Ok,
I hope the race cleared up for y'all after my demise, because what I saw of
it was pretty poor.
I do have to told my hand up too as I was involved in two yellow triggering
incidents and caused a lot of confusion on another.
To start with the yellow triggering ones I don't know what lap or the how
manieth restart it was, but I thought I'd seen Larry chat he was going to
pit. I thought I could see him behind, but then I started doubting myself as
he was pushing to pass. Let him around at T3, positively saw it was Larry
then thought "I hope he doens't try to make it down into the pits". He
seemed to entertain the notion, so I backed right off suprising whoever was
behind me at the time.
Then, on the next restart I think, I was dropping back through the field,
not having succeeded in making my final lap up. My tyres still weren't up to
temperature so I was taking it easy into the turns. This allowed JLe a run
to the outside, so I tried to keep it on the low line just in case and it
just got away from me. Pretty silly for the game to throw a yellow for that
(I was well out of everybody's way), but it does.
As for the confusion bit. Yellow came out as the leader had just crossed
s/f, so I thought I had an opportunity to make a lap up. Spotter started
giving me stay behind messages, though so I dropped back not wanting to risk
a black flag. The leaders then nearly stopped at s/f again, so I scrambled
to get around just to avoid a big pile up. Again stay behind messages, so I
dropped to the apron and let them go again. Then I got "pass the xx car" so
the spotter had finally caught up to the reality of the situation. Meanwhile
everything was mixed up though and I think some drivers got black flags
because of it.
Guys, I appreciate the gesture, but I'd rather you not stop to give a let
bye. Slow on the back stretch, but keep going at a reasonable lick. In this
case I was pretty sure the game had it wrong, but I didn't want to risk
dropping even more laps down due to a black flag. I think I gave a clear
signal I wasn't going to take you up on your offer by dropping in line
again.
Anyhow, I apologise for my part of the mess.
Jan.
=---
PS.: on the plus side, the cable connect seemed pretty good on my end. How'd
I look?
Chaotic RASCAR race at Rockingham
Drivers reviewed a messy RASCAR Cup race at Rockingham where only 7 of about 23 cars finished. Neil Charlton won, and Eldred took his first podium and the points lead. Several drivers apologised for incidents and confusion over lucky-dog and black-flag procedures, while Mark Seery called the driving standards abysmal.
online racing/leaguesNASCAR Racing 2003 Season
Automated summary.
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
>
and may I add....
I believe I may have broken the 2 spin rule this week. Not sure, but I think
I did.
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ok,
>
> I hope the race cleared up for y'all after my demise, because what I sawof
> it was pretty poor.
Sorry for anyone that got screwed up by my connection blinking out and the
lockup I had. New DSL and new Radeon 9800 Pro growing pains.
Kyle
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[snip]
> As for the confusion bit. Yellow came out as the leader had just crossed
> s/f, so I thought I had an opportunity to make a lap up. Spotter started
> giving me stay behind messages, though so I dropped back not wanting torisk
> a black flag. The leaders then nearly stopped at s/f again, so I scrambled
> to get around just to avoid a big pile up. Again stay behind messages, soI
> dropped to the apron and let them go again. Then I got "pass the xx car"so
> the spotter had finally caught up to the reality of the situation.Meanwhile
> everything was mixed up though and I think some drivers got black flags
> because of it.
That would be me :( I didn't conciously slow to a crawl - you seemed close
enough to get your lap back but never seemed to get any closer. I should
really have kept the speed up more and I apologise for any confusion - I
understand what we're supposed to do I just got confused. Sorry for any it
caught out.
I managed to get one of them black flags. I pitted to clear it and a yellow
came out just before I entered pit lane. It wouldn't let me clear it so I
was then a lap down plus still a bf. By thetime I cleared it, I was 3 laps
down. Thanks to all those who tried to get me a lap back - you did it better
than my pathetic effort described above - much appreciated. Sorry to James
for my over-exuberance in trying to get one of them back.
We seem to get one of these surreal races every so often - hopefully that's
it for a while.
Regards
Can someone please post the results?
David G Fisher
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:NIRZb.9324$[email hidden]...
> Ok,
>
> I hope the race cleared up for y'all after my demise, because what I sawof
> it was pretty poor.
>
> I do have to told my hand up too as I was involved in two yellowtriggering
> incidents and caused a lot of confusion on another.
>
> To start with the yellow triggering ones I don't know what lap or the how
> manieth restart it was, but I thought I'd seen Larry chat he was going to
> pit. I thought I could see him behind, but then I started doubting myselfas
> he was pushing to pass. Let him around at T3, positively saw it was Larry
> then thought "I hope he doens't try to make it down into the pits". He
> seemed to entertain the notion, so I backed right off suprising whoeverwas
> behind me at the time.
>
> Then, on the next restart I think, I was dropping back through the field,
> not having succeeded in making my final lap up. My tyres still weren't upto
> temperature so I was taking it easy into the turns. This allowed JLe a run
> to the outside, so I tried to keep it on the low line just in case and it
> just got away from me. Pretty silly for the game to throw a yellow forthat
> (I was well out of everybody's way), but it does.
