GTP Installation

If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an install over a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other mods and it didn;'t react well at all. Timmy

"Timmy Ferrell" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:4zJWd.10226$[email hidden]:

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> > If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an install > over a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other > mods and it didn;'t react well at all. > Timmy > >

I, being a lazy sot and not liking to be told what to do, did the opposite. I installed over my working nr2k3 with tptcc, Ferrari 330 and PWF and Busch mods and guess what...? It works and so far the tptcc mod works too. (I haven't tested the others) I would recomend tho...that you all follow Redline's advice and do a clean install. Better safe than sorry eh? dave henrie

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> "Timmy Ferrell" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:4zJWd.10226$[email hidden]: > > > > > If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an install > > over a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other > > mods and it didn;'t react well at all. > > Timmy > > > >

Did you do second install into another folder? I would like to keep my other mods as is. Can I have 2 installs of N2003? bluestringer

"bluestringer" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:BLJWd.18798$%Y4.6684 @bignews6.bellsouth.net: > Did you do second install into another folder? I would like to keep my > other mods as is. Can I have 2 installs of N2003? > > bluestringer Sure you can and THAT is the recomended method. Acording to the readme, GTP likes a nice clean version of Nr2k3 to play with. dh

If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version. GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car...

"mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version. > GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car... I installed to my existing N2003 install, and now both GTP and N2003 shut down after about a minute of driving. I was lazy. -- David G Fisher

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> > "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version. > > GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car... > > I installed to my existing N2003 install, and now both GTP and N2003 shut > down after about a minute of driving. > > I was lazy. > -- > David G Fisher

I re-installed N2003, and then did a second install to another folder just for GTP. Still closes down before I finish a lap. Love the mod, but it's been a huge pain in the a**. :-) -- David G Fisher

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> > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version. > > > GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car... > > > > I installed to my existing N2003 install, and now both GTP and N2003

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> > down after about a minute of driving. > > > > I was lazy. > > -- > > David G Fisher > > I re-installed N2003, and then did a second install to another folder just > for GTP. Still closes down before I finish a lap. Love the mod, but it's > been a huge pain in the a**. :-) > > > -- > David G Fisher

3d audio was on by default again. My fault for not checking it. Works fine now. -- David G Fisher

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> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>"mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >> >>>If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version. >>>GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car... >> >>I installed to my existing N2003 install, and now both GTP and N2003 shut >>down after about a minute of driving. >> >>I was lazy. >>-- >>David G Fisher > > > I re-installed N2003, and then did a second install to another folder just > for GTP. Still closes down before I finish a lap. Love the mod, but it's > been a huge pain in the a**. :-) > >

Make a new user profile. It said that in the readme (or someplace.) I forgot to do it and it crashed as I drove out of the pits. Made a new profile and it works fine. Hope that fixes it for you. Russell

I'll do without then. I'm not wiping out my NR2003 install just for GTP. It takes too damned long to build back up. -Larry "Timmy Ferrell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4zJWd.10226$[email hidden]... > If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an installover > a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other mods andit > didn;'t react well at all. > Timmy > >

That I don't mind doing at all. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "bluestringer" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:BLJWd.18798$%Y4.6684 > @bignews6.bellsouth.net: > > > Did you do second install into another folder? I would like to keep my > > other mods as is. Can I have 2 installs of N2003? > > > > bluestringer > > Sure you can and THAT is the recomended method. Acording to the readme, > GTP likes a nice clean version of Nr2k3 to play with. > > dh

Hi, "Larry" wrote > I'll do without then. > > I'm not wiping out my NR2003 install just for GTP. It takes too damned > long > to build back up. You don't have to. Just reinstall N2K3 using the setup.exe on the CD and DO NOT INSTALL to the default directory (or whereever your original N2K3 is), but to, for example C:Papyrus\NASCAR 2003 GTP, patch this install and use it for the GTP install. Works without any problems here, I have in fact 4 different N2K3 installs on my HD. Greetings, Michael

Larry wrote in news:FumXd.53743$7z6.1955@lakeread04: > I'll do without then. > > I'm not wiping out my NR2003 install just for GTP. It takes too damned long

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> to build back up. > > -Larry > > "Timmy Ferrell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4zJWd.10226$[email hidden]... >> If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an

install > over >> a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other mods and

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> it >> didn;'t react well at all. >> Timmy >> >> > >

Although I did a FULL backup of my N2K3 directory tree before trying this, I just ignored the suggestion to use a fresh install, and I installed the new GTP into my current N2K3 directory. The ONLY issue I have found (so far) is that my NASCAR spotter now has a lovely British accent. I only have the CTS and GNS mods installed any more, so it may be that it was some of the other mods that caused the problems resulting in the warning for the fresh install. While I do appreciate the fact that the creators of GTP very likely had good reason to insist on a fresh install, I had seen a couple of people claim to have done the install into their old N2K3 folders without incident, and that's just like waving a red flag in front of a bull: I HAD to try it. (As I saw, I did take precautions.) -- Darryl

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> Larry wrote in news:FumXd.53743$7z6.1955@lakeread04: > > > I'll do without then. > > > > I'm not wiping out my NR2003 install just for GTP. It takes too > damned long > > to build back up. > > > > -Larry > > > > "Timmy Ferrell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:4zJWd.10226$[email hidden]... > >> If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an > install > > over > >> a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other > mods and > > it > >> didn;'t react well at all. > >> Timmy > >> > >> > > > > > > Although I did a FULL backup of my N2K3 directory tree before trying > this, I just ignored the suggestion to use a fresh install, and I > installed the new GTP into my current N2K3 directory. The ONLY issue > I have found (so far) is that my NASCAR spotter now has a lovely > British accent. I only have the CTS and GNS mods installed any more, > so it may be that it was some of the other mods that caused the > problems resulting in the warning for the fresh install. > > While I do appreciate the fact that the creators of GTP very likely > had good reason to insist on a fresh install, I had seen a couple of > people claim to have done the install into their old N2K3 folders > without incident, and that's just like waving a red flag in front of > a bull: I HAD to try it. (As I saw, I did take precautions.) > > -- > Darryl

I did exactly the same thing . . . copied the whole nr2003 tree to another drive and installed over the original one. No problems. :o) Elrikk

Installed fine here. Did a fresh secondary install of NR2003, updated, and installed GTP 1.1. No issues. Pay attention to what you're doing though. There are ample places along the way to make yourself feel stupid :) I do laugh at the total lack of imagination these guys had though. Car A, B, C and D ? Paleeease! At LEAST they could have come up with ficticious names like: Car-X (Think About it) Humzda Porscht Cadiludicrous STS And what's up with the Neutered version of Watkins Glen? I sure hope they got a $50 rebate from the State Department Of Animal Control for this Neuter-Job. At least we can have any car color we want, as long as it's Green, Black or Silver LOL -Larry "Timmy Ferrell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4zJWd.10226$[email hidden]... > If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an install > over a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other mods > and it didn;'t react well at all. > Timmy >

It actually _asked_ me to do this the first time I ran it. -Larry "Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> David G Fisher wrote: >> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> >>>"mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>news:[email hidden]... >>> >>>>If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version. >>>>GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car... >>> >>>I installed to my existing N2003 install, and now both GTP and N2003 shut >>>down after about a minute of driving. >>> >>>I was lazy. >>>-- >>>David G Fisher >> >> >> I re-installed N2003, and then did a second install to another folder >> just >> for GTP. Still closes down before I finish a lap. Love the mod, but it's >> been a huge pain in the a**. :-) >> >> > > Make a new user profile. It said that in the readme (or someplace.) I > forgot to do it and it crashed as I drove out of the pits. Made a new > profile and it works fine. Hope that fixes it for you. > > Russell

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> "Timmy Ferrell" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:4zJWd.10226$[email hidden]: > > > > > If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an install > > over a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other > > mods and it didn;'t react well at all. > > Timmy > > > > > > I, being a lazy sot and not liking to be told what to do, did the > opposite. I installed over my working nr2k3 with tptcc, Ferrari 330 and > PWF and Busch mods and guess what...? It works and so far the tptcc mod > works too. (I haven't tested the others) > I would recomend tho...that you all follow Redline's advice and do a > clean install. Better safe than sorry eh? > > dave henrie

I found that the only thing that seemed to be affected was that when I chose to drive in the Nascar Cup races my engine sounded suspisciously like a GT car. ;o) I then copied the sound folder (as modified by the GTP installer) to a dir callet GTP_Sounds. Then I copied the original sounds dir from my backup back to the sounds dir and all was well. A couple of simple dir renames and I can get my GTP sounds back when I want them. Elrikk Elrikk

I have tried hard for figure this mod out. Every step was taken not only by me, but my business tech director as well. When we attempt the startup, IT REBOOTS my ENTIRE system... Can anyone formulate a step by step to make it easy to understand...Maybe someone like redline??? Why go through the trouble to put something this exciting together, and then do such a poor job of helping us enjoy it? -- Message posted via http://www.gameskb.com

I have tried hard for figure this mod out. Every step was taken not only by me, but my business tech director as well. When we attempt the startup, IT REBOOTS my ENTIRE system... Can anyone formulate a step by step to make it easy to understand...Maybe someone like redline??? Why go through the trouble to put something this exciting together, and then do such a poor job of helping us enjoy it? -- Message posted via http://www.gameskb.com

"marc fredo via GamesKB.com" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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> I have tried hard for figure this mod out. Every step was taken not > only by me, but my business tech director as well. When we attempt > the startup, IT REBOOTS my ENTIRE system... Can anyone formulate a > step by step to make it easy to understand...Maybe someone like > redline??? Why go through the trouble to put something this exciting > together, and then do such a poor job of helping us enjoy it? >

A: Install a new clean version of Nr2k3. B: Install the patch for Nr2k3 C: Test the new patched version D: install the mod, let it choose the pathway E: Run Config.exe F: All that probably won't work, so install the patch again, this time inside the nr2k3 folder. You now will have two versions of the gtp mod, the one inside nr2k3 should be the one that works. Run that config program again, and then use the gtp launcher shortcut to start the program. Choose a chassis, and choose day or night cars. Then fiddle with the various options. Once you get it working, you can 'probably' delete the first version of gtp. Notice I am saying NOTHING about Vroc...that is even MORE confusing. dave henrie

Dave Henrie wrote in news:Xns9623B4ADEA63Bdavehenriecomcastnet@ 216.196.97.136: > "marc fredo via GamesKB.com" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > >> I have tried hard for figure this mod out. Every step was taken not >> only by me, but my business tech director as well. When we attempt >> the startup, IT REBOOTS my ENTIRE system... Can anyone formulate a >> step by step to make it easy to understand...Maybe someone like >> redline??? Why go through the trouble to put something this exciting

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>> together, and then do such a poor job of helping us enjoy it? >> > > > A: Install a new clean version of Nr2k3. > B: Install the patch for Nr2k3 > C: Test the new patched version > D: install the mod, let it choose the pathway > E: Run Config.exe > F: All that probably won't work, so install the patch again,

this time > inside the nr2k3 folder. You now will have two versions of the gtp mod, > the one inside nr2k3 should be the one that works. Run that config program > again, and then use the gtp launcher shortcut to start the program. Choose > a chassis, and choose day or night cars. Then fiddle with the various > options. Once you get it working, you can 'probably' delete the first > version of gtp. > Notice I am saying NOTHING about Vroc...that is even MORE confusing. > > dave henrie Odd that the EULA for N2K3 says only one copy may be installed, and then the FIRST-legitimised GTP requires a second install of N2K3. Hmmmm. So if FIRST says it OK, you can ignore the EULA, but if they don't say it's OK, you have to respect the EULA. I thought it worked like trade marks: you either deneded them or you let them lapse. There is no halfway. Sometimes I wish I _was_ a lawyer. I'd love to have an informed opinion on a lot of this stuff. -- Darryl

Thank You Dave, I shall try those steps once I get home. If there are any more bugs, I'll post another help message...Fingers crossed! Thanks, Marc Fredo -- Message posted via http://www.gameskb.com

I was too optimistic Dave, it still crashes and reboots ANY 2nd installation of 2k3. I discovered that when I followed your instruction to "Test the patched version." It starts at the GTP launch, I choose a profile, click Start, see the sierra animation, then just Boom! Back to the reboot. Any thoughts??? Thanks, Marc Fredo -- Message posted via http://www.gameskb.com

Turn of automatic reboot first, and look what happens then. I had to add my old player file in nascar to play gtp. It can take some time to get everything running, but it's worth the trouble ;) "marc fredo via GamesKB.com" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:[email hidden]...

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>I was too optimistic Dave, it still crashes and reboots ANY 2nd > installation of 2k3. I discovered that when I followed your instruction > to > "Test the patched version." It starts at the GTP launch, I choose a > profile, click Start, see the sierra animation, then just Boom! Back to > the > reboot. Any thoughts??? > > Thanks, > > Marc Fredo > > -- > Message posted via http://www.gameskb.com

From the range of experiences in this thread, it's obvious that there are many, many issues, and questions about the proper installation and running of this mod. Considering the level of excitement and anticipation many of us had while waiting for it's release (and re-release), one would think the creators of GTP would take an active role in supporting their creation, and enhancing it's reputation. Can anyone say that this confusion, and difficulty enhances anything positive? Why is there no active support role? For 9 seasons, I've hosted a weekly racing show in the 9th largest U.S. market, Atlanta, Georgia. Over the years, I give away plugs for anything related to our racing addiction (helps if I get that allowance in writing first!). If only this was only to be another like tptcc & OWR, the pit's T/A, etc... Those were easy however. This one's become a joke. From the looks of it, I'm not the only one that feels this way. The last thing I can do is recommend this hassle to other folks, especially if it harms other programs on their systems, and especially, especially if I can get blamed for it! Hopefully we can all get to the point of enjoying it as much as we anticipated. From the little I have seen so far, shows great promise...Right before it crashes to a reboot...over and over, and over.... Does anyone know why the support has up and scattered to the four winds? What don't they want us to know? -- Message posted via http://www.gameskb.com

"marc fredo via GamesKB.com" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Does anyone know why the support has up and scattered to the four winds? > What don't they want us to know? > A project they have been working on for over a year got crippled. Would YOU be energetic supporting something that barely resembles your original effort? dave henrie

Exactly. That's my point. We all know of their problems, but better to a) Not release something clearly flawed, or, b) Release it, detail the problems, and work with folks instead of complaining with excuses about how their project was torn up. Hey, back when this thing did work for 5 minutes, it was easy to see that it's a tremendous project(why else would we all be complaining), but it's also easy to see the obvious copyright infringments. We all screw up, but better to make one's screw up right, than to whine about it. Marc -- Message posted via http://www.gameskb.com