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Bad News From Papyrus

56 posts by 31 people · 17 Mar 1997 - 26 Mar 1997

Notable threadFlame warForged Sokoloff post falsely cancels NASCAR 2 patch and NRO

A forged post in Jim Sokoloff's name claimed Papyrus had cancelled the NASCAR Racing 2 patch and delayed NASCAR Racing Online until NASCAR 3. Readers quickly traced the headers to Richard Manning, and Sokoloff confirmed it was a forgery and that the patch had not been cancelled. Many posters complained to Manning's ISP, which disabled his Netcom account, and Manning later returned with threats and insults.

With Jim Sokoloff (Papyrus)

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Matt 17 Mar 1997#359653
Quoted text (9 lines)> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > comes out during the first quarter of 98! > Regretfully, > Jim Sokoloff > Papyrus
I am sorry to hear that. I am deeply disappointed in that move by Papyrus. It gives me the impression that Papyrus only wants to make money at the expense of loyal software buyers. Don't get me wrong I love the game, but I am going to side with some of the other people on this issue. I feel that Papyrus tried to push the game out the door before it was ready so that they could get the extra revenue from Christmas sales. It would have made more sense the end user. Of course now adays the software companies hurry up and release the product with bugs, missing features, and other items that should have been addressed. This move on Papyrus part, I think, was a poor choice. It give the end user the impression I stated above, in addition to costing them sales. It will cost Papyrus sales because people will only stand so much. People are also getting irritated that software companies are expecting the end user to find the flaws in the software and if the company is in a cheerful mood they might fix the gripes. A disappointed, maybe depending on future releases Papyrus customer Matt Stark
Ah, Richie, you _will_ get past my "bozo filter", won't you... Guess what? I'm betting money that what you did is a violation of your TOS agreement--at least that's what I told your postmaster. I hope that I'm not the only one to have reported this (hint, hint). Just in case anybody else wants to report our friend Richie, remember responsible for this post, so don't get ***. Point out what he did, point it out in an *** manner, and leave it to them. send--anymore, and they'll brand us as kooks. That doesn't do anything. 3) Don't mailbomb him--that'll just get you in trouble with _your_ ISP. find yourself booted. Keep those cards and letters coming in... Scott
Chasma 17 Mar 1997#359655
It appears someone has nothing better to do with his/her time than to try to irritate good folks. So for all those who don't look at email addresses - This is a fake. ------- Chasman Simulator ***world http://sim
Quoted text (9 lines)> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > comes out during the first quarter of 98! > Regretfully, > Jim Sokoloff > Papyrus
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Jim Sokolo 18 Mar 1997#359774
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 comes out during the first quarter of 98! Regretfully, Jim Sokoloff Papyrus
motisk 18 Mar 1997#359775
Quoted text (29 lines)> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > > We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > > Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > > comes out during the first quarter of 98! > > Regretfully, > > Jim Sokoloff > > Papyrus > I am sorry to hear that. I am deeply disappointed in that move by > Papyrus. It gives me the impression that Papyrus only wants to make > money at the expense of loyal software buyers. Don't get me wrong I > love the game, but I am going to side with some of the other people on > this issue. I feel that Papyrus tried to push the game out the door > before it was ready so that they could get the extra revenue from > Christmas sales. It would have made more sense the end user. Of course > now adays the software companies hurry up and release the product with > bugs, missing features, and other items that should have been addressed. > This move on Papyrus part, I think, was a poor choice. It give the end > user the impression I stated above, in addition to costing them sales. > It will cost Papyrus sales because people will only stand so much. > People are also getting irritated that software companies are expecting > the end user to find the flaws in the software and if the company is in > a cheerful mood they might fix the gripes. > A disappointed, maybe depending on future releases Papyrus customer > Matt Stark
the note has to be a fake. you realize how many people would want to sue them for buying there product expecting to race a multiplayer game.. but it was a good prank...lol
