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Thinking about buying an LCD monitor

39 posts by 20 people · 18 Apr 2004 01:19 UTC - 22 Apr 2004 02:42 UTC

Choosing an LCD monitor for NR2003

Gordo asked for 17-inch LCD recommendations and whether NR2003's resolution would be a problem. Replies explained that NR2003 supports resolutions well above 1024x768 if the monitor driver allows it, and Steve Smith stressed running LCDs at their native resolution. Models from Dell, ViewSonic, Samsung and Planar were recommended, with mixed reports on gaming response times.

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gordo 18 Apr 2004 01:19 UTC#39634
Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? TIA.
Pete 18 Apr 2004 01:29 UTC↳ reply to gordo#39636
Here is the one that I use. Best bang for the buck. Some of the newer 12ms refresh monitors don't deliver as promised. http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcd_vg700.htm?p=3222 Pete "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > TIA. > >
gordo 18 Apr 2004 02:29 UTC↳ reply to gordo#39637
I have a GF4 Ti4400 graphics card with both DVI and VGA output. Which output gives better performance for N2003 graphics? "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > TIA. > >
> Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, Haven't played it for a while but I could have sworn it went higher...
"Damien Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c5sr4k$5205j$[email hidden]... > > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? > > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > > Haven't played it for a while but I could have sworn it went higher... > >My N2003 video setup utility shows 1024x768x32 max right now. I just checked. This also happens to be my max. desktop resolution in Windows. Does it somehow auto-detect higher resolutions when they become available?
TDRacin® 18 Apr 2004 03:45 UTC↳ reply to gordo#39547
Yes, N2k3 will go up to at least 1600x1200, maybe higher, not sure, but I know it is at least that. "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Aimgc.12035$[email hidden]... > > "Damien Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:c5sr4k$5205j$[email hidden]... > > > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well withN2003? > > > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > > > > Haven't played it for a while but I could have sworn it went higher... > > > > > My N2003 video setup utility shows 1024x768x32 max right now. I justchecked. > This also happens to be my max. desktop resolution in Windows. > Does it somehow auto-detect higher resolutions when they become available? > >
"gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Aimgc.12035$[email hidden]... > > "Damien Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:c5sr4k$5205j$[email hidden]... > > > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well withN2003? > > > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > > > > Haven't played it for a while but I could have sworn it went higher... > > > > > My N2003 video setup utility shows 1024x768x32 max right now. I justchecked. > This also happens to be my max. desktop resolution in Windows. > Does it somehow auto-detect higher resolutions when they become available? > > You can, as far as I remember, get higher resolutions than 1024x768 in N2003. But yes, the monitor has to be capable of higher resolutions, in order for you to play N2003 in 1280x1024, for example. Whatever Windows is able to do, those resolutions will show up-- to a certain extent-- in N2003. Funny thing with my FPD1830 (Gateway), after installing nVidia's 56.72 drivers (I have a GeForce Ti4200), my monitor goes from 1024x768 straight up to 1280x1024, without going to 1154x854, which I could get before I installed the 56.72s. When I go back to earlier drivers, that middle resolution appears again. I was told that if I reinstalled my monitor drivers, 1154x854 would again become available, but that hasn't worked with me. I like 1154x854 on my desktop because it is not too big nor too small. As it stands, I have resorted to 1024x768, which I've been able to live with. Sorry for the digression.... :) Alanb
I run N2003 in 1600x1200x32 4x 8x MASSIVECHICKEN "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > TIA. > >
Andrew 18 Apr 2004 08:43 UTC↳ reply to gordo#39546
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 03:08:16 GMT, "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote: >My N2003 video setup utility shows 1024x768x32 max right now. I just checked. >This also happens to be my max. desktop resolution in Windows. You are limited by the monitor driver information file you are using. NR2003 goes way beyond 1024x768. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
Andi Cole 18 Apr 2004 10:50 UTC↳ reply to gordo#39552
Just bought myself an AG Neovo E series 19" (click http://www.neovouk.com). It's absolutely brilliant in all but FPS games, when there is still a bit of motion blur. CMR04 and TRD2 demo are fine. Very bright colours, nice contrast and no dead pixels. You need to make sure you understand what policy the manufacturer and supplier have in terms of acceptable dead pixel count. Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply. "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > TIA. > >
In article <DRkgc.34415$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (19 lines)> Here is the one that I use. Best bang for the buck. Some of > the newer 12ms refresh monitors don't deliver as promised. > > http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcd_vg700.htm?p=3222 > > Pete > > > "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? > > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > > TIA. > > > > > > >
I was looking seriously at their VP201B. Like the model you cited, it shows a response time of 16ms...
