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F1GP2 release date March '96!!

20 posts by 18 people · 20 Nov 1995 - 20 Dec 1995

Notable threadGrand Prix 2 delayed to March 1996

A magazine report that Grand Prix 2's release had slipped to March 1996 prompted speculation, including rumours of a dispute or cancellation. Quentin Chaney of MicroProse posted that Geoff Crammond was still developing the game, tweaking gameplay while artists upgraded artwork to SVGA, and that it would be released in the coming year. Others noted adverts and pre-orders already running.

With Quentin Chaney (MicroProse)

release/newsrumour/speculationGrand Prix 2

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Here's an excerpt from Hyperactive magazine on the net: [link lost in import] start excerpt --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday 17 November GRAND PRIX 2 UPDATE March is now the revised release date for GP2. Apparently the problems wern't as huge as previously indicated, but much work is still to be done to get GP2 up and away. We await with eager anticipation. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday 15 November MICROPROSE GRAND PRIX 2 HITS THE WALL Tragedy of tragedies... The incredibly long awaited Grand Prix 2 from Microprose has been delayed indefinately! The story is a bit of a saga... project leader Geoff Crammond - famous for his the first Grand Prix (World Circuit in some countries), has apparently produced a game so unbelievably sophisticated that no existing PC could ever run it. Microprose are understandably upset and talk of legal action against Mr Crammond abounds. The fate of the game is unknown at this stage, but it's believed that Microprose are hard at it trying to tune the game to run on an average machine. This probably means losing some of the features built into the initial game. We're*** out for this one as badly as you, so stay tuned and we'll give you the full story as it breaks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- end excerpt Hmmm, makes you wonder how much BS is being thrown about with regard to the enourmous frame rates that F1GP can sustain in SVGA. heres hoping all is not as bad as this indicates..... Bazza
DR 22 Nov 1995#307921
heard mumbling... In 12 months, we'll all be shouting for MicroProse to increase the resolution and up the colours to 16 million.... DR J -- ______________________________________________________________________________ me90drj : "It's an old code sir, but it checks out. I was about to clear him." is94drj : "....5....4....3...Wait! What's that red light?...." ______________________________________________________________________________ ------======= <URL:http://http1.brunel.ac.uk:8080/~is94drj/> =======------
Stuart Boo 23 Nov 1995#307985
>>> March is now the revised release date for GP2. Apparently the >>problems wern't as huge as previously indicated, but much work is still to >> be done to get GP2 up and away. We await >>with eager anticipation. >Sounds like they downloaded the IndyCar 2 Demo and now know how far >behind they are...again ROFL!!!!! Excellent humour. I like it. Still, Papyrus HAVE released *3* games in the time since F1GP. That must give them some good experience I'd reckon. Pity they'll slow down (?) now that they're doing multiple platforms (DOS, Mac, Win95). What's next I wonder. F1, Touring Car, or Nascar 2? Jeez, ICR2's not even out yet and I'm wanting to know what's next! Stuart. -- From the bedroom of Stuart Booth, Somewhere in Guildford, England...
Oliver Goe 24 Nov 1995#308034
Well, delaying the release should pretty much solve the problem. They just have to wait long enough for the hardware to catch up with the needs of the game ;-) (Well, support for 3D graphics cards wouldn't hurt either.) -- Oliver Goetz | "...all mattresses grown in the swamps of Lochwiesenstr.1 | and dried before being put to service. D67122 Altrip | Very few have ever come to life again." Germany | -- The Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy
I dont believe so much in rumors, and so I think that the conflict between Geoff and Microsoft is nonsense. There might be some disagreing between them because of the release date failing Christmast, but that can be overcomed. Nevertheless, because what I have been hearing in this newsgroup I think that the March release date could be true. I heard that recently in Paris theyve showed a demo that still is a long way from being finished (only in VGA and one track) and so I dont believe that the game will be released before March. On the other way, a March release could in some way be interesting for the promotion of GP2. FORMULA ONE SEASON STARTS IN MARCH with the Brasil GP, and because the game is lincensed by FIA they could launch it the day it the championship begins and perhaps the presentation of the game could be done in the circuit of Interlagos, perhaps with some F1 drivers. That way at least it would have a tremendous with the media. In that case I would understand SH/MP silence about the release of the game. .......................... Just a thought. Anyway, the important thing is not whether they launch it in Jan, Fev or March. It is that the game will be awesome for us to play. Meanwhile we can always keep playing F1GP. Its still the best F1 simulator ... at least for me. Miguel. ********************************************** Carlos Miguel Santos Cordeiro **********************************************
As a matter of fact, next years season wont start in Brazil but in Australia, on a cicuit that is not available in F1GP2, i.e Melbourne. So it wont be that intresting to start your own computer-championship in Brazil when the real one starts in Australia. : (. Ronny Holmstr?m Inst. for Pol. Sci ?bo Akademi Uiversity
Ron Bir 30 Nov 1995#308421
I sent mail to Microprose and they said all that stuff about Microprose Grand Prix 2 wasn't true Geoff Crammond just wasn't happy with some of the gameplay issues. I hope thats true. Ron Bird
