Nascar 2 not worth $2.00

Nascar 2 is the most bug filled piece of software I have ever paid for. I have seen freeware that is much better. I guess the Sierra purchase really made Papyrus buckle under the presure... too bad...Use to be such a great company, now just another money hungry cheap bug filled software company.

Come on!! Can we please be constructive and list the bugs ? I also believe that there are some bugs that need fixing and I still feel that the games needs a save race weekend feature. However, unless you are willing to list the bugs and try and get them fixed - what is the point ? /THansen

>Nascar 2 is the most bug filled piece of software I have ever paid >for. I have seen freeware that is much better. I guess the Sierra >purchase really made Papyrus buckle under the presure... >too bad...Use to be such a great company, now just another money >hungry cheap bug filled software company. Yet another person griping with no back up as to why. I agree Tom, lets help fix it if its broke, not sit back and cry!! I bet he grips about people with fast setups too <G> Racer in IVGA Gold Series AMPRO and Director of SNARL (ACE SETUP League )

Dont Get It Then, Or Sell It >Nascar 2 is the most bug filled piece of software I have ever paid >for. I have seen freeware that is much better. I guess the Sierra >purchase really made Papyrus buckle under the presure... >too bad...Use to be such a great company, now just another money >hungry cheap bug filled software company.

>Nascar 2 is the most bug filled piece of software I have ever paid >for. I have seen freeware that is much better. I guess the Sierra >purchase really made Papyrus buckle under the presure... >too bad...Use to be such a great company, now just another money >hungry cheap bug filled software company. I would gladly pay you $4.00 for N2. You could receive double it's worth, help a citizen, and clear your conscience all in one shot. What a bargain!!!! Email me if interested....

Have you tried the rendition version of Nascar2 ? Makes GP2 look like garbage. I think "Bugs aside" that Nascar2 is the best racing sim too date. But you are right, All these software companies are HUGE and make millions of dollars on there software. Microprose has yet too even confirm a patch for GP2. and it took quite a while for Papy too patch up Indy 2, which is not finished yet. they got us by the balls, and they know it. Looking at the GP2 box it reads "Recommended P-90 with a 1 meg video card" Well we all know that is a complete lie. I will never buy anything from them again. And the verdit is still out on Sierra and Creative Labs for me being that I own a 3D Blaster.....Time will tell......I do not feel optimistic for some reason. Your dealing with big business, Big business has ONE goal, make Money. And you and I are the suckers that give it too them.... So what you going too to about it ? ~>>>>>>>>>>>-------------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>-------- ------------------\ Jason L'Hirondelle \-------------- ----------------------\ * There Can only be One... \-------------- --->>>>>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------- Gimme some sugar Baby.

>Nascar 2 is the most bug filled piece of software I have ever paid >for. I have seen freeware that is much better. I guess the Sierra >purchase really made Papyrus buckle under the presure... >too bad...Use to be such a great company, now just another money >hungry cheap bug filled software company. Bruce, Did you make that post after a bad race day? :-) N2 has a lot of good things going for it. Yes, there are some bugs, but I honestly believe they will be addressed in a timely matter. (at least I hope) I don't think I've ever purchased a software title that DIDN'T need a patch! Andy [link lost in import: /~ridger] Kali/Nascar/*** WARNING: MY E-MAIL ADDRESS HAS BEEN ALTERED TO PREVENT UNWANTED JUNK MAIL! REMOVE ASTERISK FROM THE END OF ADDRESS TO REPLY BY E-MAIL.

> Nascar 2 is the most bug filled piece of software I have ever paid Then I guess you didn't buy Mechwarrior 2 Mercenaries when it first shipped... :) patience is virtue, grasshopper! cw

You say it's not worth $2.00. I'll give you $5.00 for your copy. Mike

: Nascar 2 is the most bug filled piece of software I have ever paid : for. I have seen freeware that is much better. I guess the Sierra : purchase really made Papyrus buckle under the presure... : too bad...Use to be such a great company, now just another money : hungry cheap bug filled software company. All I can say is that you must not buy much software or even operating systems. . . Or maybe you are inferring that you "pirate" most of your buggy software? ;-) -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

LET'S START OPEN BIDING ON THE SOFTWARE HIGH BIDDER GETS IT. I'LL GO $2. 50 :) C'MON THE PAPER AND PLASTIC ARE WORTH MORE THAN $2.00 RECYCLE!! I'LL PAY POSTAGE AND 2.50 FOR YOUR GAME. E-MAIL ME FOR ADDRESS REMBER C.O. D. Sorry for shouting! Alex "YoungGun"-Hawaii handle

Right on,,, this game is a piece of %$^&*(. What are you trying to simulate?? I have to run a 5.30 gear on Taladega and still can't get the car above 9K on the Tac.. The garage screen won't show the right camber setting with the graphic. the graphic is straight up and down but the text shows a setting of -1.7----which one's right. The sound setup sucks...the auto detect doesn't work, not on my machine or my buddy's, we were planning on having some modem play, but both of us are planning on returning our game. The game locks up and has to be hard reset on a regular basis. Cannot run in either DMA mode or Rendetion mode. I could go on...and on....and on.... IT SUCKS...... This is on a Tyan VX MB, Intel p133, MGA Milluim w4mg WRAM vidio. The graphics are cool, but at what a price.....well,,I'll just keep playing my NCR1 until a GD version of the game is released. Am I going to be expected to buy some kind of track pack upgrade $$$$ now in order to get this pre-release software to work???? >Nascar 2 is the most bug filled piece of software I have ever paid >for. I have seen freeware that is much better. I guess the Sierra >purchase really made Papyrus buckle under the presure... >too bad...Use to be such a great company, now just another money >hungry cheap bug filled software company.

