Re: Nascar 4 sound :(

Maybe it depends on the soundcard. I have a MX300 and love the sound of N4. You can hear the compression braking of the motor. I guess its just personal preference. David Stamper Diamond Star Racing http://webpages.charter.net/dstamper "WodBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:906h1e$ot2$[email hidden]...

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> Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the Nascar 4 demo?? I > quite liked the sound from NH, but the sound in N4 just didn't seem to > fit it. I was playing it last night through headphones so that may be > part of the reason... > > The rest of the demo seems alright though. I imagine it would be good > with an RS shifter. :) > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

Just count yourself lucky that you _have_ sound. Jan. =--- WodBoy wrot...

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> Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the > Nascar 4 demo?? I quite liked the sound from NH, > but the sound in N4 just didn't seem to fit it. > I was playing it last night through headphones so > that may be part of the reason... > > The rest of the demo seems alright though. I imagine > it would be good with an RS shifter. :) > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the Nascar 4 demo?? I quite liked the sound from NH, but the sound in N4 just didn't seem to fit it. I was playing it last night through headphones so that may be part of the reason... The rest of the demo seems alright though. I imagine it would be good with an RS shifter. :) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Sound was ONE of the first things that Heat took hits for... :) dave henrie "WodBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:906h1e$ot2$[email hidden]...

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> Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the Nascar 4 demo?? I > quite liked the sound from NH, but the sound in N4 just didn't seem to > fit it. I was playing it last night through headphones so that may be > part of the reason... > > The rest of the demo seems alright though. I imagine it would be good > with an RS shifter. :) > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

I think they are better than any other sim. Nice engine braking sounds too. Its not goint to sound like a 185kw HSV doing 5000rpm when its a 700hp engine doing 9000. From the in-car cameras i've heard, its pretty accurate. Luke -=87=- Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I think that those who are complaining about the sound are doing so not > because it is a weak sound but bceuase, for those affected, the engine > sounds like an electrical transformer buzzing at maximum overload. Inother

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> words it is NOTHING like a V8. > > The wind and road noises seem okay but the engine bears no resemblance to > even that depicted in N1, let alone N3 or NH. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Rod Prince <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:MPG.1491b7f32ceb654298976d@news-server... > > In article <906h1e$ot2$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > > Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the Nascar 4 demo?? I > > > quite liked the sound from NH, but the sound in N4 just didn't seem to > > > fit it. I was playing it last night through headphones so that may be > > > part of the reason... > > > > To me the sound doesn't appear bassy enough, but the sound engine > > to me seems excellent, especially when you lift off the accelerator. > > Not having sat in a stockcar, unsure if this is realistic or not. > > > > I guess I'm used to my 351 Cleveland and the roar that thing used to > > give out when you planted it. ;) > > > > Running it on a live card. > > > > Cheers, > > Rod. > >

This is EXACTLY what I'm experiencing. The shifter sounds like a proper "clunk" when changing between gears, but I ONLY get engine noise at high RPMs -- at low to mid RPMs, all I get is a droning buzz, and sometimes it is accompanied by a "clicking" sound, like a sound file looping or something. This is the ONLY problem I'm having with the N4 demo at the moment. VERY frustrating. I hope they fix it before the real demo is released. -- JB In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I think that those who are complaining about the sound are doing sonot > because it is a weak sound but bceuase, for those affected, the engine > sounds like an electrical transformer buzzing at maximum overload.In other > words it is NOTHING like a V8. > > The wind and road noises seem okay but the engine bears noresemblance to

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> even that depicted in N1, let alone N3 or NH. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Rod Prince <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:MPG.1491b7f32ceb654298976d@news-server... > > In article <906h1e$ot2$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > > Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the Nascar 4

demo?? I > > > quite liked the sound from NH, but the sound in N4 just didn'tseem to > > > fit it. I was playing it last night through headphones so thatmay be

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> > > part of the reason... > > > > To me the sound doesn't appear bassy enough, but the sound engine > > to me seems excellent, especially when you lift off the accelerator. > > Not having sat in a stockcar, unsure if this is realistic or not. > > > > I guess I'm used to my 351 Cleveland and the roar that thing used to > > give out when you planted it. ;) > > > > Running it on a live card. > > > > Cheers, > > Rod. > >

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I agree too. N4 demos sounds are inferior to N3. I hope Mr. Tom Pabst (@HighGear) to make sounds for N4 demo like did with N3 and GPL. He's sounds are really cool and realistic! Y.Minami "WodBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:906h1e$ot2$[email hidden]...

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> Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the Nascar 4 demo?? I > quite liked the sound from NH, but the sound in N4 just didn't seem to > fit it. I was playing it last night through headphones so that may be > part of the reason... > > The rest of the demo seems alright though. I imagine it would be good > with an RS shifter. :) > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

[email hidden] (WodBoy) wrote: > Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the Nascar 4 demo? I've been puzzled by comments like this. There are a few glitches, but the basic engine revs and shifting I find to be excellent... my new headphones may help. Old ones died and I was forced to invest in some Sennheiser HD580's. Wonderful sound quality. If I have any complaint about sound it's that when overtaking the sound doesn't seem to be in the right place. This may be a complex lag thing though, not sure. Soundcard's a Live! value, not sure if this is a factor. Andrew McP

I don't really have sound -- the shifter sounds work fine, but the engine sound is distant at best, mainly only giving me any noise at the redline (often it's just a "clicking" sound, like it's looping). I'm using the on-board sound on my MSI K7T Pro2 Socket A motherboard, and it works fine with EVERYTHING I've thrown on it, save for the N4 tech demo. Hopefully they'll address this issue. -- JB In article <906h1e$ot2$[email hidden]>, WodBoy <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the Nascar 4 demo?? I > quite liked the sound from NH, but the sound in N4 just didn't seem to > fit it. I was playing it last night through headphones so that may be > part of the reason... > > The rest of the demo seems alright though. I imagine it would be good > with an RS shifter. :) > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. >

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In article <906h1e$ot2$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the Nascar 4 demo?? I > quite liked the sound from NH, but the sound in N4 just didn't seem to > fit it. I was playing it last night through headphones so that may be > part of the reason... To me the sound doesn't appear bassy enough, but the sound engine to me seems excellent, especially when you lift off the accelerator. Not having sat in a stockcar, unsure if this is realistic or not. I guess I'm used to my 351 Cleveland and the roar that thing used to give out when you planted it. ;) Running it on a live card. Cheers, Rod.

That's what I am experiencing also...which is what led to my interpretation of the engine sound in the previous post. All other ambient sounds are perfectly fine. Someone here suggested that it is only affecting those who are using the SB16 card and that is exactly what I am using. This raises a question: if the SB16 is capable of reproducing the rest of the sounds, just what is the make-up of the engine sound? There must be something different about it to the extent that the SB16 can't use it. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:908e90$8bf$[email hidden]... > This is EXACTLY what I'm experiencing. The shifter sounds like a > proper "clunk" when changing between gears, but I ONLY get engine noise > at high RPMs -- at low to mid RPMs, all I get is a droning buzz, and > sometimes it is accompanied by a "clicking" sound, like a sound file > looping or something. > > This is the ONLY problem I'm having with the N4 demo at the moment. > VERY frustrating. I hope they fix it before the real demo is released. > > -- JB

Nope......no joy with that either. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 14:57:40 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > I had this exact problem and then I disabled 3D sound. > > I have a TB Montego Aureal soundcard. Sometimes even > after I disabled 3D sound I will inexplicably lose engine > sound. It mostly occurs at idle or during a replay. > > If you have 3D sound enabled, try turning it off. > > Good luck! > >

It's not just SB16, Bruce. I've tried SBLive 5.1, Turtle Beach A3D, and SBLive Value and all have the same results. For me it's not just the engine sound but all sounds. They crack and pop and generally sound terrible. Enough that I have put away my wheel in frustration. I had been looking forward to this demo for a long time... --David Cook In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote...

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> That's what I am experiencing also...which is what led to my interpretation > of the engine sound in the previous post. All other ambient sounds are > perfectly fine. > Someone here suggested that it is only affecting those who are using the > SB16 card and that is exactly what I am using. > > This raises a question: if the SB16 is capable of reproducing the rest of > the sounds, just what is the make-up of the engine sound? There must be > something different about it to the extent that the SB16 can't use it. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:908e90$8bf$[email hidden]... > > This is EXACTLY what I'm experiencing. The shifter sounds like a > > proper "clunk" when changing between gears, but I ONLY get engine noise > > at high RPMs -- at low to mid RPMs, all I get is a droning buzz, and > > sometimes it is accompanied by a "clicking" sound, like a sound file > > looping or something. > > > > This is the ONLY problem I'm having with the N4 demo at the moment. > > VERY frustrating. I hope they fix it before the real demo is released. > > > > -- JB > > > >

I think that those who are complaining about the sound are doing so not because it is a weak sound but bceuase, for those affected, the engine sounds like an electrical transformer buzzing at maximum overload. In other words it is NOTHING like a V8. The wind and road noises seem okay but the engine bears no resemblance to even that depicted in N1, let alone N3 or NH. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Rod Prince <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MPG.1491b7f32ceb654298976d@news-server... > In article <906h1e$ot2$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > Was anybody else disappointed with the sound in the Nascar 4 demo?? I > > quite liked the sound from NH, but the sound in N4 just didn't seem to > > fit it. I was playing it last night through headphones so that may be > > part of the reason... > > To me the sound doesn't appear bassy enough, but the sound engine > to me seems excellent, especially when you lift off the accelerator. > Not having sat in a stockcar, unsure if this is realistic or not. > > I guess I'm used to my 351 Cleveland and the roar that thing used to > give out when you planted it. ;) > > Running it on a live card. > > Cheers, > Rod.

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> It's not just SB16, Bruce. I've tried SBLive 5.1, Turtle Beach A3D, and > SBLive Value and all have the same results. For me it's not just the > engine sound but all sounds. They crack and pop and generally sound > terrible. Enough that I have put away my wheel in frustration. I had > been looking forward to this demo for a long time... > > --David Cook

Add me to the list - I've got an SBLive and the sound implementation is definitely bugged. Hopefully the release will be sorted - or ideally another demo will be released so we can see what the AI racing is like. - Michael

There are two issues, the first is the lack of proper pitch-shifting of the engine sound on the SB16 and the other is the poor quality on Win2000 (an unsupported platform). Both are being looked at for release. -- Eric "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It's not just SB16, Bruce. I've tried SBLive 5.1, Turtle Beach A3D, and > SBLive Value and all have the same results. For me it's not just the > engine sound but all sounds. They crack and pop and generally sound > terrible. Enough that I have put away my wheel in frustration. I had > been looking forward to this demo for a long time...

I've got four machines... On the 333MHz, VooDoo 2, AWE64, Windows ME, the frame rate is around 25 and the sound is fine. On the 350MHz, TNT2, AWE32, Windows ME, the frame rate is decent and the sound is fine. On the 933MHz, VooDoo 5, SB Live, Windows ME, the frame rate is great and the sound is terrible. The motor isn't bad but the spotter is terrible. Sounds like he's using a tin can and string for his end of the radio. He might be sitting in a barrel too! On the 133MHz, VooDoo 1, SB 16, Windows 95, I didn't even try! I'm hoping Eric will reply with an "Oh yea... were working on the SB Live problem as well". Eric Busch wrote:

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> There are two issues, the first is the lack of proper pitch-shifting of the > engine sound on the SB16 and the other is the poor quality on Win2000 (an > unsupported platform). Both are being looked at for release. > > -- > Eric >

I've run the game on a few machines (both Win98 and ME) with Live cards and have not had any problems with any of the sounds. Are you using any of the present environments? -- Eric "Brad Morgan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I've got four machines... > > On the 333MHz, VooDoo 2, AWE64, Windows ME, the frame rate is around 25 and the > sound is fine. > > On the 350MHz, TNT2, AWE32, Windows ME, the frame rate is decent and the sound > is fine. > > On the 933MHz, VooDoo 5, SB Live, Windows ME, the frame rate is great and the > sound is terrible. The motor isn't bad but the spotter is terrible. Sounds > like he's using a tin can and string for his end of the radio. He might be > sitting in a barrel too! > > On the 133MHz, VooDoo 1, SB 16, Windows 95, I didn't even try! > > I'm hoping Eric will reply with an "Oh yea... were working on the SB Live > problem as well".

Thank you, Eric. See? I TOLD you blokes not to get yer knickers in a knot! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Eric Busch <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:90cl1j$sv2$[email hidden]... > There are two issues, the first is the lack of proper pitch-shifting of the > engine sound on the SB16 and the other is the poor quality on Win2000 (an > unsupported platform). Both are being looked at for release. > > -- > Eric > > "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > It's not just SB16, Bruce. I've tried SBLive 5.1, Turtle Beach A3D, and > > SBLive Value and all have the same results. For me it's not just the > > engine sound but all sounds. They crack and pop and generally sound > > terrible. Enough that I have put away my wheel in frustration. I had > > been looking forward to this demo for a long time... > >

Eric, I don't believe I'm using anything other than the defaults... the machine is too new for me to figure out how to (knowingly) change that stuff yet! Let me know if you would prefer to take this off-line into email. I'd like to try and isolate this problem so that it doesn't effect the released product. Brad Eric Busch wrote:

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> I've run the game on a few machines (both Win98 and ME) with Live cards and > have not had any problems with any of the sounds. Are you using any of the > present environments? > > -- > Eric > > "Brad Morgan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've got four machines... > > > > On the 333MHz, VooDoo 2, AWE64, Windows ME, the frame rate is around 25 > and the > > sound is fine. > > > > On the 350MHz, TNT2, AWE32, Windows ME, the frame rate is decent and the > sound > > is fine. > > > > On the 933MHz, VooDoo 5, SB Live, Windows ME, the frame rate is great and > the > > sound is terrible. The motor isn't bad but the spotter is terrible. > Sounds > > like he's using a tin can and string for his end of the radio. He might > be > > sitting in a barrel too! > > > > On the 133MHz, VooDoo 1, SB 16, Windows 95, I didn't even try! > > > > I'm hoping Eric will reply with an "Oh yea... were working on the SB Live > > problem as well".

Brad "I" would prefer you keep the hunt for sound on the newsgroup. That way if you DO find a solution, we will be able to see it as well. good luck. dave henrie "Brad Morgan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Eric, > > I don't believe I'm using anything other than the defaults... the machineis > too new for me to figure out how to (knowingly) change that stuff yet! > > Let me know if you would prefer to take this off-line into email. I'dlike to > try > and isolate this problem so that it doesn't effect the released product. > > Brad > >