Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it to play
online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . Someone is
allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra , lotof
good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :(
NASCAR 4 CD key reported as already in use
Ken Brown found his NASCAR Racing 4 CD key already logged in online and assumed it had been stolen. Others suggested ghost logins from the server not registering a disconnect, while copy-protection complaints and CD-ROM incompatibilities were aired again. Sierra support later told him the key came back as invalid.
Automated summary.
Sorry forgot to say this is Nascar 4
"Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]...
> Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it to play
> online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . Someone is
> allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra , lotof
> good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :(
>
>
maybe you typed a key wrong. easy to do w/ such a long #
Ken Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]...
> Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it to play
> online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . Someone is
> allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra , lotof
> good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :(
>
>
I feel for ya. I had gone thru the same bs with my n3 truck pack which I
gave to nobody nor the key. Seems as if the keys for n4 are closely
generated where its easy to mix-match them or possibly a keygenerator is
out. Just wish papy would just implant the F)(&#$^ key in the cd software
code this way its an unknown code for many.
--
Sincerely,
Mark F.
-- SimGoRacing --
http://www.simgoracing.com
"Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Sorry forgot to say this is Nascar 4
> "Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]...
> > Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it to
play
> > online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . Someone
is
> > allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra ,
lotof
> > good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :(
> >
> >
>
>
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On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:16:27 -0500, "Mark F."
<[email hidden]> wrote wonderful things about sparkplugs:
> Just wish papy would just implant the F)(&#$^ key in the cd software
>code this way its an unknown code for many.
impossible. think of what you're asking. every CD would have to be
diff't. You can't drop an image and change things. Even if you could
it would be child's play to figure it out.
--
Member of the Nondeterministic Football League
"Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]...
> Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it to play
> online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . Someone is
> allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra , lotof
> good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :(
Hasn't happened to me (yet), but if it did I'd be pretty darn angry. Hope
Sierra is able to help you out. It's things like this where the legitimate
purchaser gets screwed while the warez people use the product anyway that
makes me think they should just drop these forms of copy protection.
Here use this cd key: #BR549
This copy protection crap on N4 is really the pits...
I sent overseas for N4, because it still hasn't reached Oz yet, and my
3 month old CD rom drive won't read the CD.
"No", it's not a read/writer, it's a Panasonic 48 speed, and works
faultlessly with all my other software.
I borrowed a mates CD rom to install N4 on my computer, but i still
can't log on to Sierra, because i have to use the no-cd crack to play
my legitimate game i paid for..
This is really pissing me off, as it's us legitimate users that are
suffering, while the warez guys are playing, "trouble free".
"No", don't bother telling me to go out and buy another CD Rom drive,
as that is total bullshit.
There is nothing wrong with my CD Rom drive..
As far as the key code is concerned, when/if there is a patch released
to finally allow me to play my legally bought game, and i find someone
else using my key code which prevents me from logging on to Sierra,
then there will be bloody hell to play...
This crap has really gone on for long enough, so for Christ's sake
Sierra/Papy, drop this key code crap and let us play like we have the
right to..
I can't even run in my N4 league races while the server is hosting
through Sierra...
It has made me laugh that over the last 6 weeks or so, the guys that
are sticking up for this crap system from Sierra/Papy, just happen to
be the guys that don't have problems, or are rich enough to keep on
going out and buying CD Rom drives untill they find one that will work
with the "faulty" software..
Signed, a very unhappy customer.
Ron Ayton
Australia
Gault <[email hidden]> wrote in article
<980s86$rdv$[email hidden]>...
>
> "Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]...
> > Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using itto play
> > online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got .Someone is
> > allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra ,lotof
> > good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :(
>
> Hasn't happened to me (yet), but if it did I'd be pretty darn angry. Hope
> Sierra is able to help you out. It's things like this where thelegitimate
> purchaser gets screwed while the warez people use the product anywaythat
> makes me think they should just drop these forms of copy protection.
>
>
>
This copy protection ***on N4 is really the pits...
I sent overseas for N4, because it still hasn't reached Oz yet, and my
3 month old CD rom drive won't read the CD.
"No", it's not a read/writer, it's a Panasonic 48 speed, and works
faultlessly with all my other software.
I borrowed a mates CD rom to install N4 on my computer, but i still
can't log on to Sierra, because i have to use the no-cd crack to play
my legitimate game i paid for..
This is really pissing me off, as it's us legitimate users that are
suffering, while the warez guys are playing, "trouble free".
"No", don't bother telling me to go out and buy another CD Rom drive,
as that is total bullshit.
There is nothing wrong with my CD Rom drive..
As far as the key code is concerned, when/if there is a patch released
to finally allow me to play my legally bought game, and i find someone
else using my key code which prevents me from logging on to Sierra,
then there will be ***y hell to play...
This ***has really gone on for long enough, so for Christ's sake
Sierra/Papy, drop this key code ***and let us play like we have the
right to..
I can't even run in my N4 league races while the server is hosting
through Sierra...
It has made me laugh that over the last 6 weeks or so, the guys that
are sticking up for this ***system from Sierra/Papy, just happen to
be the guys that don't have problems, or are rich enough to keep on
going out and buying CD Rom drives untill they find one that will work
with the "faulty" software..
Signed, a very unhappy customer.
Ron Ayton
Australia
> > Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it to play
> > online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . Someone is
> > allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra , lotof
> > good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :(
> Hasn't happened to me (yet), but if it did I'd be pretty darn angry. Hope
> Sierra is able to help you out. It's things like this where the legitimate
> purchaser gets screwed while the warez people use the product anyway that
> makes me think they should just drop these forms of copy protection.
You've convinced me not to buy N4.
"Ron Ayton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:01c0a5ba$321c7600$de4236cb@ronayton...
> This copy protection crap on N4 is really the pits...
LOL...
Hiya Mickey..
It really did piss me off Mickey, and you know me well enough to know i
am holding back, heaps !!! <G>
If they don't fix this soon, then i won't hold back much longer. :)
I was going to try to catch you up on the track, but it seems you damn
Rednecks have conspired against us Downunder boys to make sure we can't
log on to Sierra to give yus the flogging on the track yus need. <G>
Good to hear from you Mickey and i can't wait to get that Coke car of
yours between my right fender and the wall...
Cya bud,
Ron
Mickey Kerkes <[email hidden]> wrote in article
<[email hidden]>...
> Ron don't hold back........tell us how you really feel<G>
>
> Mick
>
Ron don't hold back........tell us how you really feel<G>
Mick
On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 21:07:40 GMT, "Ron Ayton" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
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>This copy protection crap on N4 is really the pits... >I sent overseas for N4, because it still hasn't reached Oz yet, and my >3 month old CD rom drive won't read the CD. >"No", it's not a read/writer, it's a Panasonic 48 speed, and works >faultlessly with all my other software. >I borrowed a mates CD rom to install N4 on my computer, but i still >can't log on to Sierra, because i have to use the no-cd crack to play >my legitimate game i paid for.. >This is really pissing me off, as it's us legitimate users that are >suffering, while the warez guys are playing, "trouble free". >"No", don't bother telling me to go out and buy another CD Rom drive, >as that is total bullshit. >There is nothing wrong with my CD Rom drive.. >As far as the key code is concerned, when/if there is a patch released >to finally allow me to play my legally bought game, and i find someone >else using my key code which prevents me from logging on to Sierra, >then there will be bloody hell to play... >This crap has really gone on for long enough, so for Christ's sake >Sierra/Papy, drop this key code crap and let us play like we have the >right to.. >I can't even run in my N4 league races while the server is hosting >through Sierra... >It has made me laugh that over the last 6 weeks or so, the guys that >are sticking up for this crap system from Sierra/Papy, just happen to >be the guys that don't have problems, or are rich enough to keep on >going out and buying CD Rom drives untill they find one that will work >with the "faulty" software.. > >Signed, a very unhappy customer. >Ron Ayton >Australia > >Gault <[email hidden]> wrote in article ><980s86$rdv$[email hidden]>... >> >> "Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]... >> > Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it >to play >> > online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . >Someone is >> > allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra , >lotof >> > good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :( >> >> Hasn't happened to me (yet), but if it did I'd be pretty darn angry. >Hope >> Sierra is able to help you out. It's things like this where the >legitimate >> purchaser gets screwed while the warez people use the product anyway >that >> makes me think they should just drop these forms of copy protection. >> >> >>
"Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:9810if$u4t$[email hidden]...
> You've convinced me not to buy N4.
On the other hand I haven't had a single problem with the game. Works and
runs great and I really enjoy it. But the copy protection deal where
someone else could use my code and keep me from playing does irk me.