I have a Dell 1800FP and it's fabulous. I've seen the 2000FP and it looks even better. (Don't believe the specs. Read the reviews and search the newsgroups.) Just ordered a ViewSonic VE700. I'll post my comments here later this week. "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > TIA. > >
The key is not analog v. digital, it's staying w. the native resolution. IOW, you have to match yer 'puta's capabilities w. the LCD: if yer machine can only run 1024x768 w. a satisfactory fps, don't buy a 1280x1024 LCD and run it at the lower rez; it will look horrible. "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1Klgc.12003$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> I have a GF4 Ti4400 graphics card with both DVI and VGA output. > Which output gives better performance for N2003 graphics? > > "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? > > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > > TIA. > > > > > >
John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:
Quoted text (16 lines)>> >> "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... >> > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with >> > N2003? Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, >> > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? >> > TIA. >> > >> > >> >> >> > > I was looking seriously at their VP201B. Like the model you cited, it > shows a response time of 16ms... >
The new issue of Maximum PC had a test of about a half dozen Flat LCD monitors. only a couple passed their gaming criteria. You might want to check that magazine out first. dh
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (26 lines)> John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > >> > >> "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > >> > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with > >> > N2003? Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > >> > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > >> > TIA. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > I was looking seriously at their VP201B. Like the model you cited, it > > shows a response time of 16ms... > > > > The new issue of Maximum PC had a test of about a half dozen Flat LCD > monitors. only a couple passed their gaming criteria. You might want to > check that magazine out first. > > dh >
Can you be so kind as to list the ones they rated as acceptable? Any 20-inchers among them?
> > Can you be so kind as to list the ones they rated as acceptable? Any > 20-inchers among them? > Sorry I don't have the issue. I just sneaked a peak at one while working.(one of the perks of being a mailman) Actually a Dell was one of the two or 3 they did approve of. dh(sssshhhh!)
TDRacin� wrote: > Yes, N2k3 will go up to at least 1600x1200, maybe higher, not sure, but I > know it is at least that. > > NR2003 can go up to 2048x1536x32, using my Viewsonic G220fb 20" monitor. -Will
Maximum PC had what I thought was a specious reason for rejecting the Viewsonic (which most other reviewers have liked): it didn't look good at 1280x1024. Well, DUH! Its native resolution is 1600x1200 (admitedly a steep barrier for anything but high-end 'putas). MPC ought to know better. LCDs only look good at their native rez - not higher and not lower. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (25 lines)> John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > >> > >> "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > >> > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with > >> > N2003? Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > >> > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > >> > TIA. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > I was looking seriously at their VP201B. Like the model you cited, it > > shows a response time of 16ms... > > > > The new issue of Maximum PC had a test of about a half dozen Flat LCD > monitors. only a couple passed their gaming criteria. You might want to > check that magazine out first. > > dh
They liked the Samsung 172X (almost always a good choice), the Planar PL1700 (both 17 inchers), and the Dell 2001FP (20 in.). I bought a Dell 1800FP on MPC's recomendation a year ago and it was just as good as they said it was (and both a lot bigger than a 17 in. and a lot cheaper than a 20 in.). The only prob with Dell's LCDs is that you can't examine them in the store before you take them home. Trust me, if you get into a dead-pixel argument, you'll lose...unless the screen looks like Tommy Lee Jones in "Batman." "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (24 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:[email hidden]: > > > > >> > > >> "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >> news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > > >> > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with > > >> > N2003? Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > > >> > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > > >> > TIA. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > I was looking seriously at their VP201B. Like the model you cited, it > > > shows a response time of 16ms... > > > > > > > The new issue of Maximum PC had a test of about a half dozen Flat LCD > > monitors. only a couple passed their gaming criteria. You might want
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Quoted text (7 lines)> > check that magazine out first. > > > > dh > > > > Can you be so kind as to list the ones they rated as acceptable? Any > 20-inchers among them?
