GP2 log:on result

With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V with 2Mb. CPU speed : 259 Video speed: 417 No change with VESA 2.0. That's really a shame :(. Claude

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> With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V > with 2Mb. > CPU speed : 259 > Video speed: 417 > No change with VESA 2.0. That's really a shame :(. > Claude

Wow. I have a P90 , 40 megs Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2301 PCI with 1 Mb and i get: CPU speed: 170 Video speed: 174 I'd like to hear what people with P90's and better vid. cards are getting. I'm thinking about getting Stealth 3d 2000 soon. Risto

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> Wow. I have a P90 , 40 megs Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2301 PCI >with 1 Mb and i get: >CPU speed: 170 >Video speed: 174 > I'd like to hear what people with P90's and better vid. cards are >getting. I'm thinking about getting Stealth 3d 2000 soon. > Risto

I've got a lowly AMD 5x86 133 thats been underclocked to a 486-120mhz because my mobo won't support the 133 5x86. I've got 8 megs of RAM at 70ns. Processor (x86): 4 Dos Version: 00000007h Running windows 95 or above Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 162 Video speed: 181 I run GP2 with SVGA and NO details because I like the SVGA look. This way the estimated fps is 23.4. I then lower that to 18. It seems to run pretty good. But I'm finding that the VGA mode isn't bad at all. Its actually got some pretty good graphics for a VGA mode. Its much better than the VGA for ICR2. In VGA I can get an estimated fps of 23.4 with high detail and CURBS, FENCES, SMOKE(front view and rear view), BANK, and HILLS( I think), TRACk(rear view). This way the graphics are pretty good. Their VGA seems to have some nice curves on the cars. The texture isn't SUPER CLEAR. But its not bad. I might play it this way because of even more speed. But so far SVGA doesn't look bad. Michael Muhammad

Heh BUD so what you think do you like it? Its cool even when the details are turned off. Got RACER-X 2-1 tonight so feeling pretty good. PAPA DOC

I have a P75 (overclocked to 90), 16MB Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2302 PCI with 1 MB I get CPU speed: 174 Video Speed 210

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>> With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V >> with 2Mb. >> CPU speed : 259 >> Video speed: 417 > Wow. I have a P90 , 40 megs Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2301 PCI >with 1 Mb and i get: >CPU speed: 170 >Video speed: 174

I have a P133, 16 Mb RAM, and a Cirrus Logic 5430 PCI video card and I get: CPU speed: 258 Video speed: 94 (!!!!!!) I know Cirrus Logic cards are $#!+, but this is ridiculous. -- +------------------+--------------------------------------------+ | G. Warren Abao | Official BBL Jacksonville Jaguars Website: | +------------------++------------------------+------------------+ | SPOOOOOOOOOOON!!! | BBL Jacksonville 1-0 | IFL Chicago 11-7 | +-------------------+------------------------+------------------+

On Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:20:16 +0300, Risto Rossi

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> Wow. I have a P90 , 40 megs Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2301 PCI >with 1 Mb and i get: >CPU speed: 170 >Video speed: 174 > I'd like to hear what people with P90's and better vid. cards are >getting. I'm thinking about getting Stealth 3d 2000 soon. > Risto

I have P90 with 2Dram (number 9 Gxe 64) video card CPU speed : 175 Video sped : 318 ~~_____~~ [__]=[_(-)_]=[__] Gregory Alferov Los Angeles, Ca. USA ((())) IGN4/Miskatonic Motorsports (Netcar)

says... > > With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V

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> > with 2Mb. > > CPU speed : 259 > > Video speed: 417 > > No change with VESA 2.0. That's really a shame :(. > > Claude > Wow. I have a P90 , 40 megs Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2301 PCI > with 1 Mb and i get: > CPU speed: 170 > Video speed: 174 > I'd like to hear what people with P90's and better vid. cards are > getting. I'm thinking about getting Stealth 3d 2000 soon. > Risto

Stealth 3d won't help with gp2, it doesn't support it. But Nascar 2 is supposed to... -- http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete Nascar..Weather..OnNetCameras..Oddities..and more.. Stop on by, what can it hurt?

