grand prix 3

is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all those of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time soon?

> is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all those > of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry After the GP2 experience I will ignore previews or release dates of GP3. If I see the first (trustworthy) post saying "I bought it, it's great!", then I will check it out. Ever? Maybe. Any time soon? Naaaah! l8er ronny -- Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, kiddo?" |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

On Wed, 27 May 1998 17:42:53 +0200, Ronald Stoehr "I bought it, it's great!" ;-)) Just kidding! Maurice

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>> is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all those >> of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry >After the GP2 experience I will ignore previews or release dates of GP3. >If I see the first (trustworthy) post saying "I bought it, it's great!", >then I will check it out. >> but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time soon? >Ever? Maybe. Any time soon? Naaaah! >l8er >ronny >-- >Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, >kiddo?" > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

the word is the fall......of '98....1998 -- Jim Dunphy The Pits- http://www.theuspits.com

Let us hope that the recent financial results of micro-prose do not effect the release or development it was not mentioned in their forward looking statements, which surprised me as they did talk of a number of upcoming games. Hopefully someone will bail them out. the word is the fall......of '98....1998 -- Jim Dunphy The Pits- http://www.theuspits.com > is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all those > of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry > > but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time soon? >

At this time there are NO plans by either Geoff Crammond or MicroProse to create and publish a sequel to Grand Prix 2. Should Geoff Crammond decide to write another game we will publish it as his exclusive publisher. When this happens a press release will be issued which can be read on our WWW site. The stories and statements on the Internet and in the UK and US magazines are speculation and rumour. There is NO GP3 product due in the Autumn and no racing sim under development at this time. Regards, Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe >is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all those >of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry >but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time soon?

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> At this time there are NO plans by either Geoff Crammond or MicroProse > to > create and publish a sequel to Grand Prix 2. > Should Geoff Crammond decide to write another game we will publish it > as his > exclusive publisher. > When this happens a press release will be issued which can be read on > our > WWW site. > The stories and statements on the Internet and in the UK and US magazi > nes > are speculation and rumour. > There is NO GP3 product due in the Autumn and no racing sim under > development at this time. > Regards, > Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe > >is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all thos > e > >of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry > >but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time soon?

So the Interview with Geoff Crammond in the UK Spring 1998 edition of PC Format Gold (Special Racing Games Edition) is a complete fabrication is it? The whole three page article which includes direct quotes from the man himself are false, lies, non factual, and total b*ll*cks then are they? Microprose are, as we speak, sueing the publishers for liable & misrepresentation I assume? A reply to answer these points would be interesting and appreciated Mr Rich...... 8-) *Peter* 8-) (NB: remove asterix to e-mail)

% At this time there are NO plans by either Geoff Crammond or MicroProse to % create and publish a sequel to Grand Prix 2. % Should Geoff Crammond decide to write another game we will publish it as his % exclusive publisher. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is the scariest part of the message. If indeed Geoff is married to Microprose we are in big trouble...... -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Well "Mark", if Crammond ever writes it and *you* people ever publish it then you'd better do a damn sight better job of supporting it than what you did with GP1 and GP2. Until you do so then Microprose will always have the stigma of really not giving two hoots about their customers once the product has been bought.

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> At this time there are NO plans by either Geoff Crammond or MicroProse to > create and publish a sequel to Grand Prix 2. > Should Geoff Crammond decide to write another game we will publish it as his > exclusive publisher. > When this happens a press release will be issued which can be read on our > WWW site. > The stories and statements on the Internet and in the UK and US magazines > are speculation and rumour. > There is NO GP3 product due in the Autumn and no racing sim under > development at this time. > Regards, > Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe > >is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all those > >of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry > >but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time soon?

-- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

One assumes that you meant "libel"? Why would they be sued for libel, anyway? Who have they libelled? Misrepresented, maybe, but hardly a case of libel, surely? > Microprose are, as we speak, sueing the publishers for liable & > misrepresentation I assume? -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

Where is Geoff during all this? I'm sure he has access to the net and the newsgroups, how about something from the man himself. How about it Geoff??? -- Jim Dunphy The Pits- http://www.theuspits.com > At this time there are NO plans by either Geoff Crammond or MicroProse to > create and publish a sequel to Grand Prix 2. > Should Geoff Crammond decide to write another game we will publish it as his > exclusive publisher. > When this happens a press release will be issued which can be read on our > WWW site. > The stories and statements on the Internet and in the UK and US magazines > are speculation and rumour. > There is NO GP3 product due in the Autumn and no racing sim under > development at this time. > Regards, > Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe > >is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all those > >of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry > >but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time soon?