Brian Fox 18 Mar 1997#359776
I would like to take this opportunity Mr. Manning to say that you are a complete ass. Jim Sokoloff takes the time to sift through the hundreds of articles in this newsgroup to keep us informed and answer our questions, simply because he chooses to. Then people like you thank him by forging messages and trying to cause turmoil simply because you have way to much free time. Get a life. -- Brian Fox Geocities' MotorCity Community Leader Get your own free homepage at http://www.geocities.com The Fox Den: Nascar 1 and 2, ICR2, GP2 and my Streetrod. http://www.4w.com/pages/fox AND/OR http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1238
Mr Bill 18 Mar 1997#359777
HaHa, Boy, you had me fooled. NOT!! But you have a point with the NRO. Perhaps they should. Now Mr Manning, April fools is on the 1st. OK. Mr Bill
Matt 18 Mar 1997#359778
I would like to apologize to anyone that read my post. I did not think to look at the header since I didn't think that anyone was that immature to impersonate someone. I guess that I was wrong. Impersonating someone so that it does harm to a company and the persons name is something that I would expect from a 10 year old mental midget using mommy's computer would do. I appologize to you Jim and any other person that read my message. The person that impersonated Jim, must also be a coward. I feel this way since he could not take is flames out here in public using his real name and e-mail address. I would follow Scott Stevenson's suggestion not go unpunished. It is one thing to impersonate someone, but when you are trying to hurt a company or individual that is just plain moronic. Even Beavis & Butthead would not do something that stupid, wait what am I saying they aren't bright enough to think of that. I think it would serve him right for his provider to terminate his usage.
Mike Radl 18 Mar 1997#359780
Richard Manning wrote while impersonating "Jim Sokoloff": Rich, Ever heard the expression "There's one in every crowd"? Congratulations, Your the one! Yep, your the reason dinosaurs made Tar, Birds make feathers, Pilgrims made stocks and God made stones, <snip a whole bunch of stuff> nations make nuclear warheads. BTW, quit following the "standard dork on the internet" pattern and try something creative and original next time. say, for example, disappear. The "impersonate somebody from Papyrus" trick has been done already by someone more intelligent than yourself. BTW again, you'd be amazed by the number of people who read the news groups. It is quite possible that someone who knows your mother is reading this stuff. Then your really gonna be in trouble. We're talking big time restriction like maybe a month without Nintendo 64. If your mother is listening then I've got two words for her...BIRTH CONTROL. Sorry to all for this off topic post. I'll stop contributing to this thread now. Guess I could have just said, Please report this Net abuse to Rich's postmaster but it wouldn't have made me feel any better. Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal
Greg Cisko 18 Mar 1997#359781
I guess I would like to know why netcom thinks it is OK for one of it's a user form a legitimate company. This person has obviously had some type of personal problem with Mr. Sokoloff. I don't understand it but if impersonating another user, (possibly making manning liable) in not inline with netcom rule, appropiate action should be taken. BTW, Mr. Sokoloff works for Papyrus and is one of the programers of Nascar Racing2 listed at the back of the manual. What your user did was potentialy damaging to more than a single person. Sincerly, Greg Cisko P.S. On the other hand, if someone was hacking Mr. Mannings name to make it look like he did this then I apologize. But I seriously doubt this is the case. -- Header address intentionaly scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.
Don Wilshe 18 Mar 1997#359782
Quoted text (9 lines)> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > comes out during the first quarter of 98! > Regretfully, > Jim Sokoloff > Papyrus
Based on an exmaination of this message I would suggest its a FAKE!!! I certainly dont believe Jim sent this message out.... Don Wilshe, IVGA
Mike Radl 18 Mar 1997#359783
>I guess I would like to know why netcom thinks it is OK for one of it's >a user form a legitimate company. This person has obviously had some >type of personal problem with Mr. Sokoloff. I don't understand it but if >impersonating another user, (possibly making manning liable) in not >inline with netcom rule, appropiate action should be taken. Netcom does NOT think it's ok to do what Richard did!! A FRIENDLY note to this matter should be all that is necessary to send Richard the way of other dorks like John Daugherty (the last Richard type that was here).
