Bristol being repaved to asphalt

Papyrus guys: A quick hint -- Bristol is being paved to asphalt next month. I think that's enough warning to make the NASCAR 2 track asphalt as well, don't you? <G> -- IWCCCARS Project Coordinator http://www.simracing.com/iwcccars/ Hawaii: IWCCCARS

: Papyrus guys: : A quick hint -- Bristol is being paved to asphalt next month. I think : that's enough warning to make the NASCAR 2 track asphalt as well, : don't you? <G> Wishful thinking. Since NASCAR2 is based on the 1996 season and it is/was still concrete. Good try though ;-) I think that the Bristol track is "cast in concrete" for NASCAR2. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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>Papyrus guys: >A quick hint -- Bristol is being paved to asphalt next month. I think >that's enough warning to make the NASCAR 2 track asphalt as well, >don't you? <G> >-- >IWCCCARS Project Coordinator >http://www.simracing.com/iwcccars/ >Hawaii: IWCCCARS

If not, what's to stop someone from coming up with an asphalt patch for Bristol, the opposite of what the concrete patch for Dover is supposed to do? It's frustrating that the game will already be obsolete in features such as this before it's even released. On a related note, the ESPN announcers also mentioned that Bristol's owner was talking to a firm about putting a DOME over Bristol? What a great idea! I didn't think it was possible myself. Kyle Langston

Why have a night race if it is under a roof????????

And have everyone die of carbon monoxide?

[SNIP] >If not, what's to stop someone from coming up with an asphalt patch >for Bristol, the opposite of what the concrete patch for Dover is >supposed to do? [SNIP] I'll tell you what will stop me and other Track Editors, file format. We now know the file format in NASCAR Racing 1 (3DO, MIP, etc.) won't be the same. So I, Gerhard, Jed, Jan, Rob, Alex, Tom, and the rest of the gang will have trouble cracking the file formats. Mark Fields ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cheers! Mark Fields NASS '96 Driver Web Sites: http://www.git.net/simspeed - Simspeed's World Wide Web Site http://www.skn.net/~twburgess - Mark's Index Page http://www.skn.net/~twburgess/nasicr - NASCAR Racing/Indycar II Sim Page http://www.simspeed.com - Coming Soon!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

: > : > On a related note, the ESPN announcers also mentioned that Bristol's : > owner was talking to a firm about putting a DOME over Bristol? What a : > great idea! I didn't think it was possible myself. : > : > : And have everyone die of carbon monoxide? Not to mention bleeding & ruptured eardrums! -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

> > On a related note, the ESPN announcers also mentioned that Bristol's > > owner was talking to a firm about putting a DOME over Bristol? What a > > great idea! I didn't think it was possible myself. > And have everyone die of carbon monoxide? I would prob. think that the sides would be open for the fumes to exit the dome. It prob. be like a big canopy just covering the track and the fans...so I would say from the top of the grandstand down would be left open... but i could be wrong..

> : Papyrus guys: > : A quick hint -- Bristol is being paved to asphalt next month. I think > : that's enough warning to make the NASCAR 2 track asphalt as well, > : don't you? <G> I think that the Bristol track is "cast in concrete" for NASCAR2. Actually...I kinda like the concrete better. Visually,(in the game(sim)),it's easier on the eyes,and provides better visibilty ahead and what seems like greater clarity. Is for me anyway :-) rgs

> Papyrus guys: > A quick hint -- Bristol is being paved to asphalt next month. I think > that's enough warning to make the NASCAR 2 track asphalt as well, > don't you? <G> > -- This is a bad idea for now. I don't see how it makes a difference either way really. Until Winston cup cars run on the refinished track how will Papyrus know what traction data to apply to the track to make the cars handle realistically on it? They don't just guess at this stuff do they? I personally like the concrete tracks because it makes it a little easier to see what's going on. I can't understand why they are making it asphalt anyway. I assume because it's cheaper than concrete, but wasn't he talking about putting a dome over it? That can't be cheap. Asphalt would probably make the track even faster! That't just what they need at Bristol. <g> Dana Bailes

>Why have a night race if it is under a roof???????? At least the race will never be delayed due to weather! Kyle Langston

>> On a related note, the ESPN announcers also mentioned that Bristol's >> owner was talking to a firm about putting a DOME over Bristol? What a >> great idea! I didn't think it was possible myself. >And have everyone die of carbon monoxide? I would think if they went ahead with it they'd put enough thought into the design to prevent such a thing from happening. Kyle Langston

Yeabut... the concrete patch for Dover doesn't do anything about the handling of the cars. It certainly would be nice if Papyrus could put in a switch for each track (just a line in the .txt file) that would indicate asphalt or concrete... that way it would be easily changeable. Great? That track is LOUD already. And smokey. A dome? Now I've heard everything. Later... Steve -- ***************************************************************************** Steve Owen "While you sleep, I am plotting world domination." http://members.aol.com/StevenOwen/steve.htm NASCAR, Concerts, Counters & More *****************************************************************************

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> : > > : > On a related note, the ESPN announcers also mentioned that Bristol's > : > owner was talking to a firm about putting a DOME over Bristol? What a > : > great idea! I didn't think it was possible myself. > : > > : > > : And have everyone die of carbon monoxide? > Not to mention bleeding & ruptured eardrums! > -- > **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I saw that on TV, too, but I think he was talking about putting a roof over all the seats, not a dome over the whole track. This is only MY interpretation of it.