I have been listening to all of you whine for the last two years and I must say I'm ***y well sick of it. "We need this and we need that. The program wasn't finished, bah bah bah." I have to admit that Microprose was not the best choice but give me the benefit of the doubt, will you? I don't intend to go back to them. However, if you really wanted to show your support you should have gone out and bought the game. Shouldn't you have? I read these groups, and everybody seems to have a copy, but Microprose assures me that only 1400 copies have been sold world wide. So what am I supposed to do with 2500US? You had all better think about the ways in which you show your appreciation in the future. Hadn't you? For the record, GP3 is done. It's not a 3Dfx mock up of GP2. We started from scratch. It has full dynamic weather and a physics model that makes GPL look like child's play. It will run on a 286/40 with 2meg ram. It does require voodoo2 though. You can't have one. Me and my friends are going to play all by ourselves. Maybe we'll post some screen shots and pictures of us in our Hyperstimulators, drinking Guinness. Maybe we won't. -- Geoff Crammond "A lot of people think racing is about going fast. But it's not. It's about going just slow enough to stay on the track." F1RS - http://www.nmia.com/~chaser/car/results.htm Remove us here and there to mail me. Where is Geoff during all this? I'm sure he has access to the net and the newsgroups, how about something from the man himself. How about it Geoff??? -- Jim Dunphy The Pits- http://www.theuspits.com > At this time there are NO plans by either Geoff Crammond or MicroProse to > create and publish a sequel to Grand Prix 2. > Should Geoff Crammond decide to write another game we will publish it as his > exclusive publisher. > When this happens a press release will be issued which can be read on our > WWW site. > > The stories and statements on the Internet and in the UK and US magazines > are speculation and rumour. > There is NO GP3 product due in the Autumn and no racing sim under > development at this time. > > Regards, > Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe > > >is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all those > >of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry > > > >but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time soon? > > >

Yeah, yeah - but what's the sound like ? ;-) Andy

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> I have been listening to all of you whine for the last two years and I > must say I'm ***y well sick of it. "We need this and we need that. > The program wasn't finished, bah bah bah." I have to admit that > Microprose was not the best choice but give me the benefit of the > doubt, will you? I don't intend to go back to them. > However, if you really wanted to show your support you should have > gone out and bought the game. Shouldn't you have? I read these groups, > and everybody seems to have a copy, but Microprose assures me that > only 1400 copies have been sold world wide. So what am I supposed to > do with 2500US? You had all better think about the ways in which you > show your appreciation in the future. Hadn't you? > For the record, GP3 is done. It's not a 3Dfx mock up of GP2. We > started from scratch. It has full dynamic weather and a physics model > that makes GPL look like child's play. It will run on a 286/40 with > 2meg ram. It does require voodoo2 though. > You can't have one. Me and my friends are going to play all by > ourselves. Maybe we'll post some screen shots and pictures of us in > our Hyperstimulators, drinking Guinness. > Maybe we won't. > -- > Geoff Crammond > "A lot of people think racing is about going fast. But it's not. It's > about going just slow enough to stay on the track." > F1RS - http://www.nmia.com/~chaser/car/results.htm > Remove us here and there to mail me. > Where is Geoff during all this? I'm sure he has access to > the net and the newsgroups, how about something from the man > himself. How about it Geoff??? > -- > Jim Dunphy > The Pits- http://www.theuspits.com > > At this time there are NO plans by either Geoff Crammond > or MicroProse to > > create and publish a sequel to Grand Prix 2. > > Should Geoff Crammond decide to write another game we will > publish it as his > > exclusive publisher. > > When this happens a press release will be issued which can > be read on our > > WWW site. > > The stories and statements on the Internet and in the UK > and US magazines > > are speculation and rumour. > > There is NO GP3 product due in the Autumn and no racing > sim under > > development at this time. > > Regards, > > Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe > > >is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing > so all those > > >of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry > > >but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time > soon?

