N4 rankings question

Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4. I have got to find out how far I am from my next point. Didn't see anything on it in the manual. Thanks

No one knows. Papy won't tell us. "Todd Kelley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YIOn6.1760$[email hidden]... > Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4. I have got to find out how > far I am from my next point. Didn't see anything on it in the manual. > > Thanks > >

Todd Kelley <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YIOn6.1760$[email hidden]... > Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4. I have got to find out how > far I am from my next point. Didn't see anything on it in the manual. > > Thanks > > Why don't you try finishing races and not wall riding.

superfreak wrote... Why don't you try finishing races and not wall riding. I believe he was just kidding :)

superfreak likes young boys...oh yeah and he wrecks people on purpose:) "superfreak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:97of47$4pmi$[email hidden]... > > Todd Kelley <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:YIOn6.1760$[email hidden]... > > Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4. I have got to find outhow

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> > far I am from my next point. Didn't see anything on it in the manual. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Why don't you try finishing races and not wall riding. > >

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** If you find out, tell the other million of us. Papy will not breath word one about this, and we know damned well they have seen the outcry for an explanation page for the Rankings. I am very dissapointed in their handling of this issue. -Larry "Todd Kelley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YIOn6.1760$[email hidden]... > Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4. I have got to find out how > far I am from my next point. Didn't see anything on it in the manual. > > Thanks > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>"Todd Kelley" <[email hidden]> wrote > Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4. I have got to find out how > far I am from my next point. Control-Shift while your in your information tab inside N4 is as far as we know. It's very close to the NROS in terms of how you go up a skill. We shall just ignore the stats for the moment. Papyrus has just not yet implemented them fully. Wait until the patch. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** Frank, What he wants, and what we ALL want, is a document, web page, scrawlings in the sand, whatever that breaks down this ranking system, how you are scored, damage points system, etc... The numbers mean nothing right now because we don't know what was done to _get_ the numbers. NROS had a specific web page that explained, in detail, the ranking systems. My preference is to have no less available for the current system. -Larry "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NeSn6.14590$[email hidden]... > >"Todd Kelley" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4. I have got to find outhow

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> > far I am from my next point. > > > Control-Shift while your in your information tab inside N4 is as far as we > know. It's very close to the NROS in terms of how you go up a skill. We > shall just ignore the stats for the moment. Papyrus has just not yet > implemented them fully. Wait until the patch. > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

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> >**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** > >If you find out, tell the other million of us. Papy will not breath word >one about this, and we know damned well they have seen the outcry for an >explanation page for the Rankings. > >I am very dissapointed in their handling of this issue. > >-Larry

It pisses me off. Here I drive in a Nascar club and wuld consider myself to be a good driver. Not the fastest, but rarely get involved in mistakes on the track. Yet here I run in a few daytona online races and get crashed out on the starts by a bunch of idiots that try to pass on the start. next race I am getting passed in turn 3 at Daytona 3 abreast and both people on each side of me warp and I get a BF out of nowhere. No my rating is 28lpi and I can't race on any of the brickserver races. WTF? Some good damn game penalizes me because a bunch of retards are on open races and enjoy causing wrecks. COME ON PAPY....

>"Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote > What he wants, and what we ALL want, is a document, web page, scrawlingsin > the sand, whatever that breaks down this ranking system, how you arescored, > damage points system, etc... Like I said, there is none, "at the moment". Let's remember N4 is just a couple of weeks old, and hasn't got patched officially yet. Be sure that Papyrus knows all about the situation, and that what you see is just a preview of the real statistics. We will all have a rundown on what exactly makes us go up a skill. It's still VERY similar to the NROS, almost the same thing. Somebody could just read the NROS rule and have a 95% idea on the N4 stats. > The numbers mean nothing right now because we don't know what was done to > _get_ the numbers. It's all a matter of finishing ahead of drivers with better skills. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Just out of curiosity, (and that I've forgotten some of what was calculated) Didn't NROS calculate your wining positions in your rankings? If I remember right, they did, please correct me if I'm wrong. Any case, that was one of the biggest things I absolutely hated about NROS rankings. You could have an LPI of 50,000,000 but because you never finished a race above 20th position, you had a relative bad rank. Err.. You were penalized for finishing last. I'm still getting used to N4 and I do enjoy an occasional Dega or daytona race. Although I am never the cause of the wrecks to my knolage, I am still involved with them and end up getting points reduced. I don't mind this, what I don't like is also having points reduced because I finished in 15th because of that/those wrecks. I'm assuming they are calculated in the final rankings because of the negative numbers I get after each race. If it were up to me, LPI would be calculated completely and totally separate from the final rankings. Same with the finishing positions, completely and totally separate from the final rankings. Same with the X and the Y and so forth. Each thing that is calculated should have a rank in it's own and we should *not* have an over all rank. but that's my opinion. (btw: 5xx.xx lpi at the moment) ymenard wrote in message ...

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>>"Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote >> What he wants, and what we ALL want, is a document, web page, scrawlings >in >> the sand, whatever that breaks down this ranking system, how you are >scored, >> damage points system, etc... > > >Like I said, there is none, "at the moment". Let's remember N4 is just a >couple of weeks old, and hasn't got patched officially yet. Be sure that >Papyrus knows all about the situation, and that what you see is just a >preview of the real statistics. We will all have a rundown on what exactly >makes us go up a skill. It's still VERY similar to the NROS, almost the >same thing. Somebody could just read the NROS rule and have a 95% idea on >the N4 stats. > > > > > >> The numbers mean nothing right now because we don't know what was done to >> _get_ the numbers. > >It's all a matter of finishing ahead of drivers with better skills. > > > > > >-- >-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >-- May the Downforce be with you... >-- http://www.ymenard.com/ >-- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how >hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** It would be nice if Papy would acknowledge that they acknowledge :) As best I can tell, they have side-stepped ALL inquiries into this, like it's a big secret or something. -Larry "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UKSn6.14595$[email hidden]...

