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N2 3dfx Patch

33 posts by 16 people · 27 Nov 1997 - 10 Dec 1997

Is a 3Dfx patch for NASCAR 2 really coming?

Users asked whether a 3Dfx Glide patch for NASCAR 2 was real. Posters cited 3Dfx staff saying they were developing it, aiming for Christmas, using Papyrus's code. John Wallace insisted nothing was official until Papyrus confirmed it, leading to bickering over who could announce it.

rumour/speculationhardware: PC/graphicsNASCAR Racing 2

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Is this for real or what?I need to know something official.Where do i look ? Pat. I hope this isn't just spreading a rumour.
Joe McGinn 27 Nov 1997#384464
>Is this for real or what?I need to know something official.Where do i look ? >Pat. >I hope this isn't just spreading a rumour. It is for real, 3dfx have publically stated they are working on it. They are hoping it will be done by Xmas. Joe
kingk.. 27 Nov 1997#384465
yes, this is very much for real. there are posts up from the guys at 3dfx. it is using GLIDE not D3D, so it is going to be great im sure!!! postings at 3dfx.game.upcoming or 3dfx.game.requests ss
esoter 28 Nov 1997#384606
>yes, this is very much for real. there are posts up from the guys at >3dfx. >it is using GLIDE not D3D, so it is going to be great im sure!!! >postings at 3dfx.game.upcoming or 3dfx.game.requests If this 3DFX patch is using GLIDE, that means it will be both DOS & Win95 capable. If so, the smart direction for 3DFX programmers to take since the game is both a DOS/Win95 game. I prefer to play N2 in DOS. It's much faster on my P200MMX
Steve 28 Nov 1997#384607
i have a p200 (classic) with a 4mb millenium and yes, dos is much faster. GLIDE is going to be great!!! (even if it just smooths out the graphics and better distance view, ill be happy either way!!) ss
Quoted text (10 lines)> >yes, this is very much for real. there are posts up from the guys at > >3dfx. > >it is using GLIDE not D3D, so it is going to be great im sure!!! > >postings at 3dfx.game.upcoming or 3dfx.game.requests > If this 3DFX patch is using GLIDE, that means it will be both DOS & > Win95 capable. If so, the smart direction for 3DFX programmers to take > since the game is both a DOS/Win95 game. > I prefer to play N2 in DOS. It's much faster on my P200MMX
On Thu, 27 Nov 1997 22:57:46 +0100, "Patrick Lowyck" >Is this for real or what?I need to know something official.Where do i look ? >Pat. >I hope this isn't just spreading a rumour. So far _nothing_ is official. Cheers! John
Steve 29 Nov 1997#384752
what do you mean nothing is official. 3dfx has said them selves that it will be out around christmas. sounds pretty official to me. ss
Quoted text (11 lines)> On Thu, 27 Nov 1997 22:57:46 +0100, "Patrick Lowyck" > >Is this for real or what?I need to know something official.Where do i look ? > >Pat. > >I hope this isn't just spreading a rumour. > So far _nothing_ is official. > Cheers! > John
And 3dFX own _what_ part of NASCAR2? Nothing at all. I very much doubt that 3dFX can make any decision on a 3dFX patch, so until you hear from Papyrus themselves what will happen about a 3dFX patch, what features it will have, what products it will support (NROS etc) then I wouldn't be getting too worked up. Like I said, it ain't official. Cheers! John
Steve 01 Dec 1997#385070
you sure are opionionated (if thats how you spell it) arent you :) ss btw: 3dfx said they have the go ahead from papy.
Coco 01 Dec 1997#385071
Maybe Mr. Eric Busch could find out for us, since he has friend working at Papyrus. Bye Coco
Quoted text (13 lines)> >what do you mean nothing is official. 3dfx has said them selves that it will be > >out around christmas. sounds pretty official to me. > And 3dFX own _what_ part of NASCAR2? Nothing at all. I very much doubt > that 3dFX can make any decision on a 3dFX patch, so until you hear > from Papyrus themselves what will happen about a 3dFX patch, what > features it will have, what products it will support (NROS etc) then I > wouldn't be getting too worked up. > Like I said, it ain't official. > Cheers! > John
Actually I am quite opinionated, but this is not an opinion, it's a fact. The last I heard there was NO go ahead given from Papyrus to 3dFX, which was about three days ago. Unless you know it has changed since then, it looks like we're both opinionated. I can't imagine that Papyrus would decide not to release the 3dFX version, but be aware it's not certain yet. Keep sending Papyrus and 3dFX your Christmas wish lists and ask them both nicely for 3dFX NASCAR2. Cheers! John
Well, even if they didn't get the go-ahead, they are doing it, and they said it will be here by Christmas, so even if the don't have Papy's permissions, it's being worked on. -- <<Phoenix>> >>you sure are opionionated (if thats how you spell it) arent you :) >>btw: 3dfx said they have the go ahead from papy. >Actually I am quite opinionated, but this is not an opinion, it's a >fact. The last I heard there was NO go ahead given from Papyrus to >3dFX, which was about three days ago. Unless you know it has changed >since then, it looks like we're both opinionated. >I can't imagine that Papyrus would decide not to release the 3dFX >version, but be aware it's not certain yet. Keep sending Papyrus and >3dFX your Christmas wish lists and ask them both nicely for 3dFX >NASCAR2. >Cheers! >John
Steve 01 Dec 1997#385074
Well, even if they didn't get the go-ahead, they are doing it, and they said it will be here by Christmas, so even if the don't have Papy's permissions, it's being worked on. -- <<Phoenix>> you know it!!!
Joe McGinn 01 Dec 1997#385075
>Actually I am quite opinionated, For thre record, so am I - just in case someone hadn't noiced yet. ;-) I can't imagine that either - I can only just barely imagine the size of the s#&$-storm coming down if 3dfx finishes the patch and Papyrus chooses not to release it. Joe
> >Actually I am quite opinionated, > For thre record, so am I - just in case someone hadn't noiced yet. ;-) There's a difference between opinionated and ignorant ;-) -- Dave Otterness