On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:30:16 -0800, Scott Stevenson > Guess what? I'm betting money that what you did is a violation of >your TOS agreement--at least that's what I told your postmaster. I hope >that I'm not the only one to have reported this (hint, hint). My complain is in the mail. Kyle Langston ____________________________________________ IBM #72 Ford Thunderbird - Hurricane Racing http://www.traction.git.net/hurricane/ NASS Series 1997 Winsten Cup Division
Quoted text (15 lines)>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... >> We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( >> Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 >> comes out during the first quarter of 98! >> Regretfully, >> Jim Sokoloff >> Papyrus >Based on an exmaination of this message I would suggest its >a FAKE!!! I certainly dont believe Jim sent this message >out.... >Don Wilshe, IVGA
Do you think the slip-up occurred when Manning used the return address Kyle Langston ____________________________________________ IBM #72 Ford Thunderbird - Hurricane Racing http://www.traction.git.net/hurricane/ NASS Series 1997 Winsten Cup Division
Quoted text (14 lines)>On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:30:16 -0800, Scott Stevenson >> Guess what? I'm betting money that what you did is a violation of >>your TOS agreement--at least that's what I told your postmaster. I hope >>that I'm not the only one to have reported this (hint, hint). >My complain is in the mail. >Kyle Langston >____________________________________________ >IBM #72 Ford Thunderbird - Hurricane Racing >http://www.traction.git.net/hurricane/ >NASS Series 1997 Winsten Cup Division
Oops, my COMPLAINT. Kyle Langston
SimRaci 18 Mar 1997#359787
Hey Scott... Just thought I'd remind you. ;) Best Regards, Marc
Marcus Ple 18 Mar 1997#359788
Matt, This is not intended as a flame. Everytime you read Usenet, you need to start out by reminding yourself that not everything you read is going to be true. In fact, most of what you will read is probably not true. If it were, then it just wouldn't be Usenet. ;-) Gene Spafford (could be wrong here) perhaps best summed it up with: "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Marcus
Quoted text (19 lines)>> I am sorry to hear that. I am deeply disappointed in that move by >> Papyrus. It gives me the impression that Papyrus only wants to make >> money at the expense of loyal software buyers. Don't get me wrong I >> love the game, but I am going to side with some of the other people on >> this issue. I feel that Papyrus tried to push the game out the door >> before it was ready so that they could get the extra revenue from >> Christmas sales. It would have made more sense the end user. Of course >> now adays the software companies hurry up and release the product with >> bugs, missing features, and other items that should have been addressed. >> This move on Papyrus part, I think, was a poor choice. It give the end >> user the impression I stated above, in addition to costing them sales. >> It will cost Papyrus sales because people will only stand so much. >> People are also getting irritated that software companies are expecting >> the end user to find the flaws in the software and if the company is in >> a cheerful mood they might fix the gripes. >> A disappointed, maybe depending on future releases Papyrus customer >> Matt Stark
ccorpor 18 Mar 1997#359789
writes: REPLY: I would like to take this time to state I do sift through this group as well (although not hundreds on a dialy basis) And for what? The love of the game, trying to push Papy to go the extra yard. For no financial gain whatsoever. In all honesty you would think a company would always sift through the ng in their best interests. I for one would always want to know what my customers were thinking. So if Jim does it all on his own it's a credit to him and a discredit to Papy. They should pay a man to know what the customer is thinking about a product. We sure have'm at our place and we only have a handful of customers. I don't know but this is a two way street and Papy should be here. Obviously the *** who did this is easily forgotten and shouldn't deter any effort from Papy to stay here. Your gonna have this kinda stuff in a forum like this. You just look forward to the next post. Q.B.M.
Marcus Ple 18 Mar 1997#359790
Wow. Forged news. This is an impressive display of your technical skills. Now come on, you posted this at 8:50 PM CST from your netcom account. Isn't that past your bed time? Inquiring minds want to know . . .
