N2, Talladega Question

I was wondering if the record lap speed shown in N2 was done without a restrictor plate. I would also like to know what kind of lap speeds you guys are doing with restrictor plates. The best I can manage is around 193mph or so. Thanks Dave

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> I was wondering if the record lap speed shown in N2 was done without a > restrictor plate. I would > also like to know what kind of lap speeds you guys are doing with restrictor > plates. The best I can manage is around 193mph or so. > Thanks > Dave

Hi Dave... Yes, the 212 MPH Bill Elliot record was before restrictor plates. As for what is a "typical" restrictor speed at Tally for solo simmers... seems like most can hit the 194 range (without drafting), a few can go higher, but I suspect there has been a significant amount of "tweaking the file numbers" to post anything much higher than 195 MPH. Key is in gearing, 60 PSI tire pressure, and driving very, very, smooth. Starting rather high in, and driving smoothly to the bottom of the curves... following a loooow line (next to the white line) around all the turns then drifting smoothly out of them. You do not want any tire sqeaking at all. Steer the car as if you're on ice. As for a car set up, if you don't like to fiddle excessively with setups, then simply use the "Ace" setup, and change top gear until you flicker the red line going into Turn 3 at the end of the back straight (once up to speed, i.e. 4 to 7 laps). Lower the wheel lock down to about 6-8 degrees (for aid smoothness) and practice being smoooooth. Have Fun... Andre Ming O.F. Racing

L. Andre Ming wrote >> I was wondering if the record lap speed shown in N2 was done without a >> restrictor plate. I would >> also like to know what kind of lap speeds you guys are doing with restrictor >> plates. The best I can manage is around 193mph or so. Considering the 70degree no wind situation, most of the good NROS drivers are able to get 195.5XX mph in qualification. As for racing.... Some drivers can do around 196.xxx mph laps without any drafting help, and with the draft it averages around 197.5-198mph. With temperature and wind changes, speeds (always non-restrictor racing) can go easily higher than 200mph in average. Practice, practice, practice... That's all. There is tons of information and help about getting fast in Nascar2. Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) --"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

> without the restrictor plate, my best is 203 I sure would like to know what your setup was. My best top speed (not drafting) has only been 203 and best limited number of consistant laps when my driving was almost perfect(according to my limited talents) was in the neighborhood of 194.24 and that was with 80 degree wx and 8mph SW wind. My best race laps have been in the 193's when traffic would allow. !!!! 203 LAPS--I WOULD NEED NITROS or ROCKET ASSISTS without tweeking the sim program!!!!!!!!!

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> >> I was wondering if the record lap speed shown in N2 was done without a > >> restrictor plate. I would > >> also like to know what kind of lap speeds you guys are doing with > restrictor > >> plates. The best I can manage is around 193mph or so. > >> Thanks > >> Dave > >193 is the most all of us ever got.

>I would also like to know what kind of lap speeds you guys are doing with restrictor >plates. The best I can manage is around 193mph or so. The best I'm consistently getting at an "unmodified" NR2 Talladega track - driving offline, alone on the track, and using random weather is 193's. I'm certainly no "pro" at NR2 or Talladega though. - Robert - ICQ Pager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/325605 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5655

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> > without the restrictor plate, my best is 203 > I sure would like to know what your setup was. My best top speed (not > drafting) has only been 203 and best limited number of consistant laps > when my driving was almost perfect(according to my limited talents) was > in the neighborhood of 194.24 and that was with 80 degree wx and 8mph SW > wind. My best race laps have been in the 193's when traffic would allow. > !!!! 203 LAPS--I WOULD NEED NITROS or ROCKET ASSISTS without tweeking > the sim program!!!!!!!!! > > >> I was wondering if the record lap speed shown in N2 was done without a > > >> restrictor plate. I would > > >> also like to know what kind of lap speeds you guys are doing with > > restrictor > > >> plates. The best I can manage is around 193mph or so. > > >> Thanks > > >> Dave > > >193 is the most all of us ever got.

My appoligies RPM--I misread your post- I thought you were saying you were averaging 203 with restrictor plates. Apparently I need lessons in reading also.