> >There's a difference between opinionated and ignorant > Thank you for being so kind as to demonstrate the latter for us. > Joe Man WHERE do you come UP with your cracks? They're so original. -- Dave Otterness
-- >>There's a difference between opinionated and ignorant >Thank you for being so kind as to demonstrate the latter for us. >Joe Nice return volley. I like a spirited debate. See ya John I'll get you my little pretty, and your little dog too...
OAM 02 Dec 1997#385225
Obviously you dont read this newsgroup, or you are new. There has been official conformation that a 3dfx patch IS COMING for n2 > >what do you mean nothing is official. 3dfx has said them selves that it will be
Quoted text (12 lines)> >out around christmas. sounds pretty official to me. > And 3dFX own _what_ part of NASCAR2? Nothing at all. I very much doubt > that 3dFX can make any decision on a 3dFX patch, so until you hear > from Papyrus themselves what will happen about a 3dFX patch, what > features it will have, what products it will support (NROS etc) then I > wouldn't be getting too worked up. > Like I said, it ain't official. > Cheers! > John
STev 02 Dec 1997#385226
Obviously you dont read this newsgroup, or you are new. There has been official conformation that a 3dfx patch IS COMING for n2 thank's OAM for clearing this up for some of us :) ss
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:05:44 -0500, "Robin Sequira" >Well, even if they didn't get the go-ahead, they are doing it, and they said >it will be here by Christmas, so even if the don't have Papy's permissions, >it's being worked on. There's no doubt it's being worked upon, that much is beyond question. Cheers! John
>For thre record, so am I - just in case someone hadn't noiced yet. ;-) Seriously now, what fun would discussions be if people weren't opinionated? I think I'd stay over on CompuServe for a few weeks. I reckon folks would get a bit tetchy around here </understatement>. Cheers! John
>Thank you for being so kind as to demonstrate the latter for us. Ouch! Love-15. <s***> I love a snappy rejoinder :-) Cheers! John
If you believe the latter then you must yourself be the former. No, there really hasn't. 3dFX do not own NASCAR2, and hence they cannot "officially confirm" anything other than that they are working on it - they have no influence in the decision of when/if to release it. Hence the reason that everyone should politely ask Papyrus to put this at the top of our Christmas wish list. Cheers! John PS - POLITE : a. having refined manners, courteous; cultivated, cultured; refined, elegant.
ROFL! Someone obviously in "opening mouth and placing foot deep inside" mode.... John may be splitting hairs here but he is 100% correct in what he has been saying. Cheers, Richard
Joe McGinn 02 Dec 1997#385232
>Seriously now, what fun would discussions be if people weren't >opinionated? I agree, it is usually through disagreements and spirited debate that anything with some resemblence to truth is revealed. Joe
STev 02 Dec 1997#385233
I think I'd stay over on CompuServe for a few weeks. I reckon folks would get a bit tetchy around here </understatement>. just a bit of an understantment thats for sure. this place would be so crowded with people YELLING it would be scary. as for opinionated, it great to have your own opinion, but everyone must still have an open mind to have any sort of discussion, or else it would be an arguement :) Steve
STev 02 Dec 1997#385234
what OAM said here should say something more like; "there has been official confermation that a 3dfx patch IS BEING MADE for n2" i have sent my polite christmas list to papy, has every one else? Steve
Brian Bushe 03 Dec 1997#385380
says... >>Obviously you dont read this newsgroup, or you are new. >If you believe the latter then you must yourself be the former. Who is this? John who? never heard of him! Are we to pick which words apply to you mate :-) BTW thanks mainly to your positive comments on f1rs i went with it and it's a winner. brian
Sniff, forgotten me already... We met last year. Since you've met me I'd assume you would be more qualified than most to do so :) Glad you like it. If you and Stuart are up for some more racing there may be another "network racing weekend" organised sometime soon near London. Probably racing F1RS, NASCAR2, maybe TOCA that sort of thing. Let me know if you're up for it. Cheers! John
Mark Fisher 05 Dec 1997#385724
Hi John, Give me a shout too, maybe I'll be off work that weekend ;-) Cheers Mark
Quoted text (7 lines)>Glad you like it. If you and Stuart are up for some more racing there >may be another "network racing weekend" organised sometime soon near >London. Probably racing F1RS, NASCAR2, maybe TOCA that sort of thing. >Let me know if you're up for it. >Cheers! >John
Brian Bushe 08 Dec 1997#386170
says... Stuart and I were just discussing the exact same thing! Damn, I'll have to practise. Brian
On Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:04:31 -0000, "Mark Fisher" >Give me a shout too, maybe I'll be off work that weekend ;-) Well, we're limited only by the number of network connections and the number of players supported by the games (N2, SODA, TOCA, F1RS). Coincidentally this is eight. Myself and Mike Laskey were originally thinking of doing some one-on-one racing, then thought of Stuart and Brian to get the "famous four" together again from last year's SRN wheel test. You would make five, so anyone else that might be interested in a little networked racing in the London/SE England area, drop me an e-mail. The standard will be pretty high I'd guess, since Mike is rather rapid. Nothing is finalised so far, just a tentative thought for sometime in January. Oh, anyone interested should bear in mind that they'll be forced to play some deathmatch Quake as well. I simply cannot be in the same room as a LAN and not do some deathmatching :) Cheers! John a.k.a. "Senna_McNailz", U.K. Clan League

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