> Hey Scott... > Just thought I'd remind you. ;) Thanks! I wouldn't want to forget the nice person or persons who Keep those cards and letters coming in... Scott "Ich bin das Eierman, sie sind die Eiermaenner, Ich bin das Walross" "Je suis l'oeufhomme, ils sont les oeufhommes, je suis le moors"
Don Mullin 18 Mar 1997#359792
Quoted text (9 lines)> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > comes out during the first quarter of 98! > Regretfully, > Jim Sokoloff > Papyrus
Some people have to much damn time on thier hands. Wow you can change your name in your news reader. We all impressed. Grow the hell up and get a life. -- To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil! The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up! GO#2! Mullins Motorsports Inc. http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj
Don Mullin 18 Mar 1997#359793
Quoted text (29 lines)> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > > We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > > Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > > comes out during the first quarter of 98! > > Regretfully, > > Jim Sokoloff > > Papyrus > I am sorry to hear that. I am deeply disappointed in that move by > Papyrus. It gives me the impression that Papyrus only wants to make > money at the expense of loyal software buyers. Don't get me wrong I > love the game, but I am going to side with some of the other people on > this issue. I feel that Papyrus tried to push the game out the door > before it was ready so that they could get the extra revenue from > Christmas sales. It would have made more sense the end user. Of course > now adays the software companies hurry up and release the product with > bugs, missing features, and other items that should have been addressed. > This move on Papyrus part, I think, was a poor choice. It give the end > user the impression I stated above, in addition to costing them sales. > It will cost Papyrus sales because people will only stand so much. > People are also getting irritated that software companies are expecting > the end user to find the flaws in the software and if the company is in > a cheerful mood they might fix the gripes. > A disappointed, maybe depending on future releases Papyrus customer > Matt Stark
The post was a fake by some one who needs to be struck with lightning a few times. -- To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil! The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up! GO#2! Mullins Motorsports Inc. http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj
Perry Lawle 18 Mar 1997#359794
Is this true???? ########################################################### Perry Lawless System Analyst/Microcomputer Specialist Nicholls State University Computer Services ###########################################################
Quoted text (9 lines)> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > comes out during the first quarter of 98! > Regretfully, > Jim Sokoloff > Papyrus
Gee Richard, *THAT* was mature....
Don Mullin 18 Mar 1997#359796
Quoted text (23 lines)> Is this true???? > >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > >We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > >Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > >comes out during the first quarter of 98! > >Regretfully, > >Jim Sokoloff > >Papyrus > ########################################################### > Perry Lawless > System Analyst/Microcomputer Specialist > Nicholls State University > Computer Services > ###########################################################
No it is not. Some jack ass tryed to impersonate Jim, but didn't cover his tracks at all. -- To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil! The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up! GO#2! Mullins Motorsports Inc. http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj
Don Mullin 18 Mar 1997#359797
Quoted text (34 lines)> Forged news follows > >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > >We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > >Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > >comes out during the first quarter of 98! > >Regretfully, > >Jim Sokoloff > >Papyrus > My, my, my; someone's got to fill up my day with something to do. The > above post is a fake, apparently from an individual with a grudge > against me and Papyrus. > The patch has most certainly not been cancelled, and no announcements > regarding NRO, nor N3 have been made. > I've asked the postmaster to ascertain the party responsible (I'm sure > that'll take some world-class sleuthing...) and to take appropriate > action. I've also notified Papyrus management of this incident, and I > suspect they'll want to have a little to do with it. > In the meantime, if the above post, after hearing what the truth is, > offends you, please express (in few words; postmasters are busy > Thanks, I apologize for those who have been misled by this individual, > and I presumably share your hope that justice will indeed by > eventually served, > ---Jim Sokoloff (the real one)
Glad to hear your still with us Jim. There always has to be one person trying to ruin something for everyone else. I think that probably 95% of the people who read his message complained to his ISP so we shouldn't have to deal with him any longer. -- To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil! The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up! GO#2! Mullins Motorsports Inc. http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj
Matt 18 Mar 1997#359798
Quoted text (22 lines)> On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:07:09 -0600, David Otterness > >Jim Sokoloff didn't actually write: > >> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > >> We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > >> Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > >> comes out during the first quarter of 98! > >> Regretfully, > >> Jim Sokoloff > >> Papyrus > >Gee Richard, *THAT* was mature.... > Just so everyone possible knows: the above post, attributed to me, was > a forgery, and Papyrus has not cancelled the patch, nor has any delay > been announced for NRO... > ---Jim Sokoloff, (the real one) Papyrus
Notice how Richard Manning has not responded to any of this. What's the deal Richard didn't think things through fully. I guess that age old saying applies to you "Young, Dumb and full of Cum." Grow up Richard that is what we would expect from a person in middle school that rides the little yellow air conditioned bus.