Now THAT was funny, and ROTF... Remembers me of somebody from the vege server... Btw, we ALL know that Geoff is having some long-time vacations (errr this means 3years) in his Hawaiian island he bought with the Gp2 money he got (didn't do nothing after the publishing, so all the money went into his pockets (well most of it)). He also made the construction of a multi-million mansion in this island, with an incorporated private race track for his enjoyment. Note that those are not speculations, but the goddarn truth !!! ;-) ===== Geoff Crammond wrote I have been listening to all of you whine for the last two years and I must say I'm ***y well sick of it. "We need this and we need that. The program wasn't finished, bah bah bah." I have to admit that Microprose was not the best choice but give me the benefit of the doubt, will you? I don't intend to go back to them. However, if you really wanted to show your support you should have gone out and bought the game. Shouldn't you have? I read these groups, and everybody seems to have a copy, but Microprose assures me that only 1400 copies have been sold world wide. So what am I supposed to do with 2500US? You had all better think about the ways in which you show your appreciation in the future. Hadn't you? For the record, GP3 is done. It's not a 3Dfx mock up of GP2. We started from scratch. It has full dynamic weather and a physics model that makes GPL look like child's play. It will run on a 286/40 with 2meg ram. It does require voodoo2 though. You can't have one. Me and my friends are going to play all by ourselves. Maybe we'll post some screen shots and pictures of us in our Hyperstimulators, drinking Guinness. Maybe we won't. -- Geoff Crammond "A lot of people think racing is about going fast. But it's not. It's about going just slow enough to stay on the track." ===== - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

Nice one, Mark! > I have been listening to all of you whine for the last two years -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

> One assumes that you meant "libel"? > Why would they be sued for libel, anyway? Who have they libelled? > Misrepresented, maybe, but hardly a case of libel, surely? Oops! ok you got me there? I meant libel. 8-) Your right the publishers have *probably* not libelled anyone, I was just exagerating my point, eg:- the fact that GC *allegedly* had agreed to, and has given this interview, and now we have Mr Rich stating the exact opposite to what GC *allegedly* said in the interview? Mr Rich stated "The stories and statements on the Internet and in the UK and US magazines are speculation and rumour" - surely this means that he is saying the article is not correct? or, he is saying what GC *allegedly* said was not correct? He *must* be saying one or the other? GC appears to be saying GP3 *is* coming, Microprose (through Mr Rich) is saying it is not!!! Confused, you will be? I personally put more weight behind what GC says, than what Mr Rich says? We shall see...... 8-) *Peter* 8-) (NB: remove asterix to e-mail)

Will there be an Apple II version???

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> I have been listening to all of you whine for the last two years and I > must say I'm ***y well sick of it. "We need this and we need that. > The program wasn't finished, bah bah bah." I have to admit that > Microprose was not the best choice but give me the benefit of the > doubt, will you? I don't intend to go back to them. > However, if you really wanted to show your support you should have > gone out and bought the game. Shouldn't you have? I read these groups, > and everybody seems to have a copy, but Microprose assures me that > only 1400 copies have been sold world wide. So what am I supposed to > do with 2500US? You had all better think about the ways in which you > show your appreciation in the future. Hadn't you? > For the record, GP3 is done. It's not a 3Dfx mock up of GP2. We > started from scratch. It has full dynamic weather and a physics model > that makes GPL look like child's play. It will run on a 286/40 with > 2meg ram. It does require voodoo2 though. > You can't have one. Me and my friends are going to play all by > ourselves. Maybe we'll post some screen shots and pictures of us in > our Hyperstimulators, drinking Guinness. > Maybe we won't. > -- > Geoff Crammond > "A lot of people think racing is about going fast. But it's not. It's > about going just slow enough to stay on the track." > F1RS - http://www.nmia.com/~chaser/car/results.htm > Remove us here and there to mail me.

>Will there be an Apple II version??? no, but there will be a version for the 3Com Palm III.

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> He *must* be saying one or the other? GC appears to be saying GP3 *is* > coming, Microprose (through Mr Rich) is saying it is not!!! > Confused, you will be? > I personally put more weight behind what GC says, than what Mr Rich > says? We shall see......

Sounds like maybe Geoff has not told Microprose that he's given them the boot? Or maybe Microprose think he can't even if he wants too?