On TEN, you have to be able to run 195 in qual at 70 degree to be competitive >>I would also like to know what kind of lap speeds you guys are doing with restrictor

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>>plates. The best I can manage is around 193mph or so. >The best I'm consistently getting at an "unmodified" NR2 Talladega >track - driving offline, alone on the track, and using random weather >is 193's. I'm certainly no "pro" at NR2 or Talladega though. >- Robert - >ICQ Pager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/325605 >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5655

I can get 194's in the race, but 193 is the best in qualifying. >>I would also like to know what kind of lap speeds you guys are doing with restrictor

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>>plates. The best I can manage is around 193mph or so. >The best I'm consistently getting at an "unmodified" NR2 Talladega >track - driving offline, alone on the track, and using random weather >is 193's. I'm certainly no "pro" at NR2 or Talladega though. >- Robert - >ICQ Pager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/325605 >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5655

: I got 206.758 at 70 degrees no wind with a keyboard. : one problem I have is tha the tires wreent designed to go this : fast and during a race they go away fast. : I have the AI set at 110 and it is very competitive : during the race I can consistantly run 202-204 while in traffic : I dont know why yyou cany -- ___________________ / | | \ \ / | | \ \________/______|_______|__________\_______________ | ______ | ______ \_ __| / ____ \ | / ____ \ \_ (__ | / \ | | | / \ | | |_|| ||_______________________|______|| ||___| ____________\____/__________________________________\____/____________________ " They are gettin' on with it here at Talladega!" -Ned Jarret T'roy In G'ville-We race for beer here too! #3 #17

Wow, the best I get in traffic is 197's. Oh by the way where does the AI hide there extra 3 to 5 gals of fuel?

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>}: I got 206.758 at 70 degrees no wind with a keyboard. >}: one problem I have is tha the tires wreent designed to go this >}: fast and during a race they go away fast. >}: I have the AI set at 110 and it is very competitive >}: during the race I can consistantly run 202-204 while in traffic >}: I dont know why yyou cany >What do you get with the restrictor plate ? >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Dave Starr >Professional Shop Rat - 33 years in an Auto Plant

if you run without the ristrictor plate, you should be running about 212.

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>}: I got 206.758 at 70 degrees no wind with a keyboard. >}: one problem I have is tha the tires wreent designed to go this >}: fast and during a race they go away fast. >}: I have the AI set at 110 and it is very competitive >}: during the race I can consistantly run 202-204 while in traffic >}: I dont know why yyou cany >What do you get with the restrictor plate ? >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Dave Starr >Professional Shop Rat - 33 years in an Auto Plant

David Starr wrote

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>}: I got 206.758 at 70 degrees no wind with a keyboard. >}: one problem I have is tha the tires wreent designed to go this >}: fast and during a race they go away fast. >}: I have the AI set at 110 and it is very competitive >}: during the race I can consistantly run 202-204 while in traffic >}: I dont know why yyou cany >What do you get with the restrictor plate ?

I would say he gets around 206.758 ;-) And he can consistently run 202-204 while in traffic. <g> The guy thinks he is the best driver in the world... Most of the good people on the NROS that I know and tried can do 207+ laps without the restrictor plate. Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) --"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

Guys, Are these laps average lap speeds or max speeds at turn 3. 206-207 average alps would produce 212+ max speeds at turn 3. This is pretty damn fast. With out a restrictor plate yeah, but... I'm not sure what my average speeds are but times are 48.6 there about. That's pretty damn fast I think.

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>David Starr wrote >>}: I got 206.758 at 70 degrees no wind with a keyboard. >>}: one problem I have is tha the tires wreent designed to go this >>}: fast and during a race they go away fast. >>}: I have the AI set at 110 and it is very competitive >>}: during the race I can consistantly run 202-204 while in traffic >>}: I dont know why yyou cany >>What do you get with the restrictor plate ? >I would say he gets around 206.758 ;-) >And he can consistently run 202-204 while in traffic. ><g> The guy thinks he is the best driver in the world... Most of the good >people on the NROS that I know and tried can do 207+ laps without the >restrictor plate. >Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) >Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club >Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) >Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) >--"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

Bill McClintock wrote Ok, let me put this straight ;-) . I will talk from a NROS point of view. This is without any AI enhancment, no track.txt change for better grip, etc.. It's pure racing, and drafting with humans, not AI. Restrictor plate On, 70degrees no wind. With drafting, it's pretty easy to get 48.5 laps for the best drivers. We qual around 195.7mph. With the drafting, it's not unknown to hit the 210mark before turn 3, I did it quite often. WIthout the restrictor plate (we can't do this on the NROS), I can easily reach the 211mph average lap.