Jim Sokolo 19 Mar 1997#359927
Forged news follows My, my, my; someone's got to fill up my day with something to do. The above post is a fake, apparently from an individual with a grudge against me and Papyrus. The patch has most certainly not been cancelled, and no announcements regarding NRO, nor N3 have been made. I've asked the postmaster to ascertain the party responsible (I'm sure that'll take some world-class sleuthing...) and to take appropriate action. I've also notified Papyrus management of this incident, and I suspect they'll want to have a little to do with it. In the meantime, if the above post, after hearing what the truth is, offends you, please express (in few words; postmasters are busy Thanks, I apologize for those who have been misled by this individual, and I presumably share your hope that justice will indeed by eventually served, ---Jim Sokoloff (the real one)
No its not check the header from the original message and what do you get. Let me show you. Notice Richard Manning on the end. I haven't run a traceroute on this message but I would say it is safe to assume Jim didn't send it.
Quoted text (8 lines)> Is this true???? > >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > >We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:(
Jim Sokolo 19 Mar 1997#359929
On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:07:09 -0600, David Otterness
Quoted text (13 lines)>Jim Sokoloff didn't actually write: >> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... >> We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( >> Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 >> comes out during the first quarter of 98! >> Regretfully, >> Jim Sokoloff >> Papyrus >Gee Richard, *THAT* was mature....
Just so everyone possible knows: the above post, attributed to me, was a forgery, and Papyrus has not cancelled the patch, nor has any delay been announced for NRO... ---Jim Sokoloff, (the real one) Papyrus
Greg Cisko 19 Mar 1997#359930
Hey pal. There is also more to life than flaming a useless moron like yourself. DUH!!! -- Header address intentionaly scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.
Mike Radl 19 Mar 1997#359931
>Who gives a flying f**k anyway,I bet half you crazy bastards lie awake >at nite thinking of the upcuming {sic} nascar patch.....theres a hell >of a lot more to life than a coumputer game. Flame me please. tlymp, No flame necessary. Your entitled to your opinion. It's no crime to have your state of mind<G>. As for me, I don't even have time for N2 right now (still squeeze in at least one 50% Hawaii race a week though). Until April 15th, my laying awake will have little to do with Nascar. Drop a rock in a bucket of water and watch how fast the resulting hole fills up to get an indication of how fast there will be a replacement for Richard Manning. Member Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal
Quoted text (25 lines)>> On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:07:09 -0600, David Otterness >> >Jim Sokoloff didn't actually write: >> >> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... >> >> We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( >> >> Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 >> >> comes out during the first quarter of 98! >> >> Regretfully, >> >> Jim Sokoloff >> >> Papyrus >> >Gee Richard, *THAT* was mature.... >> Just so everyone possible knows: the above post, attributed to me, was >> a forgery, and Papyrus has not cancelled the patch, nor has any delay >> been announced for NRO... >> ---Jim Sokoloff, (the real one) Papyrus >Notice how Richard Manning has not responded to any of this. What's the >deal Richard didn't think things through fully.