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>> With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V >> with 2Mb. >> CPU speed : 259 >> Video speed: 417 >> No change with VESA 2.0. That's really a shame :(. >Wow. I have a P90 , 40 megs Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2301 PCI >with 1 Mb and i get: >CPU speed: 170 >Video speed: 174 > Risto

With P75, 8 megs EDO ram, 2mb STB Trio 64v+ : Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 145 Video speed: 239 -Hisham-

>Heh BUD so what you think do you like it? Its cool even when the >details are turned off. Got RACER-X 2-1 tonight so feeling pretty >good. >PAPA DOC Papa Doc, I'm really starting to like this game. Congrats on your victory over Racer X. Too bad I'm working night shifts all this week, or I'd give ya a call. Who knows maybe about 10pm tonight or Tuesday night. That won't leave me much time as I've got to be to work for midnight. Let me know. Michael Muhammad

I have a P120 with 16 megs non-edo and a Lightspeed 128. Cpu speed is 233 Video speed is 446 I would like to see this video card in a p166 or 133 at those higher bus speeds.

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> > With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V > > with 2Mb. > > CPU speed : 259 > > Video speed: 417 > > No change with VESA 2.0. That's really a shame :(. > > Claude > Wow. I have a P90 , 40 megs Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2301 PCI > with 1 Mb and i get: > CPU speed: 170 > Video speed: 174 > I'd like to hear what people with P90's and better vid. cards are > getting. I'm thinking about getting Stealth 3d 2000 soon. > Risto

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>I have a P120 with 16 megs non-edo and a Lightspeed 128. Cpu speed is 233 >Video speed is 446 >I would like to see this video card in a p166 or 133 at those higher bus >speeds. >> > With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V >> > with 2Mb. >> > CPU speed : 259 >> > Video speed: 417 >> > No change with VESA 2.0. That's really a shame :(.

My process occupancy improves with UNIVBE 5.2 about 9% using a Diamond Stealth VRAM II card in SVGA.

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>: With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V >: with 2Mb. >: CPU speed : 259 >: Video speed: 417 >Pentium Pro 200 >Matrox Millenium >CPU Speed : 379 >Video Speed : 637

Pentium Pro 200 Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM 2 meg Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 377 Video speed: 157

P133 256PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stealth 64 2 meg VRAM (964 chip) CPU: 258 VID: 166 <-----man that's sad in comparison, what kind of real world frame rate jump would I get with say a Herc dyanamite 128?

: With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V : with 2Mb. : CPU speed : 259 : Video speed: 417 Pentium Pro 200 Matrox Millenium CPU Speed : 379 Video Speed : 637 -Scott

Well, I've got the Stealth 64 as stated above. But it has 1meg Dram. Video Speed: 146 (Before S3SPDUP) Video Speed 182 (after S3SPDUP) Not sure why it went from the 181 I had earlier to the 182 this time. But it is a significant jump from the 146 I had before. But to have a 77...yeeeeuuuuucccckkk!!!!! Hmm I don't know. Michael Muhammad

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>>> I've got a lowly AMD 5x86 133 thats been underclocked to a 486-120mhz >>> because my mobo won't support the 133 5x86. I've got 8 megs of RAM at >>> 70ns. >>> Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 162 >>> Video speed: 181 >>I have an AMD 5x86 133 overclocked to 150, with 20 megs of RAM, video >>(VLB) running at 50Mhz. >>Speed (c.f. DX2-66): around 180, can't quite remeber >>Video speed: 77 !!!! >>If I use S3SPDUP I get the vid speed up to 222, but there is some >>incompatibility with my S3-805, because the screen looks like it was >>raining (a very jagged image)! >>I should get a better vid card! >>-- >>Miro.

I also have an AMD 5x86-133 running normally at 133Mhz, 32mb Non-edo 60ns ram, and a 2 meg Trident PCI video. My results: Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 238 Video speed: 85 At work I tested the game on my pentium 133, 32mb EDO, 2mb ATI Mach64, and from memory it was something like: speed: 285 Video: 69 AND ON A 166, same ram and video- speed: 355 video: 70 I think the consensus is : ATI Mach64 sucks wind in Dos games. Unfortunately, some applications we use at work don't have drivers for the Matrox, that's what we did get until we found out they didn't work. Now we order boxes with ATI's in them. What a shame. I could be flying at work on the 166 with a Matrox! Craig Marcho

