NASCAR 2 Track Pack

Was surprised to see EB mention a NASCAR2 TRACK PACK on upcoming releases. (Due date 1 May 97) Hmmm, wonder what tracks might be in there? Texas very likely, maybe the late 97 season new Atlanta configuration. A pack for just two tracks seems a bit thin though. Anyone know if Sega ***ping of Daytona's good name is over by May? Steve

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> Was surprised to see EB mention a NASCAR2 TRACK PACK on upcoming > releases. (Due date 1 May 97) Hmmm, wonder what tracks might be in > there? Texas very likely, maybe the late 97 season new Atlanta > configuration. A pack for just two tracks seems a bit thin though. > Anyone know if Sega ***ping of Daytona's good name is over by May? > Steve

2 tracks, some patches, and hopefully a dos terminal for the NRO. :) Mick in Tampa -- Mike Schreiner [link lost in import] #3 = #8 in '97!!!!!!!!!!!!

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> Was surprised to see EB mention a NASCAR2 TRACK PACK on upcoming > releases. (Due date 1 May 97) Hmmm, wonder what tracks might be in > there? Texas very likely, maybe the late 97 season new Atlanta > configuration. A pack for just two tracks seems a bit thin though. > Anyone know if Sega ***ping of Daytona's good name is over by May? > Steve

Steve- Sega's contract for Daytona is over in Spring '97 so I look for the Track Pack to have the following: Darlington (switched front & back stretch) Daytona Texas Las Vegas California Atlanta (new config.) Derek

Hopefully they'll have both California and Texas. MAYBE a "Busch Track Pack" with the Busch tracks such as Milwaukee, Hickory, etc. that the WC cars don't run but that it'd be cool to run anyway (hey, the name is NASCAR racing, not Winston Cup racing)

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> Was surprised to see EB mention a NASCAR2 TRACK PACK on upcoming > releases. (Due date 1 May 97) Hmmm, wonder what tracks might be in > there? Texas very likely, maybe the late 97 season new Atlanta > configuration. A pack for just two tracks seems a bit thin though. > Anyone know if Sega ***ping of Daytona's good name is over by May? > Steve

Where did you see EB mention a track pack? Was just at the EB web site and I did'nt see anything of the sort. Also, with Papy's history for attention to detail, I don't expect to see Texas or California anytime soon. They will wait until the races are run there first so that they can talk to the drivers and learn as much about the tracks as they can. As for Daytona or even Indy, it's all about legalites... Some people say that Sega has the rights to Daytona for three years, so that would rule that out. As far as Indy, I guess it's Tony George's decision to let Papyrus release it or not. I'm not holding my breath, just enjoying what we already have! Jeffrey Lipack

On Sat, 01 Feb 1997 23:15:20 -0600, Derek Pease

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>> Was surprised to see EB mention a NASCAR2 TRACK PACK on upcoming >> releases. (Due date 1 May 97) Hmmm, wonder what tracks might be in >> there? Texas very likely, maybe the late 97 season new Atlanta >> configuration. A pack for just two tracks seems a bit thin though. >> Anyone know if Sega ***ping of Daytona's good name is over by May? >> Steve >Steve- >Sega's contract for Daytona is over in Spring '97 so I look for the >Track Pack to have the following: >Darlington (switched front & back stretch) >Daytona >Texas >Las Vegas >California >Atlanta (new config.) > Derek

Although Sega's contract runs out this year, don't they have the ability to extend the contract? I'm not sure if Papyrus would bother to re-release Darlington with the start/finish line on the opposite straightaway. Ditto for Atlanta. Particularly since NASCAR 2 was based on the 1996 season. Las Vegas? Although the Super Trucks and BGN cars (I think) are planning to run there, the Winston Cuppers don't even have that track on the 1997 schedule. Although the sim can be tuned to run a Super Truck or BGN series, support from Papyrus seems to be strictly for the WC series and the track on the WC schedule. I'd like to see California and/or Texas as much as the next guy, but echoing another post in this same thread, Papyrus can't really create a realistic interpretation of either of them until they talk to the drivers after they've run on the two new tracks. Besides, I think this whole Track Pack thing is a misunderstanding. The person who saw it (IF they saw it) in some form of EB promotional material probably saw the NASCAR 1 Track Pack. I would like to see some new tracks, though. Kyle Langston _________________________________ http://www.traction.git.net/nrcentral/