No matter how much I try...no matter what setup I use..the best I can get at Tally is a 193...or there about ..lap. Can someone send there best setup for a fast lap?..I use a Nascar Pro wheel..still can't seem to get beyond 193 or 194 avg lap

Bob Phinney wrote : Check out http://www.team-lightspeed.com/ You will find the best setup on the Internet for normal drivers. Take those setups to make your own, since you may have a different racing style and a other feeling. No setup is perfect, but you can perfect it. Just to help you also.... take the ACE setup, and put all the shocks at 100%. No make it your qualification setup. You should get easily 195mph, and 196mph with some little adjustments. Check out also http://www.theuspits.com/ , where you will find Bill Cranston (sp?) track guides. You will find some good information on Talladega there (I think www.ivga.com still has Joe's track guides also). The hint is to stay low, way low... That means left tires around 1feet over the white line at the bottom while racing. Oh and practice, practice, practice !!!! ;-) Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) --"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

Maybe you can explain to me how that is possible, as I consider myself to be fairly good at n2, and while I never play multiplayer because I can't afford to join one of the multiplayer services, I can qualify at 194, but the best lap in the race has been 196 for me, and that was with one hell of a draft. Top speed I have ever seen EVER has been about 203. Do you guys bump draft to get those speeds?

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>Bill McClintock wrote >> Are these laps average lap speeds or max speeds at turn 3. 206-207 >>average alps would produce 212+ max speeds at turn 3. This is pretty damn >>fast. With out a restrictor plate yeah, but... I'm not sure what my >>average speeds are but times are 48.6 there about. That's pretty damn >fast >>I think. >Ok, let me put this straight ;-) . I will talk from a NROS point of view. >This is without any AI enhancment, no track.txt change for better grip, >etc.. It's pure racing, and drafting with humans, not AI. Restrictor

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>On, 70degrees no wind. With drafting, it's pretty easy to get 48.5 laps >for the best drivers. We qual around 195.7mph. With the drafting, it's >not unknown to hit the 210mark before turn 3, I did it quite often. >WIthout the restrictor plate (we can't do this on the NROS), I can easily >reach the 211mph average lap. >>>Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) >>>Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >>>Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club >>>Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) >>>Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) >>>--"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't >realise >>>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

George, I've tried to bump draft, it speeds him up and slows me down. Perhaps with a human driver it works better. My best race speed in a draft has been 195.987. Then again I never run at 70 degrees with no wind. I have hit 204/205 on the back straight but never consistently. Rich Koehler (Anti-spam: Change rgko3hl3r to rgkoehler)

> Maybe you can explain to me how that is possible, as I consider myself to be > fairly good at n2, and while I never play multiplayer I considered myself pretty good before I played multiplayer too... Trips

George Buhr II wrote Well... Just hop on the NROS and you will understand ;-) Setup is almost 99% of your speed at Talladega. Just practice, practice and practice ! Seriously, try to stay on the low side of the track. Your left tires about 1-2feet from the white line at the bottom. The Tri-oval is the place to get your .2sec by lap. It's very important, and you should pay close attention to the way you take the tri-oval. For the drafting.. well... You can't compare AI to real humans. After drafting real people I can tell you that the normal AI is very difficult to draft. But if you go take those AI enhancements, well you will probably make different laptimes, since they have more/less drag, etc... 210mph at the end of the straight mean a good lap on the NROS, and it's not that rare. And me don't bump draft anymore, since it's too dangerous with the warps sometimes. Btw the NROS has some very low prices for people who just want to try it. Even a 5hour free trial. Check it out, it's the best thing in the SimRacing community presently. Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)