GP2 add on tracks help needed

Hey GP2 Experts.... In the past I have downloaded ( from STS and Pieter) GP2 tracks....but never could figure oot how to install them. One of the tracks extracted as a .DAT file ( it appears that GP2 doesn't use dat files ) and one track read-me file said to install in the GP2\circuits directory which I do not have ! How do GP2 tracks work ? Can someone give me a lesson in GP2 Tracks 101? Is the Indy track good ? As always, Tim

Tim, heres todays lesson :) 1. GP2 stores the circuit data as files called F1CT01.DAT - Interlagos, F1CT02.DAT - Aida etc.. These files are usually only stored on the CDROM and are not copied during a full install. They are in the GP2/CIRCUITS directory on the CD. 2. To use tracks you will need to get a patch that modifies GP2.EXE so it will read the tracks from the local HD instead of the CD. This is usually the GP2NOCD.EXE program. 3. Now you need to make the CIRCUITS directory off your main GP2 directory and copy all the DAT files from the CD. Its worth noting that there is a 200mb file called TRACKDAT.BIN that is in the same directory. Its a bogus file and is not used, so dont copy it, just copy the *.DAT files. 4. Once you have done this you are pretty much set.. Now all you have to do is install the new track by copying it into your newly created circuit directory and deleting the circuit you wish to replace (you can copy it back from the CD) and renaming the new track to the correct filename eg. F1CT01.DAT to replace interlagos. 5. Some more things worth noting. You can't add tracks you can only replace existing ones. When inside the game the circuit names and circuit pictures will still be the same as the defaults. There is a utility that can be used to change the circuit name and some other useful things like fuel consumption. Oh yeh you will need to make sure you have done a large install so that all the track objects etc are on the local HD. So if you only have done a small or medium install, you need to reinstall GP2. I hope this was clear enough for you. Regards, David

You don't need to do the above. You have to do a full install anyway and when you do the CIRCUITS directory with the dat files will already be there. Don't you think it would be simpler to just rename the old file to xxxxxx.old? Instead of deleting it and having to re-copy it from the cd rom? -- Nos http://www.cris.com/~nosfer/index.html

Im afraid you are wrong here. A full installation routine will not create a directory called circuits, nor will the installation routine copy any tracks to HD, which ever install you choose. Not really, no.... /Robert Kimber

On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:43:39 +0100, "Robert Kimber" >Im afraid you are wrong here. A full installation routine will not create a >directory called circuits, nor will the installation routine copy any tracks >to HD, which ever install you choose. Then perhaps you can tell me why the circuits directory and tracks dat files are on my HD. I never copied them over. The only reason I can think that they are there without me copying them is because the utility I used to make the game not read from the HD does it for you. Which makes it better than the one you suggested using. It's simply called nocdrom.zip. You're one of those people who can't admit your wrong obviously. -- Nos http://www.cris.com/~nosfer/index.html

On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:43:39 +0100, "Robert Kimber" >Not really, no.... >/Robert Kimber I just realized you're not the person I was originally replying to. Your just another big head. -- Nos http://www.cris.com/~nosfer/index.html

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>>3. Now you need to make the CIRCUITS directory off your main GP2 directory and >>copy all the DAT files from the CD. Its worth noting that there is a 200mb file >>called TRACKDAT.BIN that is in the same directory. Its a bogus file and is not >>used, so dont copy it, just copy the *.DAT files. >You don't need to do the above. You have to do a full install anyway >and when you do the CIRCUITS directory with the dat files will already >be there.

