Installed DX6. Now can't run GP2

I installed DX6 and now I can't run GP2. The computer just halts on a blank screen and I have to reboot. Since DX6 can't be uninstalled, I'll have to do something drastic like reformat the hard drive unless someone has a brilliant idea for me. Every other game works with DX6. Well that's not quite true; my Warbirds flightsim did the same thing as GP2 did but I've since downloaded new D3D drivers for that. I don't suppose there are any new drivers for GP2 are there? That would be asking too much from Microprose. Charles

Dont blame GP2, i have w95 with dx6 and just tried GP2 and it works fine here. It must be something else. Mike. -- 19:10 on 08/12/98 From sunny Herne Bay, Kent.UK. mailable also at remove NO-SPAM to mail me.

Just guessing here, but.... Try installing DX 5 and see if it helps. Being a Warbird player I imagine you may have a MS Sidewinder (me too), that install disk has DX 5 on it.. Hope it helps. >I installed DX6 and now I can't run GP2. The computer just halts on a blank

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>screen and I have to reboot. Since DX6 can't be uninstalled, I'll have to >do something drastic like reformat the hard drive unless someone has a >brilliant idea for me. Every other game works with DX6. Well that's not >quite true; my Warbirds flightsim did the same thing as GP2 did but I've >since downloaded new D3D drivers for that. I don't suppose there are any >new drivers for GP2 are there? That would be asking too much from >Microprose. >Charles

do a search on the web for directx uninstaller --- i saw it a couple of days ago ------- it uninstalls dx5 & 6 -

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> Just guessing here, but.... > Try installing DX 5 and see if it helps. Being a Warbird player I imagine > you may have a MS Sidewinder (me too), that install disk has DX 5 on it.. > Hope it helps. > >I installed DX6 and now I can't run GP2. The computer just halts on a > blank > >screen and I have to reboot. Since DX6 can't be uninstalled, I'll have

to > >do something drastic like reformat the hard drive unless someone has a > >brilliant idea for me. Every other game works with DX6. Well that's not > >quite true; my Warbirds flightsim did the same thing as GP2 did but I've > >since downloaded new D3D drivers for that. I don't suppose there are any > >new drivers for GP2 are there? That would be asking too much from > >Microprose. > >Charles

GP2 is a DOS game, so, it doesn't need any new drivers because it will not use DX. The better way to run it is to configure it's shortcut to run on MS-DOS mode (right click, properties, program, advanced, MS-DOS mode). This way, Win95 will shutdown and run the game and after it, will restart. As a side effect, you will gain around 15~20% more FPS what is good for GP2. Roberto >I installed DX6 and now I can't run GP2. The computer just halts on a blank

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>screen and I have to reboot. Since DX6 can't be uninstalled, I'll have to >do something drastic like reformat the hard drive unless someone has a >brilliant idea for me. Every other game works with DX6. Well that's not >quite true; my Warbirds flightsim did the same thing as GP2 did but I've >since downloaded new D3D drivers for that. I don't suppose there are any >new drivers for GP2 are there? That would be asking too much from >Microprose. >Charles

I can second the DX6 problem. GP2 worked fine in DX5, but doesn't run anymore with DX6. It just freezes at a blank screen. I'm gonna try going back to DX5 and see what happens. Dave Zavelson

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> Just guessing here, but.... > Try installing DX 5 and see if it helps. Being a Warbird player I imagine > you may have a MS Sidewinder (me too), that install disk has DX 5 on it.. > Hope it helps. > >I installed DX6 and now I can't run GP2. The computer just halts on a > blank > >screen and I have to reboot. Since DX6 can't be uninstalled, I'll have to > >do something drastic like reformat the hard drive unless someone has a > >brilliant idea for me. Every other game works with DX6. Well that's not > >quite true; my Warbirds flightsim did the same thing as GP2 did but I've > >since downloaded new D3D drivers for that. I don't suppose there are any > >new drivers for GP2 are there? That would be asking too much from > >Microprose. > >Charles

