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i have had Gp2 since it came out but had quit playing it until i upgraded my computer, i bought the Sony 200mmx with 32meg ram, it is really amazing now i can turn all the detail on and before with all the details on, on my p150 when i pressed "o" it would stay around 200 now it only goes to 100 at Monaco in the middle of the city for just a few seconds, i do have the Reactor from Intergraph the game is 100% better and now smooth a silk, is it just my computer and Reactor card that giving me such great performance,or what is everybody else complaining about,just my 2 cents

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> On Tue, 27 May 1997 12:33:04 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR > >i have had Gp2 since it came out but had quit playing it until i > >upgraded my computer, i bought the Sony 200mmx with 32meg ram, it is > >really amazing now i can turn all the detail on and before with all > >the details on, on my p150 when i pressed "o" it would stay around > >200 now it only goes to 100 at Monaco in the middle of the city for > >just a few seconds, i do have the Reactor from Intergraph the game is > >100% better and now smooth a silk, is it just my computer and Reactor > >card that giving me such great performance,or what is everybody else > >complaining about,just my 2 cents > I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at > Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am > sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar!

sorry you feel that way , i don't know why the great performace either, but its the truth,i really could care less if anyone believes me or not just the way it is

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> On Tue, 27 May 1997 12:33:04 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR > >i have had Gp2 since it came out but had quit playing it until i > >upgraded my computer, i bought the Sony 200mmx with 32meg ram, it is > >really amazing now i can turn all the detail on and before with all > >the details on, on my p150 when i pressed "o" it would stay around > >200 now it only goes to 100 at Monaco in the middle of the city for > >just a few seconds, i do have the Reactor from Intergraph the game is > >100% better and now smooth a silk, is it just my computer and Reactor > >card that giving me such great performance,or what is everybody else > >complaining about,just my 2 cents > I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at > Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am > sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar!

if you can tell me how to take a screen shot i be glad too and post it here

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>i have had Gp2 since it came out but had quit playing it until i >upgraded my computer, i bought the Sony 200mmx with 32meg ram, it is >really amazing now i can turn all the detail on and before with all >the details on, on my p150 when i pressed "o" it would stay around >200 now it only goes to 100 at Monaco in the middle of the city for >just a few seconds, i do have the Reactor from Intergraph the game is >100% better and now smooth a silk, is it just my computer and Reactor >card that giving me such great performance,or what is everybody else >complaining about,just my 2 cents

I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar!

: I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at : Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am : sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar! Does VGA count? -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

How the heck would you know michael maybe he's telling the truth. Some of these computers are mighty fast. I have a 200mmx 32megs sierra screamin 3D card and i run Nascer2 with everything on and it's silky smooth. Oh i'm sorry i shouldn't be talking about my fast computer because you could crying with envy right now . Your P5 90 mhz just don't cut it eh? Please don't call anyone a lier until you know the facts cause well YOU DON"T!!!!!!!!!!!

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> How the heck would you know michael maybe he's telling the truth. Some of > these computers are mighty fast. I have a 200mmx 32megs sierra screamin 3D > card and i run Nascer2 with everything on and it's silky smooth. Oh i'm > sorry i shouldn't be talking about my fast computer because you could > crying with envy right now . Your P5 90 mhz just don't cut it eh? Please > don't call anyone a lier until you know the facts cause well YOU > DON"T!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you , i mean what reason do i have to lie, and yes it is in svga thank you i tried it again last night to be sure and it hit 116 just for a second in the middle of monaco the rest of the time around 89, tell me how to take a screen shot of it and i'll prove it or is there a way to save a replay of it mj mj

On Tue, 27 May 1997 20:06:45 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR >if you can tell me how to take a screen shot i be glad too and post it >here Better and easier yet, just run Cbench(SVGA) and tell me what you get. Under Win95 I get a score of 76.1 at 45.6 fps. If you don't have it, you can get it at www.sysopt.com/cbench.html.