>
> As for the confusion bit. Yellow came out as the leader had just crossed
> s/f, so I thought I had an opportunity to make a lap up. Spotter started
> giving me stay behind messages, though so I dropped back not wanting torisk
> a black flag. The leaders then nearly stopped at s/f again, so I scrambled
> to get around just to avoid a big pile up. Again stay behind messages, soI
> dropped to the apron and let them go again. Then I got "pass the xx car"so
> the spotter had finally caught up to the reality of the situation.Meanwhile
> everything was mixed up though and I think some drivers got black flags
> because of it.
>
> Guys, I appreciate the gesture, but I'd rather you not stop to give a let
> bye. Slow on the back stretch, but keep going at a reasonable lick. Inthis
How'd
> I look?
>
>
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> case I was pretty sure the game had it wrong, but I didn't want to risk > dropping even more laps down due to a black flag. I think I gave a clear > signal I wasn't going to take you up on your offer by dropping in line > again. > > Anyhow, I apologise for my part of the mess. > > Jan. > =--- > PS.: on the plus side, the cable connect seemed pretty good on my end.
"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Can someone please post the results?
>
> David G Fisher
Got them from the site. Jurgen was quick. :-)
Race No. 002 - NORTH CAROLINA SPEEDWAY - 02/22/04
Clear, 70 �F, Southwest 0 mph
Pos. No. Driver Interval Laps Led Pts. Status
1 6 Neil__C 91.862 197 77 185 Running
2 1 Mitch_A -1L 196 12 175 Running
3 26 epickett -1L 196 27 170 Running
4 67 UweSchuerkamp -2L 195 3 165 Running
5 42 bluestringer -2L 195 0 155 Running
6 103 JurjenvanderLelij -2L 195 0 150 Running
7 12 Haqsau -2L 195 25 151 Running
8 03 ShepherdRAS -73L 124 13 147 Piston
9 7 Dick-Trickle -78L 119 29 143 Accident
10 170 joonjoonli -79L 118 0 134 Retired
11 00 seery -87L 110 0 130 Ignition
12 45 Bamadano -100L 97 0 127 Gearbox
13 66 s_brunt -106L 91 0 124 Retired
14 15 BFarmer -119L 78 0 121 Accident
15 19 DaveGF -123L 74 0 118 Disco
16 49 ZZBusch -124L 73 0 115 Retired
17 17 j_verschue_RAS -131L 66 0 112 Accident
18 98 LTB-Racer -143L 54 0 109 Retired
19 86 86_k_roberts -146L 51 0 106 Disco
20 99 Elrikk -147L 50 5 108 Accident
21 27 BOster -158L 39 6 105 Disco
22 33 Coorzman -191L 6 0 97 Retired
23 11 LizardspitRAS 0 0 97 Provisional
24 3 TNA Loan 0 0 97 Provisional
25 07 mcfadds 0 0 97 Provisional
26 2 tpaullin 0 0 97 Provisional
Caution Flags/Laps 18/69 Lead Changes/Leaders 13/9
Scoring provided by Score4.
Race Awards
Pole DaveGF, 153.935 mph
Front Runner Neil__C, 77 laps Lead
Meet the Challenge epickett, 19 places improved
Headache BOster, 17 places dropped
Diehard Racer Haqsau
Qualify
Clear, 70 �F, Southwest 0 mp
Pos. No. Driver Speed Dif. F/N Time Dif. F/N
1 19 DaveGF 153.935 0/0 23.784 0/0
2 7 Dick-Trickle 153.825 0.110/0.110 23.801 0.017/0.017
3 6 Neil__C 153.150 0.785/0.675 23.906 0.122/0.105
4 27 BOster 153.067 0.868/0.083 23.919 0.135/0.013
5 15 BFarmer 152.607 1.328/0.460 23.991 0.207/0.072
6 86 86_k_roberts 151.697 2.238/0.910 24.135 0.351/0.144
7 103 JurjenvanderLelij 151.609 2.326/0.088 24.149 0.365/0.014
8 03 ShepherdRAS 151.208 2.727/0.401 24.213 0.429/0.064
9 66 s_brunt 151.202 2.733/0.006 24.214 0.430/0.001
10 42 bluestringer 151.177 2.758/0.025 24.218 0.434/0.004
11 1 Mitch_A 151.089 2.846/0.088 24.232 0.448/0.014
12 99 Elrikk 151.083 2.852/0.006 24.233 0.449/0.001
13 98 LTB-Racer 151.027 2.908/0.056 24.242 0.458/0.009
14 00 seery 150.382 3.553/0.645 24.346 0.562/0.104
15 33 Coorzman 150.320 3.615/0.062 24.356 0.572/0.010
16 12 Haqsau 149.902 4.033/0.418 24.424 0.640/0.068
17 17 j_verschue_RAS 149.761 4.174/0.141 24.447 0.663/0.023
18 67 UweSchuerkamp 148.720 5.215/1.041 24.618 0.834/0.171
19 45 Bamadano 147.766 6.169/0.954 24.777 0.993/0.159
20 49 ZZBusch 145.442 8.493/2.324 25.173 1.389/0.396
21 170 joonjoonli 137.226 6.709/8.216 26.680 2.896/1.507
22 26 epickett Prov.