Well, I reinstalled GP2 and now it works. Somehow (I think) DX6 didn't like the nocdrom.exe utility I was running. Strange. I'd say. Anyone else have the same sort of brazenness happen to them? Charles I can second the DX6 problem. GP2 worked fine in DX5, but doesn't run anymore with DX6. It just freezes at a blank screen. I'm gonna try going back to DX5 and see what happens. Dave Zavelson

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> Just guessing here, but.... > Try installing DX 5 and see if it helps. Being a Warbird player I imagine > you may have a MS Sidewinder (me too), that install disk has DX 5 on it.. > Hope it helps. > >I installed DX6 and now I can't run GP2. The computer just halts on a > blank > >screen and I have to reboot. Since DX6 can't be uninstalled, I'll have

to > >do something drastic like reformat the hard drive unless someone has a > >brilliant idea for me. Every other game works with DX6. Well that's not > >quite true; my Warbirds flightsim did the same thing as GP2 did but I've > >since downloaded new D3D drivers for that. I don't suppose there are any > >new drivers for GP2 are there? That would be asking too much from > >Microprose. > >Charles

Did you try to run GP2's setup utility after installing DX6? I've had similar problems because the installation of some software insists in changing the settings of my sound card, causing that GP2 will not run without running setup and re-detecting the sound card.

Finally some sense. Grand Prix 2 is a DOS game for the days when we had DOS and/or Windows not just Windows. Anyone who tries to run GP2 in Windows 95/98 needs shooting because they're slowing the game down and also risking crashes on those occasions that Win95 decides it needs to do something in the background. M

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>GP2 is a DOS game, so, it doesn't need any new drivers because it will not >use DX. The better way to run it is to configure it's shortcut to run on >MS-DOS mode (right click, properties, program, advanced, MS-DOS mode). This >way, Win95 will shutdown and run the game and after it, will restart. As a >side effect, you will gain around 15~20% more FPS what is good for GP2. >Roberto >>I installed DX6 and now I can't run GP2. The computer just halts on a >blank >>screen and I have to reboot. Since DX6 can't be uninstalled, I'll have to >>do something drastic like reformat the hard drive unless someone has a >>brilliant idea for me. Every other game works with DX6. Well that's not >>quite true; my Warbirds flightsim did the same thing as GP2 did but I've >>since downloaded new D3D drivers for that. I don't suppose there are any >>new drivers for GP2 are there? That would be asking too much from >>Microprose. >>Charles

Are you joking with this or do you just not understand this stuff? DirectX has no impact whatsoever for DOS games. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >I've had similar problems because the installation of some software insists >in changing the settings of my sound card, causing that GP2 will not run >without running setup and re-detecting the sound card. >> I installed DX6 and now I can't run GP2. The computer just halts on a >blank >> screen and I have to reboot. Since DX6 can't be uninstalled, I'll have >to >> do something drastic like reformat the hard drive unless someone has a >> brilliant idea for me. Every other game works with DX6. Well that's >not >> quite true; my Warbirds flightsim did the same thing as GP2 did but I've >> since downloaded new D3D drivers for that. I don't suppose there are any >> new drivers for GP2 are there? That would be asking too much from >> Microprose. >> Charles

I have DX6 running on my Windows 95 installation and everything works fine, no problems at all - no real benefits either, but that's the issue with GP2! In addition, you can always un-install Direct X through the install/uninstall Software tool in the Control Panel. David Lawson (Grey Knight)

> >Did you try to run GP2's setup utility after installing DX6? > Are you joking with this or do you just not understand this > stuff? DirectX has no impact whatsoever for DOS games. > -- It will if it changes the IRQ settings of the Plug & Pray ***(I prefer jumpers because they let _me_ set things the way _I_ want them).