I have a p200 oc'd to 208 w/83Mhz bus speed. There is no way a p200 can outrun it. Besides, we are talking GP2! A p90 with 3d card can run N2 smooth!

He is using VGA and not SVGA, that might be possible. I have a Pentium II 266 with Matrox Mill and I can only dream of OR of 100% at Monaco. It is much better now, but 100%, yeah right !!! GP2 is waiting for the P8 at 500Mhz, and it will run at 100% at Monaco. Imagine the "newness" of the game in the year 2001. Have a great day and happy racing. Oliver

And we all know F1GP2 is optimized for MMX processors and 3D cards, right? I'm sorry, but I'm sceptical. -TPP

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> >How the heck would you know michael maybe he's telling the truth. Some of > >these computers are mighty fast. I have a 200mmx 32megs sierra screamin 3D > >card and i run Nascer2 with everything on and it's silky smooth. > And we all know F1GP2 is optimized for MMX processors and 3D cards, right? > I'm sorry, but I'm sceptical. > -TPPi'm sorry to cause such a stir, but it is the truth, i say again i am

running in svga with everything front and back on and 116 is the highest is goes in the middle of Monaco the rest it around 89, i can't explain it just the way it is, like i said i'll be glad to prove it if someone could tell me how to save the replay or screen shot

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> > On Tue, 27 May 1997 12:33:04 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR > > >i have had Gp2 since it came out but had quit playing it until i > > >upgraded my computer, i bought the Sony 200mmx with 32meg ram, it is > > >really amazing now i can turn all the detail on and before with all > > >the details on, on my p150 when i pressed "o" it would stay around > > >200 now it only goes to 100 at Monaco in the middle of the city for > > >just a few seconds, i do have the Reactor from Intergraph the game is > > >100% better and now smooth a silk, is it just my computer and Reactor > > >card that giving me such great performance,or what is everybody else > > >complaining about,just my 2 cents > > I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at > > Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am > > sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar! > sorry you feel that way , i don't know why the great performace either, > but its the truth,i really could care less if anyone believes me or not > just the way it is

Ok.....switch VGA off and try it in SVGA, you are in for a real treat, evan if your FR and O suffer. Wake up and stop dreamin. Jammer (UK)

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> > > On Tue, 27 May 1997 12:33:04 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR > > > >i have had Gp2 since it came out but had quit playing it until i > > > >upgraded my computer, i bought the Sony 200mmx with 32meg ram, it is > > > >really amazing now i can turn all the detail on and before with all > > > >the details on, on my p150 when i pressed "o" it would stay around > > > >200 now it only goes to 100 at Monaco in the middle of the city for > > > >just a few seconds, i do have the Reactor from Intergraph the game is > > > >100% better and now smooth a silk, is it just my computer and Reactor > > > >card that giving me such great performance,or what is everybody else > > > >complaining about,just my 2 cents > > > I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at > > > Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am > > > sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar! > > sorry you feel that way , i don't know why the great performace either, > > but its the truth,i really could care less if anyone believes me or not > > just the way it is > Ok.....switch VGA off and try it in SVGA, you are in for a real treat, > evan if your FR and O suffer. Wake up and stop dreamin. > Jammer (UK)

well i am not in vga as i have said in the past ,i have had it since it came out and do pc support for a living, sorry i am getting such great perforance out of my system like i said before i really could care less who believes me but it just the way it is, i have seen only one post in support of me, the rest of you just want to dog me so all i have to say is kiss my ass, but i am running in svga with all details on front and back and only 115% in the middle of the city and 89% the rest of the way around

