Re: Nascar 4 movie released!

hope ya got a fast connection for download! 33 megs took me 30 minutes on cable! -- Donny Nelms [email hidden] BULLBAG on WON & WWW.Firetalk.com Member of Milenio Motorsports www.tradinpaint.net Member of International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers Union Electricians Do "IT" Without Shorts! "Robert Allen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Blackhole Motorsports has the N4 movie available for download. > > > > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/ > > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >

> Could someone post a little info about what the movie features and how > impressive it is please. :) Ok,... here goes... the clip opens with papy logo and nascar 4 logo,... misc race sounds in back ground. (first 20 sec., Clip is 2 min) then it goes into race scenes. first scene shows Mark Martin closing in from the rear bumper cam... Looks like Bobby Labonte in the background. Track is mid size and lit. (Richmond?) more shots of these cars running together including a nice driveby of Martin's car (this shot is stunning... there is a small pop on the front bumper as it comes closer,... either a lighting jump, or a level of detail pop.... either way, this looks awesome) next shot is a fixed camera showing the cars coming at you and turning into one...once again,... this looks *Very* good next is a rear bumper cam again as Mike Skinner closes in. The car with the camera loses it and takes a wild ride through the infield. (Nothing airborn, but quite realistic looking) You can see the weight shift as it spins. another short bumper clip, followed by a shot of cars going 3 wide... John Andretti goes on the apron and moves up a bit, as his car bounces. Mark martin on the outside goes into a slow slide, and Bobby Labonte cuts down to avoid hitting him. Cut to blimp cam of this as well. Then there is a very quick clip of skinners car spinning from the roof cam of Robert Pressley's car. Then there are more race shots, (A lot of bumper cams and blimp cams) Of note here is a roof cam shot from Mike Skinner's car... you can see a nice reflection line move across the hood as the car follows mayfield into the corner. cut to some shots of Tony Stewart. These shots really show off the shadows moving under the car (As the car circles the track, the shadow swings around to maintain the same direction... very nice looking) This is followed by a sequence of cars rotating on a black screen (Stewart, Park, Rusty Wallace, B. Labonte. Finally, back to more racing shots at Dover,... these show off the dynamic shadows more, as well as the hood reflection. There are a few shots of Tony and Bobby that look darn near video quality. Finally, it ends with a bumper cam shot looking back at John Andretti as he goes into a corner and loses it. I skipped over a lot, but I hope this helps... Overall impressions... WOW! I work on graphics for a living, so I'd like to think I have a fairly critical eye towards this stuff. The cars reflections are done in a realistic manner (You may not even notice them at first) The dynamic shadows also help add to the strong sunlight effect. Frame rate looked very smooth, but details such as smoke and dust are not present. Overall, this looks like a major leap forward,... much larger than the leap from 2 to 3. Assuming they are using a modified GPL engine, I can only wait and drool. Troy

The movie is about 2 minutes in length. It shows three cars racing at Richmond, with one car spinning coming off of turn 4 and sliding through the infield (from a bumber-cam perspective). It also shows a car looping it going into turn 1. Then the movie changes to Dover and again you see 2 or 3 cars going at it and two cars looping it going into/coming out of the turns. In the middle of the movie, they show shots of just the cars. It's pretty cool and I would highly recommend the download. -/-WW "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ES_R4.11160$[email hidden]... > Could someone post a little info about what the movie features and how > impressive it is please. :) > >

Blackhole Motorsports has the N4 movie available for download. http://www.bhmotorsports.com/ * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

29 mins 1 sec on cable here. "Donny Nelms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > hope ya got a fast connection for download! 33 megs took me 30 minuteson

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Sounds like you might have a speed problem with your cable service. I got it with my cable connection in under 5 minutes. I averaged about 130/kbps Check this site out for cable tweaking and info... http://www.speedguide.net/ and for a little other info go to: http://people.mw.mediaone.net/viper8/cable.htm

Could someone post a little info about what the movie features and how impressive it is please. :)

You have to remember that no matter how fast your cable is, you are also at the mercy of links in between you and the destination. I am on a cable that I have seen pull down files at over 200k/sec, but in getting the video from www.bhmotorsports.com I averaged about 15k/sec. Could be a link in between, could have been the server itself. "Napoleon BlownApart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I4%R4.685$[email hidden]... > > Sounds like you might have a speed problem with your cable service. I gotit

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> with my cable connection in under 5 minutes. > > I averaged about 130/kbps > > Check this site out for cable tweaking and info... > http://www.speedguide.net/ > > and for a little other info go to: > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/viper8/cable.htm > > > >

Remember, unless you live in Finland (Where the server is) the xfer won't be that fast... -Jacob Team BHMS www.bhmotorsports.com "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:t30S4.1373$[email hidden]... > You have to remember that no matter how fast your cable is, you are alsoat

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> the mercy of links in between you and the destination. > > I am on a cable that I have seen pull down files at over 200k/sec, but in > getting the video from www.bhmotorsports.com I averaged about 15k/sec. > > Could be a link in between, could have been the server itself. > > > "Napoleon BlownApart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:I4%R4.685$[email hidden]... > > > > Sounds like you might have a speed problem with your cable service. I

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> it > > with my cable connection in under 5 minutes. > > > > I averaged about 130/kbps > > > > Check this site out for cable tweaking and info... > > http://www.speedguide.net/ > > > > and for a little other info go to: > > > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/viper8/cable.htm > > > > > > > > > >

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> 29 mins 1 sec on cable here. > > "Donny Nelms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > hope ya got a fast connection for download! 33 megs took me 30 minutes > on > > cable! > > > > --

Gee, it only took 4 minutes on my cable connection :-) -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Official member: Screamers Racing League Sim Racing Mag Honda Challenge Sim Racing Mag F2 Ferrari ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: Plans?, Oh, you mean that napkin sketch?

98k/sec here on ADSL in Canada...I'm not complaining!! Marc. "Jacob Butner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8fa2os$l4t$[email hidden]... > Remember, unless you live in Finland (Where the server is) the xfer won'tbe

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> that fast... > > -Jacob > Team BHMS > www.bhmotorsports.com > > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:t30S4.1373$[email hidden]... > > You have to remember that no matter how fast your cable is, you are also > at > > the mercy of links in between you and the destination. > > > > I am on a cable that I have seen pull down files at over 200k/sec, but

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> > getting the video from www.bhmotorsports.com I averaged about 15k/sec. > > > > Could be a link in between, could have been the server itself. > > > > > > "Napoleon BlownApart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:I4%R4.685$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Sounds like you might have a speed problem with your cable service. I > got > > it > > > with my cable connection in under 5 minutes. > > > > > > I averaged about 130/kbps > > > > > > Check this site out for cable tweaking and info... > > > http://www.speedguide.net/ > > > > > > and for a little other info go to: > > > > > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/viper8/cable.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>Just a pitty we have six >months to wait... Or have 6 months to save up for a new system:) Racer X Veteran Sim Racer #4 Corvette C5-R in the GTIC #24 Monte Carlo in the DORL Victory Lane- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/

It took 4 minutes and 21 seconds on my DSL... There is no smoke, no dirt, no flipping or any of that other stuff for those of you wondering. Lee On Tue, 09 May 2000 22:30:10 GMT, Richard ZZ Busch <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> 29 mins 1 sec on cable here. >> >> "Donny Nelms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > hope ya got a fast connection for download! 33 megs took me 30 minutes >> on >> > cable! >> > >> > -- > >Gee, it only took 4 minutes on my cable connection :-)

3 minutes 15 seconds here. -- Slot www.slottweak.com Tweaks & Reviews "Donny Nelms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > hope ya got a fast connection for download! 33 megs took me 30 minutes on > cable! > > -- > > > > Donny Nelms [email hidden] > > BULLBAG on WON & WWW.Firetalk.com > Member of Milenio Motorsports www.tradinpaint.net > Member of International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers > Union Electricians Do "IT" Without Shorts! > > "Robert Allen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Blackhole Motorsports has the N4 movie available for download. > > > > > > > > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/ > > > > > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network > * > > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! > > > >

Thanks for that, I appreciated all the detail. :) Just a pitty we have six months to wait...

Thanks for the info. 33Mb is a bit big for a 56k modem (about 2.5 hrs).

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> > You have to remember that no matter how fast your cable is, you are also at > the mercy of links in between you and the destination. > > I am on a cable that I have seen pull down files at over 200k/sec, but in > getting the video from www.bhmotorsports.com I averaged about 15k/sec. > > Could be a link in between, could have been the server itself.

If you do a trace on the server, it's location might have something to do with it, looks like it's located in Finland or something, not too surprising :-), meaning we here in Europe will have excellent connections, while you US based guys will suffer what we usually suffer, the Trans Atlantic bottleneck... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Jacob Butner wrote: > > Remember, unless you live in Finland (Where the server is) the xfer won't be > that fast... DOH ! Guess I should have read the whole thread before replying to Cliff :-), but it will be fast to almost anywhere in Europe, as the connection to Finland is rather excellent, I should buy some shares in Nokia probably :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

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> Jacob Butner wrote: > > > > Remember, unless you live in Finland (Where the server is) the xfer won't be > > that fast... > > DOH ! > > Guess I should have read the whole thread before replying to Cliff :-), > but it will be fast to almost anywhere in Europe, as the connection to > Finland is rather excellent, I should buy some shares in Nokia probably > :-)

Well, I still had to wait for one and a half hour here in Trondheim, Norway :P -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

1 and a half hours on my 56k connection

Hey, anyone else notice how odd these cars look in the movie? I mean they have closed cockpits, fenders, bright colors with logos and such. I wonder what kind of upgrade this is for GPL? SLG (Yes, being a smartass again!) Robert Allen <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Blackhole Motorsports has the N4 movie available for download. > > > > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/ > > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

"Olav K. Malmin" wrote: > > Well, I still had to wait for one and a half hour here in Trondheim, > Norway :P 56k dial up ? :-) I used both ISDN channels at home, Moss, and I think I had 12k + all the time, didn't time it though as I was was watching the footy game at the same time...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

1 and a half hours on my 56k connection "Robert Allen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Blackhole Motorsports has the N4 movie available for download. > > > > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/ > > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network

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200 kilobits or kilobytes? When I get my ADSL I should have 604 kilobits per second :) Thanks, Alex Cliff Roman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:t30S4.1373$[email hidden]... > You have to remember that no matter how fast your cable is, you are alsoat

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> the mercy of links in between you and the destination. > > I am on a cable that I have seen pull down files at over 200k/sec, but in > getting the video from www.bhmotorsports.com I averaged about 15k/sec. > > Could be a link in between, could have been the server itself. > > > "Napoleon BlownApart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:I4%R4.685$[email hidden]... > > > > Sounds like you might have a speed problem with your cable service. I

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> it > > with my cable connection in under 5 minutes. > > > > I averaged about 130/kbps > > > > Check this site out for cable tweaking and info... > > http://www.speedguide.net/ > > > > and for a little other info go to: > > > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/viper8/cable.htm > > > > > > > > > >

here 40 min thinking about doing it, but never started ;-) BTW 33,6 K analog :-( Jens On Tue, 09 May 2000 20:15:38 GMT, "Eddie Pettit" <eddie@pro<deleteme>racingclub.com> wrote: >29 mins 1 sec on cable here. > --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes

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> Hey, anyone else notice how odd these cars look in the movie? I mean > they have closed cockpits, fenders, bright colors with logos and such. > > I wonder what kind of upgrade this is for GPL? > > SLG > (Yes, being a smartass again!) >

Finally, a bit more discussion of the movie itself, instead of endlessly comparing download times like they were fast laps :-) I think it looks superb. The dynamic shadows are quite nice, and the cars look real, with just the right amount of shine. I'm surprised there was no smoke... hope that doesn't mean it's a performance killer at the moment, but then again the final release is many months away. The one thing I really like is the angle of the cars in the corners... hard to describe, but it just looks right when compared to real NASCAR racers slipping (not sliding) around the corners. I'm not a NASCAR fan, but I am looking forward to this one. Stephen Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> writes: > "Olav K. Malmin" wrote: > > > > Well, I still had to wait for one and a half hour here in Trondheim, > > Norway :P > > 56k dial up ? :-) No, LAN here at work :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

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> > Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> writes: > > > "Olav K. Malmin" wrote: > > > > > > Well, I still had to wait for one and a half hour here in Trondheim, > > > Norway :P > > > > 56k dial up ? :-) > > No, LAN here at work :)

Ouch.....do you all share a 28.8 modem for your internet needs ? :-))) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

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> "Olav K. Malmin" wrote: > > > > Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > "Olav K. Malmin" wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, I still had to wait for one and a half hour here in Trondheim, > > > > Norway :P > > > > > > 56k dial up ? :-) > > > > No, LAN here at work :) > > Ouch.....do you all share a 28.8 modem for your internet needs ? :-))) >

Hehe, I guess that would suit my employer's high tech research profile very well :)) -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

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> > Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> writes: > > > "Olav K. Malmin" wrote: > > > > > > Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > > > "Olav K. Malmin" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Well, I still had to wait for one and a half hour here in Trondheim, > > > > > Norway :P > > > > > > > > 56k dial up ? :-) > > > > > > No, LAN here at work :) > > > > Ouch.....do you all share a 28.8 modem for your internet needs ? :-))) > > > > Hehe, I guess that would suit my employer's high tech research profile > very well :))

LOL, yeah, I noticed :-), you guys use Eltele as your ISP or something, almost no uptime, and whenever it is up, it's slow ? :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> writes: > > Hehe, I guess that would suit my employer's high tech research profile > > very well :)) > > LOL, yeah, I noticed :-), you guys use Eltele as your ISP or something, > almost no uptime, and whenever it is up, it's slow ? :-) Now we're getting seriously offtopic :) I don't know what Eltele is, Runit is managing our computers and networks and I think they are pretty directly connected to Uninett who should have enough bandwidth. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

"Olav K. Malmin" wrote: > > Now we're getting seriously offtopic :) I don't know what Eltele is, > Runit is managing our computers and networks and I think they are > pretty directly connected to Uninett who should have enough bandwidth. Naa, since I sometimes play games from the shop here, sorting out what ISP's to use is not OT :-) Stay clear of Eltele, it's cheap and you get what you pay for, .5 mbit line that's down a lot, and their connection across the Atlantic sucks even more...what more can you ask for Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Yes, I noticed the cars actually look like they are on the track, not near the track. The movie looked as if I was watching TNN on Sunday. I was very impressed. Wonder what CPU/Video will be needed to get good FPS. I also hope it is an improvement on the Nascar 1 (2,3) sim that has just had graphics rehashed for the last few years. Makes me wonder what they could do with a IndyCar/Cart Racing 3. Too bad. SLG (Steve, who likes to turn more than left, but does not knock what other like!) [email hidden] wrote:

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>Finally, a bit more discussion of the movie itself, instead of >endlessly comparing download times like they were fast laps :-) > >I think it looks superb. The dynamic shadows are quite nice, and the >cars look real, with just the right amount of shine. I'm surprised >there was no smoke... hope that doesn't mean it's a performance killer >at the moment, but then again the final release is many months away. >The one thing I really like is the angle of the cars in the corners... >hard to describe, but it just looks right when compared to real NASCAR >racers slipping (not sliding) around the corners. I'm not a NASCAR >fan, but I am looking forward to this one. > >Stephen

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)