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GP2 Plank

26 posts by 21 people · 26 Jul 1996 - 23 Aug 1996

GP2 plank wear and disqualification

A player asked why he was not disqualified for excessive plank wear. Others explained the manual states GP2 applies a drag or top speed penalty instead of disqualification, unlike real F1. Some wanted disqualification as an option.

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red.. 26 Jul 1996#329169
Hi, I set up the car at it's lowest ride height for Hockenheim, the plank must have been worn all the way (did not check) . I won the race, but with a plank worn that much why was'nt I disqualified ?? Greetings from Rob, All British F1 drivers fan.
Martin Koc 27 Jul 1996#329491
Quoted text (7 lines)> Hi, > I set up the car at it's lowest ride height for Hockenheim, the plank > must have been worn all the way (did not check) . > I won the race, but with a plank worn that much why was'nt I > disqualified ?? > Greetings from Rob, > All British F1 drivers fan.
RTFM. You won't get disqualified but loos a lot of groundforce. Martin Koch
kf.. 27 Jul 1996#329492
The manual says you won't get disqualified when wearing out the plank, but you will get a drag penalty. I guess it means your speed will be reduces when the plank toutches the ground but I can't say I have noticed any of that. Torgeir
Bill Mette 27 Jul 1996#329493
Quoted text (8 lines)>>I set up the car at it's lowest ride height for Hockenheim, the plank >>must have been worn all the way (did not check) . >>I won the race, but with a plank worn that much why was'nt I >>disqualified ?? >The manual says you won't get disqualified when wearing out the plank, but you will >get a drag penalty. I guess it means your speed will be reduces when the plank toutches the ground >but I can't say I have noticed any of that.
The manual is wrong. The FIA set a rule allowing only a certain amount of plank wear. The rule was put into place to prevent the teams from running the cars on the ground. Schumacher was disqualified from his win at Spa for this. -- ****************************************************************************** Bill Mette | "Thanks to teamwork, I almost stapled something today." ******************************************************************************
You won't get DQ'd in the Game. I can just imagine the flood of complaints if people were to run a 100% race only to be DQ'd because of plank wear. So they just give you extra drag when you wear it down. -- http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete Nascar..Weather..OnNetCameras..Oddities..and more.. Stop on by, what can it hurt?
kf.. 28 Jul 1996#329712
Quoted text (19 lines)>>>I set up the car at it's lowest ride height for Hockenheim, the plank >>>must have been worn all the way (did not check) . >>>I won the race, but with a plank worn that much why was'nt I >>>disqualified ?? >>The manual says you won't get disqualified when wearing out the plank, but you will >>get a drag penalty. I guess it means your speed will be reduces when the plank toutches the ground >>but I can't say I have noticed any of that. > The manual is wrong. The FIA set a rule allowing only a certain amount >of plank wear. The rule was put into place to prevent the teams from >running the cars on the ground. Schumacher was disqualified from his win >at Spa for this. >-- >****************************************************************************** >Bill Mette | "Thanks to teamwork, I almost stapled something today." >******************************************************************************
I am aware that too much plank wear gets you disqualified in F1, but the game handles it differently. Torgeir
Well, the manual isn't wrong. You DON'T get disqualified from wearing the plank to much, but you will get a loss in top speed if the plank gets over 1mm wear. Of cause, in real life, IT'S OUT SCHUMI ;-) LB
>You won't get DQ'd in the Game. I can just imagine the flood of >complaints if people were to run a 100% race only to be DQ'd because of >plank wear. So they just give you extra drag when you wear it down. It would be nice to have it as an option though..... Richard
Mike Wonha 29 Jul 1996#329975
Quoted text (7 lines)> Hi, > I set up the car at it's lowest ride height for Hockenheim, the plank > must have been worn all the way (did not check) . > I won the race, but with a plank worn that much why was'nt I > disqualified ?? > Greetings from Rob, > All British F1 drivers fan.The plank will not disqualify you, in the same way
as the sandpit will not trap you., This is for gameplay. However. Wearing down the plank beyond 1 millimeter should slow your top speed down (mine goes to 190 at Hockenheim, for example) but I'm not sure for how long it does it. Nanoo Nanoo Mike
Steve 29 Jul 1996#329976
