NASCAR 2 - use it in Win95 or DOS???

Hi, I'am hoping to get Nascar 2 real soon, and was wondering if someone could answer this question for me. When I get NASCAR 2, should I run it in DOS or Win95? I have a P120, 16 mg RAM. Is there any framerate advantage (ect) to running it in DOS instead of Win95? Replies would be greatly appreciated, John -- Winners never quit, quiters never win

:> I'am hoping to get Nascar 2 real soon, and was wondering if :>someone could answer this question for me. When I get NASCAR 2, :>should I run it in DOS or Win95? I have a P120, 16 mg RAM. Is there :>any framerate advantage (ect) to running it in DOS instead of Win95? I booted to DOS 6.22 and installed mine from the DOS prompt (not a DOS box under win95). It runs under win95 with no probs at all, except for the widely experienced Kali95 problem. I can run any of the supplied batch files with impunity. Some folks have claimed that using the win95 installer wipes out Internet Explorer 3.0. /===================================================\ | John Simmons (Redneck Techno-Biker) | | http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/index.html | \===================================================/

> :> I'am hoping to get Nascar 2 real soon, and was wondering if > :>someone could answer this question for me. When I get NASCAR 2, > :>should I run it in DOS or Win95? I have a P120, 16 mg RAM. Is there > :>any framerate advantage (ect) to running it in DOS instead of Win95? I notice in W95 that there is a slight pause that occurs while you race. It's only a fraction of a second, and happens about every 10 secs. After awhile you really don't notice it. I have a 2mb video board (s3 chipset), p133 16 ram.

> :> I'am hoping to get Nascar 2 real soon, and was wondering if > :>someone could answer this question for me. When I get NASCAR 2, > :>should I run it in DOS or Win95? I have a P120, 16 mg RAM. Is there > :>any framerate advantage (ect) to running it in DOS instead of Win95? Run it in anymode you like, but install it from DOS! Yep, runs ok from either, but I prefer running from Win95. And yes, the Kali / Rendition problem is a serious pain.

It's not really accurate to say it's a Kali/Rendition problem. That would imply that it is limited to the Rendition cards, and I've seen reports of it happening with other cards. Admittedly it does seem to be unavoidable with this combination however. -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

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>:> I'am hoping to get Nascar 2 real soon, and was wondering if >:>someone could answer this question for me. When I get NASCAR 2, >:>should I run it in DOS or Win95? I have a P120, 16 mg RAM. Is there >:>any framerate advantage (ect) to running it in DOS instead of Win95? >I booted to DOS 6.22 and installed mine from the DOS prompt (not a DOS box >under win95). It runs under win95 with no probs at all, except for the widely >experienced Kali95 problem. I can run any of the supplied batch files with >impunity. >Some folks have claimed that using the win95 installer wipes out Internet >Explorer 3.0.

I don't use MS Explorer, but I can tell you that the windows install version will stick your program in a \sierra\nascar2 directory. And in the Sierra directory with be about a half meg of wasted sierra setup files. Installing from dos lets you install at whatever you want, like c:\nascar2, and does NOT install the sierra directory or unwanted useless files. (I'm sure someone will tell me that they ARE useful... ;)

Fair? I have to be fair? Now you tell me! Ok, will try for fair.... When playing Nascar 1 over Kali with my S3 864 PCI card with 2 megs, I was able to run Nascar, and return to Kali without any problems. After installing the Intergraph Reactor, this is no longer possible. So, out of the two cards I have attempted to run Kali and any DOS program with, the Reactor is the only one to lock up the system. And with my 5x86 133 with a 1 meg Hercules Stingray VLB, Kali gets along fine with DOS apps. So, while I am not saying that the Reactor is the only card that Kali doesn't like, I am saying that it is the only card _ I _ have that Kali doesn't like. Fair enough? But, if it comes to a choice between the two, Kali is toast, at least on my Reactor machine.

About the Reactor cards in general. They're obviously nice when they work properly. But here's a current list of little things you currently have to deal with. 1. Indy Car2 has to be run in Dos-Mode. Which makes networking through '95 out. 2. Scortched Planet is in the same boat as IC2. 3. Nascar 2. Has a lock problem through Kali. The rest of the available software seems to work without a hitch. Q.B.M.

writes: REPLY: For the record you can change the directory in a Win '95 install as well. Q.B.M.

Well, it does WORK, you just have to re-boot when you exit the game. I've gone back to DOS Kali for Nascar anyway. It runs faster, and I don't have to pay homage to Gates every time I exit a ***y game <g>. David *** You're only young once, but you can stay immature forever ***

True, but it still has to have the leading Sierra directory. -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

QAZ REPLY: Well that's funny I erased Sierra and now my directory looks like this. Nascar2\nascar\ Again just for the record, not a big deal. Is there a chance this could cause a joystick not to work??? Q.B.M.

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>True, but it still has to have the leading Sierra directory. >> For the record you can change the directory in a Win '95 install as >> well.

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>>I don't use MS Explorer, but I can tell you that the windows install >>version will stick your program in a \sierra\nascar2 directory. And >>in the Sierra directory with be about a half meg of wasted sierra >>setup files. >>Installing from dos lets you install at whatever you want, like >>c:\nascar2, and does NOT install the sierra directory or unwanted >>useless files. >>(I'm sure someone will tell me that they ARE useful... ;) >REPLY: >For the record you can change the directory in a Win '95 install as >well.

yes and no. you can put it anywhere, but it will still be \sierra\nascar2 no matter where you put it. (example, installing to d:\nascar2, will make it d:\nascar2\sierra\nascar2

Which is to say it works, but not correctly. I don't mind having to reboot as much as I mind having to relog on to my provider. They only have so many lines, and it gets busy at times.

>Subject: Re: NASCAR 2 - use it in Win95 or DOS??? >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:57:57 GMT >>But, if it comes to a choice between the two, Kali is toast, at least on my

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>>Reactor machine. >Well, it does WORK, you just have to re-boot when you exit the game. >I've gone back to DOS Kali for Nascar anyway. It runs faster, and I >don't have to pay homage to Gates every time I exit a ***y game <g>. >David

Good one :) Do you use standalone DOS or the Win95 reboot?

writes: >>For the record you can change the directory in a Win '95 install as >>well. >yes and no. you can put it anywhere, but it will still be >\sierra\nascar2 no matter where you put it. (example, installing to >d:\nascar2, will make it d:\nascar2\sierra\nascar2 REPLY: Well then I'll give you my address and you can come over and see it for yourself. IT IS: Nascar2\nascar2\ Believe me. Q.B.M.

Yes, I've seen this too. Best Regards, Marc J. Nelson Sim Racing News

No, mine doesn't..... D:\NASCAR2 is all I use. Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

Did you use the Win95 install to place it there? -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

The WIN95 install forces you into the SIERRA subdirectory. The DOS install let's you specify ANY directory name. -- Lannie Schafroth

Yes. It placed it into the "Sierra" directory, and since I don't like software companies "advertising" on my hard drive, I promptly moved it into my own choice of directory and deleted all the stuff in the Sierra one. It's been fine... Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

That's what I was talking about. With the Win95 install, it insists on placing the leading Sierra directory. I just did the DOS install (which correctly installs the Qual setups) and forced it where I wanted it. -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/