I had no problem with installation either, although it (as expected) didn't
run worth a damn on my PII 333. Probably 80% of the purchasers have been
able to install it with no problems. However, that's just not good enough -
it should be over 95%. We're not talking rocket science here - CD players
have been around for quite some time now.
"Gault" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > "Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9810if$u4t$[email hidden]... > > You've convinced me not to buy N4. > > On the other hand I haven't had a single problem with the game. Works and > runs great and I really enjoy it. But the copy protection deal where > someone else could use my code and keep me from playing does irk me. > >Something I've been wondering is if a burned copy would work in drives that
the original won't work in? If you know someone with a burner perhaps you
could have them burn you a copy and try it. Just a thought :)
Don
"Ron Ayton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> This copy protection crap on N4 is really the pits... > I sent overseas for N4, because it still hasn't reached Oz yet, and my > 3 month old CD rom drive won't read the CD. > "No", it's not a read/writer, it's a Panasonic 48 speed, and works > faultlessly with all my other software. > I borrowed a mates CD rom to install N4 on my computer, but i still > can't log on to Sierra, because i have to use the no-cd crack to play > my legitimate game i paid for.. > This is really pissing me off, as it's us legitimate users that are > suffering, while the warez guys are playing, "trouble free". > "No", don't bother telling me to go out and buy another CD Rom drive, > as that is total bullshit. > There is nothing wrong with my CD Rom drive.. > As far as the key code is concerned, when/if there is a patch released > to finally allow me to play my legally bought game, and i find someone > else using my key code which prevents me from logging on to Sierra, > then there will be bloody hell to play... > This crap has really gone on for long enough, so for Christ's sake > Sierra/Papy, drop this key code crap and let us play like we have the > right to.. > I can't even run in my N4 league races while the server is hosting > through Sierra... > It has made me laugh that over the last 6 weeks or so, the guys that > are sticking up for this crap system from Sierra/Papy, just happen to > be the guys that don't have problems, or are rich enough to keep on > going out and buying CD Rom drives untill they find one that will work > with the "faulty" software.. > > Signed, a very unhappy customer. > Ron Ayton > Australia > > Gault <[email hidden]> wrote in article > <980s86$rdv$[email hidden]>... > > > > "Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]... > > > Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it > to play > > > online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . > Someone is > > > allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra , > lotof > > > good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :( > > > > Hasn't happened to me (yet), but if it did I'd be pretty darn angry. > Hope > > Sierra is able to help you out. It's things like this where the > legitimate > > purchaser gets screwed while the warez people use the product anyway > that > > makes me think they should just drop these forms of copy protection. > > > > > >Ken,
Maybe your key is out there even if you didn't give it away. You might try
reinstalling. If that doesn't work, I'd certainly raise hell with Sierra.
Stress the fact that since Sierra is so very concerned with piracy maybe
they should find out just who exactly has your key. I don't think that
would be very difficult for them to do.
I'm just glad my key is safe. I've never seen anyone online with the number
Y55932-CV93443-T39XPY6-B100XXC.
That number is safe so far.
Alanb
"Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]...
> Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it to play
> online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . Someone is
> allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra , lotof
> good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :(
>
>
"Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:EuVo6.5720$[email hidden]...
snip snip
LOL
I 've had the problem 3 times today , but after 30 min or so then I get in .
I wonder if it only looks for the key when your in the Lobby ? so if someone
is racing then it doesn't see them ??? just a thought . The last time I log
into the sever I just left it logged in and left the computer going (2way
cable) here and also have a zone alarm . Have had the game for awhile and
this is the first day I've had this problem
I went through the same BS....and was told repeatedly here to go buy a new
ROM drive (I have a Panasonic DVD). Nothing else has ever caused a problem
with the drive, so I returned my N4 and bought a different one across town.
Works perfectly. Sierra will replace yours--it's defective.
Marc.
