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Anyone tried S3SPDUP with GP2?

26 posts by 22 people · 24 Jul 1996 - 04 Aug 1996

Using S3SPDUP to speed up GP2 on S3 cards

Users tested the free S3SPDUP utility with GP2 on S3-based video cards. Most reported higher video scores and about 1 to 2 fps more when loading it with the vga option, though some saw no gain or crashes. The download location was shared.

hardware: PC/graphicstech supportGrand Prix 2

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Ken Nicols 24 Jul 1996#328588
:Anyone with a S3 vid card tried this program with GP2? Does it work? : Gave me a 5% boost with my Diamond Stealth 2M DRAM card. UniVBE/SDD gave me 10%, but unfortunately, both together don't give 15%. Give them both a go - S3SPDUP is free, UniVBE is 21-day shareware, and decide which to buy. Ken
Yes it works. I almost thought it would allow me to run in SVGA because it REALLY boosted performance in practice. When I ran a race the processor (dx4/100) got too bogged down. I still use it to boost VGA performance. I recommend it highly! I can run in VGA with all details on except for sky. The processor occupancy is about 105-110% with other cars and 90-100% by myself (during a race). It slows considerably when a car in from of you is smoking with an engine failure, during a replay in director mode etc. I just got the game last night, so I will write up a full review after a few days of hacking around. -- Jeffrey Hunsberger ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ get the latest racing news at my news link site: the A P E X: Jeff's Racing Links Site http://www.voicenet.com/~jeffreyh/apex ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Netscape 2.0 enhanced!!
zo.. 25 Jul 1996#328940
>:Anyone with a S3 vid card tried this program with GP2? Does it work? >: >Gave me a 5% boost with my Diamond Stealth 2M DRAM card. UniVBE/SDD >gave me 10%, but unfortunately, both together don't give 15%. >Give them both a go - S3SPDUP is free, UniVBE is 21-day shareware, and >decide which to buy. Gday, ou mentioned S3SPDUP, any info on where this is available?
John Marti 25 Jul 1996#328941
Quoted text (8 lines)> :Anyone with a S3 vid card tried this program with GP2? Does it work? > Gave me a 5% boost with my Diamond Stealth 2M DRAM card. UniVBE/SDD > gave me 10%, but unfortunately, both together don't give 15%. > Give them both a go - S3SPDUP is free, UniVBE is 21-day shareware, and > decide which to buy. > Ken
My P120 with 32mg and a Stealth64 2mg,did'nt show any noticeable difference...to make sure I did it correctly,from the c:\Prompt I ran s3spdup vesa and recieved a message that the tsr was running...then I ran GP2....right?? Actually,I was pretty disappointed,coz I really need to improve the speeeeeed! John.
Rob Jame 26 Jul 1996#329299
Quoted text (18 lines)> > :Anyone with a S3 vid card tried this program with GP2? Does it work? > > Gave me a 5% boost with my Diamond Stealth 2M DRAM card. UniVBE/SDD > > gave me 10%, but unfortunately, both together don't give 15%. > > Give them both a go - S3SPDUP is free, UniVBE is 21-day shareware, and > > decide which to buy. > > Ken > My P120 with 32mg and a Stealth64 2mg,did'nt show any noticeable > difference...to make sure I did it correctly,from the c:\Prompt I ran > s3spdup vesa and recieved a message that the tsr was running...then I > ran GP2....right?? > Actually,I was pretty disappointed,coz I really need to improve the > speeeeeed! > John.
Hello, I run GP2 by clean-booting (I run Windows 95) and running S3SPDUP thus: S3SPDUP vesa+ vga+ On my P90 (oc'ed last night to 100 without a hitch), 16MB Ram, Diamond Stealth Video 3200 (VRAM) I get the following results from the gp2log.txt file (+ is with S3SPDUP running). Video CPU % video % cpu P90 166 174 P90+ 254 174 53% 0 P100+ 267 193 61% 10.91954023 Processor occupancy at Silverstone start (watching me from outside) was maxing at 360% (oncet he cars are moving) before S3SPDUP and this dropped to 300% after - about 20% improvement. Anyone else got any figures ? Rob
Lo 26 Jul 1996#329300
Where do you get S3spdup Los
Quoted text (7 lines)>> Give them both a go - S3SPDUP is free, UniVBE is 21-day shareware, and >> decide which to buy. >> Ken >My P120 with 32mg and a Stealth64 2mg,did'nt show any noticeable >difference...to make sure I did it correctly,from the c:\Prompt I ran >s3spdup vesa and recieved a message that the tsr was running...then I >ran GP2....right??
I DID notice a difference. It feels faster with the same level of detail on. Randy
Tomo Bysted 26 Jul 1996#329302