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> >"Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote > > What he wants, and what we ALL want, is a document, web page, scrawlings > in > > the sand, whatever that breaks down this ranking system, how you are > scored, > > damage points system, etc... > > > Like I said, there is none, "at the moment". Let's remember N4 is just a > couple of weeks old, and hasn't got patched officially yet. Be sure that > Papyrus knows all about the situation, and that what you see is just a > preview of the real statistics. We will all have a rundown on what

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> makes us go up a skill. It's still VERY similar to the NROS, almost the > same thing. Somebody could just read the NROS rule and have a 95% idea on > the N4 stats. > > > > > > > The numbers mean nothing right now because we don't know what was done

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> > _get_ the numbers. > > It's all a matter of finishing ahead of drivers with better skills. > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

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>WTF? Some good damn game penalizes me because a bunch of retards are on open >races and enjoy causing wrecks. Welcome to the world of online racing. As long as we have open races that anyone can join, we're going to have morons that learned their races skills and etiquette in the Quake arena. This is the biggest reason I hardly ever race the open races anymore, confining myself mostly to league races. At least then I know who I'm racing against. Dave Casey Casey#9 (NASCAR Racing 4) www.teamcasey.net www.lvkc.com www.buycoolcrap.com

>calculated) Didn't NROS calculate your wining positions in your rankings? >If I remember right, they did, please correct me if I'm wrong. Any case, >that was one of the biggest things I absolutely hated about NROS rankings. Excuse me but isn't this the whole idea behind strapping a helmet on and going racing? The higher up the leader board you finish, the better your rankings? Yes, I believe I read that somewhere. Dave Casey Casey#9 (NASCAR Racing 4) www.teamcasey.net www.lvkc.com www.buycoolcrap.com

>Welcome to the world of online racing. As long as we have open races that >anyone can join, we're going to have morons that learned their races skills >and etiquette in the Quake arena. This is the biggest reason I hardly ever >race the open races anymore, confining myself mostly to league races. At >least then I know who I'm racing against. hmm.. didn't think about this till just now. We used to be able to run two (or more) ID's on TEN. We would run one for pickup races and one for League races. Has anyone tried to setup a second account on here yet? I'm wondering if I did set up a second account, would it take everything from my old account and transfer it? Or, Would it delete my old account and start a fresh new account? or, would I have the availability to run either or account at will?

>"Dog-Leg" <[email hidden]> wrote > It would be nice if Papy would acknowledge that they acknowledge :) Gee guys can you just WAIT a little. Everybody is slamming Papy for AI (which is still excellent and better then 99% of the racing games on the markeT), for Blackflag problems (which are mostly related to their own on-track faults), Multi problem, etc... It's still the most complete and by far racing simulation on the market. People want everything everytime all the time everywhere... geeze relax <G> :-/ -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

>"Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote > We used to be able to run two (or more) ID's on TEN. But of course, you had to pay an account for each ID screename. You could have however you wanted, if you could pay the extra 40$ per 3month for each of them. Anyway the N4 ranking is NOT important. Rankings are NOT important. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

>"Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote > You could have an LPI of 50,000,000 but because you never finished a race > above 20th position, you had a relative bad rank. Err.. You werepenalized > for finishing last. No, you were only penalised if you finished behind people who had skills like you/under you, and also from incidents. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

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>>"Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote >> You could have an LPI of 50,000,000 but because you never finished a race >> above 20th position, you had a relative bad rank. Err.. You were >penalized >> for finishing last. > > >No, you were only penalised if you finished behind people who had skills >like you/under you, and also from incidents.

That's right! I knew there was something I was missing.

>"Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote > That's right! I knew there was something I was missing. It's okay ;) Actually it wasn't not all whom had the same or below skills as you, it was a maximum 3skills from you. Thus if you were in a 0-15 Dega race and you were a skill race, all the 0-11 skill guys who beat you had no effect on your score. I loved the system, I'm very sure that it's almost the same in N4. I've checked out my track results (Control-Shift on your name in the profile pop-up) and it looks very similar. I could check out my NROS stuff as I was the first NROS Guide, but it's stuff on the past. I think I've deleted them anyways... I'm sure when the time is come and Papyrus feels their statistic system is good (notice LPI aren't counted most of the time), we will know all about their system. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

A Huge PLONK & OUCH.. "superfreak" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:97of47$4pmi$[email hidden]... | | Todd Kelley <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:YIOn6.1760$[email hidden]... | > Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4. I have got to find outhow | > far I am from my next point. Didn't see anything on it in the manual. | | Why don't you try finishing races and not wall riding. | |

But they are implemented on the brickservers. Which, of course, is where I get my best connections too. "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EzVn6.14604$[email hidden]... > >"Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote > > We used to be able to run two (or more) ID's on TEN. > > > But of course, you had to pay an account for each ID screename. You could > have however you wanted, if you could pay the extra 40$ per 3month foreach

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> of them. > > Anyway the N4 ranking is NOT important. Rankings are NOT important. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >