Re: Formula One Drivers Play F1 2000!!!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:47:00 GMT, [email hidden] (Jo Helsen) enlightened us all with these kind words of wisdom: >And what a result it had! I remember JV having trouble on most new >tracks. Untill suddenly, starting from Hungary and Spa, he started >getting pole positions and wins!! And that was JUST after the release >of GP2 which he confirmed he was using. It's not surprising that he would better his performance after practising on a simulator. Pilots, in both commercial and military lines, have been used flight simulators for years, and they are now capable of dealing with scenarios which they could never have faced before. I imagine that soon, all racing drivers will learning the tracks in a racing simulator. Perhaps not quite yet, but soon. I'd be surprised if they sat in front of a desktop PC to do it however. They're more likely to use a full working cockpit, just as pilots do, which can be configured to feel all the G-force effects they should feel out on the track. Best regards, Moon-Watcher

On one of the radio stations here they interview a chap called Neil Mallard, who I believe is a journalist for one of the European TV stations, on the friday before and the Monday after each GP. Yesterday he was asked how the drivers would cope with a new track like Indy and he replied that they had been practicing on their playstations, which can only mean they are playing F1 2000. I also remember a few years back, JV used GP2 to learn some circuits. Chris -- South African GPL Championship http://www.geocities.com/gpl_sa_champs/

Just like Earnhardt Jr. used NASCAR 3 to learn the shift locations for Watkins Glen and Sears Point. -Pav Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8pkat4$e9i$[email hidden]... > On one of the radio stations here they interview a chap called NeilMallard, > who I believe is a journalist for one of the European TV stations, on the > friday before and the Monday after each GP. > > Yesterday he was asked how the drivers would cope with a new track likeIndy

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> and he replied that they had been practicing on their playstations, which > can only mean they are playing F1 2000. > > I also remember a few years back, JV used GP2 to learn some circuits. > > Chris > > -- > South African GPL Championship http://www.geocities.com/gpl_sa_champs/ > > >

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:23:30 +0200, "Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> wrote: ..... >I also remember a few years back, JV used GP2 to learn some circuits. And what a result it had! I remember JV having trouble on most new tracks. Untill suddenly, starting from Hungary and Spa, he started getting pole positions and wins!! And that was JUST after the release of GP2 which he confirmed he was using. JoH

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> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:23:30 +0200, "Chris Bloom" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > ..... > >I also remember a few years back, JV used GP2 to learn some circuits. > > And what a result it had! I remember JV having trouble on most new > tracks. Untill suddenly, starting from Hungary and Spa, he started > getting pole positions and wins!! And that was JUST after the release > of GP2 which he confirmed he was using. > > JoH > >

Umm, Jaques would have one his very FIRST GP if he didn't have engine trouble at Australia and have to let Damon pass him near the end of the race. He still came in second. He also had already used GP2 for that race, so I'm not sure what you mean by "the release of GP2" after Hungary - he had it from the beginning. -- Rob [email hidden]

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Rob Berryhill wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:23:30 +0200, "Chris Bloom" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > ..... > > >I also remember a few years back, JV used GP2 to learn some circuits. > > > > And what a result it had! I remember JV having trouble on most new > > tracks. Untill suddenly, starting from Hungary and Spa, he started > > getting pole positions and wins!! And that was JUST after the release > > of GP2 which he confirmed he was using. > > > > Umm, Jaques would have one his very FIRST GP if he didn't have engine > trouble at Australia and have to let Damon pass him near the end of the > race.

He didn't have engine problems as such, but had damaged the car himself by riding the kerbs too much. > He still came in second. He also had already used GP2 for that race, > so I'm not sure what you mean by "the release of GP2" after Hungary - > he had it from the beginning. The only problem with that is that Albert Park isn't in GP2. IIRC GP2 is based on the '95 season, and the Australian GP was in Adelaide that year. '96 was everyone's first year in Melbourne. AG -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Gauton + Tel +44 141-548-2686 EEE Department, SPD, + Fax +44 141-552-2487 The University of Strathclyde + E-Mail [email hidden] 204 George St., Glasgow G1 1XW + http://www.spd.eee.strath.ac.uk/users/ag ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:48:35 +0100, Alan Gauton <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Rob Berryhill wrote: > >> In article <[email hidden]>, >> [email hidden] says... >> > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:23:30 +0200, "Chris Bloom" >> > <[email hidden]> wrote: >> > >> > ..... >> > >I also remember a few years back, JV used GP2 to learn some circuits. >> > >> > And what a result it had! I remember JV having trouble on most new >> > tracks. Untill suddenly, starting from Hungary and Spa, he started >> > getting pole positions and wins!! And that was JUST after the release >> > of GP2 which he confirmed he was using. >> > >> >> Umm, Jaques would have one his very FIRST GP if he didn't have engine >> trouble at Australia and have to let Damon pass him near the end of the >> race. > >He didn't have engine problems as such, but had damaged the car himself by >riding the kerbs too much. > >> He still came in second. He also had already used GP2 for that race, >> so I'm not sure what you mean by "the release of GP2" after Hungary - >> he had it from the beginning. > >The only problem with that is that Albert Park isn't in GP2. IIRC GP2 is >based on the '95 season, and the Australian GP was in Adelaide that >year. '96 was everyone's first year in Melbourne.