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> > > > On Tue, 27 May 1997 12:33:04 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR > > > > >i have had Gp2 since it came out but had quit playing it until i > > > > >upgraded my computer, i bought the Sony 200mmx with 32meg ram, it is > > > > >really amazing now i can turn all the detail on and before with all > > > > >the details on, on my p150 when i pressed "o" it would stay around > > > > >200 now it only goes to 100 at Monaco in the middle of the city for > > > > >just a few seconds, i do have the Reactor from Intergraph the game is > > > > >100% better and now smooth a silk, is it just my computer and Reactor > > > > >card that giving me such great performance,or what is everybody else > > > > >complaining about,just my 2 cents > > > > I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at > > > > Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am > > > > sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar! > > > sorry you feel that way , i don't know why the great performace either, > > > but its the truth,i really could care less if anyone believes me or not > > > just the way it is > > Ok.....switch VGA off and try it in SVGA, you are in for a real treat, > > evan if your FR and O suffer. Wake up and stop dreamin. > > Jammer (UK) > well i am not in vga as i have said in the past ,i have had it since it > came out and do pc support for a living, sorry i am getting such great > perforance out of my system like i said before i really could care less > who believes me but it just the way it is, i have seen only one post in > support of me, the rest of you just want to dog me so all i have to say > is kiss my ass, but i am running in svga with all details on front and > back and only 115% in the middle of the city and 89% the rest of the way > around

I guess if you have the frame rate set to the min it could be true,other than that,it's not a question of whether we think your a liar,we know you are. MR>V

On Tue, 27 May 1997 20:06:05 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR Snipped...) How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the million bucks....:-) Shane Lansky Hobart,Tasmania Australia

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> On Tue, 27 May 1997 20:06:05 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR > Snipped...) > >> I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at > >> Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am > >> sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar! > >sorry you feel that way , i don't know why the great performace either, > >but its the truth,i really could care less if anyone believes me or not > >just the way it is > How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take > this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine > out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg > ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at > Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the > million bucks....:-) > Shane Lansky > Hobart,Tasmania > Australia

THANK YOU! MJ

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>i have had Gp2 since it came out but had quit playing it until i >upgraded my computer, i bought the Sony 200mmx with 32meg ram, it is >really amazing now i can turn all the detail on and before with all >the details on, on my p150 when i pressed "o" it would stay around >200 now it only goes to 100 at Monaco in the middle of the city for >just a few seconds, i do have the Reactor from Intergraph the game is >100% better and now smooth a silk, is it just my computer and Reactor >card that giving me such great performance,or what is everybody else >complaining about,just my 2 cents

Congratulations! BTW - a benchmark that I use when messing about with overclocking is to go to Monaco with SVGA, all details, 25.6fps & see what the steady state PO is whilst sitting at the back of the grid. Any chance that you could post this figure? Cheers, Richard

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>How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take >this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine >out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg >ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at >Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the >million bucks....:-) >Shane Lansky >Hobart,Tasmania >Australia

You bring your Aborigine little ass over here and I'll shove that *** somewhere. :-) If GP2 loves CPU power(I agree), then tell me why an overclocked p200/83 can't come close to his estimates. I mailed him and asked him for some Cbench numbers, and I'll he can say is 'believe it or not'. And please don't call me a pee nut :-)

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>On Tue, 27 May 1997 20:06:05 -0500, MORRIS JONES JR >Snipped...) >>> I will give you a million dollars to see your computer say 100% at >>> Monaco in the middle of the city with "ALL" the details on. I am >>> sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but you are a liar! >>sorry you feel that way , i don't know why the great performace either, >>but its the truth,i really could care less if anyone believes me or not >>just the way it is >How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take >this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine >out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg >ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at >Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the >million bucks....:-)

Next time try it with some other cars eg. a race and at 25.6fps

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> >How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take > >this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine > >out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg > >ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at > >Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the > >million bucks....:-) > >Shane Lansky > >Hobart,Tasmania > >Australia > You bring your Aborigine little ass over here and I'll shove that > *** somewhere. :-) If GP2 loves CPU power(I agree), then tell me > why an overclocked p200/83 can't come close to his estimates. I > mailed him and asked him for some Cbench numbers, and I'll he can say > is 'believe it or not'. And please don't call me a pee nut :-)

Well, it's not surprising even if your system performance doesn't come close to his since the CPU speed doesn't mean a lot if other components in your system fall short. There's big differences between those well-made, well-tweaked PCs and those less optimized PCs.

Now it comes: how many fps did you select? I guess 15-16 or something. THAT could be possible. Personally, I'd like to hear your PO with 21fps selected. Check it out! JoH =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= When everything else failed, we can still become im- mortal by making an enormous blunder.... John Kenneth Galbraith =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>How the heck would you know michael maybe he's telling the truth. Some of >these computers are mighty fast. I have a 200mmx 32megs sierra screamin 3D >card and i run Nascer2 with everything on and it's silky smooth. Oh i'm >sorry i shouldn't be talking about my fast computer because you could >crying with envy right now . Your P5 90 mhz just don't cut it eh? Please >don't call anyone a lier until you know the facts cause well YOU >DON"T!!!!!!!!!!! Well we all do no the facts. I have a P200 and GP2 still sucks graphic wise I even still play monaco in vga to get a decent frame rate with all on FORZA FERRARI

Use the pcxdump.zip program that is available to take screen shots in gp2? (Freely available on all gp2 web sites). d:~)) **Peter**

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>> You bring your Aborigine little ass over here and I'll shove that >> *** somewhere. :-) If GP2 loves CPU power(I agree), then tell me >> why an overclocked p200/83 can't come close to his estimates. I >> mailed him and asked him for some Cbench numbers, and I'll he can say >> is 'believe it or not'. And please don't call me a pee nut :-) >Well, it's not surprising even if your system performance doesn't come >close to his since the CPU speed doesn't mean a lot if other components >in your system fall short. There's big differences between those >well-made, well-tweaked PCs and those less optimized PCs.

Thats it. You hit the nail on the head. Besides there is a lot of experts out there that have know idea how to set their machine for optimum performance.. Shane Lansky Hobart,Tasmania Australia

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>>How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take >>this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine >>out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg >>ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at >>Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the >>million bucks....:-) >You bring your Aborigine little ass over here and I'll shove that >*** somewhere. :-) If GP2 loves CPU power(I agree), then tell me >why an overclocked p200/83 can't come close to his estimates. I >mailed him and asked him for some Cbench numbers, and I'll he can say >is 'believe it or not'. And please don't call me a pee nut :-)

Number one. I am not an Aborigine. Number two I dont think you would be able to put that *** anywhere..:-) . Ok back to your opinion. You have made a fair coment there. One of my friends has a setup close to yours. He has an Abit M/B running a p200 at 83 mhz. Like you he could not come close to those figures which is as you would agree Bullshit for such a power machine. I have a p133 which I play in vga all details on. After a while and some fiddleing I found the secret to better frames. Use the ESTIMATE. Trust me you try it and you will get a huge increase. I can play on my p133 now in svga BUT I have to turn down the detail a bit so know go BUT on a 200/83 know problems and the mmx 200 at the shop it was even better. All detail on and SVGA. Using frame estimate. Others might try using what I have said to... Oh about saying your a pee nut But you did say the other guy was a liar to his face. That was uncalled for just as calling you a pee nut was un called for..:-) Fair enough.. Shane Lansky Hobart,Tasmania Australia

How about checking out some results at http://volftp.tin.it/GP2/gp2bench.htm, even a 233MMX running at 292Mhz/83 can just barely be under 100%. And that is at MONZA, with only 19.6fps. I am sorry, but no matter how 'Well Built' your system is, it is impossible. I would still like to see some Cbench #'s from this guy, but he seems to have disappeared! I wonder why?

