Almost a year since Spooky was killed !

Well as some of you know Spooky was tragicly killed on the 7th of August last year. I know this is still some time off from today but I`m gonna burn a candle on that day ! :-( Keep up the good work West Brothers !

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> Well as some of you know Spooky was tragicly killed on the 7th of August > last year. > I know this is still some time off from today but I`m gonna burn a candle on > that day ! > > :-( > > Keep up the good work West Brothers ! > >

I hope they're better programmers than pet owners.

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> Paulinho wrote: >> Well as some of you know Spooky was tragicly killed on the 7th of >> August last year. >> I know this is still some time off from today but I`m gonna burn a >> candle on that day ! >> >> :-( >> >> Keep up the good work West Brothers ! >> >> > > I hope they're better programmers than pet owners.

I'd say it's about even-steven....One Racing project died. One Kitty died. If I were a Goldfish in the West household...I would be taking evolution lessons. :) dh

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> Well as some of you know Spooky was tragicly killed on the 7th of August > last year. > I know this is still some time off from today but I`m gonna burn a candle on > that day ! > > :-( > > Keep up the good work West Brothers !

I heard that Spooky actually starved to death. It really was not the West's fault. They fully intended to feed him. They told him on numerous occasions that they would, but things just never seemed to work out. It seems that every time they finally decided on a specific food to administer to him, they found another, better, more nutritious food that they then had to investigate and research. A sad story, really. Doc

They were too busy designing this REALLY COOL BOWL to put the food in. Wow, that was my first jab at them.. but it was painfully obvious.. I had to. -- Mike Beauchamp http://www.therevox.com - custom electro-theremins and stuff. http://www.mikebeauchamp.com - mike's personal site. "Doc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Paulinho" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<cba8r2$lf7$[email hidden]>... > > Well as some of you know Spooky was tragicly killed on the 7th of August > > last year. > > I know this is still some time off from today but I`m gonna burn a candle on > > that day ! > > > > :-( > > > > Keep up the good work West Brothers ! > > > I heard that Spooky actually starved to death. It really was not the > West's fault. They fully intended to feed him. They told him on > numerous occasions that they would, but things just never seemed to > work out. It seems that every time they finally decided on a specific > food to administer to him, they found another, better, more nutritious > food that they then had to investigate and research. A sad story, > really. > > Doc

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> They were too busy designing this REALLY COOL BOWL to put the food in. > > Wow, that was my first jab at them.. but it was painfully obvious.. I had > to. > > > -- > Mike Beauchamp

Yep. It was really quite nice, what with the neat teddy bear design and all. ;o) Elrikk

LOL. Too funny!! "Doc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Paulinho" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<cba8r2$lf7$[email hidden]>... > > Well as some of you know Spooky was tragicly killed on the 7th of August > > last year. > > I know this is still some time off from today but I`m gonna burn acandle on

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> > that day ! > > > > :-( > > > > Keep up the good work West Brothers ! > > > I heard that Spooky actually starved to death. It really was not the > West's fault. They fully intended to feed him. They told him on > numerous occasions that they would, but things just never seemed to > work out. It seems that every time they finally decided on a specific > food to administer to him, they found another, better, more nutritious > food that they then had to investigate and research. A sad story, > really. > > Doc

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 06:48:47 -0400, JTS wrote: > LOL. Too funny!! > a few of the west racing related posts have already made it to alt.humor.best-of-usenet fame. I'll pick two from the latest thread and submit them for review, too ;-) uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Pretty poor taste of you guys. I'm sure that the cat was considered a family member. Remember that the next time a relative of yours dies and people poke fun at you, no matter what your shortcomings are. Any possibility of people getting banned here? "JTS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> LOL. Too funny!! > > "Doc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Paulinho" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:<cba8r2$lf7$[email hidden]>... > > > Well as some of you know Spooky was tragicly killed on the 7th of August > > > last year. > > > I know this is still some time off from today but I`m gonna burn a > candle on > > > that day ! > > > > > > :-( > > > > > > Keep up the good work West Brothers ! > > > > > > I heard that Spooky actually starved to death. It really was not the > > West's fault. They fully intended to feed him. They told him on > > numerous occasions that they would, but things just never seemed to > > work out. It seems that every time they finally decided on a specific > > food to administer to him, they found another, better, more nutritious > > food that they then had to investigate and research. A sad story, > > really. > > > > Doc