GP2 was based on 1994 which indeed had no Melbourne. Also, GP2 was released in AUGUST '96, right before the Hungarian and Belgian GP which JV both won (?) after doing bad the races before. JoH

In response to Alan's comments: I think your answer is dead wrong, he did not damage the car himself but was losing oil pressure due to an oil leak which you could see leaking on the nose of damon hill's car who was behind him. He set the pole at that race and would have won it no problem exact for the pits telling him to slow, better for the team to get a 1-2 than only one of thier cars finishing. Steve! "Alan Gauton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Rob Berryhill wrote: > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:23:30 +0200, "Chris Bloom" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > ..... > > > >I also remember a few years back, JV used GP2 to learn some circuits. > > > > > > And what a result it had! I remember JV having trouble on most new > > > tracks. Untill suddenly, starting from Hungary and Spa, he started > > > getting pole positions and wins!! And that was JUST after the release > > > of GP2 which he confirmed he was using. > > > > > > > Umm, Jaques would have one his very FIRST GP if he didn't have engine > > trouble at Australia and have to let Damon pass him near the end of the > > race. > > He didn't have engine problems as such, but had damaged the car himself by > riding the kerbs too much. > > > He still came in second. He also had already used GP2 for that race, > > so I'm not sure what you mean by "the release of GP2" after Hungary - > > he had it from the beginning. > > The only problem with that is that Albert Park isn't in GP2. IIRC GP2 is > based on the '95 season, and the Australian GP was in Adelaide that > year. '96 was everyone's first year in Melbourne. > > AG > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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> Yesterday he was asked how the drivers would cope with a new track likeIndy > and he replied that they had been practicing on their playstations, which > can only mean they are playing F1 2000. Playstation ? No wonder they can`t get through the chicanes !

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> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Rob Berryhill wrote: > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:23:30 +0200, "Chris Bloom" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > ..... > > > >I also remember a few years back, JV used GP2 to learn some circuits. > > > > > > And what a result it had! I remember JV having trouble on most new > > > tracks. Untill suddenly, starting from Hungary and Spa, he started > > > getting pole positions and wins!! And that was JUST after the release > > > of GP2 which he confirmed he was using. > > > > > > > Umm, Jaques would have one his very FIRST GP if he didn't have engine > > trouble at Australia and have to let Damon pass him near the end of the > > race. > > He didn't have engine problems as such, but had damaged the car himself by > riding the kerbs too much. > > > He still came in second. He also had already used GP2 for that race, > > so I'm not sure what you mean by "the release of GP2" after Hungary - > > he had it from the beginning. > > The only problem with that is that Albert Park isn't in GP2. IIRC GP2 is > based on the '95 season, and the Australian GP was in Adelaide that > year. '96 was everyone's first year in Melbourne. > > AG >

Maybe it was F1RS he used then? -- Rob [email hidden]

Didn't F1RS come out after GP2? Chris -- Citylab Durban www.citylab.com > Maybe it was F1RS he used then? > > -- > Rob > [email hidden]

The drivers of the Truck-Championship are already using Synetic's Mercedes Benz Truck Racing http://www.mbtr.de between the heats on each race weekend. There are pictures of the simulator @ http://www.truck-simulator.de/image-neu/truck-sim-2.jpg , http://www.truck-simulator.de/image-neu/may-30-19.jpg and http://www.truck-simulator.de/image-neu/markus-1.jpg -- MeatWater ******************************* Webmaster @ LEGENDS OPEN NIGHT NASCAR racing at it's finest! http://www.meatwater.com/nlegends [email hidden] "Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:8pkat4$e9i$[email hidden]... > On one of the radio stations here they interview a chap called Neil Mallard, > who I believe is a journalist for one of the European TV stations, on the > friday before and the Monday after each GP. > > Yesterday he was asked how the drivers would cope with a new track like Indy > and he replied that they had been practicing on their playstations, which > can only mean they are playing F1 2000. > > I also remember a few years back, JV used GP2 to learn some circuits. > > Chris > > -- > South African GPL Championship http://www.geocities.com/gpl_sa_champs/ > > >

>I think your answer is dead wrong, he did not >damage the car himself but was losing oil pressure >due to an oil leak which you could see leaking on the >nose of damon hill's car who was behind him. I always thought the oil line was broken because Villeneuve went off and damaged it? -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:01:53 +0200, "Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Didn't F1RS come out after GP2? > >Chris More than 1 year after GP2 I think. JoH

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Graeme Nash wrote:

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> > >I think your answer is dead wrong, he did not > >damage the car himself but was losing oil pressure > >due to an oil leak which you could see leaking on the > >nose of damon hill's car who was behind him. > > I always thought the oil line was broken because Villeneuve went off and > damaged it?

Hence my original comment - it was widely reported at the time by the British motorsport press that Villeneuve had damaged it himself. Something to do with learning that F1 cars were a bit more fragile that way than CART cars. AG -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Gauton + Tel +44 141-548-2686 EEE Department, SPD, + Fax +44 141-552-2487 The University of Strathclyde + E-Mail [email hidden] 204 George St., Glasgow G1 1XW + http://www.spd.eee.strath.ac.uk/users/ag ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

He went off over the chicane at turn 1, still keeping Hill behind him though the car was given quite a hammering and the oil problem then began to develop. Regards Mike On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:38:41 +0100, Alan Gauton <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Graeme Nash wrote: > >> >> >I think your answer is dead wrong, he did not >> >damage the car himself but was losing oil pressure >> >due to an oil leak which you could see leaking on the >> >nose of damon hill's car who was behind him. >> >> I always thought the oil line was broken because Villeneuve went off and >> damaged it? > >Hence my original comment - it was widely reported at the time by the >British motorsport press that Villeneuve had damaged it himself. Something >to do with learning that F1 cars were a bit more fragile that way than >CART cars. > >AG

My apology gentlemen, i remember watching that race and there was no physical damage to the car itself other than it developing an oil leak which i'd assume was simply a mechanical fault. Thanks for the insight. Steve! "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > >I think your answer is dead wrong, he did not > >damage the car himself but was losing oil pressure > >due to an oil leak which you could see leaking on the > >nose of damon hill's car who was behind him. > > I always thought the oil line was broken because Villeneuve went off and > damaged it? > > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

I hear Michael Schumacher is having the steering wheel in his Ferrari replaced with a gamepad ;) "Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8pkat4$e9i$[email hidden]... > On one of the radio stations here they interview a chap called NeilMallard, > who I believe is a journalist for one of the European TV stations, on the > friday before and the Monday after each GP. > > Yesterday he was asked how the drivers would cope with a new track likeIndy > and he replied that they had been practicing on their playstations, which > can only mean they are playing F1 2000. > > I also remember a few years back, JV used GP2 to learn some circuits. > > Chris

Maybe thats the reason for all those sudden movements at the start...... I think we need to send him an ANALOGUE one :) "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BGew5.1710$[email hidden]... | I hear Michael Schumacher is having the steering wheel in his Ferrari | replaced with a gamepad ;) |

I'd expect the drivers could get some valuable Indy knowledge from F1 2000. It's a great sim! GD <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>,[email hidden] says...

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> > > >He went off over the chicane at turn 1, still keeping Hill behind him > >though the car was given quite a hammering and the oil problem then > >began to develop. > > > I never believed that, because if you go back and watch the > video you'll see that Hill's car was already starting to be covered > with JV's oil _before_ JV went off. > > > Anyway, to get back on-topic, Eddie Irvine said on the Letterman > show a few days ago that he'd been playing the Indy track on > the playstation. >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > >He went off over the chicane at turn 1, still keeping Hill behind him >though the car was given quite a hammering and the oil problem then >began to develop. I never believed that, because if you go back and watch the video you'll see that Hill's car was already starting to be covered with JV's oil _before_ JV went off. Anyway, to get back on-topic, Eddie Irvine said on the Letterman show a few days ago that he'd been playing the Indy track on the playstation.