I would guess it's because his Netcom account has been canceled. MikeC
Mike Radl 19 Mar 1997#359933
>Notice how Richard Manning has not responded to any of this. What's the >deal Richard didn't think things through fully. >I guess that age old saying applies to you "Young, Dumb and full of >Cum." Grow up Richard that is what we would expect from a person in >middle school that rides the little yellow air conditioned bus. Whoa!!! They're air conditioned now?? Geez, where have I been? No wonder my kids are so soft ;-) Member Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal
SimRaci 19 Mar 1997#359934
Uh, Mike?...Notice that he said "...little..."? I hope your kids aren't riding on a *little* yellow air-conditioned bus...Perhaps you should consider moving away from Love Canal? ;) Best Regards, Marc
> >Notice how Richard Manning has not responded to any of this. What's the > >deal Richard didn't think things through fully. > I would guess it's because his Netcom account has been canceled. One of the nice folks at Netcom told me that the account has been "disabled", and that it will stay that way until he understands Netiquitte, and their policy... And I say Good for them! -- take care, Scott Good Idea--Read Only Memory Bad Idea--Write Only Memory
tlym 20 Mar 1997#360054
Quoted text (30 lines)> Richard Manning wrote while impersonating "Jim Sokoloff": > >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys but..... > >We have canceled all plans for a Nascar 2 patch.:( > >Furthermore we have decided not to start up the NRO until after Nascar 3 > >comes out during the first quarter of 98! > Rich, > Ever heard the expression "There's one in every crowd"? > Congratulations, Your the one! Yep, your the reason dinosaurs made Tar, > Birds make feathers, Pilgrims made stocks and God made stones, <snip a > whole bunch of stuff> nations make nuclear warheads. > BTW, quit following the "standard dork on the internet" pattern and try > something creative and original next time. say, for example, disappear. > The "impersonate somebody from Papyrus" trick has been done already > by someone more intelligent than yourself. > BTW again, you'd be amazed by the number of people who read the news > groups. It is quite possible that someone who knows your mother is > reading this stuff. Then your really gonna be in trouble. We're talking > big time restriction like maybe a month without Nintendo 64. If your > mother is listening then I've got two words for her...BIRTH CONTROL. > Sorry to all for this off topic post. I'll stop contributing to this > thread now. Guess I could have just said, Please report this Net abuse > to Rich's postmaster but it wouldn't have made me feel any better. > Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal
Who gives a flying f**k anyway,I bet half you crazy bastards lie awake at nite thinking of the upcuming {sic} nascar patch.....theres a hell of a lot more to life than a coumputer game. Flame me please.
Mike Radl 20 Mar 1997#360055
Quoted text (7 lines)>> Whoa!!! They're air conditioned now?? Geez, where have I been? No >> wonder my kids are so soft ;-) >Uh, Mike?...Notice that he said "...little..."? I hope your kids aren't >riding >on a *little* yellow air-conditioned bus...Perhaps you should consider >moving away from Love Canal? ;)
Oops!!! My bad!!! Guess I better read a little slower or get my mind a little lower. After all, this is rec.autos.simulators ;-) Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal
tlym 20 Mar 1997#360056
Quoted text (17 lines)> >Who gives a flying f**k anyway,I bet half you crazy bastards lie awake > >at nite thinking of the upcuming {sic} nascar patch.....theres a hell > >of a lot more to life than a coumputer game. Flame me please. > tlymp, > No flame necessary. Your entitled to your opinion. It's no crime to have > your state of mind<G>. As for me, I don't even have time for N2 right now > (still squeeze in at least one 50% Hawaii race a week though). Until April > 15th, my laying awake will have little to do with Nascar. > Drop a rock in a bucket of water and watch how fast the resulting hole fills > up to get an indication of how fast there will be a replacement for Richard > Manning. > Member Hawaii Ace League [link lost in import]
Any one ever here of sarcasam? Let's try to take things with a little levity. I'm a total autosim ***,as my 1000+ hour on hawaii will show. I will admit,there could have been a better way to enter the NG. I apologize if anyone took ofence to my remarks. MRV on Hawaii
Mike Radl 20 Mar 1997#360057