I agree totally. The whole sorry affair was a terrible CAT-astrophe ;-) MS "simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Pretty poor taste of you guys. I'm sure that the cat was considered a > family member. Remember that the next time a relative of yours dies > and people poke fun at you, no matter what your shortcomings are. > > Any possibility of people getting banned here?

Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real gas to hang out with. You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad sandwich ? Lighten up, Francis.

> Well as some of you know Spooky was tragicly killed on the 7th of August > last year. > I know this is still some time off from today but I`m gonna burn a candleon > that day ! > > :-( > > Keep up the good work West Brothers ! Are you serious ? I like cats but "I`m gonna burn a candle "...your're joking, right ??? Save this in your "drafts" until April 1st .

On 23 Jun 2004 10:07:46 -0700, simpson wrote: > Pretty poor taste of you guys. I'm sure that the cat was considered a > family member. Remember that the next time a relative of yours dies > and people poke fun at you, no matter what your shortcomings are. > > Any possibility of people getting banned here? Sorry, this is USENET. You might want to explore the countless features that web forums offer if you think banning people will help improve the general quality and niveau (wow, I spelt that! ;-) of posts within the community. ;-) All the best, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:26:58 +0000 (UTC), Mark Seery wrote: > I agree totally. > The whole sorry affair was a terrible CAT-astrophe ;-) > MS > oi mark, yer old geezer. When did you have your last CAT-Scan? ;-) Cheers, uwe PS: go england! -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On 23 Jun 2004 10:07:46 -0700, simpson wrote: > Pretty poor taste of you guys. I'm sure that the cat was considered a > family member. Remember that the next time a relative of yours dies > and people poke fun at you, no matter what your shortcomings are. Actually, on second thought, I can well relate. Our cat lucy died a couple of years ago, and both my son and me cried like babies when we took her from the pet doc who'd help her pass on to the other side, then burying her in my in-law's garden (they say cat's graves make for great roses). I even put up an obituary (now, did I spell that correctly?) at http://www.schuerkamp.de/hoover/lucy/ But still, whenever I feel sorry about the death of a cat, I remind myself of the many creatures she / he has put to death in the most cruelly, even playsome, kind of way, leaving them for us to finish off without so much as a glance to the side when she walked past. How does it feel to kill a little bird fallen from its nest by putting a bloody spade through its neck? Have you ever watched those tiny wings fluttering when death cometh? You know, sometimes it's everybody's turn, be it bird, mouse, cat or human. There comes a time when it's time to give back to the community of life on this planet, which you have eaten through without doing so much as thinking about it, for all your life. I attended a funeral today of a relative (not cat), so these thoughts are in my head at the moment. Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

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> I heard that Spooky actually starved to death. It really was not the > West's fault. They fully intended to feed him. They told him on > numerous occasions that they would, but things just never seemed to > work out. It seems that every time they finally decided on a specific > food to administer to him, they found another, better, more nutritious > food that they then had to investigate and research. A sad story, > really.

I'm not sure. My guess is the the actual food was only in an early development stage and not yet edible, even to a small group of cats for testing. However, all the major development work went into the design of the tin in which the food would be packaged. The next phase was to design a transporter for the tins. Delighted with progress they returned to work on the recipe only to find that existing production was incapable of processing the food before the ingredients had gone off. The finishing touches were added to the transporter whilst waiting for technological developments in food processing hardware. Meanwhile Spooky being fairly computer savvy managed to order some tins of salmon using one of the guys' credit cards left lying around. Unfortunately as none of the Wests were called Jonathan the shipment was turned away leaving the poor cat to starve.

"GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EymCc.74499$2i5.57568@attbi_s52... > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real gas to hangout > with. > You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad sandwich ? > Lighten up, Francis. I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad. I also created an organization which (among other things) shows people the nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals suffer through each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still images from inside those torture chambers. People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, and realize that they are responsible. Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you. -- David G Fisher

Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore and aunt no movie ever gonna change that. Rabbit food is just that... I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone else pushing their views on me and others. This is what Mike Moore and Joseph Goebles do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda. Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and we sure don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed with alcohol, whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see a revolution :) Man, you sure you're not from California? Mitch "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:EymCc.74499$2i5.57568@attbi_s52... > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real gas to hang > out > > with. > > You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad sandwich ? > > Lighten up, Francis. > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad. > > I also created an organization which (among other things) shows people the > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals suffer

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> each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still images from > inside those torture chambers. > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, and realize > that they are responsible. > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you. > -- > David G Fisher > > >

We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy I decided on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it's generally a waste of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the truth, and it's more important to get these videos in front of millions of eyes than to waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever admit to the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always been people like that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) I won't even waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just let them yell at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them, it's really very funny actually. As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in a "big way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn their heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We are just giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully hidden from them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's certainly nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic, and making them available, is the most important thing someone can do. There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through corporations are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are horriffic. They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls. We try to make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the lying scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations have spent hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure that brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully constructed, cute, funny commercials and advertisements. We show men, women and children the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures from inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and nothing more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's who've been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades. The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no idea" after seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the country and as visible as possible very soon. Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have trouble with truth/reality. :-) -- David G Fisher "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2RJCc.77161$[email hidden]... > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore and aunt no > movie ever gonna change that. Rabbit food is just that... > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone else pushing > their views on me and others. This is what Mike Moore and Joseph Goebles > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda. > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and we sure > don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed with alcohol, > whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see a revolution :) > > Man, you sure you're not from California? > > > Mitch > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:EymCc.74499$2i5.57568@attbi_s52... > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real gas to hang > > out > > > with. > > > You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad sandwich ? > > > Lighten up, Francis. > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad. > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things) shows people the > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals suffer > through > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still images from > > inside those torture chambers. > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, and realize > > that they are responsible. > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you. > > -- > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > >

Where did i say i had a problem with vegetarians, Davy ? Sarcasm is a form of expression, not a life decision, such as vegans or the gay/lesbian thing. Life is short, and i dont have time to wonder what fucking path everyone is walking. If i offended, im sorry. But the truth is, i couldnt care if folks eat trees, beavers, or stardust. I wont bore you with what goals i have in life, because i know you're to busy to care for the most part what the hell everyone else thinks as well. Or i should hope so anyway. I dont know you, so i dont know why you picked me for this lovely diatribe. I wasnt addressing you, so i'm twice as stumped here... So, to pass on the same good advice as Simpy there: Lighten up, Francis...

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> movie ever gonna change that. Rabbit food is just that... > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone else pushing > their views on me and others. This is what Mike Moore and Joseph Goebles > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda. > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and we sure > don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed with

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> whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see a revolution :) > > Man, you sure you're not from California? > > > Mitch >

Ramble coming... It might not change you from meat eater to vegetarian, but it might change your purchasing decisions (or not). Industrial farming is a much deeper problem than "simply" causing grief for the animals. It is rather quickly eroding our ability to have sustainable crop production (the "our" being a collective, global term, as problems range from drying out underground aquefiers in Texas to salinating topsoil in Australia). I'm a meat eater, but I buy my meat from a local farmer, and I know how he treats his animals and I know how he works his crops. I pay more for it, but it's simply a conscious decision to support those who are working to improve the situation. If I did not have a local farmer (if I lived in a city for example) I could still buy organic-labelled food which guarantees the producer follows certain standards for animal care and for crop use. My parents' heads spin when they visit us and see that we pay anywhere up to 200% more for meat compared to Canada, but one can turn the argument around and ask if it's really so wise to support an agricultural system which artificially presses prices down and sells chicken for pennies a pound. Everyone loses with this system; the farmers, the consumers (hormones, sub-standard quality) and the nation. The only reason I made the decision to switch my buying habits was because of reading a few books like "Diet for a Small Planet", or seeing documentaries about agricultural practices which I didn't know about. There's a fine line between someone "pushing their views on me and others" and educating. A little education is a good thing, and it would be helpful if everyone could think outside the box and look beyond the styropore tray. Again, it's not about a moral decision to eat meat or not, it's just about following the logical thread of one's actions to the end point. Stephen

