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> a Well John, that raps up any respect I had for you in this news group. If there was any to begin with. -DG-

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> a I think you've got the 'a' right already. Now you can try a 'b'. Jouni

> a John wake up, you're sleeping on the keyboard again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>a I have one question for you Mr. Daugherty; were you droped on your head at birth?

Just one leeter on your keyboard!

> Just one leeter on your keyboard! Yea,just one "LEETER".

> a Hmm, a, a, a, ok. (last time this was J) Go to the end of the a...s post. Hit Shift. Select "Mark as Read". Done.

I don't think the injury happened at birth, I think it happened when he slammed his head against the keyboard! (when this happened the 'a' key stuck perminently on his keyboard due to the amount of hard material (rocks, ect) in his head!) Just my opinion! John

> a Sure picked the right letter, "a" is the first one is *** :) Have a nice day

Please note: a complaint has been registered to your ISP. I'm sure you'll be hearing from them. -- ___ (-)

> > a > Sure picked the right letter, "a" is the first one is *** :) > Have a nice day You are a smart cookie,ok what letter does bonehead start with.We`ll go from A-Z then we`ll have your profile down.

> a you forgot the other letters that come after the a, the two esses and the hole...

> > a > you forgot the other letters that come after the a, the two esses and > the hole... You are one of the mental giants i`m talking about.You add to ANY! thread,no matter how stupid.

> You are a smart cookie,ok what letter does bonehead start with.We`ll > go from A-Z then we`ll have your profile down. The first letter in "Zodiac" is Z, this is also the first letter in "Zero" which matches both your IQ and personality, welcome to my kill file John. Have a nice day :)

I'm sorry I must have missed the original message. Could somebody please explain to me what this thread is about????

Ok ok mate, you've persuaded me to use my kill file. I hope you die soon :P -- Dave Bowers

> I'm sorry I must have missed the original message. Could somebody please > explain to me what this thread is about???? This thread started has a numerous messages containing only the letter a. This thread was from a certain "person" who just likes to*** Zodiac, he's changing his handle cause it's the only way anyone will read any of his garbage!!!

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> Hi All. > Even though I'm pretty sure the answer to this question is "there is no > answer", does anyone have (or at least believe) in a rule of thumb that > converts tire pressure to dynamic weight (ie, "increasing a tire by x > pounds is equivalent to adding y pounds of weight at that corner"), or > a rule of thumb that says "stiffening a shock by x percent is > equivalent to adding y pounds of pressure to a tire". > What I'm chasing is basically keeping the chassis snap at about the > same feel but changing how hot the tires run. > I keep thinking that I've heard Benny Parsons or one of the > commentators say something along the lines of "a pound of tire pressure > is equal to ??? pounds of weight" but I can't remember what the ??? is. > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > Todd

I don't have the specific answer to your question, Todd, but in general you can lower the pressure to heat up a tire, possibly improve its grip but shorten its life. Conversely, you can raise the pressure in a tire to cool the tire, decrease rolling drag which possibly gives you more mph, and gives you a stiffer, more positive handling car.

Hi All. Even though I'm pretty sure the answer to this question is "there is no answer", does anyone have (or at least believe) in a rule of thumb that converts tire pressure to dynamic weight (ie, "increasing a tire by x pounds is equivalent to adding y pounds of weight at that corner"), or a rule of thumb that says "stiffening a shock by x percent is equivalent to adding y pounds of pressure to a tire". What I'm chasing is basically keeping the chassis snap at about the same feel but changing how hot the tires run. I keep thinking that I've heard Benny Parsons or one of the commentators say something along the lines of "a pound of tire pressure is equal to ??? pounds of weight" but I can't remember what the ??? is. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Todd

One psi is something like 15 lbs/in of tire spring rate if I remember right. (That varies in a non-linear fashion though.) ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

> I'm sorry I must have missed the original message. Could somebody please > explain to me what this thread is about???? You must be another mental giant

Just because I didn't deem a subject of "a" worth my time to read the other day when I was busy and got in a little late now that I do have NOTHING better to do doesn't make me a "mental giant". Of course since I am reading this stupid thread now I would qualify.....

>> I'm sorry I must have missed the original message. Could somebody please >> explain to me what this thread is about???? >You must be another mental giant Why don't you go ask mommy what comes after 'a' while *** feeding you.

Hey you idiot. Quit filling up the newsgroup with this stupid stuff. ******************************************************** * Visit my site at - http://www.skyenet.net/~mridgeway * ********************************************************

I saw on TNN's "Inside Nascar" last week that a tire on a spring 'dino' showed about 1000 lbs. Then two pounds of air was added, then the 'dino' reading rose to about 1061 lbs.

Larry McReynolds said in an interview that 1 lb of air was equivalent to 15 lbs of spring. I'm not sure how that equates to the shock percentages in the sim. However, I've found that tire pressure settings are coarser than the shock settings in terms of the effect they have on the car. I asked Jim Sokoloff to allow for tire pressure adjustments in 1/2 lb increments for N3, which is the same increment that the WC teams use. I often make tire pressure adjustments during a race and usually find that 1 lb is a little too much. Dave Sparks IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars/index.html Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html Hawaii Handle: davids

From what my mate Mark Roberts has told me, no-one`s got much respect for you either.

Mark don't respond to that craps. That's the best thing to do. If not, he will right you things to make you angry. Pat

: One psi is something like 15 lbs/in of tire spring rate if I remember : right. (That varies in a non-linear fashion though.) : ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus Correct me if I'm wrong Jim, but these affects on the static weight distribution for the shocks and tire pressure adjustments are not implimented in N2. [guessing: They just affect the CG shift on the corners (shocks) and the traction (tires).] You do not see the car's corner weights change when you adjust these things in the garage. Actually it would really be nice to see a detailed description of the "virtual" physics that is implemented in the NASCAR games. (At least for those of us that make a living over analysing things and can't help to think it may help, or just plain interesting.) Matt

I've watched this board as a mostly passive observer, asking questions when I was at Wit's End and giving what I could. I don't expect the enraged group will be appeased by this but... NASCAR 2, as it stands, is *our sim*. It's like NASCAR...not all the teams or drivers or whatever agree with how it is. We all can say "we'd like this" or "we'd like that"...that's all really irrelevant. What *is* relavent is that where we can ask decent questions, help eachother, and go forward, we'll all enjoy the product more. So my narrow-minded suggestion is: let's get on with the race. I have a setup that runs decent 49.0's and 49.1's for Talladega on long runs of 38 laps...I want to share that with the virtual community. I can't get a decent setup for Richmond...I can't run better than 22.4's and it's really aggravating me. You may have a better setup...I may be able to improve mine...mine may not work for you..it may. We need to have that sort of discussion here...not one of whining. Just my thoughts. Todd

<snip> : I have a setup that runs decent 49.0's and 49.1's for Talladega on long : runs of 38 laps...I want to share that with the virtual community. : I can't get a decent setup for Richmond...I can't run better than : 22.4's and it's really aggravating me. : You may have a better setup...I may be able to improve mine...mine may : not work for you..it may. : We need to have that sort of discussion here...not one of whining. Yes, please help Todd, however do not send him the answer only by e-mail. As it stands I have only made it to 22.6 at Richmond and would like to receive some tips also. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Good posting, Todd!!! -Paul

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>I've watched this board as a mostly passive observer, asking questions >when I was at Wit's End and giving what I could. >I don't expect the enraged group will be appeased by this but... >NASCAR 2, as it stands, is *our sim*. It's like NASCAR...not all the >teams or drivers or whatever agree with how it is. We all can say "we'd >like this" or "we'd like that"...that's all really irrelevant. >What *is* relavent is that where we can ask decent questions, help >eachother, and go forward, we'll all enjoy the product more. >So my narrow-minded suggestion is: let's get on with the race. >I have a setup that runs decent 49.0's and 49.1's for Talladega on long >runs of 38 laps...I want to share that with the virtual community. >I can't get a decent setup for Richmond...I can't run better than >22.4's and it's really aggravating me. >You may have a better setup...I may be able to improve mine...mine may >not work for you..it may. >We need to have that sort of discussion here...not one of whining. >Just my thoughts. >Todd

Hear!! Hear!!! Jamie ______________________________ Listen to Captain Herb talk NASCAR on the Alan Vigil Southlake Ford 120 on Newstalk 750 WSB sat. afternoons -------------------------------------------------------------

Format from DMPSETUP.EXE; my apologies to the author for forgetting his name, but program downloadable from many of the sites. Setup: C:\NASCAR2\NASCAR2\TRACKS\RICHMOND\RACE.STG Last modified: Sun Jan 12 22:15:02 1997 Tire PSI Shocks Camber Comp Bias (lbs) Gear Ratio RF 50 70% -2.40 Hard Stagger 1.500 Left 1900 1 9.80 RR 51 75% -1.93 Med Air Dam 4.00 Rear 1855 2 6.90 LR 50 75% -0.84 Med Spoiler 70 Cross 0 3 5.80 LF 49 85% -0.20 Med Lock 14 Fuel 22.0 4 5.00 Comments: ace with left shocks tightend <<runs 22.4's...It really needs improved by .4>> Setup: C:\NASCAR2\NASCAR2\TRACKS\TALADEGA\RACE.STG Last modified: Fri Jan 23 14:25:09 1997 Tire PSI Shocks Camber Comp Bias (lbs) Gear Ratio RF 60 95% -2.20 Hard Stagger 1.000 Left 1900 1 8.50 RR 60 85% -1.93 Med Air Dam 3.50 Rear 1745 2 6.40 LR 60 80% -0.84 Med Spoiler 40 Cross 5 3 4.10 LF 60 90% 0.20 Med Lock 7 Fuel 22.0 4 3.40 Comments: Carried over from Nascar1 with -40 rear <<49.1's fairly regular without draft and after 5-6 laps.>>

Todd, I ran this setups with the only two differences... my own gears and my own wheel lock... I ran 121.5 with as my best time... I went back and stiffened the LR shock and was just clipping 122's... give it a try.... LR up from 5-10 % depending on your driving... Let me know! Oh yeh.. I didn't know about the camber as I'm confused as to what you've got listed above so I made the -2.40 and .80