199.455 at dega

Finally got over 199. at dega, in a modem race with a friend, seems to be a lot harder to get it than before with N2.

was this done in a draft? I too ran a 199 while multiplaying once, way back. But I did it without a draft. Cant say it was me that did it or my setup, I think I got a bunch of help from latency or something, because I have never been able to come anywhere near that speed again. Even with reduced temp. -- ----------------------------------------------------- NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, p.227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to Tim McArthur is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of Five-Hundred Dollars U.S. E-Mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. >Finally got over 199. at dega, in a modem race with a friend, seems to >be a lot harder to get it than before with N2.

Buzzzz, Wrong. I can qual (at 40*) at 198.7. It's rare! Normaly I'll qual. at 197.5+. In any case. If you run your qual lap and not allow ANY tire sqweel at all, You'll get those 199.X laps. As it stands now, While entering T1 and T3 on the last lap of qualifying I'll get a faint, Single, quick, churp out of the rear. It's when I make that perfect lap with no sqweel at all that I knopw I made a 198.x lap before I've crossed the S/F line. If I can hit that high 198.x lap, I'm possitive you can get a high 199.x and maybe even a 200.x lap with the right setup and driving style and line. Mike Barlow

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> Had to be. Can't be done with a single car, even with the temp set at 40 > deg. > -Larry > > was this done in a draft?

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Had to be. Can't be done with a single car, even with the temp set at 40 deg. -Larry > was this done in a draft?

Yea, I know, that is why I say it couldnt have been my driving or setup. :-) I have tried many times to duplicate it, but never have been able to, not even in good drafts. I use to have the replay of it saved, but that was a while back and I no longer have it. Too bad, it sure would be nice to see it again. chow

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>Had to be. Can't be done with a single car, even with the temp set at 40 >deg. >-Larry >> was this done in a draft?

<snip> How may I ask, can you tell which tire is squealing? <G>

It wasn't till I used that setup that I achieved those speeds. Before that, I was always Qualifying 10th or so. Now with his setups I'm always up front. The only time I'm far back in the field is while running at 60*-69* temps. For some reason the 60s seem to be like driving at 100* temps down the straits and 40* temps in the turns. Don't ask me why, I don't know. But that's what I found.

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> I would think you would have more than 33 poles at Dega with 434 races there > Mike if your qualifiying at these speeds. > >Buzzzz, Wrong. I can qual (at 40*) at 198.7. It's rare! Normaly I'll > >qual. at 197.5+. In any case. If you run your qual lap and not allow > >ANY tire sqweel at all, You'll get those 199.X laps. > >Mystic Music

-- Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? MikeBa on the TEN network. Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music

A while ago Don Welsh uploaded a chassis setup for Dega to the TEN NG. The setup is quite simple. The speeds are even simpler. Just run the track trying your best to NOT allow any tire sqweel. If, on your last lap, there is no sqweel, You'll be suprized at your speed. I can ussualy tell what lap time I'm going to get by how much tire sqweel there is. even the slightest sqweel at any point on the track will slow your lap time down 1 tenth.

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> AH your not doing 198.7 quals online atleast not legaly without cutting the > pits. The fastest I have ever done is 198.1 and I'm known to be one of the > fastest at Talladega on TEN. The fastest I have ever seen is 198.2 . I'd > really like to see you do a 198.7 qual with a 2 car draft only does mid to > high 199's . You will have to show me this before i believe this. MIkeBA > Please show me this I got to see this hehe > Robert GT86 Platts > BHMS Member > Bethesda Playtester > >Buzzzz, Wrong. I can qual (at 40*) at 198.7. It's rare! Normaly I'll > >qual. at 197.5+. In any case. If you run your qual lap and not allow > >ANY tire sqweel at all, You'll get those 199.X laps. > > As it stands now, While entering T1 and T3 on the last lap of > >qualifying I'll get a faint, Single, quick, churp out of the rear. It's > >when I make that perfect lap with no sqweel at all that I knopw I made a > >198.x lap before I've crossed the S/F line. If I can hit that high > >198.x lap, I'm possitive you can get a high 199.x and maybe even a 200.x > >lap with the right setup and driving style and line. > >Mike Barlow > >> Had to be. Can't be done with a single car, even with the temp set at 40 > >> deg. > >> -Larry > >> > was this done in a draft? > >-- > >Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? > >MikeBa on the TEN network. > >Racing online with the help of...... > >Race Communications Association > >http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html > >Holodyne Engineering > >Mystic Music

-- Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? MikeBa on the TEN network. Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music

AH your not doing 198.7 quals online atleast not legaly without cutting the pits. The fastest I have ever done is 198.1 and I'm known to be one of the fastest at Talladega on TEN. The fastest I have ever seen is 198.2 . I'd really like to see you do a 198.7 qual with a 2 car draft only does mid to high 199's . You will have to show me this before i believe this. MIkeBA Please show me this I got to see this hehe Robert GT86 Platts BHMS Member Bethesda Playtester

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>Buzzzz, Wrong. I can qual (at 40*) at 198.7. It's rare! Normaly I'll >qual. at 197.5+. In any case. If you run your qual lap and not allow >ANY tire sqweel at all, You'll get those 199.X laps. > As it stands now, While entering T1 and T3 on the last lap of >qualifying I'll get a faint, Single, quick, churp out of the rear. It's >when I make that perfect lap with no sqweel at all that I knopw I made a >198.x lap before I've crossed the S/F line. If I can hit that high >198.x lap, I'm possitive you can get a high 199.x and maybe even a 200.x >lap with the right setup and driving style and line. >Mike Barlow >> Had to be. Can't be done with a single car, even with the temp set at 40 >> deg. >> -Larry >> > was this done in a draft? >-- >Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? >MikeBa on the TEN network. >Racing online with the help of...... >Race Communications Association >http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html >Holodyne Engineering >Mystic Music

I would think you would have more than 33 poles at Dega with 434 races there Mike if your qualifiying at these speeds.

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>Buzzzz, Wrong. I can qual (at 40*) at 198.7. It's rare! Normaly I'll >qual. at 197.5+. In any case. If you run your qual lap and not allow >ANY tire sqweel at all, You'll get those 199.X laps. >Mystic Music

So that means what? That YOU are full of shit? I guess so. The fastest I have ever seen is 198.2 . I'd really like to see you do a 198.7 qual with a 2 car draft only does mid to

I've got 60+ poles and 60+ wins at Dega, and I have _never_ seen qual times like this... -Larry

Frank you bring up something interesting here With a 30 mph wind it might be possible but 199 still won't be possible. GT

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>Larry wrote >>I've got 60+ poles and 60+ wins at Dega, and I have _never_ seen qual >>times like this... >Im sure with a strong wind blowing on the backstretch and 40degrees on the >track is could be possible ;-) >but kudos to those fast qualifiers at dega. Since N1 is out I ain't able

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>qualify well there. >-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> >-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ >-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ >-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >-= May the Downforce be with you... >"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Larry wrote Im sure with a strong wind blowing on the backstretch and 40degrees on the track is could be possible ;-) but kudos to those fast qualifiers at dega. Since N1 is out I ain't able to qualify well there. -= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/ -= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. -= May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

IT means it can't be done without cutting the pits or a 30 mph wind.

Therein lies the key in this case, I believe. Was the wind quoted in the original post? -Larry > IT means it can't be done without cutting the pits or a 30 mph wind.

I thought it might be wind too, but 30MPH back wind on the backstretch means a 30MPH headwind on the front streatch. Maybe because the front stretch isn't straight, the headwind doesn't affect speed as much as the tail wind on the backstretch? -Larry > Frank you bring up something interesting here With a 30 mph wind it might be > possible but 199 still won't be possible.

Could someone please email me this setup? Thanks! -Larry > A while ago Don Welsh uploaded a chassis setup for Dega to the TEN NG. > The setup is quite simple. The speeds are even simpler. Just run the > track trying your best to NOT allow any tire sqweel. If, on your last > lap, there is no sqweel, You'll be suprized at your speed.

>AH your not doing 198.7 quals online atleast not legaly without cutting the >pits. OK, I am a new guy around here but I gotta ask...what is cutting the pits and how do you do it? Thanks Randy

It's backing out of the pits so you can get a better running start for a qual. It isn't a good idea now, though. TEN caught on to it, and it now detects it. It not only black flags you, but it logs it on TEN's servers and it's considered cheating. They have cancelled accounts from what I understand. -Larry > OK, I am a new guy around here but I gotta ask...what is cutting the pits and > how do you do it? > Thanks > Randy