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> >I've had similar problems because the installation of some software insists > >in changing the settings of my sound card, causing that GP2 will not run > >without running setup and re-detecting the sound card. > >> I installed DX6 and now I can't run GP2. The computer just halts on a > >> blank screen and I have to reboot. Since DX6 can't be uninstalled, I'll > >> have to do something drastic like reformat the hard drive unless someone > >> has a brilliant idea for me. Every other game works with DX6. Well > >> that's not quite true; my Warbirds flightsim did the same thing as GP2 > >> did but I've since downloaded new D3D drivers for that. I don't suppose > >> there are any new drivers for GP2 are there? That would be asking too > >> much from Microprose. > >> Charles

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> >I installed DX6 and now I can't run GP2. The computer just halts on a blank > >screen and I have to reboot. Since DX6 can't be uninstalled, I'll have to > >do something drastic like reformat the hard drive unless someone has a > >brilliant idea for me. Every other game works with DX6. Well that's not > >quite true; my Warbirds flightsim did the same thing as GP2 did but I've > >since downloaded new D3D drivers for that. I don't suppose there are any > >new drivers for GP2 are there? That would be asking too much from > >Microprose. > >Charles > I have DX6 running on my Windows 95 installation and everything works > fine, no problems at all - no real benefits either, but that's the > issue with GP2! > In addition, you can always un-install Direct X through the > install/uninstall Software tool in the Control Panel. > David Lawson (Grey Knight)

Same here on Windows 98!! -- Greetings :) ___ RuuD? []_.-' (Q_,._ (o)_[F1}____(o)Z> +--------------------------------------------------+

You guys are all lammers, GP2 is a DOS , game for max performace use REAL DOS, not DOS mode ! DirecX has nothing to do whit DOS games..... T

>No, but if the DOS game is being run from within Windows then DirectX may >be interferring with the game controller inputs. Yes, people should be Dear Mr. PC expert, Do you have any real proof of this? Thank you. Signed, [unknown NT system administrator responsible for ~200 PC's] [Who learned everything by DOS *** :-) ] hehe... -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

>Yep, such a comment really could only come from a sysadmin. I'm sure one >day you will offer a bit of helpful advice but until then you will remain >doomed to being someone only fit for plugging in ethernet connections.... Not quite. That is for 2 other fellas to do. I just trouble shoot all sorts of PC in addition to my main sysadmin responsibilities. In fact I believe there is no way DirectX impacts things going on in a DOS window. That is why I asked for *REAL* proof. I wanted to learn something new. Hey if anyone else has *REAL* proof of this, go a head and post it. I'm genuinely curious. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

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Not quite. I'm not sure what NT systems you are used to***ing around with. But that doesn't happen here. FWIW, I learned everything about PC almost 10 years ago by setting up my home PC for playing games. After that, NT is a piece of cake. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

I didn't install direct x6 so GP2 is still working but ICr2 is going like that and I have dx5 installed....

>>In fact I believe there is no way DirectX impacts things going >>on in a DOS window. That is why I asked for *REAL* proof. >>I wanted to learn something new. Hey if anyone else has *REAL* >>proof of this, go a head and post it. I'm genuinely curious. >Then why not just ask, rather than getting all sarcastic and getting my Because that is the type of guy that I am :-) OK I thought so :-) Many people offer thoughts. Many of which are also wrong. That is why I figure someone needs to set the record straight. DX does not impact any DOS games. Period. W95 certainly alters PnP cards which may not work in DOS anyway. There are many cases where you can play DOS games within W95 using W95's settings (including soundcard support). But this is much different than DirectX (programming interface), as it is a system thing. Believe it or not most peoples problems are easily explainable. The problem is that for a 100% answer you need to be sitting at their PC. I understand what you are saying. You just never know sometimes. But DIrectX does not affect DOS :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

I'm running GP2 with Dx6, no problem..... > >No, but if the DOS game is being run from within Windows then DirectX may

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> >be interferring with the game controller inputs. Yes, people should be > Dear Mr. PC expert, > Do you have any real proof of this? > Thank you. > Signed, > [unknown NT system administrator responsible for ~200 PC's] > [Who learned everything by DOS *** :-) ] > hehe... > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > >running GP2 from "real" DOS but trying to explain that to someone who's > >never used a CLI is a losing battle ;-) > >Cheers, > >Richard > >-- > >We all bump into each other every day of our lives, and we render our > opinions > >whether we know anything or not, and if anybody catches us out we lie...