In article <40dbd03f$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Stephen Ferguson) wrote: > It might not change you from meat eater to vegetarian, but it might > change your purchasing decisions (or not) That's it. I have no objection to people (including myself) eating meat, but the way it's reared and slaughtered is usually shameful. I buy meat occasionally as a "treat", and when I do I try my best to buy from a supplier that at least claims to be trying to look after their stock. The trouble is such stock is often slaughtered in exactly the same way as the mass market meat (due to legislation which tries to protect us from health rather than animal welfare issues). It's easy to say there are bigger issues to worry about than this, but when a morally corrupt way of life is built into society I think it affects us all in one way or another, whether that BSE, stress hormones in our meat, or just the shame in the eyes of our kids when they find out what we've been feeding them. Messy subject really. Which is why it's easy for most folk to ignore it completely... like all difficult subjects I suppose. Andrew McP

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:12:05 +0200, Stephen Ferguson wrote: > The only reason I made the decision to switch my buying habits was because > of reading a few books like "Diet for a Small Planet", or seeing > documentaries about agricultural practices which I didn't know about. Hi Stephen, thanks for your interesting post. May I suggest Dan Quinn's book "Ishmael" to you? He has some very interesting ideas just how totalitarian agriculture brought us were we are right now ("us" being the global taker culture as he puts it to which 99.999 of all humans belong to at the moment). Some of his stuff can be had online at http://www.ishmael.org/ Cheers, Uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

David, do you also support Abortion? "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy Idecided > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it's generally awaste > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the truth,and > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions of eyes thanto > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever admit to > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always been people like > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) I won't even > waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just let themyell > at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them, it'sreally > very funny actually. > > As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in a "big > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn their > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We are just > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully hiddenfrom > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's certainly > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic, andmaking > them available, is the most important thing someone can do. > > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and throughcorporations > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are horriffic. > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls. We try to > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the lying > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations have spent > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure that > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefullyconstructed, > cute, funny commercials and advertisements. We show men, women andchildren

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> the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures from > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and nothing > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's who've > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades. > > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no idea" after > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the country and

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> truth/reality. :-) > > -- > David G Fisher > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2RJCc.77161$[email hidden]... > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore and

aunt > no > > movie ever gonna change that. Rabbit food is just that... > > > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone elsepushing > > their views on me and others. This is what Mike Moore and JosephGoebles > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda. > > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and wesure

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> > don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed with > alcohol, > > whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see a revolution :) > > > > Man, you sure you're not from California? > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:EymCc.74499$2i5.57568@attbi_s52... > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real gas to > hang > > > out > > > > with. > > > > You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad sandwich ? > > > > Lighten up, Francis. > > > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad. > > > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things) shows people > the > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals suffer > > through > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still images > from > > > inside those torture chambers. > > > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, and > realize > > > that they are responsible. > > > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you. > > > -- > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Francis? I don't get it. Anyway, I agree that the sentiment of banning is over the top, but kicking the Wests over their dead cat still seems abusive. It seems to me that partsguy might need to lighten up too. I think that animals don't have the same level of mental processes as humans, and too often we unfairly project how we as humans would feel if we were in their shoes when they suffer. Still, pets are dear family members to some and their deaths effect the family. Respect that. Or don't. Your call. "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<TlLCc.80061$2i5.44464@attbi_s52>...