I have not seen any software that didn't need a patch either! (well, except for a few programming assignments that I did last term). I think it would be very difficult not to have any bugs in NASCAR 2. If you consider that the full install is 100 megabytes and probably a lot of that space is taken up by sound files and graphics. There is still, however, many megabytes of source code that has been written, try and write an 800,000+ lines of code with out making any mistakes! John -- Winners never quit, quiters never win

Before you go blasting a company for making a bad game, at least think a little. Do you have a Rendition 3D accelerator? No, you have a Matrox Millennium! The 3D accelerated versions of the game you are trying to run are specifically designed for use on the Rendition cards. Why would you expect them to work on your card? -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

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> Right on,,, this game is a piece of %$^&*(. > What are you trying to simulate?? I have to run a 5.30 gear on > Taladega and still can't get the car above 9K on the Tac.. > The garage screen won't show the right camber setting with the > graphic. the graphic is straight up and down but the text shows a > setting of -1.7----which one's right. > The sound setup sucks...the auto detect doesn't work, not on my > machine or my buddy's, we were planning on having some modem play, but > both of us are planning on returning our game. > The game locks up and has to be hard reset on a regular basis. > Cannot run in either DMA mode or Rendetion mode. > I could go on...and on....and on.... IT SUCKS...... > This is on a Tyan VX MB, Intel p133, MGA Milluim w4mg WRAM vidio. > The graphics are cool, but at what a price.....well,,I'll just keep > playing my NCR1 until a GD version of the game is released. > Am I going to be expected to buy some kind of track pack upgrade $$$$ > now in order to get this pre-release software to work???? > >Nascar 2 is the most bug filled piece of software I have ever paid > >for. I have seen freeware that is much better. I guess the Sierra > >purchase really made Papyrus buckle under the presure... > >too bad...Use to be such a great company, now just another money > >hungry cheap bug filled software company.

Well why don't you buy a Verite/Rendition card before running the rendition version of the game dumbass!!!!!!!!!!

> The game locks up and has to be hard reset on a regular basis. > Cannot run in either DMA mode or Rendetion mode. > I could go on...and on....and on.... IT SUCKS...... > This is on a Tyan VX MB, Intel p133, MGA Milluim w4mg WRAM vidio. REPLY: I'm surprised nobody caught this. The guy complains he can't get the DMA or rendition mode to work. Then he states he has a Matrox Mil.. Well folks right there is his problem. A user error. I wonder how much he's worth?? :) Q.B.M.

High***. M. Dear suck ass, do I hear you right. a video card will effect the rear end gear setup, the sound card operation, and cause the game to lock up, the garage setting to be incorrect (camber), and the save game option not to work win running with 'N2' startup. Perhaps you work for Sierra,,,,,suck ass. On 18 Dec 1996 04:48:17 GMT, "Richard Manning" <richie15

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>> Right on,,, this game is a piece of %$^&*(. >> What are you trying to simulate?? I have to run a 5.30 gear on >> Taladega and still can't get the car above 9K on the Tac.. >> The garage screen won't show the right camber setting with the >> graphic. the graphic is straight up and down but the text shows a >> setting of -1.7----which one's right. >> The sound setup sucks...the auto detect doesn't work, not on my >> machine or my buddy's, >Well why don't you buy a Verite/Rendition card before running the rendition >version of the game dumbass!!!!!!!!!!

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> Right on,,, this game is a piece of %$^&*(. > What are you trying to simulate?? I have to run a 5.30 gear on > Taladega and still can't get the car above 9K on the Tac.. > The garage screen won't show the right camber setting with the > graphic. the graphic is straight up and down but the text shows a > setting of -1.7----which one's right. > The sound setup sucks...the auto detect doesn't work, not on my > machine or my buddy's, we were planning on having some modem play, but > both of us are planning on returning our game. > The game locks up and has to be hard reset on a regular basis. > Cannot run in either DMA mode or Rendetion mode. > I could go on...and on....and on.... IT SUCKS...... > This is on a Tyan VX MB, Intel p133, MGA Milluim w4mg WRAM vidio. > The graphics are cool, but at what a price.....well,,I'll just keep > playing my NCR1 until a GD version of the game is released. > Am I going to be expected to buy some kind of track pack upgrade $$$$ > now in order to get this pre-release software to work????

Dear knuckle dragging sister ***ing back woods jerk water town living moron. Try running the ***ing game first without all the fourth of july bells and whistles fancy ass rendition shit used, then come back and tell us if the 1970`s K-Mart Easy Bake Oven computer your using is still locking up. you have yourself a merry christmas pooky!!

With NASCAR behind NCR2, the bugs will get fixed in a timely manner. I just hope they fix the frame rate problems. David Martin

It appears you throttle calibration is off. I had a similar problem and once it was calibarated I could then blow my engine in about 50 yards with a 5.30 gear! :) Have you thought about using quality sound cards? Sounds like you should look into some more options/ideas before spouting off. :) -- Lannie Schafroth

negative, the t2 works fine with ncr1. i have tried calibrating at 3/4 percent, still no difference. the engine will blow with no problem in first gear, the car cannot get up to speed in the top gear. even if the plate is removed, it still cannot get up to speed. my guess is there is a compatability issue with either the Intel 430VX chipset or possibly the 128 pin edo DIMM memory. ????????????????/ oh well, either a patch will come out and the game will become playable or it will go into the trash. until that time comes, i will continue to play ncr1 (something that will work) creative labs? its not the greatest, but it works with everything else. Sounds like you do you got some ideas, (buy a packard bell, acer, dell ???) the video card from sierra isn't an option unless it is supported in Linux. (very doubtful)