was > > > back to normal. Only happened a couple of times, during practice. > > > > >

"JLe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > >>Damage was off, so I should have waited for someone to gently knock me > >>off the bunker. Probably would've only lost a lap. > >> > > > > Ah, ok. But, someone would have to know that you were high-sided, and > > not just waiting for traffic to clear. And, they'd have to be willing > > to detour for a sec to knock you loose. :-) > > > > Eldred > > Actualy, Tim told us about his condition at TS. > I asked him if he wanted to wait for me to get there, but I think a 3 min > wait on top of a sand bunker is a very long time .... :D

I appreciated the offer though! Wish I would have taken ya up on it.;-( Tim

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >Damage was off, so I should have waited for someone to gently knock meoff > >the bunker. Probably would've only lost a lap. > > > > Ah, ok. But, someone would have to know that you were high-sided, and notjust > waiting for traffic to clear. And, they'd have to be willing to detourfor a > sec to knock you loose. :-) > > Eldred > - I let everyone know my situation on Teamspeak. Jurgen was kind enough to offer(thks) but I'm kinda impatient.... Any chance you'll be joining us Sat.? Tim

> I let everyone know my situation on Teamspeak. Jurgen was kind enough >to offer(thks) but I'm kinda impatient.... > Any chance you'll be joining us Sat.? > I don't know why I'm just now seeing this(from the 16th?). I posted that I can't seem to do anything at Sebring, but I haven't seen that message either. Damn AOL... :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 ChallengeRank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.