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> Where did i say i had a problem with vegetarians, Davy ? > Sarcasm is a form of expression, not a life decision, such as vegans or the > gay/lesbian thing. Life is short, and i dont have time to wonder what > fucking path everyone is walking. If i offended, im sorry. But the truth is, > i couldnt care if folks eat trees, beavers, or stardust. > I wont bore you with what goals i have in life, because i know you're to > busy to care for the most part what the hell everyone else thinks as well. > Or i should hope so anyway. > I dont know you, so i dont know why you picked me for this lovely diatribe. > I wasnt addressing you, so i'm twice as stumped here... > So, to pass on the same good advice as Simpy there: Lighten up, Francis...

"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<2RJCc.77161$[email hidden]>... > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and we sure > don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed with alcohol, > whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see a revolution :) You're kidding, right? You trying to tell me that it's a *bad* thing to know that cigarettes are bad for you? And what's the "gay" inclusion about? You homophobic? Not comfortable enough with your own sexuallity to live and let live...? Head in the sand. That's the answer...

Its not bad to "know" but it is bad when it's forced upon you. If you disagree fine, but don't punish me because someone else doesn't like it. I don't smoke and Im not a homophobe but the last thing we need is someone "legislating" whether I should or shouldnt. It's my choice to act based on my OWN opinion. My point here is our so-called freedom is being eroded from every direction already and this could turn out to be just another nail in the coffin of true choice/freedom. Mitch "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<2RJCc.77161$[email hidden]>... > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and wesure > > don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed withalcohol,

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> > whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see a revolution :) > > You're kidding, right? > > You trying to tell me that it's a *bad* thing to know that cigarettes > are bad for you? And what's the "gay" inclusion about? You > homophobic? Not comfortable enough with your own sexuallity to live > and let live...? > > Head in the sand. That's the answer... >

simpson wrote: > Francis? I don't get it. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0083131/ :) -Will

I've lost two Golden Retrievers so far in my life, and I had to take off work both times. -Larry "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On 23 Jun 2004 10:07:46 -0700, simpson wrote: > > Pretty poor taste of you guys. I'm sure that the cat was considered a > > family member. Remember that the next time a relative of yours dies > > and people poke fun at you, no matter what your shortcomings are. > > Actually, on second thought, I can well relate. Our cat lucy died a > couple of years ago, and both my son and me cried like babies when we > took her from the pet doc who'd help her pass on to the other side, > then burying her in my in-law's garden (they say cat's graves make for > great roses). I even put up an obituary (now, did I spell that > correctly?) at http://www.schuerkamp.de/hoover/lucy/ > > But still, whenever I feel sorry about the death of a cat, I remind > myself of the many creatures she / he has put to death in the most > cruelly, even playsome, kind of way, leaving them for us to finish off > without so much as a glance to the side when she walked past. How does > it feel to kill a little bird fallen from its nest by putting a bloody > spade through its neck? Have you ever watched those tiny wings > fluttering when death cometh? > > You know, sometimes it's everybody's turn, be it bird, mouse, cat or > human. There comes a time when it's time to give back to the community > of life on this planet, which you have eaten through without doing so > much as thinking about it, for all your life. > > I attended a funeral today of a relative (not cat), so these thoughts > are in my head at the moment. > > Cheers, > > uwe > > > -- > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Gee, Dave. We've ALWAYS known that :) -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'm a "veggie".

