I was at Best Buy last night and saw "NASCAR 2003 Season" for $9.99
Is that the full version of the game that everyone is playing and talking
about.
It is by Sierra. I heard there is no 2004 coming down the road, that this
series is at the end of it's life?
Sorry for the stupid question, I play the Need for Speed and F1 games.
Newcomer asks about $9.99 NASCAR Racing 2003
A newcomer asked whether the $9.99 NASCAR Racing 2003 Season at Best Buy was the version everyone played. Replies confirmed it was, recommended the patch and add-ons, and noted that although no new Papyrus versions were coming, the patch opened the sim to add-ons. Posters also listed the history of the Papyrus NASCAR series.
Automated summary.
Sounds like the right one. If you get it be sure to get the patch, so you can
use the add-on's (trucks etc.) Patch is sure to be online somewhere....
Kevin (aka tlgtr)
****
"A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend will be
sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."
thanks!
"TlgtrProd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Sounds like the right one. If you get it be sure to get the patch, so youcan
> use the add-on's (trucks etc.) Patch is sure to be online somewhere....
>
>
> Kevin (aka tlgtr)
> ****
> "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend willbe
> sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."
And then head over here: http://www.onlineracin.com/pwf/
"Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> thanks!
>
>
> "TlgtrProd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Sounds like the right one. If you get it be sure to get the patch, soyou
will
> be
> > sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."
>
>
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> can > > use the add-on's (trucks etc.) Patch is sure to be online somewhere.... > > > > > > Kevin (aka tlgtr) > > **** > > "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friendGet it!
Papyrus' NR200x series is at the end of it's _commercial_ life as far as new
versions go. However the latest patch opened up it's guts to the point
where there will be new tracks, etc... for basically ever.
-Larry
"Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I was at Best Buy last night and saw "NASCAR 2003 Season" for $9.99 > Is that the full version of the game that everyone is playing and talking > about. > It is by Sierra. I heard there is no 2004 coming down the road, that this > series is at the end of it's life? > > Sorry for the stupid question, I play the Need for Speed and F1 games. > > >Yes, I did go back to the store today and buy N2003 for $9.99 and I
downloaded all the add-ons too....
What is NASCAR 4? Is that newer? Different?
Thanks!
Gary
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Get it!
>
> Papyrus' NR200x series is at the end of it's _commercial_ life as far asnew
talking
> > about.
> > It is by Sierra. I heard there is no 2004 coming down the road, thatthis
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> versions go. However the latest patch opened up it's guts to the point > where there will be new tracks, etc... for basically ever. > > -Larry > > "Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:EhOTb.83519$U%5.447621@attbi_s03... > > I was at Best Buy last night and saw "NASCAR 2003 Season" for $9.99 > > Is that the full version of the game that everyone is playing andQuoted text (8 lines)
> > series is at the end of it's life? > > > > Sorry for the stupid question, I play the Need for Speed and F1 games. > > > > > > > >> What is NASCAR 4? Is that newer? Different?
NASCAR 4 is actually several editions older than 2003.
The evolution was:
NASCAR Racing
NASCAR Racing 2
NASCAR Racing 1999
NASCAR Racing 3 (plus expansion pack, available as NASCAR Acceleration
Pack)
NASCAR Racing 4
NASCAR Racing 2002
and, finally (literally) NASCAR Racing 2003
Oh, BTW:
"The only stupid question is the one you don't ask." - from an old
penpal of mine who was attending the U.S. Naval Academy. Don't be
afraid to ask questions...who knows, somebody else might have the same
question!
Bob
thanks for the History....
I had the "50th Anniversary Edition", maybe it was NASCAR Racing 3 with all
the packs, but I never played it.... payed $40 new then sold it on eBay for
$5 recently.
N2003 works great on my laptop. I need to practice though....
Thanks!
"Robert Nielsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > What is NASCAR 4? Is that newer? Different? > > > NASCAR 4 is actually several editions older than 2003. > > > The evolution was: > > NASCAR Racing > NASCAR Racing 2 > NASCAR Racing 1999 > NASCAR Racing 3 (plus expansion pack, available as NASCAR Acceleration > Pack) > NASCAR Racing 4 > NASCAR Racing 2002 > and, finally (literally) NASCAR Racing 2003 > > Oh, BTW: > > "The only stupid question is the one you don't ask." - from an old > penpal of mine who was attending the U.S. Naval Academy. Don't be > afraid to ask questions...who knows, somebody else might have the same > question! > > Bob >In article <6YUTb.168382$Rc4.1295740@attbi_s54>, [email hidden]
says...
As Senor Wences would no doubt say...."S'alright!" :)
Bob
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> thanks for the History.... > > I had the "50th Anniversary Edition", maybe it was NASCAR Racing 3 with all > the packs, but I never played it.... payed $40 new then sold it on eBay for > $5 recently. > > N2003 works great on my laptop. I need to practice though.... > > Thanks!says...