> Yes it works. I almost thought it would allow me to run in SVGA because it > REALLY boosted performance in practice. When I ran a race the processor > (dx4/100) got too bogged down. I still use it to boost VGA performance. I > recommend it highly! <snip!> Me too! I got my video performance index up from 165 to 266 using it on my Stealth 64 2MB VRAM! The game really ran noticably faster so if you have an S3 video card download this file now! Tomo.
Tim Hall 27 Jul 1996#329567
Try "s3spdup vga /load". The message should say vga is on. I did some experimenting last nite and found that the 'vesa' option doesn't affect the speed, at least according to gp2log.txt, but the 'vga' option raises the speed quite a bit, although I assume it doesn't do anything for SVGA mode. Tim
Quoted text (18 lines)> > :Anyone with a S3 vid card tried this program with GP2? Does it work? > > Gave me a 5% boost with my Diamond Stealth 2M DRAM card. UniVBE/SDD > > gave me 10%, but unfortunately, both together don't give 15%. > > Give them both a go - S3SPDUP is free, UniVBE is 21-day shareware, and > > decide which to buy. > > Ken > My P120 with 32mg and a Stealth64 2mg,did'nt show any noticeable > difference...to make sure I did it correctly,from the c:\Prompt I ran > s3spdup vesa and recieved a message that the tsr was running...then I > ran GP2....right?? > Actually,I was pretty disappointed,coz I really need to improve the > speeeeeed! > John.
Hi John, try to load s3 Speed Up with Vesa AND Vga, even when you play in SVGA mode in GP2. When I loaded it with the VESA option only, I didn't get much of an improvement either but with both set, it was quite a boost (I could increase the framerate by a cool 2). Also Make sure to get the latest version at http://wwwmath.uni-muenster.de/~mesched/ . For results, look at a previous posting called graphics performance booster. I was told that UniVBE won't have an influence on GP2 because it wasn't supported. So why don't you check it out (I'll do it too)! To do this, run GP2 LOG:ON with and without UniVBE and check the gp2log.txt file for video index. Post your results so we all know whether it helps or not. BTW, to see the ultimate gain for your video card (not necessarily the gain for a game), there is nice utility on Dietmar's homepage. Hope this helps. ManueL.
Quoted text (7 lines)>Try "s3spdup vga /load". The message should say vga is on. I did some >experimenting last nite and found that the 'vesa' option doesn't affect >the speed, at least according to gp2log.txt, but the 'vga' option raises >the speed quite a bit, although I assume it doesn't do anything for SVGA >mode. >Tim
I got an increase in 1.2 fps when I ran the s3spdup vga /load! It appears to be working or at least for me. -- "Let's kick the tires and light the fires Big Daddy!" -anonymous dead wingman
> >Try "s3spdup vga /load". The message should say vga is on. I did some > >experimenting last nite and found that the 'vesa' option doesn't affect > >the speed, at least according to gp2log.txt, but the 'vga' option raises > >the speed quite a bit, although I assume it doesn't do anything for SVGA > >mode. > >Tim > I got an increase in 1.2 fps when I ran the s3spdup vga /load! It > appears to be working or at least for me. In VGA mode, or SVGA? I would guess that it only helps VGA.. -- http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete Nascar..Weather..OnNetCameras..Oddities..and more.. Stop on by, what can it hurt?
Quoted text (22 lines)> > >Try "s3spdup vga /load". The message should say vga is on. I did > some > > >experimenting last nite and found that the 'vesa' option doesn't > affect > > >the speed, at least according to gp2log.txt, but the 'vga' option > raises > > >the speed quite a bit, although I assume it doesn't do anything for > SVGA > > >mode. > > >Tim > > I got an increase in 1.2 fps when I ran the s3spdup vga /load! It > > appears to be working or at least for me. > In VGA mode, or SVGA? I would guess that it only helps VGA.. > -- > http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete > Nascar..Weather..OnNetCameras..Oddities..and more.. > Stop on by, what can it hurt?
Try to start S3spdup with both vga AND vesa enabled, even if you only run in SVGA. ManueL.
York Stude 28 Jul 1996#329776
Quoted text (12 lines)>>My P120 with 32mg and a Stealth64 2mg,did'nt show any noticeable >>difference...to make sure I did it correctly,from the c:\Prompt I ran >>s3spdup vesa and recieved a message that the tsr was running...then I >>ran GP2....right?? >Try "s3spdup vga /load". The message should say vga is on. I did some >experimenting last nite and found that the 'vesa' option doesn't affect >the speed, at least according to gp2log.txt, but the 'vga' option raises >the speed quite a bit, although I assume it doesn't do anything for SVGA >mode. >Tim
