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Re: GP2 problem..

26 posts by 8 people · 20 Jul 2000 - 22 Jul 2000 15:24 UTC

Grand Prix 2 freezes at race start on new VIA-chipset PC

A user reported that GP2 froze at the start of every race on a new Pentium III with a VIA chipset and TNT2 card, and asked whether VIA chipsets were to blame. Early replies were dismissive, with Greg Cisko telling him to abandon the old DOS game and Jan Verschueren accusing him of laziness before apologising. Others reported GP2 running fine on VIA boards and suggested disabling sound or using SciTech Display Doctor, but no fix was confirmed.

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How about getting off your lazy ass and helping yourself? I have taken the small trouble of investigating the matter a little myself as it shows you up brilliantly. I did a search for "VIA Chipset" on about.com... the first link was the VIA Technologies site. Once the site loaded I clicked on "Drivers" and was transported to this page: http://www.viatech.com/drivers/index.htm Look under "DOS/OS2 Users". -doh! Jan. =--- ExMrBlonde wrote... > >IMHO it is not even worth trying to get GP2 > >to run as it is an old ancient DOS game. > > > Thanks for your opinion, but I REALLY would like to solve this problem,not > waste my time with your shitty posts. > > So can you help me or what ??? > >
Greg Cisko 20 Jul 2000 14:20 UTC#253688
"ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nDd5.15616$[email hidden]... > Hi there all you knowledgable ppl... > > I have just tried installing my old GP2 on my new 'puter bought for GP3, > however, IT WON'T WORK !!! I have a P3 600 and I have heard whispers that > GP2 doesn't like the VIA chipset on the motherboard (which is what Ihave). > Has anyone ever experienced this, and if so, HOW DO I FIX IT ??? Shitcan the game and get something else :-) -- [email hidden]
Greg Cisko 20 Jul 2000 14:50 UTC#253710
Well I like F1 2000 and GP3 is allegedly going to be out in a week or so. IMHO it is not even worth trying to get GP2 to run as it is an old ancient DOS game. -- [email hidden] "ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:s5Ed5.15708$[email hidden]... > > > >Shitcan the game and get something else :-) > > > > How about some REAL help ??? > >
Greg Cisko 20 Jul 2000 15:23 UTC#253729
"ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NmEd5.15737$[email hidden]... > Thanks for your opinion, but I REALLY would like to solve this problem,not > waste my time with your shitty posts. Noted. Just go ahead and killfile me. Make my day :-) > So can you help me or what ??? Sure I can get the game going in DOS. But how did you hear that GP2 would not work with VIA chipsets? -- [email hidden]
Dan Leach 20 Jul 2000 16:10 UTC#253722
Mr cisko obviously has great taste in games (sarcasm) Srry-- cant help you Mr blonde (?) never used VIA chipsets Dan Leach Greg Cisko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VUDd5.34631$[email hidden]... > "ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8nDd5.15616$[email hidden]... > > Hi there all you knowledgable ppl... > > > > I have just tried installing my old GP2 on my new 'puter bought for GP3, > > however, IT WON'T WORK !!! I have a P3 600 and I have heard whispersthat
Quoted text (15 lines)> > GP2 doesn't like the VIA chipset on the motherboard (which is what I > have). > > Has anyone ever experienced this, and if so, HOW DO I FIX IT ??? > > Shitcan the game and get something else :-) > > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > > >
Greg Cisko 20 Jul 2000 17:16 UTC#253556
"ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:INEd5.15743$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > > >Sure I can get the game going in DOS. But how did you hear that > >GP2 would not work with VIA chipsets? > > > > Just a whisper on a chat room I visited.. They weren't sure, although > someone said that he'd heard of 5 other people that this had happened to,
so > I thought I'd ask the 'experts'. Oh well has it occurred to you that the whispers in the chatroom may have thought they were experts. Maybe my cavalier attitude is partially because I simply do not believe their assertions. Further I think Jan Verschueren has given you marvelous advice :-) I do agree with him try it yourself. This is always preferable to what some "expert" says. At least that has been my experience. But wait, since you didn't care about my opinion I am sure you could care less about my experience. -- [email hidden]
John Orrett 20 Jul 2000 19:26 UTC#253579
"ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nDd5.15616$[email hidden]... > Hi there all you knowledgable ppl... > > I have just tried installing my old GP2 on my new 'puter bought for GP3, > however, IT WON'T WORK !!! I have a P3 600 and I have heard whispers that > GP2 doesn't like the VIA chipset on the motherboard (which is what Ihave). > Has anyone ever experienced this, and if so, HOW DO I FIX IT ??? > > > regards, > > Ex No problem at all on my FIC 2013 board with VIA chipset. Runs great in fact. What won't work; does the game not start at all, does it start and freeze at the DOS bit, what OS are you running etc etc. If you are running Windows 2000, then you might well have big probs. Lets try to narrow it down a bit. Have you also tried posting at http://www.alphaf1.com/forum/index.html ? Cheers John
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:08:01 -0500, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons thus:
Quoted text (18 lines)>"ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:ZUVd5.16230$[email hidden]... >> Nvidia/M64/TNT2 >> >> The game does this in both modes SVGA and VGA >> >> I've tried updating all drivers (video, chipset etc) and it still just > >It was very common that old shitty DOS games (similar to my >shitty posts I suppose) did not like new fangled hardware, >specifically new fangled video cards. Try Sci_tech Display >Doctor which will create a sort of wrapper to interface >between an old shitty game and your newfangled video >card. > >If Display Doctor has not been updated for your TNT2 you >are just fucked. Time to give it up ect... Oh and this isn't my >opinion. It is the way it is :-)
I can't answer the problem, but for the record I can run GP2 very happily in either a DOS window or 'pure' DOS. I don't recall offhand what my mobo is (and dammit I bought and fitted the thing myself!!!) but I use a genuine Creative PCI Soundblaster and Guillemot TNT2 M64 running on W98SE... Oh, CPU is AMD K6-2 450mhz, 128MB RAM. Of course I'd love to add more RAM and upgrade the graphics card, but... Martin D. Pay Hoping that his setup will run GP half as well... ^_-
Ok, I confused lack of information with lack of initiative... I apologise. Jan. =--- ExMrBlonde wrote...
Quoted text (7 lines)> <Snip> > Gee, what I would do without you.. Thanks for what I > regard as an 'enlightening' post.. > > > >
Doesn't sound like a chipset problem to me... which graphic card are you using (if on-board what chipset)? -In fact a complete spec of your machine wouldn't be a bad idea at this point, IMO. Does the game do this whether you select SVGA mode or not? Jan. =--- ExMrBlonde wrote...
Quoted text (11 lines)> Thanks John, > > I'm using Win98 and the problem I have is that I can navigate through the > menus in the game, however, when I start a race, be it a championship or > quickrace, the game freezes up. This happens when I run it through either > DOS or Win. > > > Ex > >
Ian Riches 21 Jul 2000#253410
"ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZUVd5.16230$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> OK.. > > Specs are as follows: > > P3 600MHz 133 CPU > M/B GA6VXE7+ FCPGA ATX > 128Mb SDRam > Nvidia/M64/TNT2 > > The game does this in both modes SVGA and VGA > > I've tried updating all drivers (video, chipset etc) and it still just > freezes up on the starting line. The menu navigation is absoloutly fine, > but as soon as the race is to start....FREEZE. > > Thanks for that Jan, and I apologise for being an asshole earlier. But
this > thing is starting to PISS ME OFF !! > > Regards, > > Ex >A longshot (as I don't have GP2), but have you tried running it without sound? I know I've had difficulty getting some old DOS games to work with modern windows soundcards. Might be worth a try, anyway.... Ian Ian Riches Bedford, UK
EldredP 21 Jul 2000#253503
In article <NmEd5.15737$[email hidden]>, "ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (9 lines)>>IMHO it is not even worth trying to get GP2 >>to run as it is an old ancient DOS game. > > >Thanks for your opinion, but I REALLY would like to solve this problem, not >waste my time with your shitty posts. > >So can you help me or what ??? >
Well, you asked a question, he gave you his honest opinion, and you're pissed. Oh well... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
ExMrBlonde 21 Jul 2000 04:44 UTC#253777
Hi there all you knowledgable ppl... I have just tried installing my old GP2 on my new 'puter bought for GP3, however, IT WON'T WORK !!! I have a P3 600 and I have heard whispers that GP2 doesn't like the VIA chipset on the motherboard (which is what I have). Has anyone ever experienced this, and if so, HOW DO I FIX IT ??? regards, Ex
ExMrBlonde 21 Jul 2000 05:34 UTC#253683
> >Shitcan the game and get something else :-) > How about some REAL help ???
ExMrBlonde 21 Jul 2000 05:52 UTC#253684
>IMHO it is not even worth trying to get GP2 >to run as it is an old ancient DOS game. Thanks for your opinion, but I REALLY would like to solve this problem, not waste my time with your shitty posts. So can you help me or what ???
ExMrBlonde 21 Jul 2000 06:21 UTC#253685
> >Sure I can get the game going in DOS. But how did you hear that >GP2 would not work with VIA chipsets? > Just a whisper on a chat room I visited.. They weren't sure, although someone said that he'd heard of 5 other people that this had happened to, so I thought I'd ask the 'experts'.
Greg Cisko 21 Jul 2000 12:00 UTC#253427
Maybe he need to use display doctor??? -- [email hidden] "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Doesn't sound like a chipset problem to me... which graphic card are you > using (if on-board what chipset)? -In fact a complete spec of your machine > wouldn't be a bad idea at this point, IMO. > > Does the game do this whether you select SVGA mode or not? > > Jan. > =--- > ExMrBlonde wrote... > > Thanks John, > > > > I'm using Win98 and the problem I have is that I can navigate through the > > menus in the game, however, when I start a race, be it a championship or > > quickrace, the game freezes up. This happens when I run it through either > > DOS or Win. > > > > > > Ex > > > > > >
Greg Cisko 21 Jul 2000 12:06 UTC#253429
"ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZUVd5.16230$[email hidden]... > Nvidia/M64/TNT2 > > The game does this in both modes SVGA and VGA > > I've tried updating all drivers (video, chipset etc) and it still just It was very common that old shitty DOS games (similar to my shitty posts I suppose) did not like new fangled hardware, specifically new fangled video cards. Try Sci_tech Display Doctor which will create a sort of wrapper to interface between an old shitty game and your newfangled video card. If Display Doctor has not been updated for your TNT2 you are just fucked. Time to give it up ect... Oh and this isn't my opinion. It is the way it is :-) -- [email hidden]
ExMrBlonde 21 Jul 2000 14:46 UTC#253495
Jan Verschueren wrote in message ... >How about getting off your lazy ass and helping yourself? Thanks for that Jan, however, I should let you know that I have already installed all the updated drivers previously, and it STILL won't work. I may not be the smartest guy on the block, but I'm certainly not the laziest. I've tried all the usual stuff to try and rectify the problem, and my last resort was to post a question to this newsgroup, hell, the Microprose customer support centre didn't even help me out. Maybe I should stick to posting about how 'good' I am at GPL, and how my steering wheel is bigger than yours (which seems to be the norm around here) rather than asking a serious question, but thanks anyway...
Quoted text (11 lines)>I have taken the small trouble of investigating the matter a little myself >as it shows you up brilliantly. > >I did a search for "VIA Chipset" on about.com... the first link was the VIA >Technologies site. Once the site loaded I clicked on "Drivers" and was >transported to this page: > >http://www.viatech.com/drivers/index.htm > >Look under "DOS/OS2 Users". -doh! >
Gee, what I would do without you.. Thanks for what I regard as an 'enlightening' post..
ExMrBlonde 21 Jul 2000 16:33 UTC#253515
Thanks John, I'm using Win98 and the problem I have is that I can navigate through the menus in the game, however, when I start a race, be it a championship or quickrace, the game freezes up. This happens when I run it through either DOS or Win. Ex
ExMrBlonde 22 Jul 2000 01:49 UTC#253408
OK.. Specs are as follows: P3 600MHz 133 CPU M/B GA6VXE7+ FCPGA ATX 128Mb SDRam Nvidia/M64/TNT2 The game does this in both modes SVGA and VGA I've tried updating all drivers (video, chipset etc) and it still just freezes up on the starting line. The menu navigation is absoloutly fine, but as soon as the race is to start....FREEZE. Thanks for that Jan, and I apologise for being an asshole earlier. But this thing is starting to PISS ME OFF !! Regards, Ex
Quoted text (8 lines)>Doesn't sound like a chipset problem to me... which graphic card are you >using (if on-board what chipset)? -In fact a complete spec of your machine >wouldn't be a bad idea at this point, IMO. > >Does the game do this whether you select SVGA mode or not? > >Jan. >
ExMrBlonde 22 Jul 2000 02:31 UTC#253417
Thanks Ian. Yeah, I've tried that.. thanks anyway.. Ex Ian Riches wrote in message <8l9ap1$42bc7$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (13 lines)>A longshot (as I don't have GP2), but have you tried running it without >sound? I know I've had difficulty getting some old DOS games to work with >modern windows soundcards. > >Might be worth a try, anyway.... > >Ian > >Ian Riches >Bedford, UK > > >
Greg Cisko 22 Jul 2000 15:24 UTC#252795
If you want to get GP2 working in W98, just go and get GP3. That is apparently all it is anyway :-) -- [email hidden] "ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nDd5.15616$[email hidden]... > Hi there all you knowledgable ppl... > > I have just tried installing my old GP2 on my new 'puter bought for GP3, > however, IT WON'T WORK !!! I have a P3 600 and I have heard whispers that > GP2 doesn't like the VIA chipset on the motherboard (which is what I have). > Has anyone ever experienced this, and if so, HOW DO I FIX IT ??? > > > regards, > > Ex > >

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