As Senor Wences would no doubt say...."S'alright!" :)
Bob
"Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> thanks for the History....
>
> I had the "50th Anniversary Edition", maybe it was NASCAR Racing 3 withall
> the packs, but I never played it.... payed $40 new then sold it on eBayfor
> $5 recently.
>
> N2003 works great on my laptop. I need to practice though....
>
> Thanks!
>
On a Laptop? eeww....
I like the idea of TV out on a 50inch screen in 5.1 Dolby Digital. But hey,
laptop is better than nothing. ;-)
it's a good laptop
:)
"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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hey,
> laptop is better than nothing. ;-)
>
>
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> > "Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:6YUTb.168382$Rc4.1295740@attbi_s54... > > thanks for the History.... > > > > I had the "50th Anniversary Edition", maybe it was NASCAR Racing 3 with > all > > the packs, but I never played it.... payed $40 new then sold it on eBay > for > > $5 recently. > > > > N2003 works great on my laptop. I need to practice though.... > > > > Thanks! > > > > On a Laptop? eeww.... > I like the idea of TV out on a 50inch screen in 5.1 Dolby Digital. ButHave you seen a laptop with a MVA display? On par with a CRT.
Mitch
"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> On a Laptop? eeww....
> I like the idea of TV out on a 50inch screen in 5.1 Dolby Digital. Buthey,
> laptop is better than nothing. ;-)
>
>
what is "MVA" please?
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Have you seen a laptop with a MVA display? On par with a CRT. > > Mitch > > "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jgYTb.761$An3.626@edtnps84... > > > > On a Laptop? eeww.... > > I like the idea of TV out on a 50inch screen in 5.1 Dolby Digital. But > hey, > > laptop is better than nothing. ;-) > > > > > >
"TlgtrProd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail... but, a TRUE friend willbe
> sitting next to you saying, "Damn, let's screw!!!!."
roflmao...sorry, couldn't help myself.....*ahem*
Nascar 4 is several years older than NR2003.
-Larry
"Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Yes, I did go back to the store today and buy N2003 for $9.99 and I > downloaded all the add-ons too.... > > What is NASCAR 4? Is that newer? Different? > > Thanks! > > Gary > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:orQTb.20250$fZ6.16165@lakeread06... > > Get it! > > > > Papyrus' NR200x series is at the end of it's _commercial_ life as far as > new > > versions go. However the latest patch opened up it's guts to the point > > where there will be new tracks, etc... for basically ever. > > > > -Larry > > > > "Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:EhOTb.83519$U%5.447621@attbi_s03... > > > I was at Best Buy last night and saw "NASCAR 2003 Season" for $9.99 > > > Is that the full version of the game that everyone is playing and > talking > > > about. > > > It is by Sierra. I heard there is no 2004 coming down the road, that > this > > > series is at the end of it's life? > > > > > > Sorry for the stupid question, I play the Need for Speed and F1 games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >This may help.
Pasted from http://www.pctechguide.com/07panels.htm
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Continuing research on its VA system led to a refinement - which Fujitsu
refer to as Multi-domain Vertical Alignment (MVA) technology - a year later.
The conventional mono-domain VA technology uniformly tilts the LC molecules
to display an intermediate grey scale. Because of the uniform alignment of
LC molecules, the brightness changes depending on the viewing angle. When
this type of cell is viewed from the front, the viewer sees only a part of
the light that entered the LC cell because the birefringence effect of the
tilted LC molecules is only partial for viewers from the front. If a cell in
this state is observed in the direction of the tilt, the birefringence
effect disappears and the area appears dark. On the other hand, if the cell
is observed in the direction normal to the tilt, the birefringence effect by
the LC molecules reaches the maximum, producing a high brightness.
MVA solves this problem by causing the LC molecules to angle in more than
one direction within a single cell. This is done by dividing the cell into
two or more regions - called domains - and by using protrusions on the glass
surfaces to pretilt the molecules in the desired direction. By combining
areas of molecules oriented in one direction with areas of molecules
oriented in the opposite direction, and by making the areas very small, the
brightness of the cells can be made to appear uniform over a wide range of
viewing angles.
It transpires that at least four domains are needed to balance
characteristics such as the contrast ratio, chromaticity, and brightness
over different angles, and the viewing angle of four-domain MVA-LCDs is 160�
or more, both vertically and horizontally. When they were first introduced
in late 1997 they were capable of a maximum contrast ratio of 300:1.
Improvements in light leakage subsequently improved this to 500:1.
Brightness values were similarly improved from 200 cd/m2 to 250cd/m2.