>Any one ever here of sarcasam? Let's try to take things with a little >levity. I'm a total autosim ***,as my 1000+ hour on hawaii will show. >I will admit,there could have been a better way to enter the NG. >I apologize if anyone took ofence to my remarks. > MRV on Hawaii No problem MrV. Sorry but the timing wasn't all that great. Richard impersonating Jim really ticked me off. Back in the old days, Ed Martin from Papyrus used to frequent this group and the same thing happened to him. I think he got fed up with that and how difficult it was to carry on a civil discussion about Papy's Sims so he left. I also remember Adam L. (not gonna try) from Papy posting some general time frame estimates with regard to the release of the N2 demo. When the demo didn't arrive at the *estimated* time Adam took a heavy flame beating which is one of the reasons why we're not going to hear anything about the patch until it's at the Sierra web site. We don't hear from Adam much anymore. Anyway, I personally appreciate Jim Sokoloff's presence on this group answering questions and such. I'd hate to see him go too. Fortunately, he seems to have a little better armor than those who came before him (not to take anything away from his predecessors of course). Cheers, Member Hawaii Ace League [link lost in import]
John Mela 20 Mar 1997#360058
<Flame bait snipped> Isn't this the sort of ***that some jerk^h^h^h^h moron posted awhile ago which chased Ed Martin away? --John Melair They're not bugs! They're random features! ------------------------------------------------------ Sorry, but to try to get away from all the damn spammers, I had to change my email information, like everyone else. reply to johnm973 (at) voicenet.com, thanks
ZAZBREA 20 Mar 1997#360059
Quoted text (7 lines)>Notice how Richard Manning has not responded to any of this. What's the >deal Richard didn't think things through fully. >I guess that age old saying applies to you "Young, Dumb and full of >Cum." Grow up Richard that is what we would expect from a person in >middle school that rides the little yellow air conditioned bus. >Whoa!!! They're air conditioned now?? Geez, where have I been? No wonder
my >kids are so soft ;-) >Member Hawaii Ace League [link lost in import] Yeah right! I ride one now and they aren't air conditioned, It's hot as ***on the buses in the spring and late summer Philip Young
Matt 20 Mar 1997#360060
Quoted text (19 lines)> >Notice how Richard Manning has not responded to any of this. What's the > >deal Richard didn't think things through fully. > >I guess that age old saying applies to you "Young, Dumb and full of > >Cum." Grow up Richard that is what we would expect from a person in > >middle school that rides the little yellow air conditioned bus. > >Whoa!!! They're air conditioned now?? Geez, where have I been? No wonder > my > >kids are so soft ;-) > >Member Hawaii Ace League [link lost in import] > Yeah right! I ride one now and they aren't air conditioned, It's hot as > ***on the buses in the spring and late summer > Philip Young
It seems people having difficulty understanding about the little yellow air conditioned bus. It is where the physically, mentally challenge kids ride. Yes, I was trying to word that politically correct (pc). If that is too hard I will not be pc and say retards or mental midgets all of these classify Richard Manning. I am not bashing challenged kids, I spend time with a lot of them so do not flame me.
James Dunph 20 Mar 1997#360061
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC34C8.948B6C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark your a shit :-) . Thats okay I hit his postmaster also. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC34C8.948B6C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#A0A0A8"><p><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial Narrow">Mark your a shit :-) . Thats = okay I hit his postmaster also.<br><br></p> </font></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_01BC34C8.948B6C40--
James Dunph 20 Mar 1997#360062
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC34CA.70E31660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks Jim , we never lost faith ------=_NextPart_000_01BC34CA.70E31660 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#A0A0A8"><p><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial Narrow">thanks Jim , we never lost = faith<br><br><br></p> </font></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_01BC34CA.70E31660--
Mike Radl 21 Mar 1997#360215
Quoted text (7 lines)>It seems people having difficulty understanding about the little yellow >air conditioned bus. It is where the physically, mentally challenge >kids ride. Yes, I was trying to word that politically correct (pc). If >that is too hard I will not be pc and say retards or mental midgets all >of these classify Richard Manning. >I am not bashing challenged kids, I spend time with a lot of them so do >not flame me.
