N4, Ok, but Papy really needs to redo their graphics engine.

Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and still can't but barely run everything maxed out. P4 1.5ghz 256 PC800 , 400fsb Geforce 2 Ultra 64 avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine in so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same graphics engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they have gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D until one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it.

One of the developers from Papyrus told me it was an all new graphics engine. David G FIsher "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > P4 1.5ghz > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine

in > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the samegraphics > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think theyhave > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3Duntil > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > >

On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:46:38 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >You have a problem with your system. >I run faster than that on my PIII-1000/Voodoo5. > > Um, I think it might be because he bought a P4. Weaker FPU than P3 even. If you want a killer machine today then buy an AMD 1.2ghz. I'm waiting for at least 1.5ghz Thunderbird before I even consider upgrading my P3@880. -- Jagg

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > One of the developers from Papyrus told me it was an all new graphics > engine. Yes, that is true. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

I average that good with my Celeron 566 running at 850 mhz, with a GeForce2 MX card, and 128 mb of ram. Something don't sound right on your system, you should be getting much better. -- Don Burnette "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > P4 1.5ghz > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine in > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same graphics > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they have > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D until > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > >

Everybody wants to blame the game..tsk,tsk....this game is awsome...and the graphics engine IS new

P3 1GHz 256 SDRAM 64MB DDR GeForce2 Ultra I have seen upwards of 75fps Definately something wrong on your end. On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:03:26 -0600, "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and >still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > >P4 1.5ghz >256 PC800 , 400fsb >Geforce 2 Ultra 64 >avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > >Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. >So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine in >so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. >Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same graphics >engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they have >gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D until >one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > >

700 tbird geforce2mx 35-75, you've got something wrong "Skotty Flynn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> P3 1GHz > 256 SDRAM > 64MB DDR GeForce2 Ultra > > I have seen upwards of 75fps > Definately something wrong on your end. > > > On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:03:26 -0600, "Morris Jones" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > >still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > > >P4 1.5ghz > >256 PC800 , 400fsb > >Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > >avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > > >Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > >So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine

in > >so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > >Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the samegraphics > >engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think theyhave > >gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3Duntil > >one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > > > > > >

You shouldn't have plunked down all that money for a P4 if you were going to use a current game to measure performance. You need P4 optimized code to really see the benefit, otherwise it's slower than an equivalent P3/Tbird. Go to www.anandtech.com and search for P4 to read more detail than anybody really wants to know about the P4 architecture. Rick "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > P4 1.5ghz > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine

in > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the samegraphics > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think theyhave > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3Duntil > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > >

Cars look better in N4, IMHO. Do you have dynamic shadows in NH? Are the mirror better in NH? How's the AI? Yellow flag under yellow? NH is limited to 1280 X 1024, N4? 30 fps is pretty good considering almost everything is maxed out. Morris Jones wrote:

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> > Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > P4 1.5ghz > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine in > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same graphics > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they have > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D until > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it.

-- Philippe "Philster" Sergerie

What resolution and color depth? Jerry Morelock "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > P4 1.5ghz > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine

in > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the samegraphics > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think theyhave > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3Duntil > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > >

Is that without V-Synch and AA. -- Mike Grandy Precision Racing www.precision-racing.com "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > P4 1.5ghz > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine in > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same graphics > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they have > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D until > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > >

Sorry , I do not believe you guys are getting 70fps running 1280x960x16 and 4x4 FSAA with everthing maxed out and drawing 42 cars ahead and 10 behind. I know I could turn the FSAA off and get better but it then looks really bad, I know I could turn the drawn ahead cars down to 15 or so but why should we have to, new engine or not it will never looked better than HEAT to me, I'm not saying its not a better SIM, I think it is, just that HEAT has better graphics and I can run with the above config, and still get 50+fps. "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > P4 1.5ghz > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine

in > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the samegraphics > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think theyhave > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3Duntil > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > >

I have the same setup and am averaging 75fps at 1024x768x32. "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > P4 1.5ghz > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine

in > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the samegraphics > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think theyhave > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3Duntil > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > >

What really sucks is the 2 road courses have the worst frame rates, especially in a race, I think papy has some more tweaking to do! "Jeffrey S. Pace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:81yh6.904$[email hidden]...

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> I have the same setup and am averaging 75fps at 1024x768x32. > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > > > P4 1.5ghz > > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics

engine > in > > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphicscard.

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> > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same > graphics > > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they > have > > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D > until > > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > > > > > > > >

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>Subject: Re: N4, Ok, but Papy really needs to redo their graphics engine. >From: Skotty Flynn [email hidden] >Date: 02/11/2001 4:34 AM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > >P3 1GHz >256 SDRAM >64MB DDR GeForce2 Ultra > >I have seen upwards of 75fps >Definately something wrong on your end. > > >On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:03:26 -0600, "Morris Jones" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and >>still can't but barely run everything maxed out. >> >>P4 1.5ghz >>256 PC800 , 400fsb >>Geforce 2 Ultra 64 >>avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. >> >>Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. >>So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine in >>so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. >>Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same graphics >>engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they have >>gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D until >>one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it.

So how about it is there ANYONE in this NG with enough knowledge to explain why this guy can barely run it and a lot of us can't get it to run at all??? Enough of this "Must be something wrong with your system" Crap....with this guy's setup that's a given but how about some clues people!!!!??? DB (Don't gimme NOCRAP in E-mail)

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> > >Subject: Re: N4, Ok, but Papy really needs to redo their graphics engine. > >From: Skotty Flynn [email hidden] > >Date: 02/11/2001 4:34 AM Eastern Standard Time > >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > > > >P3 1GHz > >256 SDRAM > >64MB DDR GeForce2 Ultra > > > >I have seen upwards of 75fps > >Definately something wrong on your end. > > > > > >On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:03:26 -0600, "Morris Jones" > ><[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >>Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > >>still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > >> > >>P4 1.5ghz > >>256 PC800 , 400fsb > >>Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > >>avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > >> > >>Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > >>So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine in > >>so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > >>Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same graphics > >>engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they have > >>gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D until > >>one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > So how about it is there ANYONE in this NG with enough knowledge to explain why > this guy can barely run it and a lot of us can't get it to run at all??? > Enough of this "Must be something wrong with your system" Crap....with this > guy's setup that's a given but how about some clues people!!!!???

There's nothing wrong with his system. It's because he's running with 4xFSAA.

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:46:24 GMT, "mike" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Everybody wants to blame the game..tsk,tsk....this game is awsome...and the >graphics engine IS new > > Even Nascar 3 was a new graphics engine over Nascar 2. They just look similar. -- Jagg

spoke: Even Nascar 3 was a new graphics engine over Nascar 2. They just look similar. -- Jagg

Give 'em hell Pierre! ;) -- Scott B. Husted "PA-Scott" ICQ# 4395450 "Pierre Robitaille" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > PHYDEAUX99 wrote: > > > > >Subject: Re: N4, Ok, but Papy really needs to redo their graphics engine. > > >From: Skotty Flynn [email hidden] > > >Date: 02/11/2001 4:34 AM Eastern Standard Time > > >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > > > > > >P3 1GHz > > >256 SDRAM > > >64MB DDR GeForce2 Ultra > > > > > >I have seen upwards of 75fps > > >Definately something wrong on your end. > > > > > > > > >On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:03:26 -0600, "Morris Jones" > > ><[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > >>Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > > >>still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > >> > > >>P4 1.5ghz > > >>256 PC800 , 400fsb > > >>Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > > >>avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > >> > > >>Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > > >>So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine in > > >>so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > > >>Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same graphics > > >>engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they have > > >>gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D until > > >>one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > > So how about it is there ANYONE in this NG with enough knowledge to explain why > > this guy can barely run it and a lot of us can't get it to run at all??? > > Enough of this "Must be something wrong with your system" Crap....with this > > guy's setup that's a given but how about some clues people!!!!??? > > There's nothing wrong with his system. It's because he's running > with 4xFSAA.

You've got a problem somewhere. I'm running an Athlon 800, with an original GeForce DDR (Anni-Pro), and I'm pulling 30-50fps and the only thing I've turned down is the 'World' setting to about 40%. I even have the mirrors on full, which is the biggest fps eater I've found. Running 1024X768X16. Do you have FSAA on? It's on by default in most drivers. I don't use it as I don't see enough benifit for the performance loss. You got some tweaking to do. I should NOT be beating your system in the FPS war. -Larry "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > P4 1.5ghz > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine

in > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the samegraphics > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think theyhave > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3Duntil > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > >

I was going to mention that, but didn't want to start a holy war. :) -Larry "Jagg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:46:38 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> thus > spoke: > > > >You have a problem with your system. > >I run faster than that on my PIII-1000/Voodoo5. > > > > > > Um, I think it might be because he bought a P4. Weaker FPU than P3 > even. If you want a killer machine today then buy an AMD 1.2ghz. I'm > waiting for at least 1.5ghz Thunderbird before I even consider > upgrading my P3@880. > -- > Jagg

I believe you've over-exaggerated here a bit. I don't recall anyone claiming this... -Larry "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sorry , I do not believe you guys are getting 70fps running 1280x960x16and > 4x4 FSAA with everthing maxed out and drawing 42 cars ahead and 10 behind. > I know I could turn the FSAA off and get better but it then looks really > bad, I know I could turn the drawn ahead cars down to 15 or so but why > should we have to, new engine or not it will never looked better thanHEAT

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> to me, I'm not saying its not a better SIM, I think it is, just that HEAT > has better graphics and I can run with the above config, and still get > 50+fps. > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > > > P4 1.5ghz > > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics

engine > in > > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphicscard.

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> > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same > graphics > > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they > have > > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D > until > > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > > > > > > > >

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> > Give 'em hell Pierre! ;) > > -- > Scott B. Husted > "PA-Scott" > ICQ# 4395450

Heehaw!! ;)

Say hi if you see me online bud! Still racing under PA-Scott on Won. -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott The Pits: PowerSims Magazine (http://www.theuspits.com) Pierre Robitaille <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Scott B. Husted" wrote: > > > > Give 'em hell Pierre! ;) > > > > -- > > Scott B. Husted > > "PA-Scott" > > ICQ# 4395450 > > Heehaw!! ;)

It's the P4. http://www.emulators.com/pentium4.htm Until Intel optimizes N4 for Papy, I'd stay away from the P4. Jason. Morris Jones wrote:

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> > Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > P4 1.5ghz > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics engine in > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics card. > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same graphics > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they have > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D until > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it.

-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL, Fun Run Sims) http://www.racersdomain.com - Race hosting. (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

I would say they need a better graphics engine then, because Nascar Heat has better graphics and higher frame rates. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Jfqh6.46898$[email hidden]...

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> One of the developers from Papyrus told me it was an all new graphics > engine. > > David G FIsher > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > > > P4 1.5ghz > > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics

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> > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same > graphics > > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they > have > > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D > until > > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > > > > > > >

I would totally agree with that statement. Nascar 4 is very good, just the graphics in Heat are better with better framerates. "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sorry , I do not believe you guys are getting 70fps running 1280x960x16and > 4x4 FSAA with everthing maxed out and drawing 42 cars ahead and 10 behind. > I know I could turn the FSAA off and get better but it then looks really > bad, I know I could turn the drawn ahead cars down to 15 or so but why > should we have to, new engine or not it will never looked better thanHEAT

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> to me, I'm not saying its not a better SIM, I think it is, just that HEAT > has better graphics and I can run with the above config, and still get > 50+fps. > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > > > P4 1.5ghz > > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics

engine > in > > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphicscard.

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> > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same > graphics > > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they > have > > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D > until > > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > > > > > > > >

Higher framerates - yes. Better graphics - subjective ( I think they look to cartoonish for my tastes). -- Don Burnette "Mr. Nospam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qS4i6.118499$[email hidden]... > I would say they need a better graphics engine then, because Nascar Heat has > better graphics and higher frame rates. > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Jfqh6.46898$[email hidden]... > > One of the developers from Papyrus told me it was an all new graphics > > engine. > > > > David G FIsher > > > > > > "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Just my 2 cents, I did do the upgrade and > > > still can't but barely run everything maxed out. > > > > > > P4 1.5ghz > > > 256 PC800 , 400fsb > > > Geforce 2 Ultra 64 > > > avg. 30fps in N4, in D3D, or opengl. > > > > > > Heat, though with better graphics maxed out, 50+ fps. > > > So I think again it is because papy has not updated their graphics > engine > > in > > > so long it can't really take full advantage of these newer graphics > card. > > > Think about it , they use to use Rendition on pretty much the same > > graphics > > > engine, which Indy Car 2 did look very good on it. But, I think they > > have > > > gotten all they are going to get out of it, even GPL would not do D3D > > until > > > one of the guys took it on his self to write a patch for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >