Full-length GP on July 4?

I was thinking about hosting a race using the TPTCC at Silverstone. 80 laps is a full race in GPL, is that a reasonable race length in N2k3? Practice would probably start at about 10am, to give people time to watch F1. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

"EldredP" wrote... > I was thinking about hosting a race using the TPTCC at > Silverstone. 80 laps is a full race in GPL, is that a > reasonable race length in N2k3? It's longer than I really want to run these cars for (which is zero laps), but I"m in for old times sake... I'll be using the Chevy I ran in RASCAR. > Practice would probably start at about 10am, to give > people time to watch F1. Good thing you said "watch" instead of "enjoy". <g> Jan. =---

I'll join in. 100% race with the TPTCC mod is 74 laps. David G Fisher "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I was thinking about hosting a race using the TPTCC at Silverstone. 80laps is > a full race in GPL, is that a reasonable race length in N2k3? > Practice would probably start at about 10am, to give people time to watchF1.

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On 02 Jul 2004 19:51:35 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >I was thinking about hosting a race using the TPTCC at Silverstone. 80 laps is >a full race in GPL, is that a reasonable race length in N2k3? >Practice would probably start at about 10am, to give people time to watch F1. 10 EST? I'm in.

"Jan Verschueren" wrote... > > <snip> Ok, problem: TPTCC v2.4 crashes NR2003 to desktop... any ideas? Jan. =---

Open setups or fixed setup? "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I was thinking about hosting a race using the TPTCC at Silverstone. 80laps is > a full race in GPL, is that a reasonable race length in N2k3? > Practice would probably start at about 10am, to give people time to watchF1.

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Jan Verschueren wrote: > > "Jan Verschueren" wrote... > > > <snip> > > Ok, problem: TPTCC v2.4 crashes NR2003 to desktop... any ideas? If 2.3 works for you it's MP compatible with 2.4 as far as I know As for the crashing....OGL or D3D ? If memory serves me right, a few people have had issues with 2.4 in OGL and switched to D3D and this fixed it, some people have had to reinstall the TPTCC from scratch Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

7am pst Sunday. Not me ;) "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 02 Jul 2004 19:51:35 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > >I was thinking about hosting a race using the TPTCC at Silverstone. 80laps is > >a full race in GPL, is that a reasonable race length in N2k3? > >Practice would probably start at about 10am, to give people time to watchF1. > > 10 EST? I'm in.

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 11:24:43 -0400, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Open setups or fixed setup? Also, is this Silverstone or Silverstone_PWF? (and I'll marry you if it's open sets)

Do you really think he want to marry YOU? ;) "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > (and I'll marry you if it's open sets)

Do you really think he want to marry YOU? ;) > (and I'll marry you if it's open sets)

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>>Open setups or fixed setup? > >Also, is this Silverstone or Silverstone_PWF? > >(and I'll marry you if it's open sets) > >

Silverstone_PWF, open setups, 10 am eastern And sorry Jason, I'm spoken for...<g> Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

>I'll join in. > >100% race with the TPTCC mod is 74 laps. > Ok, I guess I better get busy and configure my machine. That's what I get for not thinking of asking earlier in the week... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

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>> Ok, problem: TPTCC v2.4 crashes NR2003 to desktop... any ideas? > >If 2.3 works for you it's MP compatible with 2.4 as far as I know > >As for the crashing....OGL or D3D ? > >If memory serves me right, a few people have had issues with 2.4 in OGL >and switched to D3D and this fixed it, some people have had to reinstall >the TPTCC from scratch >

If the server is only 2.3, are all the 2.4 clients compatible? Not sure which way the compatibility goes... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

Sounds fun! Wish I could make it. Good luck all. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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On 03 Jul 2004 22:43:20 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >Silverstone_PWF, open setups, 10 am eastern >And sorry Jason, I'm spoken for...<g> I'll take a rain check then. =p

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:snzFc.173289$[email hidden]:

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> "Jan Verschueren" wrote... >> > <snip> > > Ok, problem: TPTCC v2.4 crashes NR2003 to desktop... any ideas? > > Jan. > =--- > >

Did you skip any of the other 2.x updates? V2.4 needs the previous installs to work. I 'assume' v3 will be fully stand alone. dh

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in news:[email hidden]: > If the server is only 2.3, are all the 2.4 clients compatible? Not > sure which way the compatibility goes... > > Eldred 2.x should all be compatible. other whole number versions will not be. so 1.1 is not good but 2.3 and 2.4 should be compatible...provided, of course, that 2.4 has been properly updated with the previous 2.x updates. dh

Houston, we have a problem... I loaded the TPTCC mod and the Silverstone track on the server. However, I don't know how to make it switch to the mod remotely. I can't just run N2k3, since there's no CD in the drive. So, the PlayerPicker program won't run. Had I realized that earlier, I could have brought the CD to work, run N2k3, and switched. I assume it would work then. D3Mons runs, but it only selects the Cup cars. Ideas? Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

"Dave Henrie" wrote... > > <snip> > Did you skip any of the other 2.x updates? V2.4 > needs the previous installs to work. I 'assume' v3 > will be fully stand alone. I upgraded from v2.1, which, according to the site, should have been possible. I'll back-up the cars and try a fresh v2.3 install later. Jan. =---

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> Houston, we have a problem... > > I loaded the TPTCC mod and the Silverstone track on the server. However, I > don't know how to make it switch to the mod remotely. I can't just run N2k3, > since there's no CD in the drive. So, the PlayerPicker program won't run. Had > I realized that earlier, I could have brought the CD to work, run N2k3, and > switched. I assume it would work then. D3Mons runs, but it only selects the > Cup cars. Ideas? > > Eldred >

Eldred, DeMONS allows you to select any mod that is currently installed in the sim on a race-by-race basis. Make sure that: 1) The tptcc mod is indeed installed on the server 2) You're running the latest version of D3.

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>Eldred, DeMONS allows you to select any mod that is currently installed >in the sim on a race-by-race basis. > >Make sure that: > >1) The tptcc mod is indeed installed on the server > >2) You're running the latest version of D3.

Thanks for the reply, John. I had an older version of D3 installed. Testing the new version now... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

>Thanks for the reply, John. I had an older version of D3 installed. Testing >the new version now... Ok, that was it. Server is set to start at 10am. Server: RAS Password: ras I'm using an old RASCAR invite list just in case any previous drivers just happen to see the server in the racelist. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

Well I for one WATCHED and absolutely ENJOYED this F1 race! Just poking some fun Jan. ;) This years French G.P. was one not to be missed by any true Formula One fan! All but 2 cars made it to the checkered flag. Well done! I hope you all enjoyed the great efforts of some of these amazing athletes as I did. I wish I could take part in this Full-Length GP today. It sounds like great fun. I look forward to reading some of the accounts from this one. Good luck to you all! ;) Pete Panaia Why Racing? Because Football, Baseball, and Basketball only require ONE ball.... -----------------------------------

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> > Practice would probably start at about 10am, to give > > people time to watch F1. > > Good thing you said "watch" instead of "enjoy". <g> > > Jan. > =---

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> Well I for one WATCHED and absolutely ENJOYED this F1 race! Just > poking some fun Jan. ;) > This years French G.P. was one not to be missed by any true > Formula One fan! All but 2 cars made it to the checkered flag. > Well done! I hope you all enjoyed the great efforts of some of > these amazing athletes as I did. I wish I could take part in this > Full-Length GP today. It sounds like great fun. I look forward to > reading some of the accounts from this one. Good luck to you all! > ;) > > Pete Panaia > > Why Racing? Because Football, Baseball, and Basketball only > require ONE ball.... > > ----------------------------------- >> > Practice would probably start at about 10am, to give >> > people time to watch F1. >> >> Good thing you said "watch" instead of "enjoy". <g> >> >> Jan. >> =--- > >

Bloody aweful TV coverage of the race. What happened to the theory that local directors were no longer in charge of the TV cameras? It was frustrating to have to listen to the ITV commentators remark on the mid-pack racing that was going on, all the while seeing prolonged shots of the blue car being chased by the red car, and then vice versa. Only at the end of the race did we really see any other cars. As to Eldred's race: six started. Neil's steering wheel died on him early on in the race and that left just five of us. I was lapped about fifty times by Dave <only a *slight* exaggeration>. I chased Jan for a bit, but every time I started to make any progress, I'd get bored and toss the car off into the weeds. I tried catching Eldred a few times too (after he lapped me!), but ended up visiting the lawns too many times to have any better luck there. Dave won. I came last (still a top 5 finish!). I'm not sure how it broke down between the two extremes. On a personal note: this was the very first of Eldred's full-length races that I have ever finished. I still remember having terminal brain fade during one of his Nurburgring races when I forgot entirely where the corner went, and prepared for a 3rd-gear left-hander when the corner was, in fact, a 2nd gear right-hander. I went over a fence a way, way, way across the fields. Broke the front suspension in the process. I think that was lap 2. <sigh> -- Darryl

"Pete Panaia" wrote... > Well I for one WATCHED and absolutely ENJOYED this F1 race! > Just poking some fun Jan. ;) No problem > This years French G.P. was one not to be missed by any true > Formula One fan! Quite!! -It's the racing fan perspective I'm worried about. > All but 2 cars made it to the checkered flag. Well done! Only one mechanical failure, actually. Though Minardi can't be blamed for fielding the well funded Baumgartner. > I hope you all enjoyed the great efforts of some of these > amazing athletes as I did. I enjoyed the race for 1st position on a tactical level, but from a spectator point of viez, the French director didn't show the right pictures. BORING!! > I wish I could take part in this Full-Length GP today. It > sounds like great fun. It was. Can you provide a good reason not to have participated (offending realtives is not a valid reason)? > I look forward to reading some of the accounts from this one. > Good luck to you all! ;) My comments in reply to Darryl. Jan. =---

"Darryl Johnson" wrote... > > <snip> > > Bloody aweful TV coverage of the race. Agreed > As to Eldred's race: <snip> > On a personal note: this was the very first of Eldred's > full-length races that I have ever finished. <snip> Good on yer, Darryl. Like you said, you had the speed, but not the consistency. Our next race will be interesting. <g> I thouroughly enjoyed the race, but am a bit peeved with Eldred. From my experiences trying to hunt him down before our first stop and afterwards trying to maintain the gap, I gather he had the speed to beat me outright. To hand me a 30 lead like he did, was simply uncalled for. Next time, Eldred, have a plastic botlle standing by, or just wet jourself. Time to develop the attitude to match the speed, bud.... Jan. =---

I was going to run, but had to take me Mom out to dinner. Maybe next time :) -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I was thinking about hosting a race using the TPTCC at Silverstone. 80laps is > a full race in GPL, is that a reasonable race length in N2k3? > Practice would probably start at about 10am, to give people time to watchF1.

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"Jan Verschueren" wrote... > It was. Can you provide a good reason not to have participated (offending > realtives is not a valid reason)? Yes, we have some very 'Wealthy' relatives that put on a BIG 4th of July Suarez every year. This year was no exception. I never miss it! >8� ... I must go now, as the sound of these key's bottoming out on this keyboard is deafening! Ouch, my head... Pete Panaia "Give me chastity and continence, but not yet." - Saint Augustine (354-430)

What time to you boys from the south eat dinner ;) "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:DRfGc.729$4Z3.176@lakeread02... > I was going to run, but had to take me Mom out to dinner. Maybe next time > :) > > -Larry >

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> Pete Panaia wrote in news:[email hidden]: >> As to Eldred's race: six started. Neil's steering wheel died on him > early on in the race and that left just five of us. I was lapped > about fifty times by Dave <only a *slight* exaggeration>. I chased > Jan for a bit, but every time I started to make any progress, I'd get > bored and toss the car off into the weeds. I tried catching Eldred a > few times too (after he lapped me!), but ended up visiting the lawns > too many times to have any better luck there. > > Dave won. I came last (still a top 5 finish!). I'm not sure how it > broke down between the two extremes. > > On a personal note: this was the very first of Eldred's full-length > races that I have ever finished. I still remember having terminal > brain fade during one of his Nurburgring races when I forgot entirely > where the corner went, and prepared for a 3rd-gear left-hander when > the corner was, in fact, a 2nd gear right-hander. I went over a fence > a way, way, way across the fields. Broke the front suspension in the > process. I think that was lap 2. <sigh> > > -- > Darryl

For the first 18 laps, Neil and I were less than a second apart. Was having a tremendous time until his wheel broke. Very, very frustrating as Neil and I were having an identical RASCAR race at Infineon last week until I was disco'd. One of these days Neil we are both going to make it to the finish. :-) I pretty much settled in after that and set my sights on lasting the rest of the 74 laps, and not making mistakes. Knee started to hurt near the end. :-o Nice job by all and would like to race with you again sometime. David G Fisher

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... [snip] > For the first 18 laps, Neil and I were less than a second apart. Washaving > a tremendous time until his wheel broke. Very, very frustrating as Neiland > I were having an identical RASCAR race at Infineon last week until I was > disco'd. > > One of these days Neil we are both going to make it to the finish. :-) > Was brilliant fun for a while there. Managed to kick out the usb connector. The replay was truly funny - sharp left turn on the straight. Looking forward to the Glen :) Thanks for organising things Eldred - numbers may be few but the appreciation is high! TTFN > I pretty much settled in after that and set my sights on lasting the restof > the 74 laps, and not making mistakes. Knee started to hurt near the end.:-o

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> > Nice job by all and would like to race with you again sometime. > > David G Fisher > > > >

On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 21:34:12 +0000 (UTC), Neil Charlton wrote: > > Was brilliant fun for a while there. Managed to kick out the usb connector. > The replay was truly funny - sharp left turn on the straight. Looking > forward to the Glen :) > Doesn't exactly sound like a tie-rap raceproof setup you run there, Neil ;-) I would have loved to join in on the fun, but I was away for the weekend. Hopefully I'll manage next time. cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

I had some texture flashing, crawling, and other anomalies w. an nVidia 5950 in D3D (SysInfo sez driver 5.6.74, dated 3/24/04) on my FragBox Pro, so I tried OpenGL, and the anomalies went away...but my frame rate was abt. cut in half...so I went back to D3D. "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Jan Verschueren wrote: > > > > "Jan Verschueren" wrote... > > > > <snip> > > > > Ok, problem: TPTCC v2.4 crashes NR2003 to desktop... any ideas? > > If 2.3 works for you it's MP compatible with 2.4 as far as I know > > As for the crashing....OGL or D3D ? > > If memory serves me right, a few people have had issues with 2.4 in OGL > and switched to D3D and this fixed it, some people have had to reinstall > the TPTCC from scratch > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

Correction: my nV drivers are 56.72 WHQLs. "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PLAGc.16186$[email hidden]... > I had some texture flashing, crawling, and other anomalies w. an nVidia5950

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> in D3D (SysInfo sez driver 5.6.74, dated 3/24/04) on my FragBox Pro, so I > tried OpenGL, and the anomalies went away...but my frame rate was abt. cut > in half...so I went back to D3D. > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Jan Verschueren wrote: > > > > > > "Jan Verschueren" wrote... > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > Ok, problem: TPTCC v2.4 crashes NR2003 to desktop... any ideas? > > > > If 2.3 works for you it's MP compatible with 2.4 as far as I know > > > > As for the crashing....OGL or D3D ? > > > > If memory serves me right, a few people have had issues with 2.4 in OGL > > and switched to D3D and this fixed it, some people have had to reinstall > > the TPTCC from scratch > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > > > http://www.theuspits.com > > > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > > --Groucho Marx-- > >