Response times are as fast as 25ms, the rise time being 15ms and the decay
time 10 ms or less. The 10ms response from white to black - which is the
most recognisable transition to human eyes - is particularly fast, making an
MVA-LCD particularly suitable for reproducing moving images.
"Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> what is "MVA" please?
>
That is the predecessor to NR2003, by more than one iteration...
here's the evolutionary list if I recall it correctly, just FYI...
1 1995 or1996? - Nascar Racing By Papyrus on 6 floppies low RES only low
detail gfx
on CD you could run 640x480 and more "hi-res" details. Only online was a
beta thing called "Hawaii" you called long distance to connect to a server
that hosted races, no "WEB" involved.
2 Nascar Racing2 (To race "online" but at least it was using the "web",
But you had to subscribe to a gaming service)
there was a BGN expansion pack offered too for NR2.
There was an expansion pack for this with BGN and tracks IIRC...
*3 Nascar Racing 3 (gaming service died, free service via Sierra now in it)
There was a Craftsman trucks expansion for NR3
*3.5 (Nascar Legends Merely the same game as NR2 & 3 but based on the early
1970's era cars.)
4 Nascar Racing 1999 (LOL they thought they had to release something LOL)
Nascar Racing 4 (Finally the new version, new physics allowed cars to catch
air)
Nascar Racing 2002 more fixes to NR4 ended the problem (or to me the
problem) of seemingly racing on ice, once the cars tires lost grip, you were
toast,
5 Nascar Racing 2003
the Patch for NR2003 has made 2003 especially worth while since seems the
guys who know how to do it, are "modding" the he|| out of it :P
* means arguably worth the upgrade from the earlier version, and hell yes
they argued on this group, :)
Demented One wrote:
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> Yes, I did go back to the store today and buy N2003 for $9.99 and I > downloaded all the add-ons too.... > > What is NASCAR 4? Is that newer? Different? > > Thanks! > > Gary > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:orQTb.20250$fZ6.16165@lakeread06... >> Get it! >> >> Papyrus' NR200x series is at the end of it's _commercial_ life as >> far as new versions go. However the latest patch opened up it's >> guts to the point where there will be new tracks, etc... for >> basically ever. >> >> -Larry >> >> "Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:EhOTb.83519$U%5.447621@attbi_s03... >>> I was at Best Buy last night and saw "NASCAR 2003 Season" for $9.99 >>> Is that the full version of the game that everyone is playing and >>> talking about. >>> It is by Sierra. I heard there is no 2004 coming down the road, >>> that this series is at the end of it's life? >>> >>> Sorry for the stupid question, I play the Need for Speed and F1 >>> games.9.99 !!! wow !!! I just paid 24.99 cnd each for the both copies I just
bought. They had 54.99 still on the box. I had to talk to the manager to
get the price lowered even. 9.99 Great deal, Great Game. get it youll
love it.
"Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I was at Best Buy last night and saw "NASCAR 2003 Season" for $9.99 > Is that the full version of the game that everyone is playing and talking > about. > It is by Sierra. I heard there is no 2004 coming down the road, that this > series is at the end of it's life? > > Sorry for the stupid question, I play the Need for Speed and F1 games. > > >I wonder prompted Papy to put superspeedways on the demo of N2003?
Talledega is the fastest track to drive and I really get a speed fix with
it.
It is practically curtailing my urge to run out and buy the retail version
since I prefer driving the superspeedways anyway.
Is that extremely fast Coca-Cola track from N2002 on NK3?
If it is, I just might have to cough up $$....lol
"pcfreak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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talking
> > about.
> > It is by Sierra. I heard there is no 2004 coming down the road, thatthis
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> 9.99 !!! wow !!! I just paid 24.99 cnd each for the both copies I just > bought. They had 54.99 still on the box. I had to talk to the manager to > get the price lowered even. 9.99 Great deal, Great Game. get it youll > love it. > "Demented One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:EhOTb.83519$U%5.447621@attbi_s03... > > I was at Best Buy last night and saw "NASCAR 2003 Season" for $9.99 > > Is that the full version of the game that everyone is playing andQuoted text (8 lines)
> > series is at the end of it's life? > > > > Sorry for the stupid question, I play the Need for Speed and F1 games. > > > > > > > >> As Senor Wences would no doubt say...."S'alright!" :)
>
> Bob
Now that's not a reference you see everyday. :)
MadDAWG
In article <4024d5fa$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
Couldn't help it, dude. Saw a comedian on Comedy Central the night I
wrote the reply...(the ventriloquist with the purple dummy and the
"jalapeno on the stick")...Can't remember his name (the comedian, that
is....), and when he put the jalapeno dummy away, he did the "S'alright?
S'alright! S'OK? S'OK!" bit......
Bob


