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>>How the heck would you know michael maybe he's telling the truth. Some of >>these computers are mighty fast. I have a 200mmx 32megs sierra screamin >3D >>card and i run Nascer2 with everything on and it's silky smooth. Oh i'm >>sorry i shouldn't be talking about my fast computer because you could >>crying with envy right now . Your P5 90 mhz just don't cut it eh? Please >>don't call anyone a lier until you know the facts cause well YOU >>DON"T!!!!!!!!!!! >Well we all do no the facts. I have a P200 and GP2 still sucks graphic >wise I even still play monaco in vga to get a decent frame rate with all >on >FORZA FERRARI

I will be going from a P166, 512K burst, Matrox 2MB WRAM, to a P200MMX, 512K burst, same video. I'll post the results after the change. I will try and overclock the shit out of the processor, just for grins. Figure a week or so. Forza Schumacher! Jeff The other stuff is for preventing spammage. Thanks!

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>>>How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take >>>this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine >>>out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg >>>ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at >>>Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the >>>million bucks....:-) >>You bring your Aborigine little ass over here and I'll shove that >>*** somewhere. :-) If GP2 loves CPU power(I agree), then tell me >>why an overclocked p200/83 can't come close to his estimates. I >>mailed him and asked him for some Cbench numbers, and I'll he can say >>is 'believe it or not'. And please don't call me a pee nut :-) >Number one. I am not an Aborigine. Number two I dont think you would >be able to put that *** anywhere..:-) . Ok back to your opinion. You >have made a fair coment there. One of my friends has a setup close to >yours. He has an Abit M/B running a p200 at 83 mhz. Like you he could >not come close to those figures which is as you would agree Bullshit >for such a power machine. I have a p133 which I play in vga all >details on. After a while and some fiddleing I found the secret to >better frames. Use the ESTIMATE. Trust me you try it and you will get >a huge increase. I can play on my p133 now in svga BUT I have to turn >down the detail a bit so know go BUT on a 200/83 know problems and the >mmx 200 at the shop it was even better. All detail on and SVGA. Using >frame estimate. Others might try using what I have said to... >Oh about saying your a pee nut >But you did say the other guy was a liar to his face. >That was uncalled for just as calling you a pee nut was un called >for..:-) >Fair enough.. >Shane Lansky >Hobart,Tasmania >Australia

I have just bought a AMD K6 200MMX and i have just discovered a new game -> GP2 in SVGA -> IT IS GREAT !!!!!!!!! I have 25,6 frames with everyting on ! Ans more than 25,6 frames with no sky and mirrors The smooth of the game is fantastic, it just fly's in SVGA. I have 32 EDO RAM and a great Matrox Mystique 4MB videocard.

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> >Thats it. You hit the nail on the head. Besides there is a lot of > >experts out there that have know idea how to set their machine for > >optimum performance.. > How about checking out some results at > [link lost in import] even a 233MMX running at > 292Mhz/83 can just barely be under 100%. And that is at MONZA, with > only 19.6fps. I am sorry, but no matter how 'Well Built' your system > is, it is impossible. I would still like to see some Cbench #'s from > this guy, but he seems to have disappeared! I wonder why?

here is the cbench scores again , got really tired of all the shit, i was catching for just stating what i was getting attached below are the results ,so there not great but ,the games still flies and i am very happy with it now --------------3AD45E617905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="chris.log.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="chris.log.txt" Your computer received a Chris's Bench Score of 94.9 That is 78.9 frames per second C:\cbench> --------------3AD45E617905--

I have two systems one a Tyan Titan III (FX chipset 256K Pipeline cache), Pentium 120, and STB Lightspeed 128 (ET6000 2.25 MB)) the other a M-Tech R533 (VX chipset 512K pipeline cache), K5 PR166, and Diamond Stealth 64 (S3 Trio 64 1 MB Dram). Here are my GP2 frame rate estimates given by the game. I usually drop the actual frame rate about two to keep the frame rate constant. AMD K5 Pentium 120 VGA all objects all options except mirror textures and Sky. VGA all except mirror textures. 23.2 18 SVGA low objects, no track texture, no mirror texture. 19.6 16 Here are CBench scores: AMD K5 Pentium 120 VGA 143.6 (86.2 fps) 157.7 (94.6 fps) SVGA 39.9 (23.9 fps) 48.8 (29.3 fps) Note that even though Cbench scores or worse for AMD it still whips the pentium in frame rate in GP2. This shows me that Cbench might note be a good benchmark to compare frame rate with GP2. Jerry