Yep, Pardon my ignorance. I consulted my resident expert (***age daughter) and she confirmed that, yes they do ride in little yellow air conditioned buses and sometimes in blue vans. Much to my dismay, she also informed me that her large bus is air conditioned! WHY, when I was a kid we had to cross rivers without bridges to get to school. Of course, the rivers don't have water in Arizona so it wasn't too bad. Mea culpa, Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal
John Hende 21 Mar 1997#360216
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> WHY, >when I was a kid we had to cross rivers without bridges to get to >school. Of course, the rivers don't have water in Arizona so it wasn't >too bad. You think that was tough. By eck, when I was a lad.... aaarrrggghhh!!!!! ;-) Cheers, Richard
ROSC 25 Mar 1997#360773
Richard Manning from Netcom illegally impersonated Jim Solokoff... (rest of text taken out...) For people who see this message...well... the :( means that that stupid ****head will die like the IRL!!!! Christopher
Come on down to Savannah you little s!#! and lets see who dies. You little pencil necked computer geeks can keep kissing Jimbo's ass if you want. Don't insult me for not sucking up to Jim. He's a *** who never gives any of you geeks a straight answer. Ask him a yes or no question and you get two paragraphs of drivel. Take not ROSC started this up again not me. So don't any of you no-life except for my computer nerds throw down your pocket protectors in disgust with me. Buzz off, Richard Manning President - J. Sokoloff fan club
> Come on down to Savannah you little s!#! and lets see who dies. You little > pencil necked computer geeks can keep kissing Jimbo's ass if you want. > Don't insult me for not sucking up to Jim. He's a *** who never gives > any of you geeks a straight answer. Ask him a yes or no question and you > get two paragraphs of drivel. Take not ROSC started this up again not me.
Quoted text (7 lines)> So don't any of you no-life except for my computer nerds throw down your > pocket protectors in disgust with me. > Buzz off, > Richard Manning > President - J. Sokoloff fan club
Jeezezzz 'fella, what's your problem ??? Just 'cause you've some 'beef' with Jim dosn't mean that everyone that If Jim's precence (sp?) bother you that much the stay out! Nobody's forceing you to subscribe to this group. Stop wasting all this bandwidth with all this mumbo-jumbo!
Keep this up, Richie, and you'll run out of ISPs before you know what hit you. On 25 Mar 1997 19:22:02 GMT, "Richard Manning"
Quoted text (24 lines)>Come on down to Savannah you little s!#! and lets see who dies. You little >pencil necked computer geeks can keep kissing Jimbo's ass if you want. >Don't insult me for not sucking up to Jim. He's a *** who never gives >any of you geeks a straight answer. Ask him a yes or no question and you >get two paragraphs of drivel. Take not ROSC started this up again not me. >So don't any of you no-life except for my computer nerds throw down your >pocket protectors in disgust with me. >Buzz off, >Richard Manning >President - J. Sokoloff fan club >> Richard Manning from Netcom illegally impersonated Jim Solokoff... >> >We have canceled all plans for a nascar 2 patch..:( >> (rest of text taken out...) >> For people who see this message...well... the >> :( >> means that that stupid ****head will die like the IRL!!!! >> Christopher
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Mr Bill 26 Mar 1997#360915
Hey***, Im game. Beat you senseless you goof.*** Come on up to Edmonton Ab.*** I Ain't no geek.*** Bonehead.*** Go Away.Dick Hitler must of missed you family.***. Mr Bill.....Bad Mood today, not myself. This shitface really pissed me off. To all the normal folks here, My apologies. > Come on down to Savannah you little s!#! and lets see who dies. You little > pencil necked computer geeks can keep kissing Jimbo's ass if you want. > Don't insult me for not sucking up to Jim. He's a *** who never gives > any of you geeks a straight answer. Ask him a yes or no question and you > get two paragraphs of drivel. Take not ROSC started this up again not me.
Quoted text (19 lines)> So don't any of you no-life except for my computer nerds throw down your > pocket protectors in disgust with me. > Buzz off, > Richard Manning > President - J. Sokoloff fan club > > Richard Manning from Netcom illegally impersonated Jim Solokoff... > > >We have canceled all plans for a nascar 2 patch..:( > > (rest of text taken out...) > > For people who see this message...well... the > > :( > > means that that stupid ****head will die like the IRL!!!! > > Christopher
Hey Richard! or do you go by***? Havent you learned anything from the post that got you in trouble here in the first place? If you have a problem with Jim why not pick up the phone and give a call to Sierra, ask for Jim, and speak your mind ( Jim if he does this...Sorry in advance) and let him do the same. Then you can spare us all here on the news group the wasted time it takes to read your garble. If you think N2 is that bad why not return it or simply not play it and move on to Bill Elliott's racing or something????? DUHHHHHHHHHHH

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