Re: Where Are we going to find the time for these ???

On Wed 12 Jul 2000 05:30:00am, Doug Hook wrote: <snip> >Ford Racing (US release) Empire Interactive 08/22/00<snip> Holding that back a bit, aren't they? It's already on "de facto budget" over here (which is to say, it's dreadful, and EB are trying to get rid of it). -- David. (GPLRank handicap: +19.68) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

In article <cvSa5.20996$[email hidden]>, "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> writes: >Not to mention the $$$$$$$ ;-) > I count about 9 I'd like to own. At average retail of $39.99, that's about $360. I need a paper route, or somethin'<g>. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I wouldn't say Heat is going to be arcade. It is supposed to have a normal and sim mode that should be competitive physics-wise. The problem is with the 8 player network play. I'd take 8 players for a F1 sim, but for Nascar that doesn't cut it. IMO. Jason. SKurj wrote:

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> Nascar Heat is more aimed towards Arcade players... > > Martyn_D > > "David R. Ericson" wrote: > > > Frank, > > > > ymenard wrote: > > > > > > > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > > > No interest in two Stockcar titles, especially since N4 ports the new > > > Papyrus game engine. > > > > You may want to re-think this decision. Heat ports a refined Viper (MGI) > > game engine re-designed specifically for Nascar cars. I think we'll all be > > very pleasantly surprised by Nascar Heat. Two top-notch Nascar games will > > only make our sim racing experiences better as the developers continue to > > "push the envelope" in future releases. > > > > Dave Ericson > > "MomoBoy" > > JDB Racing

-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL) http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

What's this "Indycar" game? -- -Brett http://www.geocities.com/cartstop Goodbye Greg Moore 1975-1999 "I will see you at the front, and wish me luck..." - Greg Moore Goodbye Adam Petty 1980-2000 "It's all about racing on the track." - Adam Petty Goodbye Kenny Irwin Congratulations to Juan Montoya, 2000 Indy 500 Champ! "While the Indianapolis 500 victory is an impressive achievement one must remember that this is not the race it once was. The opposition was really not up to much in the overall, global scheme of things. The Indy racing League field, whether Tony George and his people like it or not, are not good enough to make it in CART-level competition..." -The Mole (F1 Racing Magazine) Doug Hook <[email hidden]> wrote in article <cvSa5.20996$[email hidden]>... > Not to mention the $$$$$$$ ;-) > > Game Title: Publisher: Date: > SCCA Trans-Am Motorsims ?? > Grand Prix 3 (Europe/Australia) Hasbro Sports 07/28/00 > Dirt Track Racing (Europe) WizardWorks 08/01/00 > F1 Manager 2000 Electronic Arts 08/10/00 > IHRA Drag Racing Bethesda Softworks 08/15/00 > Dirt Track Racing: Sprints WizardWorks 08/18/00 > 4X4 Evolution Terminal Reality 08/22/00 > Ford Racing (US release) Empire Interactive 08/22/00 > Grand Prix 3 (US Release) Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > Racing Madness Bundle Microsoft 09/21/00 > Stunt Grand Prix Hasbro Interactive 09/22/00 > MotorCity Online Electronic Arts 09/27/00 > Skip Barber Racing Bethesda Softworks 09/30/00 > Indycar Paradigm Q3/2000 > Leadfoot Ratbag Games Q3/2000 > Colin McRae Rally 2.0 Codemasters 10/10/00 > The Dukes of Hazzard Southpeak Interactive 10/11/00 > Midtown Madness 2 Microsoft 10/25/00 > Superbike 2001 Electronic Arts 10/15/00 > Isle of Man TT Manx Midas Interactive 10/2000 > Driver II Infogrames 11/01/00 > F1 Racing Simulation 3 Ubisoft 11/02/00 > Rally Racing Simulation Ubisoft 11/02/00 > Insane Codemasters 11/15/00 > NASCAR Racing 4 Papyrus 11/16/00 > Rage Rally Rage Software Q4/2000 > Felony Pursuit THQ 01/15/01 > World Sports Cars Empire Interactive Q1/2001 > Lotus Extreme Challenge Virgin Q1/2001 > > > >

Not to mention the $$$$$$$ ;-) Game Title: Publisher: Date: SCCA Trans-Am Motorsims ?? Grand Prix 3 (Europe/Australia) Hasbro Sports 07/28/00 Dirt Track Racing (Europe) WizardWorks 08/01/00 F1 Manager 2000 Electronic Arts 08/10/00 IHRA Drag Racing Bethesda Softworks 08/15/00 Dirt Track Racing: Sprints WizardWorks 08/18/00 4X4 Evolution Terminal Reality 08/22/00 Ford Racing (US release) Empire Interactive 08/22/00 Grand Prix 3 (US Release) Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 Racing Madness Bundle Microsoft 09/21/00 Stunt Grand Prix Hasbro Interactive 09/22/00 MotorCity Online Electronic Arts 09/27/00 Skip Barber Racing Bethesda Softworks 09/30/00 Indycar Paradigm Q3/2000 Leadfoot Ratbag Games Q3/2000 Colin McRae Rally 2.0 Codemasters 10/10/00 The Dukes of Hazzard Southpeak Interactive 10/11/00 Midtown Madness 2 Microsoft 10/25/00 Superbike 2001 Electronic Arts 10/15/00 Isle of Man TT Manx Midas Interactive 10/2000 Driver II Infogrames 11/01/00 F1 Racing Simulation 3 Ubisoft 11/02/00 Rally Racing Simulation Ubisoft 11/02/00 Insane Codemasters 11/15/00 NASCAR Racing 4 Papyrus 11/16/00 Rage Rally Rage Software Q4/2000 Felony Pursuit THQ 01/15/01 World Sports Cars Empire Interactive Q1/2001 Lotus Extreme Challenge Virgin Q1/2001

By the way, this list was blatantly copied and pasted from this url: http://www.simracingnews.com/games/releases/index.shtml

Looks like maybe 4 or 5 "must haves" ... Doug Hook wrote:

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> Not to mention the $$$$$$$ ;-) > > Game Title: Publisher: Date: > SCCA Trans-Am Motorsims ?? > Grand Prix 3 (Europe/Australia) Hasbro Sports 07/28/00 > Dirt Track Racing (Europe) WizardWorks 08/01/00 > F1 Manager 2000 Electronic Arts 08/10/00 > IHRA Drag Racing Bethesda Softworks 08/15/00 > Dirt Track Racing: Sprints WizardWorks 08/18/00 > 4X4 Evolution Terminal Reality 08/22/00 > Ford Racing (US release) Empire Interactive 08/22/00 > Grand Prix 3 (US Release) Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > Racing Madness Bundle Microsoft 09/21/00 > Stunt Grand Prix Hasbro Interactive 09/22/00 > MotorCity Online Electronic Arts 09/27/00 > Skip Barber Racing Bethesda Softworks 09/30/00 > Indycar Paradigm Q3/2000 > Leadfoot Ratbag Games Q3/2000 > Colin McRae Rally 2.0 Codemasters 10/10/00 > The Dukes of Hazzard Southpeak Interactive 10/11/00 > Midtown Madness 2 Microsoft 10/25/00 > Superbike 2001 Electronic Arts 10/15/00 > Isle of Man TT Manx Midas Interactive 10/2000 > Driver II Infogrames 11/01/00 > F1 Racing Simulation 3 Ubisoft 11/02/00 > Rally Racing Simulation Ubisoft 11/02/00 > Insane Codemasters 11/15/00 > NASCAR Racing 4 Papyrus 11/16/00 > Rage Rally Rage Software Q4/2000 > Felony Pursuit THQ 01/15/01 > World Sports Cars Empire Interactive Q1/2001 > Lotus Extreme Challenge Virgin Q1/2001

"Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> wrote > Not to mention the $$$$$$$ ;-) Pretty easy :) > SCCA Trans-Am Motorsims ??Depends on how they matured from AMA SBK. > Grand Prix 3 (Europe/Australia) Hasbro Sports 07/28/00Depends if it has TCP/IP racing, but that's a buy for sure. > Dirt Track Racing (Europe) WizardWorks 08/01/00Already out > F1 Manager 2000 Electronic Arts 08/10/00Only if it integrates F1 2001, since GPWorld probably is better from all the experience the team has. > IHRA Drag Racing Bethesda Softworks 08/15/00Yawn repackaged title > Dirt Track Racing: Sprints WizardWorks 08/18/00No interest. > 4X4 Evolution Terminal Reality 08/22/00No interest. > Ford Racing (US release) Empire Interactive 08/22/00Not good. > Grand Prix 3 (US Release) Hasbro Sports 08/23/00I'll already have the Euro version ;) > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00No interest in two Stockcar titles, especially since N4 ports the new Papyrus game engine. > Racing Madness Bundle Microsoft 09/21/00? Probably MMM + MXM2 ? > Stunt Grand Prix Hasbro Interactive 09/22/00No pre-release information = bad news > MotorCity Online Electronic Arts 09/27/00No interest in pay@play unless it's a NASCAR sanctionned series > Skip Barber Racing Bethesda Softworks 09/30/00Too early to judge, potentially "ok". > Indycar Paradigm Q3/2000I bet 1$ it's an arcade game > Leadfoot Ratbag Games Q3/2000Depends if the physics are better than in SODA > Colin McRae Rally 2.0 Codemasters 10/10/00No interest, the Rally market is clustered. > The Dukes of Hazzard Southpeak Interactive 10/11/00No interest since it's an arcade game. > Midtown Madness 2 Microsoft 10/25/00No interest, I never liked the game engine. > Superbike 2001 Electronic Arts 10/15/00I don't like the direction they went with SBK2k > Isle of Man TT Manx Midas Interactive 10/2000Arcade game. >Driver II Infogrames 11/01/00Arcade-based physics. Stick to the PSX2 I say to them. > F1 Racing Simulation 3 Ubisoft 11/02/00Same old game engine, why care when we have GP3? > Rally Racing Simulation Ubisoft 11/02/00No interest. > Insane Codemasters 11/15/00Isn't that Breakneck 2 ? > NASCAR Racing 4 Papyrus 11/16/00MMMMMMMMM GPL game engine ported in a new title > Rage Rally Rage Software Q4/2000Arcade-based I guess. > Felony Pursuit THQ 01/15/01Wasn't it renamed something like "Fox's Worst Police chases"? > World Sports Cars Empire Interactive Q1/2001MMMMMMMMM... > Lotus Extreme Challenge Virgin Q1/2001Probably close to the old arcade game in terms of gameplay. -- That was fun ;) -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

What's this "Indycar" game? -- -Brett http://www.geocities.com/cartstop Goodbye Greg Moore 1975-1999 "I will see you at the front, and wish me luck..." - Greg Moore Goodbye Adam Petty 1980-2000 "It's all about racing on the track." - Adam Petty Goodbye Kenny Irwin Congratulations to Juan Montoya, 2000 Indy 500 Champ! "While the Indianapolis 500 victory is an impressive achievement one must remember that this is not the race it once was. The opposition was really not up to much in the overall, global scheme of things. The Indy racing League field, whether Tony George and his people like it or not, are not good enough to make it in CART-level competition..." -The Mole (F1 Racing Magazine)

Pretty easy :) Depends on how they matured from AMA SBK. Depends if it has TCP/IP racing, but that's a buy for sure. Only if it integrates F1 2001, since GPWorld probably is better from all the experience the team has. Yawn repackaged title I'll already have the Euro version ;) No interest in two Stockcar titles, especially since N4 ports the new Papyrus game engine. ? Probably MMM + MXM2 ? No pre-release information = bad news Too early to judge, potentially "ok". I bet 1$ it's an arcade game Depends if the physics are better than in SODA No interest, the Rally market is clustered. No interest since it's an arcade game. No interest, I never liked the game engine. I don't like the direction they went with SBK2k Arcade-based physics. Stick to the PSX2 I say to them. Same old game engine, why care when we have GP3? Isn't that Breakneck 2 ? MMMMMMMMM GPL game engine ported in a new title Arcade-based I guess. Wasn't it renamed something like "Fox's Worst Police chases"? Probably close to the old arcade game in terms of gameplay. -- That was fun ;) -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Frank, ymenard wrote: > > > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > No interest in two Stockcar titles, especially since N4 ports the new > Papyrus game engine. You may want to re-think this decision. Heat ports a refined Viper (MGI) game engine re-designed specifically for Nascar cars. I think we'll all be very pleasantly surprised by Nascar Heat. Two top-notch Nascar games will only make our sim racing experiences better as the developers continue to "push the envelope" in future releases. Dave Ericson "MomoBoy" JDB Racing

Doug Hook wrote: > > Not to mention the $$$$$$$ ;-) We are nutty sim gamers, we don't give a damn how much it costs... ;)

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> Game Title: Publisher: Date: > Grand Prix 3 (Europe/Australia) Hasbro Sports 07/28/00 > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > F1 Racing Simulation 3 Ubisoft 11/02/00 > Rally Racing Simulation Ubisoft 11/02/00 > NASCAR Racing 4 Papyrus 11/16/00 > World Sports Cars Empire Interactive Q1/2001

Okay, I'll need a vacation from end of July 'til end of November! Aaargh... l8er ronny -- |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Oh yeah.......I just cant wait to see what the "Beat the Heat" option is in Nascar Heat.....sounds like an option that is been missing from a true racing sim!.......Beat the heat....rofl Call me a papy nazi if you will, but Viper engine dont hold a candle to the GPL engine. David R. Ericson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Frank, > > ymenard wrote: > > > > > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > > No interest in two Stockcar titles, especially since N4 ports the new > > Papyrus game engine. > > You may want to re-think this decision. Heat ports a refined Viper (MGI) > game engine re-designed specifically for Nascar cars. I think we'll all

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> very pleasantly surprised by Nascar Heat. Two top-notch Nascar games will > only make our sim racing experiences better as the developers continue to > "push the envelope" in future releases. > > Dave Ericson > "MomoBoy" > JDB Racing

Nascar Heat is more aimed towards Arcade players... Martyn_D "David R. Ericson" wrote:

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> Frank, > > ymenard wrote: > > > > > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > > No interest in two Stockcar titles, especially since N4 ports the new > > Papyrus game engine. > > You may want to re-think this decision. Heat ports a refined Viper (MGI) > game engine re-designed specifically for Nascar cars. I think we'll all be > very pleasantly surprised by Nascar Heat. Two top-notch Nascar games will > only make our sim racing experiences better as the developers continue to > "push the envelope" in future releases. > > Dave Ericson > "MomoBoy" > JDB Racing

Well, what can I say John... you're a Papy Nazi. ;-) Just because Heat will have some "other" modes (which you don't HAVE to use), doesn't mean it's sim (expert) mode won't be good. If anyone can pull off a racing game/sim that will appeal to the arcade racer, the casual Nascar fan looking to get into racing games/sims, and the hardcore sim racer, it's MGI/Hasbro. There are enough former Papy employees behind Heat's development that your "Papy Nazi" status may actually require you to try it before completely trashing it's credibility as a sim... ;-) Dave John Tomlinson wrote:

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> > Oh yeah.......I just cant wait to see what the "Beat the Heat" option is in > Nascar Heat.....sounds like an option that is been missing from a true > racing sim!.......Beat the heat....rofl > Call me a papy nazi if you will, but Viper engine dont hold a candle to the > GPL engine. > > David R. Ericson <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Frank, > > > > ymenard wrote: > > > > > > > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > > > No interest in two Stockcar titles, especially since N4 ports the new > > > Papyrus game engine. > > > > You may want to re-think this decision. Heat ports a refined Viper (MGI) > > game engine re-designed specifically for Nascar cars. I think we'll all > be > > very pleasantly surprised by Nascar Heat. Two top-notch Nascar games will > > only make our sim racing experiences better as the developers continue to > > "push the envelope" in future releases. > > > > Dave Ericson > > "MomoBoy" > > JDB Racing

Of all those games, the only ones I know now I will definitely buy is Grand Prix 3, World Sports Car and Nascar 4.

Doug Hook <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cvSa5.20996$[email hidden]...

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> Not to mention the $$$$$$$ ;-) > > Game Title: Publisher: Date: > SCCA Trans-Am Motorsims ?? > Grand Prix 3 (Europe/Australia) Hasbro Sports 07/28/00 > Dirt Track Racing (Europe) WizardWorks 08/01/00 > F1 Manager 2000 Electronic Arts 08/10/00 > IHRA Drag Racing Bethesda Softworks 08/15/00 > Dirt Track Racing: Sprints WizardWorks 08/18/00 > 4X4 Evolution Terminal Reality 08/22/00 > Ford Racing (US release) Empire Interactive 08/22/00 > Grand Prix 3 (US Release) Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > Racing Madness Bundle Microsoft 09/21/00 > Stunt Grand Prix Hasbro Interactive 09/22/00 > MotorCity Online Electronic Arts 09/27/00 > Skip Barber Racing Bethesda Softworks 09/30/00 > Indycar Paradigm Q3/2000 > Leadfoot Ratbag Games Q3/2000 > Colin McRae Rally 2.0 Codemasters 10/10/00 > The Dukes of Hazzard Southpeak Interactive 10/11/00 > Midtown Madness 2 Microsoft 10/25/00 > Superbike 2001 Electronic Arts 10/15/00 > Isle of Man TT Manx Midas Interactive 10/2000 > Driver II Infogrames 11/01/00 > F1 Racing Simulation 3 Ubisoft 11/02/00 > Rally Racing Simulation Ubisoft 11/02/00 > Insane Codemasters 11/15/00 > NASCAR Racing 4 Papyrus 11/16/00 > Rage Rally Rage Software Q4/2000 > Felony Pursuit THQ 01/15/01 > World Sports Cars Empire Interactive Q1/2001 > Lotus Extreme Challenge Virgin Q1/2001 >

Buy GP3 and then just start singing "lalalalalala" when someone tries to tell you another has been released:-)

No... it's aimed at Arcade players AND Sim players. Please read Jeff Downey's interactive preview of Nascar Heat at http://www.operationsports.com/ReviewVault/reviews.asp?game=NASCARHeatpc Jeff's Day 2 notes give a good indication as to what he thought Heat would be like, and how much it surprised him as to how good it really is. Dave SKurj wrote:

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> > Nascar Heat is more aimed towards Arcade players... > > Martyn_D > > "David R. Ericson" wrote: > > > Frank, > > > > ymenard wrote: > > > > > > > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > > > No interest in two Stockcar titles, especially since N4 ports the new > > > Papyrus game engine. > > > > You may want to re-think this decision. Heat ports a refined Viper (MGI) > > game engine re-designed specifically for Nascar cars. I think we'll all be > > very pleasantly surprised by Nascar Heat. Two top-notch Nascar games will > > only make our sim racing experiences better as the developers continue to > > "push the envelope" in future releases. > > > > Dave Ericson > > "MomoBoy" > > JDB Racing

"David R. Ericson" <[email hidden]> wrote > You may want to re-think this decision. Heat ports a refined Viper (MGI) > game engine re-designed specifically for Nascar cars. I think we'll allbe > very pleasantly surprised by Nascar Heat. Two top-notch Nascar games will > only make our sim racing experiences better as the developers continue to > "push the envelope" in future releases. I know all about Nascar Heat be sure about that David. I just don't have time to race two stock-car titles, whatever quality they both have. I will choose the best, and I'm absolutely sure N4 is aimed more towards me than NH. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:32:44 +0100, "GraDee" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >Doug Hook <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:cvSa5.20996$[email hidden]... >> Not to mention the $$$$$$$ ;-) >> >> Game Title: Publisher: Date: >> SCCA Trans-Am Motorsims ?? >> Grand Prix 3 (Europe/Australia) Hasbro Sports 07/28/00 >> Dirt Track Racing (Europe) WizardWorks 08/01/00 >> F1 Manager 2000 Electronic Arts 08/10/00 >> IHRA Drag Racing Bethesda Softworks 08/15/00 >> Dirt Track Racing: Sprints WizardWorks 08/18/00 >> 4X4 Evolution Terminal Reality 08/22/00 >> Ford Racing (US release) Empire Interactive 08/22/00 >> Grand Prix 3 (US Release) Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 >> NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 >> Racing Madness Bundle Microsoft 09/21/00 >> Stunt Grand Prix Hasbro Interactive 09/22/00 >> MotorCity Online Electronic Arts 09/27/00 >> Skip Barber Racing Bethesda Softworks 09/30/00 >> Indycar Paradigm Q3/2000 >> Leadfoot Ratbag Games Q3/2000 >> Colin McRae Rally 2.0 Codemasters 10/10/00 >> The Dukes of Hazzard Southpeak Interactive 10/11/00 >> Midtown Madness 2 Microsoft 10/25/00 >> Superbike 2001 Electronic Arts 10/15/00 >> Isle of Man TT Manx Midas Interactive 10/2000 >> Driver II Infogrames 11/01/00 >> F1 Racing Simulation 3 Ubisoft 11/02/00 >> Rally Racing Simulation Ubisoft 11/02/00 >> Insane Codemasters 11/15/00 >> NASCAR Racing 4 Papyrus 11/16/00 >> Rage Rally Rage Software Q4/2000 >> Felony Pursuit THQ 01/15/01 >> World Sports Cars Empire Interactive Q1/2001 >> Lotus Extreme Challenge Virgin Q1/2001 >> > >Buy GP3 and then just start singing "lalalalalala" when someone tries to >tell you another has been released:-)

Just say 'it's a fun game, but it's no GPL' :) Andre >

In article <82ab5.10110$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in > I count about 9 I'd like to >own. At average retail of $39.99, that's about >> $360. I need a paper route, or somethin'<g>. >> >> Eldred > hmmm, "JUST" $360? What about that new vid card? the Processor upgrade, >motherboard etc. New hard drive to hold all this...CD-RW to backup >everything >High bandwidth internet connection. Fany custom racing chair...etc etc... >dave henrie >

DOH! Um...I'll get back to you... :::looking for pop bottles to refund::: Actually, I'll probably only get a processor and mobo. I don't need the rest. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>Doug Hook <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:cvSa5.20996$[email hidden]... >> Grand Prix 3 (Europe/Australia) Hasbro Sports 07/28/00 Sincerely hope it survives the hype-induced backlash. >> Dirt Track Racing (Europe) WizardWorks 08/01/00 Amazing that this hasn't been released yet in Australia, home of the makers, Ratbag. >> F1 Manager 2000 Electronic Arts 08/10/00 Not a sim, but a management game. >> Dirt Track Racing: Sprints WizardWorks 08/18/00 Will be excellent for dirt/oval fans. >> 4X4 Evolution Terminal Reality 08/22/00 Arcade, but looks good. >> Skip Barber Racing Bethesda Softworks 09/30/00 This could be the sleeper of 2000. >> Indycar Paradigm Q3/2000 Really, Indycar? CART racing? >> Leadfoot Ratbag Games Q3/2000 If you like dirt but hate ovals then maybe this one will rule your world. :) >> Colin McRae Rally 2.0 Codemasters 10/10/00 I hope this is better than RC and RM. >> The Dukes of Hazzard Southpeak Interactive 10/11/00 Arcade, and physics are apparently awful. >> Midtown Madness 2 Microsoft 10/25/00 Arcade. >> Driver II Infogrames 11/01/00 Arcade. >> Rally Racing Simulation Ubisoft 11/02/00 Anxious to see what Ubisoft can do in the rallying dept. >> Insane Codemasters 11/15/00 Arcade, but also looking good. >> World Sports Cars Empire Interactive Q1/2001 This one too will have a lot of hype to overcome. Marko;

"Brett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:01beae50$ac66fd80$ccb38ad1@default... > What's this "Indycar" game? I knew that question would come up. It is Paradigm's N-64 cartridge based on the IRL. NO PC RELEASE! dave henrie

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> > -- > -Brett > http://www.geocities.com/cartstop > Goodbye Greg Moore 1975-1999 > "I will see you at the front, and wish me luck..." - Greg Moore > Goodbye Adam Petty 1980-2000 > "It's all about racing on the track." - Adam Petty > Goodbye Kenny Irwin > Congratulations to Juan Montoya, 2000 Indy 500 Champ! > "While the Indianapolis 500 victory is an impressive achievement > one must remember that this is not the race it once was. The opposition > was really not up to much in the overall, global scheme of things. The > Indy racing League field, whether Tony George and his people like it or > not, > are not good enough to make it in CART-level competition..." -The Mole (F1 > Racing Magazine) > > Doug Hook <[email hidden]> wrote in article > <cvSa5.20996$[email hidden]>... > > Not to mention the $$$$$$$ ;-) > > > > Game Title: Publisher: Date: > > SCCA Trans-Am Motorsims ?? > > Grand Prix 3 (Europe/Australia) Hasbro Sports 07/28/00 > > Dirt Track Racing (Europe) WizardWorks 08/01/00 > > F1 Manager 2000 Electronic Arts 08/10/00 > > IHRA Drag Racing Bethesda Softworks 08/15/00 > > Dirt Track Racing: Sprints WizardWorks 08/18/00 > > 4X4 Evolution Terminal Reality 08/22/00 > > Ford Racing (US release) Empire Interactive 08/22/00 > > Grand Prix 3 (US Release) Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > > NASCAR Heat Hasbro Sports 08/23/00 > > Racing Madness Bundle Microsoft 09/21/00 > > Stunt Grand Prix Hasbro Interactive 09/22/00 > > MotorCity Online Electronic Arts 09/27/00 > > Skip Barber Racing Bethesda Softworks 09/30/00 > > Indycar Paradigm Q3/2000 > > Leadfoot Ratbag Games Q3/2000 > > Colin McRae Rally 2.0 Codemasters 10/10/00 > > The Dukes of Hazzard Southpeak Interactive 10/11/00 > > Midtown Madness 2 Microsoft 10/25/00 > > Superbike 2001 Electronic Arts 10/15/00 > > Isle of Man TT Manx Midas Interactive 10/2000 > > Driver II Infogrames 11/01/00 > > F1 Racing Simulation 3 Ubisoft 11/02/00 > > Rally Racing Simulation Ubisoft 11/02/00 > > Insane Codemasters 11/15/00 > > NASCAR Racing 4 Papyrus 11/16/00 > > Rage Rally Rage Software Q4/2000 > > Felony Pursuit THQ 01/15/01 > > World Sports Cars Empire Interactive Q1/2001 > > Lotus Extreme Challenge Virgin Q1/2001 > > > > > > > >

I have seen somewhere that Ford is sooo Pissed at the lack of quality in Ford Racing that they made them recode the whole sim for it's US release. The trouble is...even if it now is a good sim, the bad word of mouth will kill it. dave henrie "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed 12 Jul 2000 05:30:00am, Doug Hook wrote: > > <snip> > >Ford Racing (US release) Empire Interactive 08/22/00 > <snip> > > Holding that back a bit, aren't they? It's already on "de facto > budget" over here (which is to say, it's dreadful, and EB are trying > to get rid of it). > > -- > David. (GPLRank handicap: +19.68) > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in > I count about 9 I'd like to own. At average retail of $39.99, that's about > $360. I need a paper route, or somethin'<g>. > > Eldred hmmm, "JUST" $360? What about that new vid card? the Processor upgrade, motherboard etc. New hard drive to hold all this...CD-RW to backup everything High bandwidth internet connection. Fany custom racing chair...etc etc... dave henrie

>> Grand Prix 3 (Europe/Australia) Hasbro Sports 07/28/00 Sincerely hope it survives the hype-induced backlash. Amazing that this hasn't been released yet in Australia, home of the makers, Ratbag. Not a sim, but a management game. Will be excellent for dirt/oval fans. Arcade, but looks good. This could be the sleeper of 2000. Really, Indycar? CART racing? If you like dirt but hate ovals then maybe this one will rule your world. :) I hope this is better than RC and RM. Arcade, and physics are apparently awful. Arcade. Arcade. Anxious to see what Ubisoft can do in the rallying dept. Arcade, but also looking good. This one too will have a lot of hype to overcome. Marko;