"Ron Ayton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> This copy protection crap on N4 is really the pits... > I sent overseas for N4, because it still hasn't reached Oz yet, and my > 3 month old CD rom drive won't read the CD. > "No", it's not a read/writer, it's a Panasonic 48 speed, and works > faultlessly with all my other software. > I borrowed a mates CD rom to install N4 on my computer, but i still > can't log on to Sierra, because i have to use the no-cd crack to play > my legitimate game i paid for.. > This is really pissing me off, as it's us legitimate users that are > suffering, while the warez guys are playing, "trouble free". > "No", don't bother telling me to go out and buy another CD Rom drive, > as that is total bullshit. > There is nothing wrong with my CD Rom drive.. > As far as the key code is concerned, when/if there is a patch released > to finally allow me to play my legally bought game, and i find someone > else using my key code which prevents me from logging on to Sierra, > then there will be bloody hell to play... > This crap has really gone on for long enough, so for Christ's sake > Sierra/Papy, drop this key code crap and let us play like we have the > right to.. > I can't even run in my N4 league races while the server is hosting > through Sierra... > It has made me laugh that over the last 6 weeks or so, the guys that > are sticking up for this crap system from Sierra/Papy, just happen to > be the guys that don't have problems, or are rich enough to keep on > going out and buying CD Rom drives untill they find one that will work > with the "faulty" software.. > > Signed, a very unhappy customer. > Ron Ayton > Australia > > Gault <[email hidden]> wrote in article > <980s86$rdv$[email hidden]>... > > > > "Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]... > > > Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it > to play > > > online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . > Someone is > > > allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra , > lotof > > > good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :( > > > > Hasn't happened to me (yet), but if it did I'd be pretty darn angry. > Hope > > Sierra is able to help you out. It's things like this where the > legitimate > > purchaser gets screwed while the warez people use the product anyway > that > > makes me think they should just drop these forms of copy protection. > > > > > >I know sometimes when you sign off it might take a few minutes for the
system to actually log you off, and if you try to sign back on in that
period of time it will think someone is already logged on with your number.
--
Don Burnette
D Burnette in N4
Some people do nothing wrong.
The problem is, they do nothing.
And THAT is wrong.
"Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:EuVo6.5720$[email hidden]...
> snip snip
>
> LOL
> I 've had the problem 3 times today , but after 30 min or so then I get in
.
> I wonder if it only looks for the key when your in the Lobby ? so if
someone
> is racing then it doesn't see them ??? just a thought . The last time I
log
> into the sever I just left it logged in and left the computer going (2way
> cable) here and also have a zone alarm . Have had the game for awhile and
> this is the first day I've had this problem
>
>
>
Quake 3 has a 5 minute cd key timeout built into the id Software master
server. This means that if you're playing online and reconnect (for example
if your modem dies, or if you decide to change dialup) then the master
server still thinks you're connected on your old IP. Your new IP is rejected
until the 5 minute timeout expires.
Don't know if this is the same system used by N4, but if you're on a modem
(i.e. you don't have a fixed IP) it might be worth going to stick the kettle
on if you need to redial, to let that timeout expire.
HTH
Jim
"Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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.
> I wonder if it only looks for the key when your in the Lobby ? so ifsomeone
> is racing then it doesn't see them ??? just a thought . The last time Ilog
> into the sever I just left it logged in and left the computer going (2way
> cable) here and also have a zone alarm . Have had the game for awhile and
> this is the first day I've had this problem
>
>
>
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> > "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:EuVo6.5720$[email hidden]... > snip snip > > LOL > I 've had the problem 3 times today , but after 30 min or so then I get inTrue, but I am sure with some minor (or major) software recording changes,
Papyrus can make inside each exe called reg_num() or something like that and
have it in their automatically instead of everyone having to type it. It'd
be one way closer into stopping the warez. And eventually, even have
yourself type the number and make sure each unique cd only works with one
unique number..
--
Sincerely,
Mark F.
-- SimGoRacing --
http://www.simgoracing.com
"Lou Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:16:27 -0500, "Mark F."
> <[email hidden]> wrote wonderful things about sparkplugs:
>
>
> > Just wish papy would just implant the F)(&#$^ key in the cd software
> >code this way its an unknown code for many.
>
> impossible. think of what you're asking. every CD would have to be
> diff't. You can't drop an image and change things. Even if you could
> it would be child's play to figure it out.
>
> --
> Member of the Nondeterministic Football League
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In article <01c0a5ba$321c7600$de4236cb@ronayton>, "Ron Ayton"
<[email hidden]> writes:
>As far as the key code is concerned, when/if there is a patch released
>to finally allow me to play my legally bought game, and i find someone
>else using my key code which prevents me from logging on to Sierra,
>then there will be bloody hell to play...
>
This type of thing was RAMPANT with Starcraft. There were so many keygen
programs that many legitimate buyers couldn't login to BattleNet to play. I'm
not sure how Blizzard handled that problem(I wasn't affected). But, I
understand being SERIOUSLY pissed if you couldn't log on with a game you
BOUGHT. I'd be pressing for the company either to fix the problem, or replace
my game free of charge...
Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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with experience...
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In article <980s86$rdv$[email hidden]>, "Gault"
<[email hidden]> writes:
In the battle between the copy protectors and the copy breakers, there can only
be one winner. The copy breakers...
Eldred
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>"Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]... >> Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it to play >> online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . Someone is >> allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra , lotof >> good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :( > >Hasn't happened to me (yet), but if it did I'd be pretty darn angry. Hope >Sierra is able to help you out. It's things like this where the legitimate >purchaser gets screwed while the warez people use the product anyway that >makes me think they should just drop these forms of copy protection.YOUR CD KEY IS NOT STOLEN. The servers have an issue (as in N3) with
ghost logins from the last time you were there. If you get booted and then
try to get back in, the server may not have had enough time to acknowledge
your disconecttion.
"Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:EuVo6.5720$[email hidden]...
> Ken,
>
> Maybe your key is out there even if you didn't give it away. You mighttry
> reinstalling. If that doesn't work, I'd certainly raise hell with Sierra.
> Stress the fact that since Sierra is so very concerned with piracy maybe
> they should find out just who exactly has your key. I don't think that
> would be very difficult for them to do.
>
> I'm just glad my key is safe. I've never seen anyone online with thenumber
play
> > online . I just tryed to login on line and this is what I got . Someoneis
> > allready logged in using this CD Key . I sent a message to Sierra ,lotof
> > good that will do I'm sure lol . #U**#$ :(
> >
> >
>
>
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> Y55932-CV93443-T39XPY6-B100XXC. > > That number is safe so far. > > Alanb > "Ken Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:geQo6.11835$[email hidden]... > > Well s--- someone out there has guessed my CD Key and is using it toYeah but I'm talking about buying software not playing a lottery.
"Gault" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > "Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9810if$u4t$[email hidden]... > > You've convinced me not to buy N4. > > On the other hand I haven't had a single problem with the game. Works and > runs great and I really enjoy it. But the copy protection deal where > someone else could use my code and keep me from playing does irk me. > >Copy protection is back precisely because CD-ROM drives have matured.
Commodore 64 games came with copy protection that depended on
undocumented quirks of the 1541 disk drive. Some of the copy
protection schemes allegedly threw the drive alignment out of whack
with intentional sector errors.
CD-ROM drives have been around long enough that copy-protection
vendors have found non-standard quirks that work on, say, 80% of the
drives. They've convinced the game publishers that saving the
"billions" lost to piracy will make up for the lost sales and support
cost due to shipping defective CDs.
"Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Jon Willeke <[email hidden]>
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>I had no problem with installation either, although it (as expected) didn't >run worth a damn on my PII 333. Probably 80% of the purchasers have been >able to install it with no problems. However, that's just not good enough - >it should be over 95%. We're not talking rocket science here - CD players >have been around for quite some time now. > >"Gault" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:98138b$70a$[email hidden]... >> >> "Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:9810if$u4t$[email hidden]... >> > You've convinced me not to buy N4. >> >> On the other hand I haven't had a single problem with the game. Works and >> runs great and I really enjoy it. But the copy protection deal where >> someone else could use my code and keep me from playing does irk me."Jon Willeke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>
> CD-ROM drives have been around long enough that copy-protection
> vendors have found non-standard quirks that work on, say, 80% of the
> drives. They've convinced the game publishers that saving the
> "billions" lost to piracy will make up for the lost sales and support
> cost due to shipping defective CDs.
But how can a CD drive be concidered "defective" if it works fine for the
standard non-quirky uses but only fails the "undocumented" ones?
If the CD drive were still under warrenttee would failing to work with N4's
copy-protection scheme be grounds for returning an otherwise perfectly
functioning drive?
Not if you bought the drive from my store!
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"Don Rodriguez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Here use this cd key: #BR549
>
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Sierra Tech support just sent me a email and I quote:
Summary: Some body is using my CD Key . see file attachment What can I do
about this ...
SUGGESTED SOLUTION:
At 03/07/2001 03:27 PM we wrote -
Please send me a copy of the CD so I can verify it.
At 03/08/2001 11:05 AM we wrote -
Hello,
The key has come back as invalid. Yoiu will need to take the CD
back to weher you purchased it from and obtain a valid CD Key


