23 11 LizardspitRAS Prov.
24 3 TNA Loan Prov.
25 07 mcfadds Prov.
26 2 tpaullin Prov.
Look who's leading the series. :-)
Point Standings after Race #2
Pos Driver ST W T5 T10 AvFP P AvSP PTS BF/BN
1 epickett 2 0 2 2 3.50 0 20.50 335 0/0
2 bluestringer 2 0 1 2 6.00 0 8.50 306 29/29
3 Neil__C 2 1 1 1 8.00 0 8.00 303 32/3
4 Mitch_A 2 0 1 1 8.00 0 10.50 296 39/7
5 Dick-Trickle 2 0 0 2 8.50 0 3.00 285 50/11
6 seery 2 0 0 1 8.50 0 11.00 285 50/0
7 LTB-Racer 2 0 1 1 10.00 0 15.00 284 51/1
8 TNA Loan 2 1 1 1 12.50 1 12.50 282 53/2
9 DaveGF 2 0 1 1 10.00 1 1.50 278 57/4
10 ShepherdRAS 2 0 0 1 10.50 0 7.00 276 59/2
11 BOster 2 0 1 1 12.00 0 12.00 270 65/6
12 UweSchuerkamp 2 0 1 1 15.00 0 22.00 268 67/2
13 BFarmer 2 0 0 0 12.50 0 4.00 256 79/12
14 Haqsau 2 0 0 1 15.50 0 20.00 254 81/2
15 JurjenvanderLelij 2 0 0 1 14.00 0 14.50 253 82/1
16 ZZBusch 2 0 0 1 13.00 0 20.50 249 86/4
17 Bamadano 2 0 0 0 14.00 0 12.00 242 93/7
18 joonjoonli 2 0 0 1 17.50 0 23.00 237 98/5
19 s_brunt 2 0 0 0 15.00 0 12.00 236 99/1
20 tpaullin 2 0 0 1 17.50 0 22.00 235 100/1
21 mcfadds 2 0 0 0 18.50 0 19.50 224 111/11
22 j_verschue_RAS 2 0 0 0 19.00 0 14.50 215 120/9
23 Elrikk 2 0 0 0 19.50 0 14.00 214 121/1
24 86_k_roberts 2 0 0 0 21.00 0 14.50 209 126/5
25 Coorzman 2 0 0 0 20.00 0 12.00 206 129/3
26 LizardspitRAS 2 0 0 0 21.50 0 17.00 200 135/6
ST Starts W Wins
T5 Top 5 Finishes T10 Top 10 Finishes
AvFP Average Finish Position P Poles
AvSP Average Start Position PTS Points
BF Points Behind First Place BN Points Behind Next Position
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> > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Can someone please post the results? > > > > David G Fisher > > Got them from the site. Jurgen was quick. :-) > > Race No. 002 - NORTH CAROLINA SPEEDWAY - 02/22/04 > > Clear, 70 �F, Southwest 0 mph > Pos. No. Driver Interval Laps Led Pts. Status > 1 6 Neil__C 91.862 197 77 185 Running > 2 1 Mitch_A -1L 196 12 175 Running > 3 26 epickett -1L 196 27 170 Running > 4 67 UweSchuerkamp -2L 195 3 165 Running > 5 42 bluestringer -2L 195 0 155 Running > 6 103 JurjenvanderLelij -2L 195 0 150 Running > 7 12 Haqsau -2L 195 25 151 Running > 8 03 ShepherdRAS -73L 124 13 147 Piston > 9 7 Dick-Trickle -78L 119 29 143 Accident > 10 170 joonjoonli -79L 118 0 134 Retired > 11 00 seery -87L 110 0 130 Ignition > 12 45 Bamadano -100L 97 0 127 Gearbox > 13 66 s_brunt -106L 91 0 124 Retired > 14 15 BFarmer -119L 78 0 121 Accident > 15 19 DaveGF -123L 74 0 118 Disco > 16 49 ZZBusch -124L 73 0 115 Retired > 17 17 j_verschue_RAS -131L 66 0 112 Accident > 18 98 LTB-Racer -143L 54 0 109 Retired > 19 86 86_k_roberts -146L 51 0 106 Disco > 20 99 Elrikk -147L 50 5 108 Accident > 21 27 BOster -158L 39 6 105 Disco > 22 33 Coorzman -191L 6 0 97 Retired > 23 11 LizardspitRAS 0 0 97 Provisional > 24 3 TNA Loan 0 0 97 Provisional > 25 07 mcfadds 0 0 97 Provisional > 26 2 tpaullin 0 0 97 Provisional > > Caution Flags/Laps 18/69 Lead Changes/Leaders 13/9 > Scoring provided by Score4. > > > > > Race Awards > Pole DaveGF, 153.935 mph > Front Runner Neil__C, 77 laps Lead > Meet the Challenge epickett, 19 places improved > Headache BOster, 17 places dropped > Diehard Racer Haqsau > > > > > Qualify > Clear, 70 �F, Southwest 0 mp > Pos. No. Driver Speed Dif. F/N Time Dif. F/N > 1 19 DaveGF 153.935 0/0 23.784 0/0 > 2 7 Dick-Trickle 153.825 0.110/0.110 