I try it last nite as well. I can't see much change in the 'feel' of the game but it certainly increase the speed when entering or exiting menu. Did not get any improvement in the frame rate. I think it worth to try just because it speeds up menus. Tanker
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Quoted text (18 lines)>>>My P120 with 32mg and a Stealth64 2mg,did'nt show any noticeable >>>difference...to make sure I did it correctly,from the c:\Prompt I ran >>>s3spdup vesa and recieved a message that the tsr was running...then I >>>ran GP2....right?? >>Try "s3spdup vga /load". The message should say vga is on. I did some >>experimenting last nite and found that the 'vesa' option doesn't affect >>the speed, at least according to gp2log.txt, but the 'vga' option raises >>the speed quite a bit, although I assume it doesn't do anything for SVGA >>mode. >>Tim >I try it last nite as well. I can't see much change in the 'feel' of the >game but it certainly increase the speed when entering or exiting menu. >Did not get any improvement in the frame rate. >I think it worth to try just because it speeds up menus. >Tanker
I have a P-120 and S3 Trio 64 2mb Dram card.If I start GP2 with "gp2 log:on" to create the gp2log.txt file I get a videospeed of 297 without S3SPDUP and and a videospeed of 446 with S3SPDUP. If it actually show some difference in the game itself is hard to say but it is worth a try. Thomas
Eddy Ho 30 Jul 1996#330415
Try using s3spdup with s3spdup vga instead of s3spdup vesa. VESA doesn't make any difference but VGA does. You can make about 1 frame/second more with it on which is pretty good !
Mark Kratz 30 Jul 1996#330416
>Me too! >I got my video performance index up from 165 to 266 using it on my >Stealth 64 2MB VRAM! The game really ran noticably faster so if you have >an S3 video card download this file now! >Tomo. How do you check the video performance index? Thanks.
markm.. 30 Jul 1996#330417
Didn't do me any good.. Try it yourself, ->->->->Mark Mann->->->-> http://www.netrunner.net/~markmann ************************************** !!!Go Fast or Don't Go At All!!! ************************************** Go Jacques Villeneuve - #6 Williams-Renault Go Greg Moore - #99 Player's/Forsythe-Reynard-Mercedes
> > :Anyone with a S3 vid card tried this program with GP2? Does it work? > > Gave me a 5% boost with my Diamond Stealth 2M DRAM card. UniVBE/SDD > > gave me 10%, but unfortunately, both together don't give 15%. > > Give them both a go - S3SPDUP is free, UniVBE is 21-day shareware, and
Quoted text (12 lines)> > decide which to buy. > > Ken > My P120 with 32mg and a Stealth64 2mg,did'nt show any noticeable > difference...to make sure I did it correctly,from the c:\Prompt I ran > s3spdup vesa and recieved a message that the tsr was running...then I > ran GP2....right?? > Actually,I was pretty disappointed,coz I really need to improve the > speeeeeed! > John.
Try using the vga tag not vesa...it worked for me in SVGA mode. extra 1.4 fps. -- http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete Nascar..Weather..OnNetCameras..Oddities..and more.. Stop on by, what can it hurt?
motos.. 31 Jul 1996#330756
I tried S3SPDUP on my Stealth 64(trio)PCI 2mb EDO video card, and when I attempt to load GP2, it freezes when it begins to load the screen. ....didn't work for me... www.netcom.com/~motosprt/index.html
Quoted text (16 lines)>>>Me too! >>>I got my video performance index up from 165 to 266 using it on my >>>Stealth 64 2MB VRAM! The game really ran noticably faster so if you have >>>an S3 video card download this file now! >>>Tomo. >>How do you check the video performance index? Thanks. >Running the game with "gp2 log:on" creates gp2log.txt file which shows >your video performance. But I found this misleading. I have >Stealth64 and my video score in gp2log.txt does increase with S3SPDUP >VGA but I still get the same CPU occupancy. S3SPDUP VESA and UNIVBE >does not change gp2log.txt but it gives me lower CPU occupancy. The >video score shown in gp2log.txt does not reflect the real graphic >performance. >--KCI
> Try using s3spdup with s3spdup vga instead of s3spdup vesa. VESA > doesn't make any difference but VGA does. You can make about 1 > frame/second more with it on which is pretty good !Does this work/help when running GP2 in SVGA? I though if running GP2 in SVGA you needed to run S3SPDUP in VESA mode. Thanx, Sal V.
Brian E. Na 04 Aug 1996#331617
I received a 58% increase in the video section under "gp2 log:on" Nash

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