A dome? I guess that would keep the weather from playing havoc on the surface and allow year-round racing.... but I can't imagine it would be cost-effective. Oh well. Sounds cool anyway. Mike

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> > On a related note, the ESPN announcers also mentioned that Bristol's > > owner was talking to a firm about putting a DOME over Bristol? What a > > great idea! I didn't think it was possible myself. > A dome? I guess that would keep the weather from playing havoc on the surface and > allow year-round racing.... but I can't imagine it would be cost-effective. > Oh well. Sounds cool anyway. > Mike

The next step would bring in an NFL team and play football in the Autodome. Humm.. Whats the seating capacity at Bristol anyway? -- John Twitchell Lynnwood, WA "I'm lost, and I've gone to look for myself."

No its not enough time to change the bristol enless its going to be in the track pack for NR2. The demo for NR2 will be avalible at my home page in about two weeks <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/Spidy12920/index.html><IMG SRC="http://members.aol.com/Spidy12920/webtitle.gif></A>

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>>Papyrus guys: >>A quick hint -- Bristol is being paved to asphalt next month. I think >>that's enough warning to make the NASCAR 2 track asphalt as well, >>don't you? <G> >If not, what's to stop someone from coming up with an asphalt patch >for Bristol, the opposite of what the concrete patch for Dover is >supposed to do? >It's frustrating that the game will already be obsolete in features >such as this before it's even released.

Papyrus has said repeatedly that NASCAR2 will be based on the 1996 WC season. Since both races at Bristol were on concrete this year, you shouldn't expect Papyrus to change the track color to asphalt. ...at least, not until the NASCAR2 Track Pack comes out. :-) -- +-------------------+----Insight Football League Webpage----+ | G. Warren Abao | http://users.southeast.net/~wabao/ifl | +-------------------+ BBL Jacksonville Jaguars 4-1 |'Phins!| | SPOOOOOOOOOOON!!! | IFL Jacksonville Bulls 11-7 |Yankees| +-------------------+Front Page Sports Football Rulz+-------+

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> > Papyrus guys: > > A quick hint -- Bristol is being paved to asphalt next month. I think > > that's enough warning to make the NASCAR 2 track asphalt as well, > > don't you? <G> > > -- > This is a bad idea for now. I don't see how it makes a difference > either > way really. Until Winston cup cars run on the refinished track how will > Papyrus know what traction data to apply to the track to make the cars > handle realistically on it? They don't just guess at this stuff do > they? > I personally like the concrete tracks because it makes it a little > easier > to see what's going on. I can't understand why they are making it > asphalt > anyway. I assume because it's cheaper than concrete, but wasn't he > talking about putting a dome over it? That can't be cheap. Asphalt > would > probably make the track even faster! That't just what they need at > Bristol. <g> > Dana Bailes

actually it wont be fast atleast i dont think. see when it was ashault the track had less grip so cars werent as fast in the corners there. also it was more expensive for ashault cause remember how it kept tearing up every other race. correct me if im wrong it has not been redone since concrete was put down. i think they did sanding on it that was it..

>On a related note, the ESPN announcers also mentioned that Bristol's >owner was talking to a firm about putting a DOME over Bristol? What a >great idea! I didn't think it was possible myself. I didn't think it was possible either and the jury IS still out. However a fellow on R.A.S.N. mentioned the possibility of an inflatable roof. apparently there's a partially covered dome (?) in Canada that uses this method. It will be interesting to find out what, if anything, is done. Steve +-----------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | All the worlds a stage, | ("'-''-/").___..--''"'-._ | | and there's a comedy playing. | '6_ 6 ) '_. ( ).'-.__.') | | May as well enjoy the show. | (_Y_.) ._ ) '._ '. ''-..-' | | | _..'--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' | +-----------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Go Dale Earnhardt #3 | Go Rusty Wallace #2 | +-----------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Split_S on IRC Steve_Sarlls on Hawaii sp-s on Warbirds | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

>>On a related note, the ESPN announcers also mentioned that Bristol's >>owner was talking to a firm about putting a DOME over Bristol? What a >>great idea! I didn't think it was possible myself. > I didn't think it was possible either and the jury IS still out. However >a fellow on R.A.S.N. mentioned the possibility of an inflatable roof. >apparently there's a partially covered dome (?) in Canada that uses this >method. It will be interesting to find out what, if anything, is done. It is possible to have a fully inclosed building with a track inside. There are already a few where they race migits and sprints. Thre would definately need to be a bigger air exchange systm to suck out the fumes, and some kind of noise dampining. But it is possible, and has been done. Mike

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>>On a related note, the ESPN announcers also mentioned that Bristol's >>owner was talking to a firm about putting a DOME over Bristol? What a >>great idea! I didn't think it was possible myself. > I didn't think it was possible either and the jury IS still out. However >a fellow on R.A.S.N. mentioned the possibility of an inflatable roof. >apparently there's a partially covered dome (?) in Canada that uses this >method. It will be interesting to find out what, if anything, is done.

I know SkyDome in Toronto is retractable, but that thing cost a LOT of money. The cost to have a retractable dome to cover Bristol would be staggering. Even if they can get a BristolDome in place, what kind of air circulation system would be used to get all of the carbon monoxide out of there? -- +-------------------+----Insight Football League Webpage----+ | G. Warren Abao | http://users.southeast.net/~wabao/ifl | +-------------------+ BBL Jacksonville Jaguars 4-1 |'Phins!| | SPOOOOOOOOOOON!!! | IFL Jacksonville Bulls 11-7 |Yankees| +-------------------+Front Page Sports Football Rulz+-------+

Right... :-) Then, while the lines are still visible on the infield, they'll cover it in dirt and run a supercross series followed by monster trucks the next weekend! ;-) What a country! Mike