<snip> : As for Daytona or even Indy, it's all about legalites... Some people say : that Sega has the rights to Daytona for three years, so that would rule : that out. As far as Indy, I guess it's Tony George's decision to let : Papyrus release it or not. I'm not holding my breath, just enjoying what : we already have! If we see an Indy track that "could" only mean that we won't see any more CART based sims from Papyrus, only IRL based. Of course with Sony suposedly having a exclusive licensing agreement with CART... -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

> Hopefully they'll have both California and Texas. MAYBE a "Busch Track > Pack" with the Busch tracks such as Milwaukee, Hickory, etc. that the > WC cars don't run but that it'd be cool to run anyway (hey, the name > is NASCAR racing, not Winston Cup racing) Here's a hell of an idea! He's right...it IS called NASCAR Racing 2, not "Winston Cup 2". I'd love to be able to run Hickory, Orange County, South Boston, Myrtle Beach, Milwaukee (although you CAN convert this to N1 from ICR2), Nazareth (ditto), Volusia County (my "home" track)....

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> Besides, I think this whole Track Pack thing is a misunderstanding. > The person who saw it (IF they saw it) in some form of EB promotional > material probably saw the NASCAR 1 Track Pack. > I would like to see some new tracks, though. > Kyle Langston

Nope, not an a misunderstanding. It would be even dumber of Papyrus/Sierra to reintroduce the track pack when every 'Sierra' labeled box of Nascar 1 had all the tracks included. The upcoming release list most definitely had 'N2 Track Pack' listed along with 1 May 97 for the anticipated release date. The list should be in the book of 'Upcoming Releases' at your local EB by now. Steve

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> Steve > Where did you see EB mention a track pack? Was just at the EB web site > and I did'nt see anything of the sort. Also, with Papy's history for > attention to detail, I don't expect to see Texas or California anytime > soon. They will wait until the races are run there first so that they > can talk to the drivers and learn as much about the tracks as they can. > As for Daytona or even Indy, it's all about legalites... Some people say > that Sega has the rights to Daytona for three years, so that would rule > that out. As far as Indy, I guess it's Tony George's decision to let > Papyrus release it or not. I'm not holding my breath, just enjoying what > we already have!

Jeff, Saw the info in new sheets for the 'Upcoming Releases' book that's kept at each EB. Steve

Now wait a minute...are you saying that Sega actually DIDN'T get the rights to Daytona for 3 more years, as was previously reported here? What is your source on that?

> Hopefully they'll have both California and Texas. MAYBE a "Busch Track > Pack" with the Busch tracks such as Milwaukee, Hickory, etc. that the > WC cars don't run but that it'd be cool to run anyway (hey, the name > is NASCAR racing, not Winston Cup racing) Why not the CASCAR tracks, and the F1 tracks, and the CART tracks, and the IRL tracks, and the F3000 tracks, and the Formula Atlantic tracks, and the Sprint tracks, and the drag tracks, and the Kart tracks, and the Nascar Trucks tracks!: :) Just kidding. I think they have better work to do then to make tracks. Fix the bugs and after if there's time left make some tracks. Good race at the Brickyard. [===] Go R. Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve, | ! | And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is |!| from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le |o| Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. [--I--] v Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand" Nicolas Mnard "Nien Numb" Nien Numb in the National Star Wars League(X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter league) http://www.dakotacom.net/~strange/ http://www.starwars.com/ Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition,N2,Gp2,Icr2.How can my life be better? May the force be with you, always!! Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!(for you French people) Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking)

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> > Hopefully they'll have both California and Texas. MAYBE a "Busch Track > > Pack" with the Busch tracks such as Milwaukee, Hickory, etc. that the > > WC cars don't run but that it'd be cool to run anyway (hey, the name > > is NASCAR racing, not Winston Cup racing) > Here's a hell of an idea! He's right...it IS called NASCAR Racing 2, > not "Winston Cup 2". I'd love to be able to run Hickory, Orange County, > South Boston, Myrtle Beach, Milwaukee (although you CAN convert this to > N1 from ICR2), Nazareth (ditto), Volusia County (my "home" track)....

Hickory in a 3500 lb 700 Horsepower engine. I don't think so. Papyrus should offer a true BGN car; less HP, lighter, shorter wheelbase. Then give us Hickory, Nazareth, South Boston, etc. BTW, this suggestion has already been submitted to Papyrus. You may want to voice your support for it in N3, now. David Martin

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>> Hopefully they'll have both California and Texas. MAYBE a "Busch Track >> Pack" with the Busch tracks such as Milwaukee, Hickory, etc. that the >> WC cars don't run but that it'd be cool to run anyway (hey, the name >> is NASCAR racing, not Winston Cup racing) >Why not the CASCAR tracks, and the F1 tracks, and the CART tracks, and >the IRL tracks, and the F3000 tracks, and the Formula Atlantic tracks, >and the Sprint tracks, and the drag tracks, and the Kart tracks, and the >Nascar Trucks tracks!: :) Just kidding. I think they have better >work to do then to make tracks. Fix the bugs and after if there's time >left make some tracks. Good race at the Brickyard.

I just wanted to point out that that's really two different groups of people (engineers vs artists). The artists don't really have any "bugs" to fix, so they could (in a theoretical sense) work on tracks while engineers (in a theoretical sense) worked on the patch(es). ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

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>>> Hopefully they'll have both California and Texas. MAYBE a "Busch Track >>> Pack" with the Busch tracks such as Milwaukee, Hickory, etc. that the >>> WC cars don't run but that it'd be cool to run anyway (hey, the name >>> is NASCAR racing, not Winston Cup racing) >>Why not the CASCAR tracks, and the F1 tracks, and the CART tracks, and >>the IRL tracks, and the F3000 tracks, and the Formula Atlantic tracks, >>and the Sprint tracks, and the drag tracks, and the Kart tracks, and the >>Nascar Trucks tracks!: :) Just kidding. I think they have better >>work to do then to make tracks. Fix the bugs and after if there's time >>left make some tracks. Good race at the Brickyard. >I just wanted to point out that that's really two different groups of >people (engineers vs artists). The artists don't really have any >"bugs" to fix, so they could (in a theoretical sense) work on tracks >while engineers (in a theoretical sense) worked on the patch(es). >---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

O.K. Jim, Just wink if there really is a track pack comming out in May. Please Thanks , MJN

Guys, guys, guys, lets not forget that a full install is already 100megs. If we ad BGN and 20 new tracks and everything else on everyones wishlist, we'll need a dedicated hd just for N2 -- "You stick to driving your typewriter and I'll stick to driving the racecars"-Freejack David W. McFarland '87 LX hatch

So, what's your point? ;-)

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>Guys, guys, guys, lets not forget that a full install is already >100megs. If we ad BGN and 20 new tracks and everything else on >everyones wishlist, we'll need a dedicated hd just for N2 >-- >"You stick to driving your typewriter and I'll stick to driving the >racecars"-Freejack >David W. McFarland >'87 LX hatch

What's your point? :-)

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> Guys, guys, guys, lets not forget that a full install is already > 100megs. If we ad BGN and 20 new tracks and everything else on > everyones wishlist, we'll need a dedicated hd just for N2 > -- > "You stick to driving your typewriter and I'll stick to driving the > racecars"-Freejack > David W. McFarland > '87 LX hatch

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> What's your point? :-) > > Guys, guys, guys, lets not forget that a full install is already > > 100megs. If we ad BGN and 20 new tracks and everything else on > > everyones wishlist, we'll need a dedicated hd just for N2 > > -- > > "You stick to driving your typewriter and I'll stick to driving the > > racecars"-Freejack > > David W. McFarland > > '87 LX hatch

And you don't! LOL. :-)) :-)

> Was surprised to see EB mention a NASCAR2 TRACK PACK on upcoming > releases. (Due date 1 May 97) Hmmm, wonder what tracks might be in > there? Texas very likely, maybe the late 97 season new Atlanta > configuration. A pack for just two tracks seems a bit thin though. they could include 2 fantasy tracks (not ovals!) they prepared for the PLAYSTATION VERSION... Daytona, Indianapolis, Texas + 2 fantasy tracks... total 5 tracks! Ciao!