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>> With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V >> with 2Mb. >> CPU speed : 259 >> Video speed: 417 >> No change with VESA 2.0. That's really a shame :(. >> Claude > Wow. I have a P90 , 40 megs Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2301 PCI >with 1 Mb and i get: >CPU speed: 170 >Video speed: 174 > I'd like to hear what people with P90's and better vid. cards are >getting. I'm thinking about getting Stealth 3d 2000 soon. > Risto

Unfortunately gp2 doesn't support 3d cards - I think the best video cards for this game are the ET6000 based. results for my P166/16mb/256kb pb Cache/Hercules Dynamite 128V: Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 322 Video speed: 498

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> With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V > with 2Mb. > CPU speed : 259 > Video speed: 417 >P133 256PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stealth 64 2 meg VRAM (964 chip) > CPU: 258 > VID: 166 <-----man that's sad in comparison, what kind of real world frame > rate jump would I get with say a Herc dyanamite 128?

It seems to me like an error (vid:166). Cause I have an overclocked P120(P100) with 16 megs and a MIRO 12SD 1 MB (S3 TRIO32). My results are: P120 256 async-cache, 16 MB (non-EDO, 70nS), MIRO 12 SD 1MB (TRIO32 chip) CPU: 239 VID: 250 (with s3speedup: 339) I cant imagine that the Stealth 64 2 meg VRAM Card is so bad. What do you think about it? Peter Herzhoff

>With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V >with 2Mb. >CPU speed : 259 >Video speed: 417 > No change with VESA 2.0. That's really a shame :(. >Claude Hello I have a P120, 16MB EDO,256PB cache, Avance Logic 2302 1mb, and get the following: Log opened Code Start: 004C8020h Code End : 005524D6h Data Start: 005643C8h Data End : 009AE2EEh Command line: log:on Environment: Processor (x86): 5 Dos Version: 00000007h Running windows 95 or above Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 232 Video speed: 422 Crazy hey? Cheers Jon Hope

My Pentium Overdrive 83 Mhz (upgraded from 486/66) with Diamond Viper VLB 2Meg VRAM gives CPU speed: 105 Video speed: 27 *Sigh* Actually, I'm not sure I trust these figures as the game is quite playable in VGA with several textures on, and even in SVGA with no textures (and no wrecks in traffic!). Also, I'm sure that the Pentium Overdrive 83Mhz is at least 50% faster than a 486 (in 32-bit environemnts). Still, can anyone recommend a good VLB video card? John "Betcha either one of your scores is higher than my total" McCanless -- John C. McCanless Department of Electrical Engineering University of ***ia

Okay everybody, you should probably sit down before I give you the numbers........ :) P100, Imagine 128 video CPU: 193 Video: 28 (!!!!!!) I dare anybody to beat that video score! The Imagine 128 is a FANTASTIC Windows accelerator, but uses a Cirrus Logic 5422 for DOS, and is truly awful. Incidentally, I popped the machine's original video card back in to see if it made a big difference (expecting that it wouldn't), and discovered that SVGA was now very playable with Low Detail and most textures off (all but walls and trackside). I figured that the slow framerate was mostly due to the P100, but found that even a marginally better video card (didn't do a log, sorry, but it's just a Cirrus Logic 5434) made a big difference. I ordered a Millenium two days ago......can't get here quick enough! Rick

: Stealth 3d won't help with gp2, it doesn't support it. But Nascar 2 is : supposed to... But if one is thinking of getting this card for other 3D games, it would be nice to know how it performs in GP2 and other "normal" DOS situations. I know that this is just exactly the type of information that seems to be lacking when people talk about 3D cards. "Yeah, but what will it do for me in DOS or Windows?" -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Borrowed Hi-Grade P100 with 16mb RAM and unknown video card. Processor: 193 Video: 279 Cheers, Ross-c

writes P75, Cirrus Logic GD5422 Processor (x86): 5 Dos Version: 00001406h Running under dos Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 145 Video speed: 19 Graham --

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>> Wow. I have a P90 , 40 megs Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2301 PCI >> with 1 Mb and i get: >> CPU speed: 170 >> Video speed: 174 >> I'd like to hear what people with P90's and better vid. cards are >> getting. I'm thinking about getting Stealth 3d 2000 soon. >> Risto >I have a P75 (overclocked to 90), 16MB Ram (non-EDO), Avanche Logic 2302 >PCI with 1 MB >I get >CPU speed: 174 >Video Speed 210