"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FUXCc.1167$[email hidden]... > Its not bad to "know" but it is bad when it's forced upon you. If you > disagree fine, but don't punish me because someone else doesn't like it.I > don't smoke and Im not a homophobe but the last thing we need is someone > "legislating" whether I should or shouldnt. It's my choice to act basedon > my OWN opinion. My point here is our so-called freedom is being erodedfrom > every direction already and this could turn out to be just another nail in > the coffin of true choice/freedom. So what's gay got to do with freedom? Mark

Why do you want to know that? -- David G Fisher "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > David, do you also support Abortion? > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy I > decided > > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it's generally a > waste > > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the truth, > and > > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions of eyes than > to > > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever admit to > > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always been people like > > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) I won't even > > waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just let them > yell > > at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them, it's > really > > very funny actually. > > > > As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in a "big > > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn their > > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We are just > > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully hidden > from > > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's certainly > > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic, and > making > > them available, is the most important thing someone can do. > > > > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through > corporations > > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are horriffic. > > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls. We try to > > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the lying > > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations have spent > > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure that > > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully > constructed, > > cute, funny commercials and advertisements. We show men, women and > children > > the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures from > > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and nothing > > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's who've > > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades. > > > > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no idea" after > > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the country and > as > > visible as possible very soon. > > > > Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have trouble > with > > truth/reality. :-) > > > > -- > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:2RJCc.77161$[email hidden]... > > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore and > aunt > > no > > > movie ever gonna change that. Rabbit food is just that... > > > > > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone else > pushing > > > their views on me and others. This is what Mike Moore and Joseph > Goebles > > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda. > > > > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and we > sure > > > don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed with > > alcohol, > > > whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see a revolution :) > > > > > > Man, you sure you're not from California? > > > > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:EymCc.74499$2i5.57568@attbi_s52... > > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real gas to > > hang > > > > out > > > > > with. > > > > > You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad sandwich ? > > > > > Lighten up, Francis. > > > > > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad. > > > > > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things) shows people > > the > > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals suffer > > > through > > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still images > > from > > > > inside those torture chambers. > > > > > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, and > > realize > > > > that they are responsible. > > > > > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you. > > > > -- > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Oh come now David, I would hope it is obvious :) I am just hoping you are consistent in your beliefs. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Why do you want to know that? > -- > David G Fisher > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > David, do you also support Abortion? > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy I > > decided > > > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it's generally a > > waste > > > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the

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> > and > > > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions of eyes > than > > to > > > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever admit > to > > > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always been people

like > > > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) I won'teven > > > waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just letthem

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> > yell > > > at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them, it's > > really > > > very funny actually. > > > > > > As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in a > "big > > > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn

their

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> > > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We are > just > > > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully hidden > > from > > > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's certainly > > > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic, and > > making > > > them available, is the most important thing someone can do. > > > > > > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through > > corporations > > > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are > horriffic. > > > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls. We

try > to > > > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of thelying > > > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations have > spent > > > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making surethat > > > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully > > constructed, > > > cute, funny commercials and advertisements. We show men, women and > > children > > > the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures from > > > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth andnothing > > > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one'swho've

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> > > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades. > > > > > > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no idea" > after > > > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the country > and > > as > > > visible as possible very soon. > > > > > > Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have trouble > > with > > > truth/reality. :-) > > > > > > -- > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:2RJCc.77161$[email hidden]... > > > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore and > > aunt > > > no > > > > movie ever gonna change that. Rabbit food is just that... > > > > > > > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone else > > pushing > > > > their views on me and others. This is what Mike Moore and Joseph > > Goebles > > > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda. > > > > > > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and we > > sure > > > > don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed with > > > alcohol, > > > > whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see a revolution

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> > > > > > > > Man, you sure you're not from California? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:EymCc.74499$2i5.57568@attbi_s52... > > > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real gas > to > > > hang > > > > > out > > > > > > with. > > > > > > You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad

sandwich

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> ? > > > > > > Lighten up, Francis. > > > > > > > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad. > > > > > > > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things) shows > people > > > the > > > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals

suffer > > > > through > > > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and stillimages

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> > > from > > > > > inside those torture chambers. > > > > > > > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, and > > > realize > > > > > that they are responsible. > > > > > > > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you. > > > > > -- > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