Clive Parso 03 Dec 1995#308615
> I dont believe so much in rumors, and so I think that the conflict > between Geoff and Microsoft is nonsense. There might be some > disagreing between them because of the release date failing > Christmast, but that can be overcomed. Yes, the same "setback" happened with the Amiga original. But if it is only a rumor that F1GP2 is being axed, then why isn't Geoff or MPS going public here to dispel it? We might just have to face up to no F1GP2 after all... Geoff. Geoff, Geoff, Geoff... What were you thinking of??? But he won't reply tho will he? He, and Microprose, NEVER interact with these newsgroups. Maybe if they listened to us the people, they might have more idea of what's going on. MPS seems to have grown into a cash incentive only monopoly, with NO regard to the end user in mind at all. Take id for example... at the other extreme end of the scale. Microprose aren't at the bottom, but they are getting dangerously close to GAMETEK... Anyone got any theories on why they've gone downhill so much? -- ~~_______~~ _______________[__]=[_(-)_]=[__]_______________ V I S O R --
Hi Clive, I do monitor this newsgroup daily and post on occasions. Posts regarding the game are also forwarded to the game's producer for team viewing. In regard to GRAND PRIX 2 it continues in development by Geoff. The release will be next year largely in part to the detail going into the game by Geoff. I know it's hard waiting but it will be worth it. I also keep the web page on GP2 updated as best I can which is worth a visit - http://www.microprose.com/wc2pr.html Best, Quentin
Oliver Goe 07 Dec 1995#308878
Microprose is already running ads in German game magazines. Go figure. -- Oliver Goetz | "...all mattresses grown in the swamps of Lochwiesenstr.1 | and dried before being put to service. D67122 Altrip | Very few have ever come to life again." Germany | -- The Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy
Andy Col 08 Dec 1995#308948
If GP2 is being delayed until the start of the next season will we see Schuy in a Ferrari, will Pacific be absent and will we see Johnny Herbert in the pit lane reporting back to Murray Walker.
Whol 10 Dec 1995#309067
Cordeiro) writes: >Microprose is already running ads in German game magazines. Go figure. Check out the January issue of RACER magazine. Page 21 has a full page add for GRAND PRIX II including: "Test drive Grand Prix II today. And you'll see why it kick asphalt over everything else. Visit your local retailer or call 24 hours: 1-800-695-GAME (US and Canada)" Have not called the number yet.
Raymond K 11 Dec 1995#309150
> I do monitor this newsgroup daily and post on occasions. > Posts regarding the game are also forwarded to the game's > producer for team viewing. Crammond is a genius.. he creates the god like F1GP (lick..***) There is only so much slobber I can wipe off a monitor, the public want the game... just out of interest, how complete is the simulation. Are all the circuits in there and suchlike? Ray Ko School of Information Science, University of Portsmouth (UK) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= (Valid until August 1996) URL : [link lost in import: /~sis4381/] (Until August 1996.. or it could be on the move) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Desperation is not attractive" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Marc Geno 13 Dec 1995#309262
Quoted text (9 lines)>Cordeiro) writes: >>Microprose is already running ads in German game magazines. Go figure. >Check out the January issue of RACER magazine. Page 21 has a full page >add for GRAND PRIX II including: "Test drive Grand Prix II today. And >you'll see why it kick asphalt over everything else. Visit your local >retailer or call 24 hours: 1-800-695-GAME (US and Canada)" >Have not called the number yet.
I just gave a call. A sales rep. from Spectrum Holobyte said that the software is not ready, and they are taking pre-orders. He also said that they will start shipping it in January. I doubt that this information a reliable enough to bet on a january shipping! Marc
Jem Barre 13 Dec 1995#309264
I take that as confirming the rumour that the game really is SVGA only. In which case it can't be that much of a dog running in SVGA (contrary to even more rumours). But I expect my 33SX will still need an upgrade. Jem.
I'd like to say that I'm glad there's someone from Spectrum-Holobyte (Microprose) who reads and posts in this newsgroup. Quentin, you're probably the only reliable source of information on the progress of the game, so if you've got any news, I (and many others) would like to hear from you. -- Imar de Vries | 'Those crazy Ferrari fans sure make a lot of noise... LFRS - Patrim #61 | (dramatic pause)... more than the Peugeot that I drive.' HOF Grey Council | - Hakkinen, Formula One driver
Brent Grov 16 Dec 1995#309437
Well, whatever the wait for it, am sure it will be worth it, and am 100% sure it will be better than Virtual Karts :)
>Well, whatever the wait for it, am sure it will be worth it, >and am 100% sure it will be better than Virtual Karts :) I hope so. I've bought VK yesterday, and I think it's horseshit! Robert
: >From what I've seen and heard the gameplay is being tweaked by : >Geoff at this time while the artists are upgrading all the VGA : >artwork to SVGA. : I take that as confirming the rumour that the game really is SVGA only. : In which case it can't be that much of a dog running in SVGA (contrary to : even more rumours). But I expect my 33SX will still need an upgrade. : Jem. I think it was all the menus and stuff that was going to be in SVGA, so you have to have a SVGA card in order to run the game. The vector graphics (the actuall racing sim) though, I think you will be able to choose VGA/SVGA mode (like in The Need for Speed). /Linus

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