I'd like to know if the CPU has anything at all to do with the Video Speed. AFAIK, it's the video card, and the host bus that will make the difference. Could someone please tell me otherwise, or what is the point in saying your CPU speed/memory etc..? ------------- Richard Sobey

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>>: With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V >>: with 2Mb. >>: CPU speed : 259 >>: Video speed: 417 >>Pentium Pro 200 >>Matrox Millenium >>CPU Speed : 379 >>Video Speed : 637 >Pentium Pro 200 >Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM 2 meg >Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 377 >Video speed: 157

Well, here's mine: Cyrix 6x86-P166+ (133MHz) 16 Megs EDO Diamond 64 2 Megs VRAM Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 357 Video speed: 176 So, I think Cyrix kicks ass [but Diamond's kinda lame :( ]

OK, for the record... DX4-120, 9FX Vision 330: Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 103 Video speed: 105 It is an S3 chipset but I don't have either of the utilities spoken about often, so can't say how much they'd improve things. Where's that free one to be had? -- http://members.cruzio.com/~keeper/toons.html - Contemporary WB cartoons info http://www.armory.com/~keeper/midi.html - My own MIDI music and arrangements

I've got a P166, 32Mb EDO ram, 256Kb pipeline cache, and a Hercules Dynamite 128. I only got the Dynamite yesterday - I have a slow Trident 9440 which came with the computer. Scores I got with the Trident: CPU: 322 Video: 86 (yuck!) SVGA, maximum details, fps set to 25.6, starting at the back of the grid at monaco: occupancy = 390% With the Dynamite: CPU: 322 (how odd - no change! :) ) Video: 381 SVGA, monaco, etc. etc: occupancy = 390% As you can see - THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. f*** this is annoying. THis, from a card which is supposed to be the fastest DOS card on the market. BUt, I am getting sent a new BIOS and set of drivers for it - maybe that will fix things. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "One of these days I'm going to cut you into little pieces" Pink Floyd

A little but not enough to warrant buying it just for this purpose. It is a good overall card at a reasonable price though.

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>I've got a P166, 32Mb EDO ram, 256Kb pipeline cache, and a >Hercules Dynamite 128. >I only got the Dynamite yesterday - I have a slow Trident 9440 >which came with the computer. >Scores I got with the Trident: >CPU: 322 >Video: 86 (yuck!) >SVGA, maximum details, fps set to 25.6, starting at the back of the >grid at monaco: occupancy = 390% >With the Dynamite: >CPU: 322 (how odd - no change! :) ) >Video: 381 >SVGA, monaco, etc. etc: occupancy = 390% >As you can see - THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. f*** this is annoying. >THis, from a card which is supposed to be the fastest DOS card on the >market. >BUt, I am getting sent a new BIOS and set of drivers for it - maybe >that will fix things. >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >"One of these days I'm going to cut you into little pieces" Pink Floyd

Dont buy a video card expecting miracles. If the game uses the video card wisely you will see some modest improvements. I went from S3 trio 64+ w/2megs to the Lightspeed 128 w/2.25 megs. GP2 was smoother but I would say only maybe 1fps gained. NASCAR seemed to get even more help and both Quake and AH-64 saw a marked improvement. Here is the evolution of my Weekends tunings using GP2 log:on p5-150 w/trio proc. 290 video 177 p5-150 w/Lightspeed proc. 290 video 447 Modest increase p5-150 w/Lightspeed overclocked to 166 proc. 323 video 496 Significant increase. If you want a real increase in GP2 go for processor speed.

GP2 is VERY strange with respect to video cards. If you try using ICR2 V1.0.2, you will see quite an improvement with the frame-rate counter. In GP2, there is little or no difference. Probably this is due to the lack of LFB support, which was quite an oversight I think. The new card will be faster in everything.....except GP2 it seems :( Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

Hiya, I get CPU Speed 258 Video Speed 356 This is with a P133,16Meg Non EDO, Diamond Stealth 64 2 Meg DRAM. Cu Steve Works ok, I play in VGA though just for the speed, I prefer the feel of movement to the hires graphics actually I find it much better to play with the speed, the replays are crystal smooth etc and after a while your imagination kicks in and all the cars look real :))) hehehehe One Day I will have a P10000 and the cars will be rendered in real time at 25fps and look just like tv, until then I'll just keep on using my imagination... Bye