The two subjects aren't related. I don't believe in the horriffic torture and nightmarish slaughtering of any animal, including human animals. Haven't seen too many factory farms where 25 billion human babies per year are "processed" to be sold for a profit, and then eaten. David G Fisher "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Oh come now David, I would hope it is obvious :) > > I am just hoping you are consistent in your beliefs. > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Why do you want to know that? > > -- > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > David, do you also support Abortion? > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy I > > > decided > > > > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it's generally

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> > > waste > > > > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the > truth, > > > and > > > > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions of eyes > > than > > > to > > > > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever

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> > to > > > > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always been people > like > > > > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) I won't > even > > > > waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just let > them > > > yell > > > > at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them,

it's

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> > > really > > > > very funny actually. > > > > > > > > As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in a > > "big > > > > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn > their > > > > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We

are > > just > > > > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefullyhidden > > > from > > > > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There'scertainly > > > > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic,and

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> > > making > > > > them available, is the most important thing someone can do. > > > > > > > > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through > > > corporations > > > > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are > > horriffic. > > > > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls. We > try > > to > > > > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the > lying > > > > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations have > > spent > > > > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure > that > > > > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully > > > constructed, > > > > cute, funny commercials and advertisements. We show men, women and > > > children > > > > the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures

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> > > > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and > nothing > > > > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's > who've > > > > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades. > > > > > > > > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no idea" > > after > > > > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the

country > > and > > > as > > > > visible as possible very soon. > > > > > > > > Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and havetrouble

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> > > with > > > > truth/reality. :-) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:2RJCc.77161$[email hidden]... > > > > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore

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> > > aunt > > > > no > > > > > movie ever gonna change that. Rabbit food is just that... > > > > > > > > > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone else > > > pushing > > > > > their views on me and others. This is what Mike Moore and Joseph > > > Goebles > > > > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda. > > > > > > > > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and

we > > > sure > > > > > don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failedwith

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> > > > alcohol, > > > > > whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see a revolution > :) > > > > > > > > > > Man, you sure you're not from California? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:EymCc.74499$2i5.57568@attbi_s52... > > > > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real

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> > to > > > > hang > > > > > > out > > > > > > > with. > > > > > > > You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad > sandwich > > ? > > > > > > > Lighten up, Francis. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things) shows > > people > > > > the > > > > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals > suffer > > > > > through > > > > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still > images > > > > from > > > > > > inside those torture chambers. > > > > > > > > > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth,

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> > > > realize > > > > > > that they are responsible. > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

So it would be different to you if only several million animals were processed on factory farms per year? And to make it better, they would be processed for a profit and then NOT eaten? "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The two subjects aren't related. I don't believe in the horriffic torture > and nightmarish slaughtering of any animal, including human animals.Haven't

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> seen too many factory farms where 25 billion human babies per year are > "processed" to be sold for a profit, and then eaten. > > David G Fisher > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Oh come now David, I would hope it is obvious :) > > > > I am just hoping you are consistent in your beliefs. > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Why do you want to know that? > > > -- > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > David, do you also support Abortion? > > > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy

I > > > > decided > > > > > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it'sgenerally > a > > > > waste > > > > > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the > > truth, > > > > and > > > > > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions ofeyes > > > than > > > > to > > > > > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever > admit > > > to > > > > > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always beenpeople > > like > > > > > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) Iwon't

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> > even > > > > > waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just let > > them > > > > yell > > > > > at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them, > it's > > > > really > > > > > very funny actually. > > > > > > > > > > As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in

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> > > "big > > > > > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn > > their > > > > > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We > are > > > just > > > > > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully > hidden > > > > from > > > > > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's > certainly > > > > > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic, > and > > > > making > > > > > them available, is the most important thing someone can do. > > > > > > > > > > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through > > > > corporations > > > > > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are > > > horriffic. > > > > > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls.