23.801 0.017/0.017 > 3 6 Neil__C 153.150 0.785/0.675 23.906 0.122/0.105 > 4 27 BOster 153.067 0.868/0.083 23.919 0.135/0.013 > 5 15 BFarmer 152.607 1.328/0.460 23.991 0.207/0.072 > 6 86 86_k_roberts 151.697 2.238/0.910 24.135 0.351/0.144 > 7 103 JurjenvanderLelij 151.609 2.326/0.088 24.149 0.365/0.014 > 8 03 ShepherdRAS 151.208 2.727/0.401 24.213 0.429/0.064 > 9 66 s_brunt 151.202 2.733/0.006 24.214 0.430/0.001 > 10 42 bluestringer 151.177 2.758/0.025 24.218 0.434/0.004 > 11 1 Mitch_A 151.089 2.846/0.088 24.232 0.448/0.014 > 12 99 Elrikk 151.083 2.852/0.006 24.233 0.449/0.001 > 13 98 LTB-Racer 151.027 2.908/0.056 24.242 0.458/0.009 > 14 00 seery 150.382 3.553/0.645 24.346 0.562/0.104 > 15 33 Coorzman 150.320 3.615/0.062 24.356 0.572/0.010 > 16 12 Haqsau 149.902 4.033/0.418 24.424 0.640/0.068 > 17 17 j_verschue_RAS 149.761 4.174/0.141 24.447 0.663/0.023 > 18 67 UweSchuerkamp 148.720 5.215/1.041 24.618 0.834/0.171 > 19 45 Bamadano 147.766 6.169/0.954 24.777 0.993/0.159 > 20 49 ZZBusch 145.442 8.493/2.324 25.173 1.389/0.396 > 21 170 joonjoonli 137.226 6.709/8.216 26.680 2.896/1.507 > 22 26 epickett Prov. > 23 11 LizardspitRAS Prov. > 24 3 TNA Loan Prov. > 25 07 mcfadds Prov. > 26 2 tpaullin Prov. > > > >What does "Diehard racer" mean?
"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > > Got them from the site. Jurgen was quick. :-) > > Race No. 002 - NORTH CAROLINA SPEEDWAY - 02/22/04 > > Clear, 70 �F, Southwest 0 mph > Pos. No. Driver Interval Laps Led Pts. Status > 1 6 Neil__C 91.862 197 77 185 Running > 2 1 Mitch_A -1L 196 12 175 Running > 3 26 epickett -1L 196 27 170 Running > 4 67 UweSchuerkamp -2L 195 3 165 Running > 5 42 bluestringer -2L 195 0 155 Running > 6 103 JurjenvanderLelij -2L 195 0 150 Running > 7 12 Haqsau -2L 195 25 151 Running > 8 03 ShepherdRAS -73L 124 13 147 Piston > 9 7 Dick-Trickle -78L 119 29 143 Accident > 10 170 joonjoonli -79L 118 0 134 Retired > 11 00 seery -87L 110 0 130 Ignition > 12 45 Bamadano -100L 97 0 127 Gearbox > 13 66 s_brunt -106L 91 0 124 Retired > 14 15 BFarmer -119L 78 0 121 Accident > 15 19 DaveGF -123L 74 0 118 Disco > 16 49 ZZBusch -124L 73 0 115 Retired > 17 17 j_verschue_RAS -131L 66 0 112 Accident > 18 98 LTB-Racer -143L 54 0 109 Retired > 19 86 86_k_roberts -146L 51 0 106 Disco > 20 99 Elrikk -147L 50 5 108 Accident > 21 27 BOster -158L 39 6 105 Disco > 22 33 Coorzman -191L 6 0 97 Retired > 23 11 LizardspitRAS 0 0 97 Provisional > 24 3 TNA Loan 0 0 97 Provisional > 25 07 mcfadds 0 0 97 Provisional > 26 2 tpaullin 0 0 97 Provisional > > Caution Flags/Laps 18/69 Lead Changes/Leaders 13/9 > Scoring provided by Score4. > > > > > Race Awards > Pole DaveGF, 153.935 mph > Front Runner Neil__C, 77 laps Lead > Meet the Challenge epickett, 19 places improved > Headache BOster, 17 places dropped > Diehard Racer Haqsau > > > > > Qualify > Clear, 70 �F, Southwest 0 mp > Pos. No. Driver Speed Dif. F/N Time Dif. F/N > 1 19 DaveGF 153.935 0/0 23.784 0/0 > 2 7 Dick-Trickle 153.825 0.110/0.110 23.801 0.017/0.017 > 3 6 Neil__C 153.150 0.785/0.675 23.906 0.122/0.105 > 4 27 BOster 153.067 0.868/0.083 23.919 0.135/0.013 > 5 15 BFarmer 152.607 1.328/0.460 23.991 0.207/0.072 > 6 86 86_k_roberts 151.697 2.238/0.910 24.135 0.351/0.144 > 7 103 JurjenvanderLelij 151.609 2.326/0.088 24.149 0.365/0.014 > 8 03 ShepherdRAS 151.208 2.727/0.401 24.213 0.429/0.064 > 9 66 s_brunt 151.202 2.733/0.006 24.214 0.430/0.001 > 10 42 bluestringer 151.177 2.758/0.025 24.218 0.434/0.004 > 11 1 Mitch_A 151.089 2.846/0.088 24.232 0.448/0.014 > 12 99 Elrikk 151.083 2.852/0.006 24.233 0.449/0.001 > 13 98 LTB-Racer 151.027 2.908/0.056 24.242 0.458/0.009 > 14 00 seery 150.382 3.553/0.645 24.346 0.562/0.104 > 15 33 Coorzman 150.320 3.615/0.062 24.356 0.572/0.010 > 16 12 Haqsau 149.902 4.033/0.418 24.424 0.640/0.068 > 17 17 j_verschue_RAS 149.761 4.174/0.141 24.447 0.663/0.023 > 18 67 UweSchuerkamp 148.720 5.215/1.041 24.618 0.834/0.171 > 19 45 Bamadano 147.766 6.169/0.954 24.777 0.993/0.159 > 20 49 ZZBusch 145.442 8.493/2.324 25.173 1.389/0.396 > 21 170 joonjoonli 137.226 6.709/8.216 26.680 2.896/1.507 > 22 26 epickett Prov. > 23 11 LizardspitRAS Prov. > 24 3 TNA Loan Prov. > 25 07 mcfadds Prov. > 26 2 tpaullin Prov. > > > >No idea.
"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> What does "Diehard racer" mean?
"Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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scrambled
> > to get around just to avoid a big pile up. Again stay behind messages,so
yellow
> came out just before I entered pit lane. It wouldn't let me clear it so I
> was then a lap down plus still a bf. By thetime I cleared it, I was 3 laps
> down. Thanks to all those who tried to get me a lap back - you did itbetter
> than my pathetic effort described above - much appreciated. Sorry to James
> for my over-exuberance in trying to get one of them back.
>
> We seem to get one of these surreal races every so often - hopefullythat's
> it for a while.
>
> Regards
>
>
No problem Neil. I came up on the leader a little too hot and had to go left
to avoid. I was right in the path of anyone trying to get their lap back. I
didn't get much damage from it, but later Joon spun in front of me and I
picked up quite a bit of damage from not being able to avoid him.
bluestringer
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> > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:NIRZb.9324$[email hidden]... > [snip] > > As for the confusion bit. Yellow came out as the leader had just crossed > > s/f, so I thought I had an opportunity to make a lap up. Spotter started > > giving me stay behind messages, though so I dropped back not wanting to > risk > > a black flag. The leaders then nearly stopped at s/f again, so IQuoted text (15 lines)
> I > > dropped to the apron and let them go again. Then I got "pass the xx car" > so > > the spotter had finally caught up to the reality of the situation. > Meanwhile > > everything was mixed up though and I think some drivers got black flags > > because of it. > > That would be me :( I didn't conciously slow to a crawl - you seemed close > enough to get your lap back but never seemed to get any closer. I should > really have kept the speed up more and I apologise for any confusion - I > understand what we're supposed to do I just got confused. Sorry for any it > caught out. > > I managed to get one of them black flags. I pitted to clear it and a
"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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My apologies Mitch for telling you to go low on the restart that caused you
to get the BF. I should have let you go high, but I thought you were going
to wait until we got to turn 1 before making the pass.
bluestringer
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> > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Can someone please post the results? > > > > David G Fisher > > Got them from the site. Jurgen was quick. :-) > > Race No. 002 - NORTH CAROLINA SPEEDWAY - 02/22/04 > > Clear, 70 �F, Southwest 0 mph > Pos. No. Driver Interval Laps Led Pts. Status > 1 6 Neil__C 91.862 197 77 185 Running > 2 1 Mitch_A -1L 196 12 175 Running > 3 26 epickett -1L 196 27 170 Running > 4 67 UweSchuerkamp -2L 195 3 165 Running > 5 42 bluestringer -2L 195 0 155 Running > 6 103 JurjenvanderLelij -2L 195 0 150 Running > 7 12 Haqsau -2L 195 25 151 Running > 8 03 ShepherdRAS -73L 124 13 147 Piston > 9 7 Dick-Trickle -78L 119 29 143 Accident > 10 170 joonjoonli -79L 118 0 134 Retired > 11 00 seery -87L 110 0 130 Ignition > 12 45 Bamadano -100L 97 0 127 Gearbox > 13 66 s_brunt -106L 91 0 124 Retired > 14 15 BFarmer -119L 78 0 121 Accident > 15 19 DaveGF -123L 74 0 118 Disco > 16 49 ZZBusch -124L 73 0 115 Retired > 17 17 j_verschue_RAS -131L 66 0 112 Accident > 18 98 LTB-Racer -143L 54 0 109 Retired > 19 86 86_k_roberts -146L 51 0 106 Disco > 20 99 Elrikk -147L 50 5 108 Accident > 21 27 BOster -158L 39 6 105 Disco > 22 33 Coorzman -191L 6 0 97 Retired > 23 11 LizardspitRAS 0 0 97 Provisional > 24 3 TNA Loan 0 0 97 Provisional > 25 07 mcfadds 0 0 97 Provisional > 26 2 tpaullin 0 0 97 Provisional > > Caution Flags/Laps 18/69 Lead Changes/Leaders 13/9 > Scoring provided by Score4. > > > > > Race Awards > Pole DaveGF, 153.935 mph > Front Runner Neil__C, 77 laps Lead > Meet the Challenge epickett, 19 places improved > Headache BOster, 17 places dropped > Diehard Racer Haqsau > > > > > Qualify > Clear, 70 �F, Southwest 0 mp > Pos. No. Driver Speed Dif. F/N Time Dif. F/N > 1 19 DaveGF 153.935 0/0 23.784 0/0 > 2 7 Dick-Trickle 153.825 0.110/0.110 23.801 0.017/0.017 > 3 6 Neil__C 153.150 0.785/0.675 23.906 0.122/0.105 > 4 27 BOster 153.067 0.868/0.083 23.919 0.135/0.013 > 5 15 BFarmer 152.607 1.328/0.460 23.991 0.207/0.072 > 6 86 86_k_roberts 151.697 2.238/0.910 24.135 0.351/0.144 > 7 103 JurjenvanderLelij 151.609 2.326/0.088 24.149 0.365/0.014 > 8 03 ShepherdRAS 151.208 2.727/0.401 24.213 0.429/0.064 > 9 66 s_brunt 151.202 2.733/0.006 24.214 0.430/0.001 > 10 42 bluestringer 151.177 2.758/0.025 24.218 0.434/0.004 > 11 1 Mitch_A 151.089 2.846/0.088 24.232 0.448/0.014 > 12 99 Elrikk 151.083 2.852/0.006 24.233 0.449/0.001 > 13 98 LTB-Racer 151.027 2.908/0.056 24.242 0.458/0.009 > 14 00 seery 150.382 3.553/0.645 24.346 0.562/0.104 > 15 33 Coorzman 150.320 3.615/0.062 24.356 0.572/0.010 > 16 12 Haqsau 149.902 4.033/0.418 24.424 0.640/0.068 > 17 17 j_verschue_RAS 149.761 4.174/0.141 24.447 0.663/0.023 > 18 67 UweSchuerkamp 148.720 5.215/1.041 24.618 0.834/0.171 > 19 45 Bamadano 147.766 6.169/0.954 24.777 0.993/0.159 > 20 49 ZZBusch 145.442 8.493/2.324 25.173 1.389/0.396 > 21 170 joonjoonli 137.226 6.709/8.216 26.680 2.896/1.507 > 22 26 epickett Prov. > 23 11 LizardspitRAS Prov. > 24 3 TNA Loan Prov. > 25 07 mcfadds Prov. > 26 2 tpaullin Prov. > > > >Maybe it means you have to hit me harder to take me out. ;o)
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> No idea. > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What does "Diehard racer" mean? > >>What does "Diehard racer" mean?
>
Dunno Hal but it's better than the headache award:) I got that one last week.
This race really ticked me off. I was finally running OK...running 3rd on the
b/s already in 4th and POW no more 4th gear. Arghhhh
Dan
> Pos. No. Driver Interval Laps Led Pts. Status
> 1 6 Neil__C 91.862 197 77 185 Running
> 2 1 Mitch_A -1L 196 12 175 Running
> 3 26 epickett -1L 196 27 170 Running
Hey - first podium! Too bad only 7 cars finished, though... :-(
Eldred
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>Look who's leading the series. :-)
>
> Point Standings after Race #2
> Pos Driver ST W T5 T10 AvFP P AvSP PTS BF/BN
> 1 epickett 2 0 2 2 3.50 0 20.50 335 0/0
Ok, *that* can't be right...
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>What does "Diehard racer" mean?
Last car running, I believe.
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You ever hear of the term SANDBAGGER :))
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> >Look who's leading the series. :-) > > > > Point Standings after Race #2 > > Pos Driver ST W T5 T10 AvFP P AvSP PTS BF/BN > > 1 epickett 2 0 2 2 3.50 0 20.50 335 0/0 > > Ok, *that* can't be right... > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US East
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ok,
>
> I hope the race cleared up for y'all after my demise, because what I sawof
> it was pretty poor.