Like a Syjet or a Jaz ? Great Idea for all those games that take up a lot of space! And if you load to a removable disk the games won't overwrite your drivers. -- " Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" > Guys, guys, guys, lets not forget that a full install is already > 100megs. If we ad BGN and 20 new tracks and everything else on > everyones wishlist, we'll need a dedicated hd just for N2 > -- > "You stick to driving your typewriter and I'll stick to driving the > racecars"-Freejack > David W. McFarland > '87 LX hatch

I'll just be glad when this gets straightened out once and for all, sheesh, miss the group for 3 months and it's still Daytona this, Texas that. I just wanna go raceing :) Ron

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>Was surprised to see EB mention a NASCAR2 TRACK PACK on upcoming >releases. (Due date 1 May 97) Hmmm, wonder what tracks might be in >there? Texas very likely, maybe the late 97 season new Atlanta >configuration. A pack for just two tracks seems a bit thin though. >Anyone know if Sega ***ping of Daytona's good name is over by May? >Steve

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Heh, I've got my new P200 with 64ram *and* 2.54 gig of HD, *Bring It On* :) Ron

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>Guys, guys, guys, lets not forget that a full install is already >100megs. If we ad BGN and 20 new tracks and everything else on >everyones wishlist, we'll need a dedicated hd just for N2 >-- >"You stick to driving your typewriter and I'll stick to driving the >racecars"-Freejack >David W. McFarland >'87 LX hatch

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Not to mention Portland Speedway in Portland Oregon. Ron

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>> Hopefully they'll have both California and Texas. MAYBE a "Busch Track >> Pack" with the Busch tracks such as Milwaukee, Hickory, etc. that the >> WC cars don't run but that it'd be cool to run anyway (hey, the name >> is NASCAR racing, not Winston Cup racing) > Here's a hell of an idea! He's right...it IS called NASCAR Racing 2, >not "Winston Cup 2". I'd love to be able to run Hickory, Orange County, >South Boston, Myrtle Beach, Milwaukee (although you CAN convert this to >N1 from ICR2), Nazareth (ditto), Volusia County (my "home" track)....

*********************************************** ** Keep the shiny side up & the hammer down ** *** Ron Riekens II *** **** Co-Owner - Driver **** **** Maui Sunshine Raceing/*** Photography **** *** NASS BGN Series #97 Pontiac *** ***********************************************

Also did you notice what is listed right underneath Nascar 2 Track Pack? A Nascar Manager, scheduled for release 9/1/97..

> >I just wanted to point out that that's really two different groups of > >people (engineers vs artists). The artists don't really have any > >"bugs" to fix, so they could (in a theoretical sense) work on tracks > >while engineers (in a theoretical sense) worked on the patch(es). > >---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus So what your saying is that artist AND engineers are working on the N2patch. So in the patch they will be ubbugged features by the engineers AND new tracks by the artists. Is this a sort of double meaning of you're post? You write clues in your posts for the incomming N2 patch! And why the (es) at the end of patch. Is this a double-meaning that they will be more than 1 patch for the game? Don't stop the hard work Jim! :) Good race at the Brickyard, [===] Go Rubens Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve, | ! | And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is |!| from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le |o| Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. [--I--] v Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand" Nicolas Mnard "Nien Numb" Nien Numb in the National Star Wars League(X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter league) http://www.dakotacom.net/~strange/ http://www.starwars.com/ Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition,N2,Gp2,Icr2.How can my life be better? May the force be with you, always!! Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!(for you French people) Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking)

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>> > Guys, guys, guys, lets not forget that a full install is already >> > 100megs. If we ad BGN and 20 new tracks and everything else on >> > everyones wishlist, we'll need a dedicated hd just for N2 >> > -- >> > "You stick to driving your typewriter and I'll stick to driving the >> > racecars"-Freejack >> > David W. McFarland

And what's your poing? ;) I've got a spare gig here looking to be filled up, and I want to do it before the next great computer upgrade!

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> >> > Guys, guys, guys, lets not forget that a full install is already > >> > 100megs. If we ad BGN and 20 new tracks and everything else on > >> > everyones wishlist, we'll need a dedicated hd just for N2 > >> > -- > >> > "You stick to driving your typewriter and I'll stick to driving the > >> > racecars"-Freejack > >> > David W. McFarland > And what's your poing? ;) > I've got a spare gig here looking to be filled up, and I want to do it > before the next great computer upgrade!

That's nothing...My Links LS directory takes up 228MB!!!