Can you now admit that you were wrong and that you don't know what you are talking about? All you've done is to help to confuse Tim. Yes it would.. but who cares. Tim is probably clever enough to realise that he could indeed do just that if he so desired. Regards, David

On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:43:39 +0100, "Robert Kimber" >Im afraid you are wrong here. A full installation routine will not create a >directory called circuits, nor will the installation routine copy any tracks >to HD, which ever install you choose. You're correct I did another full install and the circuits directory was not there. The nocdrom patch I have copies them over for you from the cd. It will also set the game back to the cd version by use of running a batch file. The patch I have is obviously a different, and better, version than the one you guys have been using. And please do tell, why not? It's a no win situation for you so let's see what grandiose reason you can come up with. -- Nos http://www.cris.com/~nosfer/index.html

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>On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:43:39 +0100, "Robert Kimber" >>Im afraid you are wrong here. A full installation routine will not create a >>directory called circuits, nor will the installation routine copy any tracks >>to HD, which ever install you choose. >Then perhaps you can tell me why the circuits directory and tracks dat >files are on my HD. I never copied them over. The only reason I can >think that they are there without me copying them is because the >utility I used to make the game not read from the HD does it for you. >Which makes it better than the one you suggested using. It's simply >called nocdrom.zip.

It could be that you had installed either the Perfect Track Pack addon or its demo. As far as I'm aware the nocdrom.zip only contains a gp2.exe and setup.exe and doesn't automatically copy the tracks for you. The other explanation is that you are using the warez version. Well you're wrong on two counts now. Regards, David

You obviously haven't read the next post I made after that one. There is a patch to make GP2 run from the HD that actually copies the circuits directory over for you. That's why I thought they were already there. You lot have been using some inferior type of patch that requires you to do it manually. It's was an easy mistake to make on my part. But, that doesn't explain your ***retentive attitude. Don't regards me you piece of asswipe. Some of you people on this group are the MOST snobbish bunch I've ever come across on the net. Take the ***plug out of yer ass and learn to be more human instead of the stuck up sub dweeblet you are. -- Nos [link lost in import: /~nosfer/index.html]

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>On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:43:39 +0100, "Robert Kimber" >>Im afraid you are wrong here. A full installation routine will not create a >>directory called circuits, nor will the installation routine copy any tracks >>to HD, which ever install you choose. >Then perhaps you can tell me why the circuits directory and tracks dat >files are on my HD. I never copied them over. The only reason I can >think that they are there without me copying them is because the >utility I used to make the game not read from the HD does it for you. >Which makes it better than the one you suggested using. It's simply >called nocdrom.zip.

Well, I just posted a message accusing you of being wrong when infact you are right. I had said that the Perfect Track pack was how you got the track files. I just downloaded the nocdrom.zip and it does indeed have all the trackfiles included that would have been installed. I was indeed wrong. Please accept my apologies. It was your initial assertion that the games installation would copy the track files and your nitpicking about renaming trackfiles that had me wound up. All I was trying to do was help Tim the best I could. So I'm sorry I got angry with you and accused you of being wrong when it was I who was wrong about the nocdrom.zip Regards, David

The version I have of nocdrom.zip contains the following files; readme.txt, arj.exe, nocdrom.arj, nocdrom.bat, and yescdrom.bat. Go that? And no I'm not using a warez version Mr. ***ing-know-it-all. And you're an ignoramus, but I digress. -- Nos [link lost in import: /~nosfer/index.html]

I wasn't nitpicking. I was simply stating what to me seemed a simpler method. The net doesn't allow for proper expression so let's just put it down to that. Ignore my flames if you will. I can get harsh at times. Sorry. -- Nos http://www.cris.com/~nosfer/index.html

Hohoho....we were both right so there. When you apply the patch it copies the circuits for you. No need to manually do it....hohoho. -- Nos http://www.cris.com/~nosfer/index.html