Driving standards were abysmal last night in general. I'm still too damned
angry to spout out here. I'd only say something I'd regret, suffice to say,
that certain people may do well to consider the virtues of racing marbles
around a fruit bowl. Much safer for them.
MS
Jan,
I announced during the yellow chit-chat that I would be pitting on the next
Yellow. However, that came only 1 lap latter so it obvously wasn't worth
it.
In retrospect, I wish I had of. When I did finally pit it ended up costing
me my race. Just bad luck.
-Larry
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ok,
>
> I hope the race cleared up for y'all after my demise, because what I sawof
> it was pretty poor.
>
> I do have to told my hand up too as I was involved in two yellowtriggering
> incidents and caused a lot of confusion on another.
>
> To start with the yellow triggering ones I don't know what lap or the how
> manieth restart it was, but I thought I'd seen Larry chat he was going to
> pit. I thought I could see him behind, but then I started doubting myselfas
> he was pushing to pass. Let him around at T3, positively saw it was Larry
> then thought "I hope he doens't try to make it down into the pits". He
> seemed to entertain the notion, so I backed right off suprising whoeverwas
> behind me at the time.
>
> Then, on the next restart I think, I was dropping back through the field,
> not having succeeded in making my final lap up. My tyres still weren't upto
> temperature so I was taking it easy into the turns. This allowed JLe a run
> to the outside, so I tried to keep it on the low line just in case and it
> just got away from me. Pretty silly for the game to throw a yellow forthat
> (I was well out of everybody's way), but it does.
>
> As for the confusion bit. Yellow came out as the leader had just crossed
> s/f, so I thought I had an opportunity to make a lap up. Spotter started
> giving me stay behind messages, though so I dropped back not wanting torisk
> a black flag. The leaders then nearly stopped at s/f again, so I scrambled
> to get around just to avoid a big pile up. Again stay behind messages, soI
> dropped to the apron and let them go again. Then I got "pass the xx car"so
> the spotter had finally caught up to the reality of the situation.Meanwhile
> everything was mixed up though and I think some drivers got black flags
> because of it.
>
> Guys, I appreciate the gesture, but I'd rather you not stop to give a let
> bye. Slow on the back stretch, but keep going at a reasonable lick. Inthis
How'd
> I look?
>
>
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> case I was pretty sure the game had it wrong, but I didn't want to risk > dropping even more laps down due to a black flag. I think I gave a clear > signal I wasn't going to take you up on your offer by dropping in line > again. > > Anyhow, I apologise for my part of the mess. > > Jan. > =--- > PS.: on the plus side, the cable connect seemed pretty good on my end.Yep, I got caught up in that too. Got the black flag for passing under
yellow.
I was _extremely_ confused and didn't understand until now why that happened
to us.
I, too, was about to enter pit lane to clear the flag when the yellow came
out. Knowing pitting then wouldn't clear it, I cautiosly aborted the entry
to pit road.
From there I really don't know what happened. I was back up on the track,
everything was looking ok, and then a car came down from my blind side 90
degree's to me right into my path. I never saw it coming, and I still don't
know who it was or where they came from. I hit it in the drivers door, and
my day was over.
On to next week :)
-Larry
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> I managed to get one of them black flags. I pitted to clear it and ayellow
> came out just before I entered pit lane. It wouldn't let me clear it so I
> was then a lap down plus still a bf. By thetime I cleared it, I was 3 laps
> down. Thanks to all those who tried to get me a lap back - you did itbetter
> than my pathetic effort described above - much appreciated. Sorry to James
> for my over-exuberance in trying to get one of them back.
>
> We seem to get one of these surreal races every so often - hopefullythat's
> it for a while.
>
> Regards
>
>
Only 7 out of 23 cars finished?
Dayummm. I don't feel so bad now!
-Larry
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> > Pos. No. Driver Interval Laps Led Pts. Status > > 1 6 Neil__C 91.862 197 77 185 Running > > 2 1 Mitch_A -1L 196 12 175 Running > > 3 26 epickett -1L 196 27 170 Running > > Hey - first podium! Too bad only 7 cars finished, though... :-( > > Eldred > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US EastOh. So that's not really a good thing then? Oh well, I finished 7
positions better than I started, and I somehow *survived* the whole thing,
so I don't feel too bad about it. I think I probably could have finished
one or two positions higher if I had pitted under the last yellow to get
fresh tires, but that's racing isn't it?
Actually had some good racing during one of the green flag runs towards the
end. When my tires started to go and somebody (Jurjen?) tried to get under
me I decided to see how long I could hold him off by taking the high line.
I think it took him several laps to finally get clear of me. Looked just
like on TV, he would get into the corner and just about pass me but by the
time we got to the exit I had built up more speed and he couldn't quite make
it. Fun stuff.
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> >What does "Diehard racer" mean? > > Last car running, I believe. > > Eldred > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US East
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ok,
><major snippage>
Sorry I did not make the race. I never even got to practice and
unfortunatly it looks like that may be the case for a good bit of the
spring. I am recently working insane hours and includes Saturday
afternoons.