This may seem like a silly question but how do your find out the particular vid, cpu speed of your system. I have a p133 with 16MB EDO and a Matrox MIllenium and I am curious to see how my machine compares with others. Any help will be greatly appreciated Nigel /\ /\ { + + } FEEL HONOURED, YOU HAVE JUST RECEIVED SOME E-MAIL FROM { O } BIGVERN \ ____ / \ \__/ / \____/ "NO BASTARD IS GONNA TAKE ME ALIVE"

Clearly there is something wrong with the way GP2 uses your graphics cards then. On my system (P133, 16MB EDO, 256K PLB cache, 2MB Matrox Millennium), I _only_ (ha ha) get 340% occupancy using your Monaco scenario above. Video score is 458 btw) If you are getting 390% with a P166, well, at the very least it says something about the interaction between your (good) card and GP2. Maybe something to do with the program not supporting VESA 2?? BTW, I find it hard to believe those who have said that the GP2 video score only reflects VGA performance. The Millennium is distinctly average in VGA (as proved(?) by using the Doom benchmark) yet scores very high using the GP2 one. Maybe the difference is just in the lack of VESA 2 extensions used by GP2 and the specific video mode used? Richard PS: I actually tried a lap with the 340% occupancy. Quite hilarious really. I think the slow motion replay suited my reaction times as I made up rather a lot of places in the one lap <g>

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>>>: With Gigabyte ATE586 P133, 256 PB cache, 16Mb (non-EDO), Stingray 64/V >>>: with 2Mb. >>>: CPU speed : 259 >>>: Video speed: 417 >>>Pentium Pro 200 >>>Matrox Millenium >>>CPU Speed : 379 >>>Video Speed : 637 >>Pentium Pro 200 >>Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM 2 meg >>Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 377 >>Video speed: 157 >Well, here's mine: >Cyrix 6x86-P166+ (133MHz) 16 Megs EDO >Diamond 64 2 Megs VRAM >Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 357 >Video speed: 176 >So, I think Cyrix kicks ass [but Diamond's kinda lame :( ]

Nothing special but NOTE that some 'low end machines' can be rather good: 5x85-133, 24 meg Ram, Hercules Dynamite VLB! ( yes not pci) 2 Meg of ram: Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 183 Video speed: 177 And I can say I can run GP2 very nicely, with almost all except I play in LOW Trackside stuff.. I prefer the game and cars not the rest. (SVGA of course) \=/, _-===-_-====-_-===-_-=====-_-===-_ /\ /\ / (___,,,}_--= New York, NY _) ) /^\) ^\/ _) =__ iPHONE 4 | CuSeeMe Color available_) ) _ / / _) (_ http://www.walrus.com/~egalvez ) /\ )/\/ || | )_) (_ WinTalk Daemon Active _) < > |(,,) )__) -==-___-====-____-====-___-=- || / \)___)\ | \____( )___) )___ \______(_______;;; __;;; -Human Nature is in fact human habit...-

Simple question: does having log:on result in a slower framerate than having log:off? Lately I start GP2 with log:off, but I also manually lowered framerate and changed detail, so it isn't clear what changing the log did for me. Everything seems faster, but that is probably just from manually lowering framerate.

: Simple question: does having log:on result in a slower framerate than : having log:off? Lately I start GP2 with log:off, but I also manually : lowered framerate and changed detail, so it isn't clear what changing : the log did for me. Everything seems faster, but that is probably just : from manually lowering framerate. Upon examining various log texts, it would appear that log:on is only active at startup and shutdown. The only differences I see are based on intial startup parameters. If the log:on is active during actual gameplay, one would expect to see numerous differences in the log texts. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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Hi, Here my addition to the ever growing log list. P100, 16mb RAM, 256kb Pipeline Burst SRAM Cache, Expert Color Graphics Card (S3 trio64), Intel 82430 FX chipset. Speed (cf Dx2-66): 194 (was 193 until I fiddled with my start-up files) Video Speed: 363 (475 with S3SPDUP) --------------------------------------- James Lademann IVGA #3949 ---------------------------------------

Another one to add to the pile : Cyrix P150+, 16MB EDO, AI5TV M/B (VX Chipset), 256k cache, Spea V7 Mirage Speed : 320 Video : 24 !!! (ISA) - maybe I need a new card ?? Mind you, I can run in VGA all details on at 23 fps and CPU never goes over ~120% dameski