Funny guy don't you think? -- Jim Dunphy The Pits- http://www.theuspits.com I have been listening to all of you whine for the last two years and I must say I'm ***y well sick of it. "We need this and we need that. The program wasn't finished, bah bah bah." I have to admit that Microprose was not the best choice but give me the benefit of the doubt, will you? I don't intend to go back to them. However, if you really wanted to show your support you should have gone out and bought the game. Shouldn't you have? I read these groups, and everybody seems to have a copy, but Microprose assures me that only 1400 copies have been sold world wide. So what am I supposed to do with 2500US? You had all better think about the ways in which you show your appreciation in the future. Hadn't you? For the record, GP3 is done. It's not a 3Dfx mock up of GP2. We started from scratch. It has full dynamic weather and a physics model that makes GPL look like child's play. It will run on a 286/40 with 2meg ram. It does require voodoo2 though. You can't have one. Me and my friends are going to play all by ourselves. Maybe we'll post some screen shots and pictures of us in our Hyperstimulators, drinking Guinness. Maybe we won't. -- Geoff Crammond "A lot of people think racing is about going fast. But it's not. It's about going just slow enough to stay on the track." F1RS - http://www.nmia.com/~chaser/car/results.htm <http://www.nmia.com/~chaser/car/results.htm> Remove us here and there to mail me. Where is Geoff during all this? I'm sure he has access to the net and the newsgroups, how about something from the man himself. How about it Geoff??? -- Jim Dunphy The Pits- www.theuspits.com > At this time there are NO plans by either Geoff Crammond or MicroProse to > create and publish a sequel to Grand Prix 2. > Should Geoff Crammond decide to write another game we will publish it as his > exclusive publisher. > When this happens a press release will be issued which can be read on our > WWW site. > The stories and statements on the Internet and in the UK and US magazines > are speculation and rumour. > There is NO GP3 product due in the Autumn and no racing sim under > development at this time. > Regards, > Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe > >is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all those > >of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry > >but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time soon?

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> > He *must* be saying one or the other? GC appears to be saying GP3 *is* > > coming, Microprose (through Mr Rich) is saying it is not!!! > > Confused, you will be? > > I personally put more weight behind what GC says, than what Mr Rich > > says? We shall see...... > Sounds like maybe Geoff has not told Microprose that he's given them the boot? Or > maybe Microprose think he can't even if he wants too?

I sure wish someone would clear this up, first we hear "no GP3, no way, no how" then its "oh yeah there will be one" so I wonder who is right (hopefully the yes there will be) is correct. I'd hate to see such an absorbing sim not be carried forward to its potential. Trev

> Funny guy don't you think? > -- > Jim Dunphy > The Pits- http://www.theuspits.com <utter BS snipped> Actually I thought more stupid than funny. Trev

To All : If this fictious product called GP3 is to be released in the Autumn, would it not have have been an idea to publicise it big time at the recent E3 show in the US? As for the magazine article, you had best ask PC Format who ran it rather than MicroProse. We have all been told that although a future racing sim is a possibility from Geoff, and although he is always working to improve his product, no GP3 is being published in the forseeable future. Our internal UK Studio artists who helped create the graphics for GP2 are all currently working on the next XCOM title which will be released at the end of the year. They are NOT currently working on a GP3 which they would have to be if it were being launched in a few months (according to the magazines). We all understand the frustration that you all feel about wanting another racing sim. GP2 was very popular and sold well over a million units worldwide and we received a great many "thank you" letters and calls to us but no development work is underway for another racing sim at this time and as has been said many many times before, when we do publically annouce that a new sim will be developed a press release will be issued on our WWW site. Another thing to consider is the average development time needed for a game is 18 months to 3 years. Also the cost of a licence from FOCA for the product is a lot of money. This licence would be needed before we could release the program, if we had one. Just to recap, NO GP3 at this time. Regards, Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe

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>> He *must* be saying one or the other? GC appears to be saying GP3 *is* >> coming, Microprose (through Mr Rich) is saying it is not!!! >> Confused, you will be? >> I personally put more weight behind what GC says, than what Mr Rich >> says? We shall see...... > Sounds like maybe Geoff has not told Microprose that he's given them

the boot? Or >maybe Microprose think he can't even if he wants too?