>Here are my GP2 frame rate estimates given by the game. I usually drop >the actual frame rate about two to keep the frame rate constant. For comparison, I'll throw in my numbers for my P133/256K/32MB EDO/Diamond Stealth64 (s3 868): Mine, 23.2 Mine, 19.6 Mine, 19.6 (no textures at all) Mine, 157.2 (94.3 fps) Mine, 52.2 (31.3 fps) Well, I'm inclined to agree. I'd make that more universal and say that most all the benchmarks I've seen tend to come up short as indicators of real-world performance. Cbench at least doesn't predict factors of two difference in performance as does ZD Lab's PC Bench. Vidspeed also overpredicted differences (and even re-ordered) when I tested a Stealth vs Millenium vs STB128. CBench was the closest of the bunch. It is possible that Cbench uses some aspect of the Intel chips which AMD doesn't do well (and which isn't used in GP2)? It is also possible that GP2's framerate estimate may not be right-on for the actual gameplay too. I'm not surprised that your AMD166/Stealth system outperforms the 120 with the touted ET6000 chipset graphics. The ET6000, by my testing, is a bit faster than the Stealth 64, but not by near enough to make up for the 166 vs 120 difference (that is, assuming the AMD 166 is indeed equivalent to a P166).

If you set frame rate at around 15 yes ,but there's no way that any machine on the market today will run GP2 in SVGA with everything on at 25.6 FPS, even microprose admits that such a machine does not exist,especially not a P200mmx which cannot even run hi res. quake close to 20 FPS.

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> > How can he say dont take this wrong...***y pee nut. I would take > > this guy on as in the computer store here I tested a 200mmx machine > > out as I want to buy one. and it had a Diamond 3d 2000 4meg and 32 meg > > ram. Anyway GP2 loves CPU power so I gave it all GP2 had. SVGA and at > > Monarco 100% in all the buildings. That *** better cough up with the > > million bucks....:-) > > Shane Lansky > > Hobart,Tasmania > > Australia > THANK YOU! > MJ

> even microprose admits that such a machine does not exist,especially not a > P200mmx which cannot even run hi res. quake close to 20 FPS. ===== You should see glquake running on a Monster3D at 640x480. It's incredibly smooth, better than 25 fps is my guess. I wish Microprose and Papyrus would take a hint here. For all the whining and moaning going on about frame rates, you'd think somebody would write the game that makes a $200 graphics accelerator card a "must have." Mike.

Bullshit. I might wear glasses but I dont need a guide dog. Smoothness is in ones eyes. I seen it another guy has run it that is all there is to it....... Shane Lansky Hobart,Tasmania Australia

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>>>How the heck would you know michael maybe he's telling the truth. Some of >>>these computers are mighty fast. >>Well we all do no the facts. I have a P200 and GP2 still sucks graphic >>wise I even still play monaco in vga to get a decent frame rate with all >>on > I will be going from a P166, 512K burst, Matrox 2MB WRAM, to a >P200MMX, 512K burst, same video. I'll post the results after the >change. I will try and overclock the shit out of the processor, just >for grins.

Well, forget the overclocking. I got an estimate of 25.6; I use one less, and I can now run Monaco at the same speed I did before, but this time at full detail. I don't get 'standing kerb' patterns anymore either- the colors change position instead of just flicking from red to white and back again. Worth $300 for an upgrade?? I guess that depends on you. It definitely improved the game, that you can be assured of. Jeff The other stuff is for preventing spammage. Thanks!