On the good side of this, the money I am making means that the next time I
am able to join a Rascar race I should be using computing power more up to
the challenge and let me actually see some nice graphics.
Sean
No worries bud. It was my own brain fart :-)
Mitch
"bluestringer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:z1VZb.5603>
> My apologies Mitch for telling you to go low on the restart that causedyou
> to get the BF. I should have let you go high, but I thought you were going
> to wait until we got to turn 1 before making the pass.
>
> bluestringer
>
>
>You ever hear of the term SANDBAGGER :))
As a bowler, I'm *well* aware of that term. But my finish in yesterday's race
had more to do with problems experienced by others than any skill on my part.
You and Neil simply drove away from me - nothing I could do. There were at
least 5-6 other cars that were much faster than I could ever be. They just met
unfortunate circumstances. Same thing happened with Daytona. Don't get me
wrong - I'm happy with my finish. But I'm not going to delude myself into
thinking that it was MY doing.<g>
Eldred
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EldredP wrote:
You're not giving yourself enough credit, you were there at the end in
both races to pick up a good finish, that's all that matters and staying
out of trouble is a skill in itself
And the history books (scoreboard) doesn't say anything about how you
got those finishes either, so unless you insist on letting people know
how it actually went down, who's to know :-D, just enjoy your moment in
the sun Eldred :-D
Beers and cheers
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> > >You ever hear of the term SANDBAGGER :)) > > As a bowler, I'm *well* aware of that term. But my finish in yesterday's race > had more to do with problems experienced by others than any skill on my part. > You and Neil simply drove away from me - nothing I could do. There were at > least 5-6 other cars that were much faster than I could ever be. They just met > unfortunate circumstances. Same thing happened with Daytona. Don't get me > wrong - I'm happy with my finish. But I'm not going to delude myself into > thinking that it was MY doing.<g>Yeah, it really is fun when you can race someone like that lap after lap :)
-Larry
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> end. When my tires started to go and somebody (Jurjen?) tried to getunder
> me I decided to see how long I could hold him off by taking the high line.
> I think it took him several laps to finally get clear of me. Looked just
> like on TV, he would get into the corner and just about pass me but by the
> time we got to the exit I had built up more speed and he couldn't quitemake
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> Oh. So that's not really a good thing then? Oh well, I finished 7 > positions better than I started, and I somehow *survived* the whole thing, > so I don't feel too bad about it. I think I probably could have finished > one or two positions higher if I had pitted under the last yellow to get > fresh tires, but that's racing isn't it? > > Actually had some good racing during one of the green flag runs towardsQuoted text (22 lines)
> it. Fun stuff. > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >What does "Diehard racer" mean? > > > > Last car running, I believe. > > > > Eldred > > -- > > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > Screamers League > > IICC League > > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > > N2k3 rank:in progress > > Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin > > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > > US East > >EldredP wrote:
>> Pos. No. Driver Interval Laps Led Pts. Status
>> 1 6 Neil__C 91.862 197 77 185 Running
>> 2 1 Mitch_A -1L 196 12 175 Running
>> 3 26 epickett -1L 196 27 170 Running
> Hey - first podium!
Show-off ;) <g>
Too bad only 7 cars finished, though... :-(
Well, um... If I read this right you still finished 3rd out of 7 with
about 10 or more starters, right? If so, what's so bad about that? Hey,
if the first two had made a fatal mistake you'd even have won! :)
Regards, Rudy
(GPLRank -21)
>> Hey - first podium!
>
>Show-off ;) <g>
>
Touche'
>Too bad only 7 cars finished, though... :-(
>
>Well, um... If I read this right you still finished 3rd out of 7 with
>about 10 or more starters, right? If so, what's so bad about that? Hey,
>if the first two had made a fatal mistake you'd even have won! :)
I was sorta *hoping* they would trip over each other...<g>
Eldred
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I think we started with over 20. Regardless of what happened Eldred, 3rd of
20 is great :) Neil and I both "tried" to give ya our spots numerous times
each :))
Mitch
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> EldredP wrote: > > >> Pos. No. Driver Interval Laps Led Pts. Status > >> 1 6 Neil__C 91.862 197 77 185 Running > >> 2 1 Mitch_A -1L 196 12 175 Running > >> 3 26 epickett -1L 196 27 170 Running > > > Hey - first podium! > > Show-off ;) <g> > > > Too bad only 7 cars finished, though... :-( > > Well, um... If I read this right you still finished 3rd out of 7 with > about 10 or more starters, right? If so, what's so bad about that? Hey, > if the first two had made a fatal mistake you'd even have won! :) > > Regards, Rudy > (GPLRank -21) >I believe it was 23 or 24 actually. Congrats to Neil/podium. I am
still so ticked off at McAfee I can't see straight. This was one of
my favorite tracks and we only get to run it once. Oh well, it won't
happen again, McAfee has been removed and is going back. When I
disable something I don't want it popping up little windows telling me
it is disable. How incredibly brain dead is that.
Brian Oster
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