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:53:04 GMT, "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>They liked the Samsung 172X (almost always a good choice), the Planar PL1700 >(both 17 inchers), and the Dell 2001FP (20 in.). I bought a Dell 1800FP on >MPC's recomendation a year ago and it was just as good as they said it was >(and both a lot bigger than a 17 in. and a lot cheaper than a 20 in.). The >only prob with Dell's LCDs is that you can't examine them in the store >before you take them home. Trust me, if you get into a dead-pixel argument, >you'll lose...unless the screen looks like Tommy Lee Jones in "Batman."
I tried a new Dell 19" a couple of weeks back, and it certainly wasn't up to gaming duties. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
Tell them the screen got scratched, that's how I got a new one in a few days. "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:A0Bgc.45130$[email hidden]... > They liked the Samsung 172X (almost always a good choice), the PlanarPL1700 > (both 17 inchers), and the Dell 2001FP (20 in.). I bought a Dell 1800FPon > MPC's recomendation a year ago and it was just as good as they said it was > (and both a lot bigger than a 17 in. and a lot cheaper than a 20 in.).The > only prob with Dell's LCDs is that you can't examine them in the store > before you take them home. Trust me, if you get into a dead-pixelargument,
Quoted text (23 lines)> you'll lose...unless the screen looks like Tommy Lee Jones in "Batman." > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > news:[email hidden]: > > > > > > >> > > > >> "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > >> news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > > > >> > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with > > > >> > N2003? Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > > > >> > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > > > >> > TIA. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > I was looking seriously at their VP201B. Like the model you cited,
it > > > > shows a response time of 16ms... > > > > > > > > > > The new issue of Maximum PC had a test of about a half dozen FlatLCD
Quoted text (11 lines)> > > monitors. only a couple passed their gaming criteria. You might want > to > > > check that magazine out first. > > > > > > dh > > > > > > > Can you be so kind as to list the ones they rated as acceptable? Any > > 20-inchers among them? > >
"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:53:04 GMT, "Steve Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >They liked the Samsung 172X (almost always a good choice), the PlanarPL1700 > >(both 17 inchers), and the Dell 2001FP (20 in.). I bought a Dell 1800FPon > >MPC's recomendation a year ago and it was just as good as they said itwas > >(and both a lot bigger than a 17 in. and a lot cheaper than a 20 in.).The > >only prob with Dell's LCDs is that you can't examine them in the store > >before you take them home. Trust me, if you get into a dead-pixelargument, > >you'll lose...unless the screen looks like Tommy Lee Jones in "Batman." > > I tried a new Dell 19" a couple of weeks back, and it certainly wasn't > up to gaming duties. > -- > Andrew. Which one did you try? I've got the 1800FP and have had no problems whatsoever playing games when its configured correctly. I do have some problems with games when framerates are low, but that isn't the lcd's problem.
I've never played N2003 but here's some good general info on LCD monitors and gaming: http://www.monitorsdirect.com/before/expert/jims_corner/munchies.shtml (Sorry if it or something similar has already been posted) I was ready to get a new Sony 19" LCD before I read this. I have a GDM-F400 and am now in no rush to go to an LCD. The Sony I was looking at has a response time of 25ms (15ms rise and 10ms decay). - F50 GT >Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with >N2003? Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, >Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution?
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:52:26 +0100, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:53:04 GMT, "Steve Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >They liked the Samsung 172X (almost always a good choice), the Planar PL1700 > >(both 17 inchers), and the Dell 2001FP (20 in.). I bought a Dell 1800FP on > >MPC's recomendation a year ago and it was just as good as they said it was > >(and both a lot bigger than a 17 in. and a lot cheaper than a 20 in.). The > >only prob with Dell's LCDs is that you can't examine them in the store > >before you take them home. Trust me, if you get into a dead-pixel argument, > >you'll lose...unless the screen looks like Tommy Lee Jones in "Batman."
I've got a Dell 2001FP 20" LCD screen on my desk at work, and was so impressed with it I splashed out and got one for home. Not one dead pixel between the 2 of them. > I tried a new Dell 19" a couple of weeks back, and it certainly wasn't > up to gaming duties. The 2001FP has a 16ms response time, and has a native resolution of 1600x1200. Gaming-wise it's flawless to my eyes, especially when coupled with a DVI compatible graphics card. A little on the expensive side, but it's the best bit of hardware I've bought for a long, long time. -- Cheers, Dave.
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:27:39 GMT, "Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote lazily without trimming his post:
Quoted text (7 lines)>> I tried a new Dell 19" a couple of weeks back, and it certainly wasn't >> up to gaming duties. > >Which one did you try? I've got the 1800FP and have had no problems >whatsoever playing games when its configured correctly. I do have some >problems with games when framerates are low, but that isn't the lcd's >problem.
I think it was called the 190FP or something. Nice for desktop use, but crap for gaming. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
I have a low end Dell 15" LCD monitor - think it is a FP15e or something like that. I race ALL THE TIME with N2003 and I think the monitor is fantastic. 1024x768 native resolution (which I use for all gaming - GTA-VC, Max Payne 2, Nascar Racing 2003 Season, you name it and it looks fantastic. The nice thing about 15" LCD screens is that they acutally measure 15" - so you are not losing much size over your typical 17" CRT - which measures 16" on a good day! If you get a 19" LCD you will have the same approximate viewing area as you would with a 20 or 21" CRT. Whatever you hear about difficulties with LCD monitors and gaming does not apply to the Dell unit that I have, and I was a skeptic before I got it. The only reason I got the LCD in the first place is that Dell was basically giving it away when I bought the PC last year. I had actually planned on selling the LCD display and keeping my 17" CRT - until I opened it and turned it on. I will never go back to a CRT display again. BTW - graphics card is TI4200 - I get about 50-60 fps average for N2003 with textures on extreme and most eye candy turned on. Turned off sun glare though, it was so blinding as to make online racing difficult - so I turned it off to try to gain a slight edge. Hasn't worked yet, though, only made 7-10 so far! Gil
Abso-effing-lutely! "Dave Weaver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:52:26 +0100, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:53:04 GMT, "Steve Smith" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >They liked the Samsung 172X (almost always a good choice), the PlanarPL1700 > > >(both 17 inchers), and the Dell 2001FP (20 in.). I bought a Dell1800FP on > > >MPC's recomendation a year ago and it was just as good as they said itwas > > >(and both a lot bigger than a 17 in. and a lot cheaper than a 20 in.).The > > >only prob with Dell's LCDs is that you can't examine them in the store > > >before you take them home. Trust me, if you get into a dead-pixelargument, > > >you'll lose...unless the screen looks like Tommy Lee Jones in "Batman." > > I've got a Dell 2001FP 20" LCD screen on my desk at work, and was soimpressed > with it I splashed out and got one for home. Not one dead pixel betweenthe 2
Quoted text (7 lines)> of them. > > > > I tried a new Dell 19" a couple of weeks back, and it certainly wasn't > > up to gaming duties. > > The 2001FP has a 16ms response time, and has a native resolution of
1600x1200. > Gaming-wise it's flawless to my eyes, especially when coupled with a DVI > compatible graphics card. A little on the expensive side, but it's thebest > bit of hardware I've bought for a long, long time. > > -- > Cheers, > Dave.
The writer has a point (even if he does work for a monitor vendor), but I, for one, will never buy another CRT again (not even for TV; I have switched over to DLP projectors, which work great with DVI input, BTW; you ain't seen nuthin' till you've flown a DC-3 over the Grand Canyon at 1240x768). Sony is no longer on the cutting edge of anything. Various internal struggles andoutside distractions have affected all their core businesses: TVs, monitors, consoles, movies, music...only their digital camera division is still strong, IMO. The hot brands in LCDs are Dell, Samsung (which badly wants to be Asia's new Sony), Viewsonic, and Planar. "F50 GT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HeIgc.30156$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> I've never played N2003 but here's some good general info on LCD > monitors and gaming: > > http://www.monitorsdirect.com/before/expert/jims_corner/munchies.shtml > > (Sorry if it or something similar has already been posted) > > I was ready to get a new Sony 19" LCD before I read this. I have a > GDM-F400 and am now in no rush to go to an LCD. The Sony I was looking > at has a response time of 25ms (15ms rise and 10ms decay). > > - F50 GT > > >Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with > >N2003? Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > >Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution?
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:26:12 GMT, "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >over to DLP projectors, which work great with DVI input, BTW; you ain't seen >nuthin' till you've flown a DC-3 over the Grand Canyon at 1240x768). I have flown over the real thing in a chopper, you can stuff your 1240x768 ;-) -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
I've ridden all the way down on a mule (terrifying!), so stuff yer helo! ;o) "Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:26:12 GMT, "Steve Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >over to DLP projectors, which work great with DVI input, BTW; you ain'tseen
Quoted text (9 lines)> >nuthin' till you've flown a DC-3 over the Grand Canyon at 1240x768). > > I have flown over the real thing in a chopper, you can stuff your > 1240x768 ;-) > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, > please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. > Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
"TDRacin�" <TDRacinnospamflashmail.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yes, N2k3 will go up to at least 1600x1200, maybe higher, not sure, but I > know it is at least that. > > Agreed, and I *think* NR2003 pulls its maximum rez and color depth offergins based on the DX feedback from your video card, where it reports all its supported rez and depths back to the sim and thus the sim only offers what your card has reported as being available/compatible. That's a SWAG, but I think it's close to being right.
Steve: I've seen some nice Dell and Viewsonic LCD models. I'll keep an eye on them and their respective response times. One day I will get one. - F50 GT Steve Smith wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> The writer has a point (even if he does work for a monitor vendor), but I, > for one, will never buy another CRT again (not even for TV; I have switched > over to DLP projectors, which work great with DVI input, BTW; you ain't seen > nuthin' till you've flown a DC-3 over the Grand Canyon at 1240x768). > > Sony is no longer on the cutting edge of anything. Various internal > struggles andoutside distractions have affected all their core businesses: > TVs, monitors, consoles, movies, music...only their digital camera division > is still strong, IMO. The hot brands in LCDs are Dell, Samsung (which badly > wants to be Asia's new Sony), Viewsonic, and Planar.
Mitch_A 20 Apr 2004 02:32 UTC↳ reply to F50 GT#39460
In case anyone is unaware Dell is giving away 15" and 17" LCD's with certain systems for another couple days. Mitch "F50 GT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3M_gc.30552$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Steve: > > I've seen some nice Dell and Viewsonic LCD models. I'll keep an eye on > them and their respective response times. One day I will get one. > > - F50 GT >
Yes, Dell often has "deals" for the LCDs, sometimes even w/o having to buy a 'puta. (Dell's LCDs are made by an obscure Asian maker not generally avail thru normal retail channels.) If you've bought from Dell before, call yer salesman and ask him to alert you for these special deals. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BY%gc.24377$[email hidden]... > In case anyone is unaware Dell is giving away 15" and 17" LCD's withcertain
Quoted text (16 lines)> systems for another couple days. > > Mitch > > > "F50 GT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3M_gc.30552$[email hidden]... > > Steve: > > > > I've seen some nice Dell and Viewsonic LCD models. I'll keep an eye on > > them and their respective response times. One day I will get one. > > > > - F50 GT > > > >
Max resolution is whatever your monitor will support, not 1024x768. And Steve Smith is correct: LCD monitors are only acceptable at their native resolution. If you are like me and want to do racing sims at a higher resolution than your "normal" desktop, then forget LCD. Marc "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JIkgc.11936$[email hidden]... > Can anyone out there suggest any 17" models which work well with N2003? > Since N2003 max resolution is 1024x768, > Would this be a problem with the LCD's higher native resolution? > TIA. > >
"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:i%jhc.13886$[email hidden]... > Max resolution is whatever your monitor will support, not 1024x768. And > Steve Smith is correct: LCD monitors are only acceptable at their native > resolution. If you are like me and want to do racing sims at a higher > resolution than your "normal" desktop, then forget LCD. >I don't have any problem with raising the resolution higher for sims. Somehow my current nvidia drivers don't list anything higher than 1024x768 in graphics properties. I'm sure my GF4 Ti4400 could easily handle higher res. than that.
Andrew 21 Apr 2004 05:49 UTC↳ reply to gordo#39409
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 02:58:53 GMT, "gordo" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I'm sure my GF4 Ti4400 could easily handle higher res. than that. Not if you want a decent framerate. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
gordo wrote: > > I don't have any problem with raising the resolution higher for sims. > Somehow my current nvidia drivers don't list anything higher than 1024x768 in graphics properties. > I'm sure my GF4 Ti4400 could easily handle higher res. than that. Sounds like you may have a *monitor* driver installed that tells Windows that your max resolution is 1024x768 ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
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Quoted text (12 lines)> > > gordo wrote: > > > > I don't have any problem with raising the resolution higher for sims. > > Somehow my current nvidia drivers don't list anything higher than 1024x768 in graphics properties. > > I'm sure my GF4 Ti4400 could easily handle higher res. than that. > > Sounds like you may have a *monitor* driver installed that tells Windows > that your max resolution is 1024x768 ? > >
Yes, very likely. I am currently using a tired old NEC XV-17 crt.

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