>>Yes it would.. but who cares. Tim is probably clever enough to realise that he >>could indeed do just that if he so desired. >Don't regards me you piece of asswipe. Some of you people on this >group are the MOST snobbish bunch I've ever come across on the net. >Take the ***plug out of yer ass and learn to be more human instead >of the stuck up sub dweeblet you are. Well... if you are not happy, you can go away. I'm sure some people would not cry about that. Well I should too but I am a Simracer *** and a snobbish ego-centric one also. You just can't understand that the whole world is make of people disagreeing with others. IMHO (probably not yours, it's normal). * Fran?ois Mnard * With great respect, * May the downforce be with you, * Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) * <ymenard> on NROS, sponsored by * [link lost in import] * SimRacing director, AWPSS * Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. * Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) * Excuse me for my provocative posts and reply's <g> begin 666 ymenard.vcf M0D5'24XZ5D-!4D0-"DXZ3>EN87)D.T9R86[G;VES.TXN#0I&3CIY;65N87)D M3#M#14Q,.U9/24-%.DXO00T*5$5,.TA/344[1D%8.DXO00T*0412.TA/344Z M.SLQ,30V.2!/=FED92U#;&5R;6]N=#M-;VYT<F5A;"U.;W)D.U%U96)E8SM( M3E1!0DQ%.C$Q-#8Y($]V:61E+4-L97)M;VYT/3!$/3!!36]N=')E86PM3F]R M+F%W<'-S+F-O;2\-"E523#IH='1P.B\O=W=W+F%W<'-S+F-O;2\-"D5-04E, M.U!2148[24Y415).150Z>6UE;F%R9$!A=W!S<RYC;VT-"D5.1#I60T%21 T* ` end

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> >It could be that you had installed either the Perfect Track Pack addon > >or its demo. As far as I'm aware the nocdrom.zip only contains a > >gp2.exe and setup.exe and doesn't automatically copy the tracks for you. > The version I have of nocdrom.zip contains the following files; > readme.txt, arj.exe, nocdrom.arj, nocdrom.bat, and yescdrom.bat. > Go that? And no I'm not using a warez version Mr. > ***ing-know-it-all.

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe. This from the man who joined the thread with this ; **************************************************************************************** You don't need to do the above. You have to do a full install anyway and when you do the CIRCUITS directory with the dat files will already be there. Don't you think it would be simpler to just rename the old file to xxxxxx.old? Instead of deleting it and having to re-copy it from the cd rom? -- Nos *****************************************************************************************

Depending on which version of GP2NOCD you use... the large file with over a meg does all that for you, but if you use the small one with only a couple of KB you will have to create a directory manually. Regards /Robert Kimber

On Sun, 1 Feb 1998 00:48:02 +0100, "Robert Kimber"

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>Depending on which version of GP2NOCD you use... the large file with over a >meg does all that for you, but if you use the small one with only a couple >of KB you will have to create a directory manually. >Regards >/Robert Kimber

Damn confusing. Ain't it? :-) -- Nos http://www.cris.com/~nosfer/index.html

My thanks to the experts who helped me with GP2 Tracks 101! I downloaded and installed the nocdrom.zip ...and it created the circuits directory and I immediately set up the "oval" and "Indy" tracks....but the are right handed (Clockwise) Ovals! In USA, we race ovals counterclockwise! Are there any counterclockwise ovals out there ? Where and what is the utility that changes the screenshot/map so when I install Indy it changes the name and screenshot ? Thanks again ! Tim

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>>>Yes it would.. but who cares. Tim is probably clever enough to realise >that he >>>could indeed do just that if he so desired. >>Don't regards me you piece of asswipe. Some of you people on this >>group are the MOST snobbish bunch I've ever come across on the net. >>Take the ***plug out of yer ass and learn to be more human instead >>of the stuck up sub dweeblet you are. >Well... if you are not happy, you can go away. I'm sure some people would >not cry about that. Well I should too but I am a Simracer *** and a >snobbish ego-centric one also. You just can't understand that the whole >world is make of people disagreeing with others. IMHO (probably not yours, >it's normal). >* Fran?ois Mnard >* With great respect, >* May the downforce be with you, >* Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) >* <ymenard> on NROS, sponsored by >* [link lost in import] >* SimRacing director, AWPSS >* Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >* Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) >* Excuse me for my provocative posts and reply's <g>

I know english is probably not your first language so I will be more forgiving than usual. But, try to make some sense next time you post. -- Nos [link lost in import: /~nosfer/index.html]