New PAPYRUS racing titles !!! [mini-FAQ]

For those who may still be a little bit messed up by the whole name the names that SierraSports and EA did, here is now an _OFFICIAL_ list of the upcoming Papyrus titles. Papyrus/Sierra Sports upcoming titles : - Grand Prix Legends 1967 Formula 1 revolutionary simulator End of September - Craftmans Truck Series Expansion set Nascar truck division add-on for Nascar 2 Fourth quarter of 1998 - Nascar Racing 1999 Nascar 2 package with the GNS and CTS add-on Fourth quarter of 1999 - Nascar Racing 2000 Upcoming revolutionary Nascar simulator (formally known as Nascar3) Second quarter of 1999 - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

Wow...99, eh? hehe... >- Nascar Racing 1999 >Nascar 2 package with the GNS and CTS add-on >Fourth quarter of 1999

Official Papyrus product clarification: (P.S.: Im not happy, but I don't complain). The NASCAR Racing 1999 Edition is based on the NASCAR 2 engine but it will include many new features and enhancements. All of the tracks have been updated to 1998 specs, including new tracks such as Las Vegas, the reconfigured Atlanta, Sears Point, Texas, and Darlington. The game will ship with 34 tracks in all, including the 1998 teams for NASCAR's top 3 series. For the first time we will have full support for the NASCAR Craftman Truck series including new truck physics, tracks (Pikes Peak, Homestead, Memphis, etc.) and truck rules. NASCAR Racing 1999 Edition will be Win95 native, and have enhanced support for 3dfx-based accelerators. There will also be many graphical and AI improvements, including double file restarts. There will be no NASCAR Craftman Truck add on to NASCAR 2. NASCAR Racing 3 / NASCAR Racing 2000 Edition is still on schedule for Q2 1999. The name has not been officially decided yet, but this is the NASCAR product to be based on the Grand Prix Legends engine. I hope that clears up the confusion. The PR position at Papyrus has been vacant for some time, so the information flow has been inconsistent and inaccurate. Dave Matson Director, NASCAR Racing 1999 Edition Papyrus

Will you have support for rendition based 3d cards? Thanks, Kerry Grant

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> Official Papyrus product clarification: > (P.S.: Im not happy, but I don't complain). > The NASCAR Racing 1999 Edition is based on the NASCAR 2 engine but it > will include many new features and enhancements. All of the tracks have > been updated to 1998 specs, including new tracks such as Las Vegas, the > reconfigured Atlanta, Sears Point, Texas, and Darlington. The game will > ship with 34 tracks in all, including the 1998 teams for NASCAR's top 3 > series. For the first time we will have full support for the NASCAR > Craftman Truck series including new truck physics, tracks (Pikes Peak, > Homestead, Memphis, etc.) and truck rules. > NASCAR Racing 1999 Edition will be Win95 native, and have enhanced > support for 3dfx-based accelerators. There will also be many graphical > and AI improvements, including double file restarts. > There will be no NASCAR Craftman Truck add on to NASCAR 2. > NASCAR Racing 3 / NASCAR Racing 2000 Edition is still on schedule for Q2 > 1999. The name has not been officially decided yet, but this is the > NASCAR product to be based on the Grand Prix Legends engine. > I hope that clears up the confusion. The PR position at Papyrus has been > vacant for some time, so the information flow has been inconsistent and > inaccurate. > Dave Matson > Director, NASCAR Racing 1999 Edition > Papyrus

Anything about ICR3/CART2/etc?? Gary

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>For those who may still be a little bit messed up by the whole name the >names that SierraSports and EA did, here is now an _OFFICIAL_ list of the >upcoming Papyrus titles. >Papyrus/Sierra Sports upcoming titles : >- Grand Prix Legends >1967 Formula 1 revolutionary simulator >End of September >- Craftmans Truck Series Expansion set >Nascar truck division add-on for Nascar 2 >Fourth quarter of 1998 >- Nascar Racing 1999 >Nascar 2 package with the GNS and CTS add-on >Fourth quarter of 1999 >- Nascar Racing 2000 >Upcoming revolutionary Nascar simulator (formally known as Nascar3) >Second quarter of 1999 >- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard! >- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) >- Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ on the NROS >- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

You forgot Cart or IndyCar3 ! As far as trucks go they are good for hauling trash.

Yes, this is the title I'm really looking forward to, although GPL will have to make do in the meantime :) > Anything about ICR3/CART2/etc?? -- _ , ,----, ______________ _._ .___(_)|\=-n---_._\____| ____________ _./ _ \"-,---------,--/ _ \// Kevin Lee ,-=,( (_) ) | HONDA | ( (_) ) Go Zanardi #1! '---'-\___/--'---------'--\___/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> You forgot Cart or IndyCar3 ! > As far as trucks go they are good for hauling trash. very well putu are not the only one who thinks papy should get back to their roots (open wheel racing of today)

> > You forgot Cart or IndyCar3 ! > > As far as trucks go they are good for hauling trash. > very well putu are not the only one who thinks papy should get back to > their roots (open wheel racing of today) Though "others" may want Papy to get back to their "roots"... I think it's more of a situation where Papy wants to go where the $$'s are. And, like or not, the future racing $$'s in the US will Nascar dollars for the forseeable future. True, CART is the most popular form of open wheeled racing in the US, but still nowhere near the attendance figures of Nascar. Perhaps the Papy sales figures for Indy/ICR1/ICR2 can be compared to the sales of N1/N2/BGN to more fully understand this. Thus, even though some may not like it, I think you'll see their reasoning. BTW, didn't Papy and Sierra separate or something? Andre Ming

> They ARE going back to their roots, with CART3, so pick up your bottom > lip before you trip over it! You sure about that Bruce? I can't recall whether it was in the so-called "official" statment by Papyrus/Sierra about their upcoming racing titles. As for me, I hope so... but with all the shake ups at Papyrus/Sierra of late... I'm wondering... Andre

They ARE going back to their roots, with CART3, so pick up your bottom lip before you trip over it! > > You forgot Cart or IndyCar3 ! > > As far as trucks go they are good for hauling trash. > very well putu are not the only one who thinks papy should get back to > their roots (open wheel racing of today) -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

I couldn't have said it better myself. Kelvin www.nashville.com/~kelvin/kel.htm

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> > They ARE going back to their roots, with CART3, so pick up your bottom > > lip before you trip over it! > You sure about that Bruce? I can't recall whether it was in the > so-called "official" statment by Papyrus/Sierra about their upcoming > racing titles. As for me, I hope so... but with all the shake ups at > Papyrus/Sierra of late... I'm wondering... > Andre

well, that list they gave out was a list of titles coming up within a year or so. But since ICR3/CART2/Whatevertheywanttocallit is probably a minimum of 1 year away, then it doesn't fall into the "upcoming" category.

Only going by what they have said, that CART3 is on the schedule. But, as you rightly say, that may well have changed! > You sure about that Bruce? I can't recall whether it was in the > so-called "official" statment by Papyrus/Sierra about their upcoming > racing titles. As for me, I hope so... but with all the shake ups at > Papyrus/Sierra of late... I'm wondering... -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

From Papyrus's announcment. Nascar Racing 99 Q498 Nascar Racing 3/2000 Q299 N3 was not going to be ready in time and since they backed it up so they could work on it more, they are giving us something pretty damn good to play with untill N3 gets here. -- Brian Tate BTate80 on TEN Zanzibar in Quake2 (The guy running around with the middle finger up) Assist LA for THOMAS ENTERPRISES HAWAII ACE LEAGUE http://dithots.org

> They ARE going back to their roots, with CART3, so pick up your bottom > lip before you trip over it! or so they say 1st gpl soon, N2 w/ trucks this christmas, N3 mid next year at best we will be running CART2 in 1 and 1/2 years If I am remembering correctly thats a wait of 4 years inbetween CART and typically there has been a 1 to 1/2 year wait for NASCAR look at it this way: inbetween ICR2 and the next CART papy has made/will have made: 4 NASCAR products :N2, BGN, N2 w/trucks, N2000 1 air racing game (they thought that would sell better than CART2?) 1 old time racing sim (same here) I doubt that reno air races and GPL will sell as many as a CART2 based in the new physics would have (I may get flamed for this) -besides, if papy is doing what is in the best interest of their $$$ that doesn't mean I have to like it I really with CART2 had been given better priority!

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> > They ARE going back to their roots, with CART3, so pick up your bottom > > lip before you trip over it! > or so they say > 1st gpl soon, N2 w/ trucks this christmas, N3 mid next year > at best we will be running CART2 in 1 and 1/2 years > If I am remembering correctly thats a wait of 4 years inbetween CART and > typically there has been a 1 to 1/2 year wait for NASCAR > look at it this way: > inbetween ICR2 and the next CART papy has made/will have made: > 4 NASCAR products :N2, BGN, N2 w/trucks, N2000 > 1 air racing game (they thought that would sell better than CART2?) > 1 old time racing sim (same here) > I doubt that reno air races and GPL will sell as many as a CART2 based > in the new physics would have (I may get flamed for this) > -besides, if papy is doing what is in the best interest of their $$$ > that doesn't mean I have to like it I really with CART2 had been given > better priority!

You are forgetting who owns alot of stock in Papyrus. Bill France, Jr. Look at it this way, if you do have to upgrade your machine to run the title you're waiting for, it will cost much less when it comes out. -- David Martin Director of IVL http://ivl.card.unc.edu Producer of RaceSet http://ivl.card.unc.edu/RACESET/RACESET.HTM

I also believe one other reason we haven't seen an update to the CART series recently is that Papyrus didn't secure a license from CART for this year I'm sure of and possibly last year or next year. I'm not sure if Microsoft held an exclusive license with CART or not for CPR for these years, but I would not be at all surprised if this were true. I also think that Papyrus may have been hedging their bets a bit since the open-wheel series in the US had been in a bit of disarray last year with the IRL split. On Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:41:53 -0500, "David G. Martin"

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>> > They ARE going back to their roots, with CART3, so pick up your bottom >> > lip before you trip over it! >> or so they say >> 1st gpl soon, N2 w/ trucks this christmas, N3 mid next year >> at best we will be running CART2 in 1 and 1/2 years >> If I am remembering correctly thats a wait of 4 years inbetween CART and >> typically there has been a 1 to 1/2 year wait for NASCAR >> look at it this way: >> inbetween ICR2 and the next CART papy has made/will have made: >> 4 NASCAR products :N2, BGN, N2 w/trucks, N2000 >> 1 air racing game (they thought that would sell better than CART2?) >> 1 old time racing sim (same here) >> I doubt that reno air races and GPL will sell as many as a CART2 based >> in the new physics would have (I may get flamed for this) >> -besides, if papy is doing what is in the best interest of their $$$ >> that doesn't mean I have to like it I really with CART2 had been given >> better priority! >You are forgetting who owns alot of stock in Papyrus. Bill France, Jr. >Look at it this way, if you do have to upgrade your machine to run the >title you're waiting for, it will cost much less when it comes out.

Are you sure? Then why does SEGA have the rights to the Daytona track and not Papyrus for the NASCAR2 game? Ignorance is bliss...Don't abuse the privilege. ================================ ================================

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> >You are forgetting who owns alot of stock in Papyrus. Bill France, Jr. > Are you sure? > Then why does SEGA have the rights to the Daytona track and not Papyrus for the > NASCAR2 game? > Ignorance is bliss...Don't abuse the privilege. > ================================ > ================================

Diversification. Don't put all your eggs in France, someone might chase you and drive you into a bridge support. -- David Martin Director of IVL http://ivl.card.unc.edu Producer of RaceSet http://ivl.card.unc.edu/RACESET/RACESET.HTM