Has it been decided?
-Larry
Flame warRASCAR schedule question erupts into wrecking accusations
Larry asked what the RASCAR league was racing that week. A former member then called the league a shadow of itself, which led to accusations of intentional wrecking between Mitch_A and fredrickson. John Simmons and David G Fisher also traded insults about trust on track. Tony Rickard and Jan Verschueren tried to calm things down, and Larry complained that his thread had been hijacked.
Automated summary.
Damn Larry. Not again.
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> Has it been decided?
>
> -Larry
>
>
David G Fisher wrote:
Man just when I managed to get DAve in my sights and I lost it off the T2
hairpin. Wasnt much of a spin either, over corrected a bit and just when I
thought I had it saved my RR touched the dirt and I went for one of those
lazy 180's. Grrrrrr. What happened to Ellrikk and Larry?
I tried to grab the new GTp version but every host seemed capped at <6k/s.
Even Bittorent was stinkin it up. I did the math, 370MB at 6K in less than
half hour. No go ;)
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> Damn Larry. Not again. > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:PY8Nd.54996$jn.33144@lakeread06... >> Has it been decided? >> >> -Larry >> >>Sorry, I'm still trying to get used to the new BBS and it's hard to tell
what's new and what isn't :).... Especially what's new and what isn't.
-Larry
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> Damn Larry. Not again. > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:PY8Nd.54996$jn.33144@lakeread06... >> Has it been decided? >> >> -Larry >> >> > >I don't know about Elrick, but Larry sucks at Road Courses. That's what
happened to Larry.
You were looking forward for me, you should have been looking backwards for
the smoke :)
-Larry
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> David G Fisher wrote: > >> Damn Larry. Not again. >> >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:PY8Nd.54996$jn.33144@lakeread06... >>> Has it been decided? >>> >>> -Larry >>> >>> > > Man just when I managed to get DAve in my sights and I lost it off the T2 > hairpin. Wasnt much of a spin either, over corrected a bit and just when > I > thought I had it saved my RR touched the dirt and I went for one of those > lazy 180's. Grrrrrr. What happened to Ellrikk and Larry? > > I tried to grab the new GTp version but every host seemed capped at <6k/s. > Even Bittorent was stinkin it up. I did the math, 370MB at 6K in less > than > half hour. No go ;) > > Mitch > -- > Remove "nospam." to reply. > SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a
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> thought I had it saved my RR touched the dirt and I went for one of those
> lazy 180's. Grrrrrr. What happened to Ellrikk and Larry?
snip
> Mitch
I accidently started the race with a whopping 6 laps of fuel. Ran out of
gas, coasted to a halt and had to withdraw.
Elrikk
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> David G Fisher wrote: > > > Damn Larry. Not again. > > > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:PY8Nd.54996$jn.33144@lakeread06... > >> Has it been decided? > >> > >> -Larry > >> > >> > > Man just when I managed to get DAve in my sights and I lost it off the T2 > hairpin. Wasnt much of a spin either, over corrected a bit and just when
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> Man just when I managed to get DAve in my sights and I lost it off the T2 > hairpin. Wasnt much of a spin either, over corrected a bit and just when I > thought I had it saved my RR touched the dirt and I went for one of those > lazy 180's. Grrrrrr. What happened to Ellrikk and Larry? > > I tried to grab the new GTp version but every host seemed capped at <6k/s. > Even Bittorent was stinkin it up. I did the math, 370MB at 6K in less than > half hour. No go ;) > > Mitchelrikk wrote:
Thats too bad you looked really fast!
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> > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:CibNd.781$[email hidden]... >> David G Fisher wrote: >> >> > Damn Larry. Not again. >> > >> > >> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:PY8Nd.54996$jn.33144@lakeread06... >> >> Has it been decided? >> >> >> >> -Larry >> >> >> >> >> >> Man just when I managed to get DAve in my sights and I lost it off the T2 >> hairpin. Wasnt much of a spin either, over corrected a bit and just when > I >> thought I had it saved my RR touched the dirt and I went for one of those >> lazy 180's. Grrrrrr. What happened to Ellrikk and Larry? > > snip > >> Mitch > > > I accidently started the race with a whopping 6 laps of fuel. Ran out of > gas, coasted to a halt and had to withdraw. > > Elrikk You don't even know what it is moron. Go back to trolling the fs ng.
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>
> RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self
>
> > Man just when I managed to get DAve in my sights and I lost it off theT2
> > hairpin. Wasnt much of a spin either, over corrected a bit and justwhen I
> > thought I had it saved my RR touched the dirt and I went for one ofthose
> > lazy 180's. Grrrrrr. What happened to Ellrikk and Larry?
> >
> > I tried to grab the new GTp version but every host seemed capped at<6k/s.
> > Even Bittorent was stinkin it up. I did the math, 370MB at 6K in lessthan
> > half hour. No go ;)
> >
> > Mitch
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> RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self
>[snip]
I really don't know what your problem is Fred. You used to race with us and
seemed to enjoy it. There's another forum due to the recent demise (and then
reincarnation) of RSC - all the info is there. More importantly, the Winter
season is always a bit 'last minute' as we traditionally mess around with
new/different sims. Your right in one sense though - it has changed - those
that race don't bitch and whine any more - it's a very pleasant atmosphere
to race in.
You've clearly got some personal issues here of which I'm unaware but I feel
you probably owe a little to those you used to race with and show a little
class/restraint. Better still, get involved next season and help make it
what you want it to be.
Regards
Neil Charlton wrote:
I have kept my MOUTH SHUT THIS WHOLE TIME. I am gonna speak out. IT IS
INCONCEVABLE THAT NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. AFTER BEING WRECKED TIME
AFTER TIME BY MITCH, I COULD NOT SIT BYA ND ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE
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> "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hjfNd.17153$[email hidden]... > >>RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self >> > > [snip] > > I really don't know what your problem is Fred. You used to race with us and > seemed to enjoy it. There's another forum due to the recent demise (and then > reincarnation) of RSC - all the info is there. More importantly, the Winter > season is always a bit 'last minute' as we traditionally mess around with > new/different sims. Your right in one sense though - it has changed - those > that race don't bitch and whine any more - it's a very pleasant atmosphere > to race in. > > You've clearly got some personal issues here of which I'm unaware but I feel > you probably owe a little to those you used to race with and show a little > class/restraint. Better still, get involved next season and help make it > what you want it to be. > > Regards
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Ahh well, I tried :(
Regards
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> Neil Charlton wrote: >> "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:hjfNd.17153$[email hidden]... >> >>>RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self >>> >> >> [snip] >> >> I really don't know what your problem is Fred. You used to race with us >> and seemed to enjoy it. There's another forum due to the recent demise >> (and then reincarnation) of RSC - all the info is there. More >> importantly, the Winter season is always a bit 'last minute' as we >> traditionally mess around with new/different sims. Your right in one >> sense though - it has changed - those that race don't bitch and whine any >> more - it's a very pleasant atmosphere to race in. >> >> You've clearly got some personal issues here of which I'm unaware but I >> feel you probably owe a little to those you used to race with and show a >> little class/restraint. Better still, get involved next season and help >> make it what you want it to be. >> >> Regards > > I have kept my MOUTH SHUT THIS WHOLE TIME. I am gonna speak out. IT IS > INCONCEVABLE THAT NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. AFTER BEING WRECKED TIME > AFTER TIME BY MITCH, I COULD NOT SIT BYA ND ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUELet's see... fredrickson races in it (or at least used too), so I would
think he knows what it is. I guess that makes you not only a bigger
moron, but an ashhole, too.
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> You don't even know what it is moron. Go back to trolling the fs ng. > > > "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hjfNd.17153$[email hidden]... > > > > RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self > >In article <cu4vff$4b0$[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...
Last I checked, we were all entitled to our own opinions. I don't know
why frederickson said that, but I'm sure he's got at least one reason.
> You've clearly got some personal issues here of which I'm unaware but I feel
> you probably owe a little to those you used to race with and show a little
> class/restraint.
I think he showed quite a bit of restraint - certainly more than I did.
:)
> Better still, get involved next season and help make it
> what you want it to be.
Now THAT'S FUNNY! I didn't know you had a comedic streak Neil.
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> > "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hjfNd.17153$[email hidden]... > > > > RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self > > > [snip] > > I really don't know what your problem is Fred. You used to race with us and > seemed to enjoy it. There's another forum due to the recent demise (and then > reincarnation) of RSC - all the info is there. More importantly, the Winter > season is always a bit 'last minute' as we traditionally mess around with > new/different sims. Your right in one sense though - it has changed - those > that race don't bitch and whine any more - it's a very pleasant atmosphere > to race in.
He raced in two out of 36 official races this past season.
Don't you have Fat Ass Racing League to keep you occupied......"asshole"?
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> Let's see... fredrickson races in it (or at least used too), so I would
> think he knows what it is. I guess that makes you not only a bigger
> moron, but an ashhole, too.
>
> In article <HTfNd.38$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
> > You don't even know what it is moron. Go back to trolling the fs ng.
> >
> >
> > "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:hjfNd.17153$[email hidden]...
> > >
> > > RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self
> > >
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> > seemed to enjoy it. There's another forum due to the recent demise (andthen
> > reincarnation) of RSC - all the info is there. More importantly, theWinter
> > season is always a bit 'last minute' as we traditionally mess aroundwith
> > new/different sims. Your right in one sense though - it has changed -those
> > that race don't bitch and whine any more - it's a very pleasantatmosphere
> > to race in.
> >
> > You've clearly got some personal issues here of which I'm unaware but Ifeel
> > you probably owe a little to those you used to race with and show alittle
I had NO IDEA what the problem was. You should of just said something. :-)
I'd bet my right arm it was just bad luck and nothing intentional. The two
of you got mad......things were said.....usual stuff.
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> Neil Charlton wrote: > > "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:hjfNd.17153$[email hidden]... > > > >>RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self > >> > > > > [snip] > > > > I really don't know what your problem is Fred. You used to race with usQuoted text (8 lines)
> > class/restraint. Better still, get involved next season and help make it > > what you want it to be. > > > > Regards > > I have kept my MOUTH SHUT THIS WHOLE TIME. I am gonna speak out. IT IS > INCONCEVABLE THAT NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. AFTER BEING WRECKED TIME > AFTER TIME BY MITCH, I COULD NOT SIT BYA ND ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE My, still a bit touchy about the rascar subject, eh ?
p.s. two attended races, out of how many dozen, makes one an expert ?
Since I have never been in a rascar race, I then must at least be up to
"informed opinion" status, using your criteria.
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> Let's see... fredrickson races in it (or at least used too), so I would > think he knows what it is. I guess that makes you not only a bigger > moron, but an ashhole, too. > > In article <HTfNd.38$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > You don't even know what it is moron. Go back to trolling the fs ng. > > > > > > "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:hjfNd.17153$[email hidden]... > > > > > > RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self > > >In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
>
>
> He raced in two out of 36 official races this past season.
>
> Don't you have Fat Ass Racing League to keep you occupied......"asshole"?
>
Wow Dave, you're still aas big of a prick as you ever were. I wasn't
referring to you (notice I never once used the term dickhead), and I
sure as hell wasn't talking TO you.
So why don't you just go back to your corner and continue picking your
nose...
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>
> I had NO IDEA what the problem was. You should of just said something. :-)
>
> I'd bet my right arm it was just bad luck and nothing intentional. The two
> of you got mad......things were said.....usual stuff.
Me and Mitch had the same problem, but I wouldn't mind sharing a racing
surface with Mitch again, as long as you weren't in any way involved in
the race because I just outright don't trust you Dave.
Maybe there's more to frederickson's statement than just racing
inicidents with Mitch...
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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
> >
> > I had NO IDEA what the problem was. You should of just said something.:-)
> >
> > I'd bet my right arm it was just bad luck and nothing intentional. Thetwo
Maybe your league is a mess. See how easy it is?
Find another person who doesn't trust me on the track. Just one.
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> > of you got mad......things were said.....usual stuff. > > Me and Mitch had the same problem, but I wouldn't mind sharing a racing > surface with Mitch again, as long as you weren't in any way involved in > the race because I just outright don't trust you Dave. > > Maybe there's more to frederickson's statement than just racing > inicidents with Mitch...In article <RcqNd.47$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
> My, still a bit touchy about the rascar subject, eh ?
>
> p.s. two attended races, out of how many dozen, makes one an expert ?
> Since I have never been in a rascar race, I then must at least be up to
> "informed opinion" status, using your criteria.
He raced plenty before the previous season and even before THAT season,
so yeah, you are relatively uninformed. I used to race there, so I'm
certainly informed.
Touchy? No. I've left most of the RASCAR threads alone over the last
year or more), but when someone like you makes outright bogus statements
about someone who does in fact have some factual basis before stating an
opinion, I'm gonna jump in an offer my typical acidic version of
history, whether you or Dave (or anyone else for that matter)
appreciates it or not.
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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
> >
> >
> > He raced in two out of 36 official races this past season.
> >
> > Don't you have Fat Ass Racing League to keep youoccupied......"asshole"?
All I did was quote you and look how you react.
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> > > > > Wow Dave, you're still aas big of a prick as you ever were. I wasn't > referring to you (notice I never once used the term dickhead), and I > sure as hell wasn't talking TO you. > > So why don't you just go back to your corner and continue picking your > nose..."David G Fisher" wrote...
>> <snip>
>
> Find another person who doesn't trust me on the track. Just one.
Err... <vwg>
No, seriously, you have gotten smarter in a race sense and Mitch has
improved a lot overall. I don't see there being a problem actually racing
either of you at the moment.
Mistakes will happen, obviously, but overall the quality of driving in
RASCAR has definately improved.
Jan.
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What league?
> Find another person who doesn't trust me on the track. Just one.
I can't speak for everyone else (and I certainly didn't imply that) Dave
- this is my own personal thing. Work on your reading comprehension
skills.
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> > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > > > > > I had NO IDEA what the problem was. You should of just said something. > :-) > > > > > > I'd bet my right arm it was just bad luck and nothing intentional. The > two > > > of you got mad......things were said.....usual stuff. > > > > Me and Mitch had the same problem, but I wouldn't mind sharing a racing > > surface with Mitch again, as long as you weren't in any way involved in > > the race because I just outright don't trust you Dave. > > > > Maybe there's more to frederickson's statement than just racing > > inicidents with Mitch... > > Maybe your league is a mess. See how easy it is?
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> In article <RcqNd.47$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
> > My, still a bit touchy about the rascar subject, eh ?
> >
> > p.s. two attended races, out of how many dozen, makes one an expert?
<laughter>
Well, if you feel the right to defend a usenet troll like him, that
explains a lot of things.
Interestingly enough, he doesn't seem to feel the need himself....
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> > Since I have never been in a rascar race, I then must at least be up to > > "informed opinion" status, using your criteria. > > He raced plenty before the previous season and even before THAT season, > so yeah, you are relatively uninformed. I used to race there, so I'm > certainly informed. > > Touchy? No. I've left most of the RASCAR threads alone over the last > year or more), but when someone like you makes outright bogus statements > about someone who does in fact have some factual basis before stating an > opinion, I'm gonna jump in an offer my typical acidic version of > history, whether you or Dave (or anyone else for that matter) > appreciates it or not. >John Simmons wrote:
Except the little fuck comes into races just to wreck me. I tried to have
him removed from the invite list but most felt discretion is the better
part of valor. To an extent this made me not want to run anymore.
>
>> You've clearly got some personal issues here of which I'm unaware but I
>> feel you probably owe a little to those you used to race with and show a
>> little class/restraint.
This POS wouldnt know class and respect if they lived next door.
> I think he showed quite a bit of restraint - certainly more than I did.
> :)
Youre not seeing the entire picture.
>
>> Better still, get involved next season and help make it
>> what you want it to be.
>
> Now THAT'S FUNNY! I didn't know you had a comedic streak Neil.
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> In article <cu4vff$4b0$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... >> >> "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:hjfNd.17153$[email hidden]... >> > >> > RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self >> > >> [snip] >> >> I really don't know what your problem is Fred. You used to race with us >> and seemed to enjoy it. There's another forum due to the recent demise >> (and then reincarnation) of RSC - all the info is there. More >> importantly, the Winter season is always a bit 'last minute' as we >> traditionally mess around with new/different sims. Your right in one >> sense though - it has changed - those that race don't bitch and whine any >> more - it's a very pleasant atmosphere to race in. > > Last I checked, we were all entitled to our own opinions. I don't know > why frederickson said that, but I'm sure he's got at least one reason.fredrickson wrote:
Thats funny you little fucking whore... Show a replay. What the only one
you have is you laps down taking me out of 2nd at Kansas purposefully. Ask
Oster.
You little fuck, you better hope we never meet cuaser I will FUCk YOU UP!
Mitch
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> Neil Charlton wrote: >> "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:hjfNd.17153$[email hidden]... >> >>>RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self >>> >> >> [snip] >> >> I really don't know what your problem is Fred. You used to race with us >> and seemed to enjoy it. There's another forum due to the recent demise >> (and then reincarnation) of RSC - all the info is there. More >> importantly, the Winter season is always a bit 'last minute' as we >> traditionally mess around with new/different sims. Your right in one >> sense though - it has changed - those that race don't bitch and whine any >> more - it's a very pleasant atmosphere to race in. >> >> You've clearly got some personal issues here of which I'm unaware but I >> feel you probably owe a little to those you used to race with and show a >> little class/restraint. Better still, get involved next season and help >> make it what you want it to be. >> >> Regards > > I have kept my MOUTH SHUT THIS WHOLE TIME. I am gonna speak out. IT IS > INCONCEVABLE THAT NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. AFTER BEING WRECKED TIME > AFTER TIME BY MITCH, I COULD NOT SIT BYA ND ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUEDavid G Fisher wrote:
Gee, I tried to have hom removed from the invite list yet you dont know
there is a problem???
Bullshit, he intentionally wrecked me and I left before I let loose on his
lame ass.
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> > "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:XCoNd.17968$[email hidden]... >> Neil Charlton wrote: >> > "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:hjfNd.17153$[email hidden]... >> > >> >>RASCAR is a pathetic shadow of its former self >> >> >> > >> > [snip] >> > >> > I really don't know what your problem is Fred. You used to race with us > and >> > seemed to enjoy it. There's another forum due to the recent demise (and > then >> > reincarnation) of RSC - all the info is there. More importantly, the > Winter >> > season is always a bit 'last minute' as we traditionally mess around > with >> > new/different sims. Your right in one sense though - it has changed - > those >> > that race don't bitch and whine any more - it's a very pleasant > atmosphere >> > to race in. >> > >> > You've clearly got some personal issues here of which I'm unaware but I > feel >> > you probably owe a little to those you used to race with and show a > little >> > class/restraint. Better still, get involved next season and help make >> > it what you want it to be. >> > >> > Regards >> >> I have kept my MOUTH SHUT THIS WHOLE TIME. I am gonna speak out. IT IS >> INCONCEVABLE THAT NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. AFTER BEING WRECKED TIME >> AFTER TIME BY MITCH, I COULD NOT SIT BYA ND ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE > > I had NO IDEA what the problem was. You should of just said something. :-) > > I'd bet my right arm it was just bad luck and nothing intentional. The two > of you got mad......things were said.....usual stuff.Interesting thread here.
After reading the responses from the "administrators", I bet no one can
guess why I stopped. ;-)
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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... >> >> I had NO IDEA what the problem was. You should of just said something. >> :-) >> >> I'd bet my right arm it was just bad luck and nothing intentional. The >> two of you got mad......things were said.....usual stuff. > > Me and Mitch had the same problem, but I wouldn't mind sharing a racing > surface with Mitch again, as long as you weren't in any way involved in > the race because I just outright don't trust you Dave. > > Maybe there's more to frederickson's statement than just racing > inicidents with Mitch...Jan Verschueren wrote:
The problem is this was no mistake. He took me out period.
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> "David G Fisher" wrote... >>> <snip> >> >> Find another person who doesn't trust me on the track. Just one. > > Err... <vwg> > > No, seriously, you have gotten smarter in a race sense and Mitch has > improved a lot overall. I don't see there being a problem actually racing > either of you at the moment. > > Mistakes will happen, obviously, but overall the quality of driving in > RASCAR has definately improved. > > Jan. > =---
"ZZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:42065713$[email hidden]...
Yes, interesting. The administrator who you did like to race under says to
people "moron", "asshole", "prick", "dickhead", "go back to your corner and
continue picking your nose", and I said what that was so bad?
Quotes?
Now I know why RASCAR runs so smoothly this past year.
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> Interesting thread here. > > After reading the responses from the "administrators", I bet no one can > guess why I stopped. ;-) > > > -- > Richard "ZZ" Busch
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> > I'd bet my right arm it was just bad luck and nothing intentional. Thetwo
I knew you guys had an incident back in June. Completely forgot about the
invite list until this post.
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> > of you got mad......things were said.....usual stuff. > > Gee, I tried to have hom removed from the invite list yet you dont know > there is a problem??? > > Bullshit, he intentionally wrecked me and I left before I let loose on his > lame ass. > > Mitch
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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18 months later and John's still trying to make people think I wrecked him
once upon a time. He already lost that one.
I don't race any differently now than I have in the past, so not
sure what you've seen. There just aren't any more sloppy drivers like John
in RASCAR to deal with. On ovals, a driver like him is often a handful and
patience is key, but on rc's I'd only
have to dodge him maybe twice a race as I lap him.
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> "David G Fisher" wrote... > >> <snip> > > > > Find another person who doesn't trust me on the track. Just one. > > Err... <vwg> > > No, seriously, you have gotten smarter in a race sense and Mitch has > improved a lot overall. I don't see there being a problem actually racing > either of you at the moment. > > Mistakes will happen, obviously, but overall the quality of driving in > RASCAR has definately improved. > > Jan."Mitch_A" wrote...
>>>> <snip>
>
> The problem is this was no mistake. He took me out period.
Then not the action, but the decision to take you out was a mistake.
I was talking about upcoming races though.
Jan.
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Jan Verschueren wrote:
After some of his posting/rambling on the FS NG I had a feeling he was gonna
do something retarded and he sure did. His inability to string together
two coherent sentences or come up with an original thought have given him
his only recourse which is to ruin my RASCAR experience as much as possible
in retaliation for his many shortcomings as a man.
Mitch
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> "Mitch_A" wrote... >>>>> <snip> >> >> The problem is this was no mistake. He took me out period. > > Then not the action, but the decision to take you out was a mistake. > > I was talking about upcoming races though. > > Jan. > =---"David G Fisher" wrote...
Obviously, this isn't something you'd notice yourself, but I feel you have
gotten a lot more deliberate in what you do, whereas before I got the
impression that, e.g., passing another driver was more of a reflex action,
with your natural ability dealing with the consequences of that snap
decision as they arose.
> There just aren't any more sloppy drivers like John
> in RASCAR to deal with.
While I wouldn't call John sloppy as a stock car driver, just intolerant of
an "A to B asap"-mentality. I also think that, while you raced together, you
weren't really equipped to deal with him. I'm sure it would be a lot easier
for you now, provided you were able to bury the history.
> On ovals, a driver like him is often a handful and
> patience is key, but on rc's I'd only
> have to dodge him maybe twice a race as I lap him.
At that time, it wasn't even a given you'd beat me on an oval. In view of
the progression I've made over the same period, I think it's quite telling
you now manage that easily 95% of the time. Even though it appears to you as
if you still approach the races in the same way.
Jan.
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>> <snip> > 18 months later and John's still trying to make people > think I wrecked him once upon a time. He already lost > that one. > > I don't race any differently now than I have in the > past, so not sure what you've seen.In article <t7zNd.5196$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
>
> While I wouldn't call John sloppy as a stock car driver, just intolerant of
> an "A to B asap"-mentality. I also think that, while you raced together, you
> weren't really equipped to deal with him. I'm sure it would be a lot easier
> for you now, provided you were able to bury the history.
That's what I was talking about. I merely said that I don't want to
race with him because his such a dickhead, and I doubt very much that he
could, in fact, "bury the history".
I never once claimed that Dave wrecked me "once upon a time", and I
can't really recall a time when I wasn't comfortable with Dave being
behind me (which he was quite often).
I'm not really intolerant of the "a-to-b asap" mentality as I am with
the "punt anyone that gets in my way" mentality and unsportsmanlike
moves (like causing a driver a black flag by brakechecking on a
restart).
Now, before Dave blows a gasket (as he is prone to do), I'm not saying
Dave uses those techniques. See I can be sensitive to Dave's feelings,
even though he's a dickhead. :)
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <t7zNd.5196$[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] says...
> >
> > While I wouldn't call John sloppy as a stock car driver, just intolerantof
> > an "A to B asap"-mentality. I also think that, while you raced together,you
> > weren't really equipped to deal with him. I'm sure it would be a loteasier
> > for you now, provided you were able to bury the history.
>
> That's what I was talking about. I merely said that I don't want to
> race with him because his such a dickhead, and I doubt very much that he
> could, in fact, "bury the history".
"I wouldn't mind sharing a racing
surface with Mitch again, as long as you weren't in any way involved in
the race because I just outright don't trust you Dave."
If you're not trying to mark me as a wrecker by saying you "dont trust" me
on the track, then what are you saying? This should be amusing.
> I never once claimed that Dave wrecked me "once upon a time",
LOL. Amazing. Remember Bristol? Threatening to ban me from RASCAR in front
of the everyone during the practice session for supposedly wrecking you when
in fact it was your weaving all over the track that caused the incidents
(according to those here who reviewed the replay)? Don't forget that Google
exists.
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"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I may have improved a little at N2003 due to repetition, but I've been sim
racing for eight years, so I think it's doubtful I've changed much at all in
the way I approach making a pass of other drivers in just the past year or
so. Unfortunately we usually become more entrenched in our ways and bad
habits as time goes by. :-)
> > There just aren't any more sloppy drivers like John
> > in RASCAR to deal with.
>
> While I wouldn't call John sloppy as a stock car driver,
No, he's not really sloppy. He says I wreck, so I say he's sloppy.
>just intolerant of
> an "A to B asap"-mentality. I also think that, while you raced together,you
> weren't really equipped to deal with him. I'm sure it would be a loteasier
> for you now, provided you were able to bury the history.
I don't remember there being any problems actually until near the end of his
RASCAR adventure.
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David G Fisher
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> "David G Fisher" wrote... > >> <snip> > > 18 months later and John's still trying to make people > > think I wrecked him once upon a time. He already lost > > that one. > > > > I don't race any differently now than I have in the > > past, so not sure what you've seen. > > Obviously, this isn't something you'd notice yourself, but I feel you have > gotten a lot more deliberate in what you do, whereas before I got the > impression that, e.g., passing another driver was more of a reflex action, > with your natural ability dealing with the consequences of that snap > decision as they arose."David G Fisher" wrote:
> No, he's not really sloppy. He says I wreck, so I say he's sloppy.
Which just about sums it up. In my brief affair with Rascar (brief for no
more sinister reason that the times didn't suit me and I'm really not a very
good Nascar driver) in those brief moments I could race with you guys before
I totalled my tyres or got out of synch with pit strategy I would happily
race with either. It was purely (in my view) a personal thing which I doubt
will be buried (you have a choice which real life drivers probably
wouldn't).
To be honest I see no winners or losers here and RAS probably doesn't give a
stuff who wrecked who. Regurgitating it and re-analysing it will never come
to any real conclusion other than you don't get on.
One of the downsides of sim racing is the ability to make instant comments
and wreck cars at no cost. Drivers in real racing may hate each other on
track and even some time after but not have the opportunity to vent their
feelings until after a cooling down period and some words of advice from the
team. Deliberate wrecking to get revenge would not be viewed kindly by the
team boss who has to pay for it.
I remember seeing BTCC drivers John Thompson and Jason Plato (two very good
friends) having a right old go in the pits. Yet it stopped there because
they went their separate ways, didn't have a chat room to wind it up and
cooled down to remain good mates and put it all behind them.
Once heat of the moment insults develop into chat room slagging matches
there seems little going back...
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:07:22 GMT, Tony Rickard wrote:
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> Once heat of the moment insults develop into chat room slagging matches
> there seems little going back...
hear hear! nice post, tony; thanks!
uwe
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As always a voice of reason.
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> On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:07:22 GMT, Tony Rickard wrote: >> >> Once heat of the moment insults develop into chat room slagging matches >> there seems little going back... > > hear hear! nice post, tony; thanks! > uwe > > >
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> "David G Fisher" wrote:
> Once heat of the moment insults develop into chat room slagging matches
> there seems little going back...
Alot of what you say is true.
Bottom line is though, he can call me any name he wants and say I'm a crap
driver......none of that will bother me a bit.
If he says or implies that I wreck (which is a form of cheating) than I'm
going to reply. I've been corresponding with some people on this newsgroup
for eight years now (like yourself), and I'm not going to let garbage like
that just slide by because that kind of nonsense can sometimes stick.
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David G Fisher
> If he says or implies that I wreck (which is a form of cheating) than I'm
> going to reply. I've been corresponding with some people on this newsgroup
> for eight years now (like yourself), and I'm not going to let garbage like
> that just slide by because that kind of nonsense can sometimes stick.
The only true wrecker on RASCAR was Mitch because his goddamn ultra
liberal ass couldnt tolerate my different political views
Good Heavens!
All this from a simple question (admidittedly showing a little
frustration - sorry) ?
To the poster that took this WAY off topic - Please start your own
thread next time and don't hijack mine.
-Larry


