Quoted text (7 lines)>Hi, >I set up the car at it's lowest ride height for Hockenheim, the plank >must have been worn all the way (did not check) . >I won the race, but with a plank worn that much why was'nt I >disqualified ?? >Greetings from Rob, > All British F1 drivers fan.
Umm, RTFM :) It states that you will just have the additional drag rather than a disqualification.
the plank must have been worn all the way (did not check). I won the race, but with a plank worn that much why was'nt I disqualified ?? << The damage indicator in your***pit goes red where the plank is if you are running too low. Then you see a noticeable difference in downforce. Set the ride height as low as possible without it flashing red - watch the sparks fly!
> The manual is wrong. The FIA set a rule allowing only a certain amount > of plank wear. The rule was put into place to prevent the teams from > running the cars on the ground. Schumacher was disqualified from his win > at Spa for this. The manual is right. The manual states clearly that in Real F1 championship you are disqualified if wear is more than 1 mm. The manual also states that in F1GP2 you are not disqualified but your car suffers a slight increase in drag wich produces reduction in top velocity ( Ive estimated it around 2 KM/H in Hockenheim. but thats not official). You are right about Schummie. FIA hopes this rule reduces the max speed of the cars so increasing safety. The author of this lines is Spain-born-and-speaking so, please, dont be too flaming with his english. Greetings from Spain by J. Cancillo.
Peter Locke 01 Aug 1996#330942
So, if you want 'realism', stop driving and you you'll have the equivalent of being DQ'ed. And if you keep doing it, ban yourself from the next race(s) :-) Consider the same self-abuse if you push someone off who had the legitimate race line. It doesn't have to be written in the software for us to copy what would happen in real life. ==================================================================== Hewlett-Packard Ltd., HPDESK : Telecom Systems Division HP Voicemail : 313 2571 South Queensferry Voice : +44 131 331 7571 Scotland FAX : +44 131 331 7987 ====================================================================
Mark Kratz 08 Aug 1996#332397
>If you read in the manual it mentions this somewhere. It says that the >penalty for having the ride height too low is to scrape the plank on the >ground and slow the car down due to this friction instead of >disqualifying to. >Read it. It's in the manual somwehere (I don't have it on me right now). Is a little bit of plank wear normal over the course of the race as the car bumps around?
> Hi, > I set up the car at it's lowest ride height for Hockenheim, the plank > must have been worn all the way (did not check) . > I won the race, but with a plank worn that much why was'nt I > disqualified ?? If you read in the manual it mentions this somewhere. It says that the penalty for having the ride height too low is to scrape the plank on the ground and slow the car down due to this friction instead of disqualifying to. Read it. It's in the manual somwehere (I don't have it on me right now). - Robert Schaftlein
Josh Beauli 08 Aug 1996#332399
>Is a little bit of plank wear normal over the course of the race as >the car bumps around? Yep, but keep it minimal. Set up your ride height so that your planks will just flash on and off very quickly occasionally.
: If you read in the manual it mentions this somewhere. It says that the : penalty for having the ride height too low is to scrape the plank on the : ground and slow the car down due to this friction instead of : disqualifying to. : Read it. It's in the manual somwehere (I don't have it on me right now). Pretty close, but there isn't any real speed penalty while rubbing. However there is an extreme power hit once you wear the plank down to the point where it shows up "red" on the***pit damage display. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Jack Frillm 09 Aug 1996#332660
: : If you read in the manual it mentions this somewhere. It says that the : : penalty for having the ride height too low is to scrape the plank on the : : ground and slow the car down due to this friction instead of : : disqualifying to. : : Read it. It's in the manual somwehere (I don't have it on me right now). : Pretty close, but there isn't any real speed penalty while rubbing. : However there is an extreme power hit once you wear the plank down to : the point where it shows up "red" on the***pit damage display. If you plank gets worn down during practice when you a setting up the car, how do you replace it? -- \ / \ / ---------------------+ ( ) +------------------ Jack Frillman | ^ " Carrots are devine you | LEXIS-NEXIS (513) 865-6800 | |/ it's magic! | Dayton, Oh 45401 EXT. 4812 | | -Bugs Bunny | ---------------------+ / \ +------------------ | / -- --
: If you plank gets worn down during practice when you a setting up : the car, how do you replace it? I think it's one of those magical 9.0+ second pit stop repairs. Pull in the pits and presto change brand new car ;-) -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
COX J. 09 Aug 1996#332662
Quoted text (15 lines)>Subject: Re: GP2 Plank >Date: 27 Jul 1996 20:12:40 -0500 >>>I set up the car at it's lowest ride height for Hockenheim, the plank >>>must have been worn all the way (did not check) . >>>I won the race, but with a plank worn that much why was'nt I >>>disqualified ?? >>The manual says you won't get disqualified when wearing out the plank, but you will >>get a drag penalty. I guess it means your speed will be reduces when the plank toutches the ground >>but I can't say I have noticed any of that. > The manual is wrong. The FIA set a rule allowing only a certain amount >of plank wear. The rule was put into place to prevent the teams from >running the cars on the ground. Schumacher was disqualified from his win >at Spa for this.
Actually the manual isn't wrong, from this point of view the entire GAME is wrong. You can't disqualified for plank wear in the game, though you can be in real life indeed (if you're an F1-driver ofcourse...). Joeri --------------------------------------------------------------- "We miss you, Alain." - Ayrton Senna, 1994 ---------------------------------------------------------------
Yu 10 Aug 1996#332844
Go in for a pit stop, your amazing crew will replace it in less than 10 seconds. Wonderful hey?
Jack Frillm 12 Aug 1996#333193
: > : > : >If you plank gets worn down during practice when you a setting up : >the car, how do you replace it? : Go in for a pit stop, your amazing crew will replace it in less than : 10 seconds. Wonderful hey? Should I wait 10 seconds before going into the car setup? -- \ / \ / ---------------------+ ( ) +------------------ Jack Frillman | ^ " Carrots are devine you | LEXIS-NEXIS (513) 865-6800 | |/ it's magic! | Dayton, Oh 45401 EXT. 4812 | | -Bugs Bunny | ---------------------+ / \ +------------------ | / -- --
> If you plank gets worn down during practice when you a setting up > the car, how do you replace it? Just go to the pits and they'll have it replaced for you by the time you drive out. -- Bruno Schleich Pt/Lx
Quoted text (10 lines)>Subject: Re: GP2 Plank >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 13:27:30 GMT >>If you read in the manual it mentions this somewhere. It says that the >>penalty for having the ride height too low is to scrape the plank on the >>ground and slow the car down due to this friction instead of >>disqualifying to. >>Read it. It's in the manual somwehere (I don't have it on me right now). >Is a little bit of plank wear normal over the course of the race as >the car bumps around?
Yes it does. Up to 0.1mm is OK, over that and you get DQ'd. In GP2 once you get over 0.1mm the plank on the little car damage icon goes red, and the car runs very slowly for a few seconds. Sort of a time penalty. After that, it goes back to normal. Try lowering the ride height and give it a go. I think pitting may bring the plank back to normal as well, but I am not sure. Bye..... Russellm.
Jack Frillm 21 Aug 1996#334419
: >Subject: Re: GP2 Plank : >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 13:27:30 GMT : >>If you read in the manual it mentions this somewhere. It says that the : >>penalty for having the ride height too low is to scrape the plank on the : >>ground and slow the car down due to this friction instead of : >>disqualifying to. : >>Read it. It's in the manual somwehere (I don't have it on me right now). : >Is a little bit of plank wear normal over the course of the race as : >the car bumps around? : Yes it does. Up to 0.1mm is OK, over that and you get DQ'd. In GP2 once you : get over 0.1mm the plank on the little car damage icon goes red, and the car : runs very slowly for a few seconds. Sort of a time penalty. After that, it : goes back to normal. Try lowering the ride height and give it a go. I think : pitting may bring the plank back to normal as well, but I am not sure. It stays red. At least it did for me. -- \ / \ / ---------------------+ ( ) +------------------ Jack Frillman | ^ " Carrots are devine you | LEXIS-NEXIS (513) 865-6800 | |/ it's magic! | Dayton, Oh 45401 EXT. 4812 | | -Bugs Bunny | ---------------------+ / \ +------------------ | / -- --
> Yes it does. Up to 0.1mm is OK, over that and you get DQ'd. In GP2 once you > get over 0.1mm the plank on the little car damage icon goes red, and the car > runs very slowly for a few seconds. Sort of a time penalty. After that, it > goes back to normal. Try lowering the ride height and give it a go. I think > pitting may bring the plank back to normal as well, but I am not sure. > Bye..... Russellm. I've noticed that if your plank is worn out during a race, you will not be able to go as fast as before, in terms of top speed (ie instead of 308kph you can only do 298kph), and it lasted for the rest of the race, so it wasn't temporary... -- Bruno Schleich Pt/Lx

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