We > > try > > > to > > > > > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the > > lying > > > > > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporationshave

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> > > spent > > > > > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure > > that > > > > > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully > > > > constructed, > > > > > cute, funny commercials and advertisements. We show men, women and > > > > children > > > > > the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures > from > > > > > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and > > nothing > > > > > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's > > who've > > > > > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades. > > > > > > > > > > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no

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> > > after > > > > > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the > country > > > and > > > > as > > > > > visible as possible very soon. > > > > > > > > > > Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have > trouble > > > > with > > > > > truth/reality. :-) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:2RJCc.77161$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore > and > > > > aunt > > > > > no > > > > > > movie ever gonna change that. Rabbit food is just that... > > > > > > > > > > > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone

else > > > > pushing > > > > > > their views on me and others. This is what Mike Moore andJoseph > > > > Goebles > > > > > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side alreadyand > we > > > > sure > > > > > > don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed > with > > > > > alcohol, > > > > > > whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see arevolution

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> > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Man, you sure you're not from California? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:EymCc.74499$2i5.57568@attbi_s52... > > > > > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real > gas > > > to > > > > > hang > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > with. > > > > > > > > You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad > > sandwich > > > ? > > > > > > > > Lighten up, Francis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things)

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> > > people > > > > > the > > > > > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals > > suffer > > > > > > through > > > > > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still > > images > > > > > from > > > > > > > inside those torture chambers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, > and > > > > > realize > > > > > > > that they are responsible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

BTW, the topics are absolutely related :) "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The two subjects aren't related. I don't believe in the horriffic torture > and nightmarish slaughtering of any animal, including human animals.Haven't

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> seen too many factory farms where 25 billion human babies per year are > "processed" to be sold for a profit, and then eaten. > > David G Fisher > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Oh come now David, I would hope it is obvious :) > > > > I am just hoping you are consistent in your beliefs. > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Why do you want to know that? > > > -- > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > David, do you also support Abortion? > > > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy

I > > > > decided > > > > > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it'sgenerally > a > > > > waste > > > > > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the > > truth, > > > > and > > > > > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions ofeyes > > > than > > > > to > > > > > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever > admit > > > to > > > > > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always beenpeople > > like > > > > > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) Iwon't

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> > > "big > > > > > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn > > their > > > > > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We > are > > > just > > > > > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully > hidden > > > > from > > > > > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's > certainly > > > > > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic, > and > > > > making > > > > > them available, is the most important thing someone can do. > > > > > > > > > > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through > > > > corporations > > > > > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are > > > horriffic. > > > > > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls.

We > > try > > > to > > > > > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the > > lying > > > > > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporationshave

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> > > spent > > > > > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure > > that > > > > > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully > > > > constructed, > > > > > cute, funny commercials and advertisements. We show men, women and > > > > children > > > > > the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures > from > > > > > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and > > nothing > > > > > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's > > who've > > > > > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades. > > > > > > > > > > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no

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> > > after > > > > > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the > country > > > and > > > > as > > > > > visible as possible very soon. > > > > > > > > > > Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have > trouble > > > > with > > > > > truth/reality. :-) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:2RJCc.77161$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore > and > > > > aunt > > > > > no > > > > > > movie ever gonna change that. Rabbit food is just that... > > > > > > > > > > > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone

else > > > > pushing > > > > > > their views on me and others. This is what Mike Moore andJoseph > > > > Goebles > > > > > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side alreadyand > we > > > > sure > > > > > > don't need any more. Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed > with > > > > > alcohol, > > > > > > whats next? Outlaw McDonalds? That's when we'll see arevolution

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> > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Man, you sure you're not from California? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:EymCc.74499$2i5.57568@attbi_s52... > > > > > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real > gas > > > to > > > > > hang > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > with. > > > > > > > > You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad > > sandwich > > > ? > > > > > > > > Lighten up, Francis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things)

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> > > people > > > > > the > > > > > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals > > suffer > > > > > > through > > > > > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still > > images > > > > > from > > > > > > > inside those torture chambers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, > and > > > > > realize > > > > > > > that they are responsible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >