N4 online and poor sportsmanship

--I mostly race in a league but since N4 came out I jumped into a few pick up races and I cannot believe what is going on out there. --Someone thinks you took their line next chance they get they hit you. And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem. --I've mostly avoided this vigilante stuff (as I tend to sandbag until only the real racers ae left running.) but still the cursing is off the hook. I like to curse as much as the next guy but not online WHILE I'm DRIVING; no wonder these guys spend so much time in the wall! --Tell someone you're going high, they block you. --Can't wait for my Wed Night League. -- Member of the Nondeterministic Football League

I hear ya! It has gotten so bad that they tell ya they will wreck the leader if they can. One out of every three pickup races has a wall rider...it's way out of control. I have got to find a league..can someone recommend any or is it too late. TKelley "Lou Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> --I mostly race in a league but since N4 came out I jumped into a few > pick up races and I cannot believe what is going on out there. > > --Someone thinks you took their line next chance they get they hit > you. And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem. > > --I've mostly avoided this vigilante stuff (as I tend to sandbag until > only the real racers ae left running.) but still the cursing is off > the hook. I like to curse as much as the next guy but not online > WHILE I'm DRIVING; no wonder these guys spend so much time in the > wall! > > --Tell someone you're going high, they block you. > > --Can't wait for my Wed Night League. > > -- > Member of the Nondeterministic Football League

Hopefully, the ranking system will eventually provide some degree of screening. Marc. "Todd Kelley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zbVo6.2883$[email hidden]...

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> I hear ya! It has gotten so bad that they tell ya they will wreck the > leader if they can. One out of every three pickup races has a wall > rider...it's way out of control. I have got to find a league..can someone > recommend any or is it too late. > > TKelley > "Lou Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > --I mostly race in a league but since N4 came out I jumped into a few > > pick up races and I cannot believe what is going on out there. > > > > --Someone thinks you took their line next chance they get they hit > > you. And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem. > > > > --I've mostly avoided this vigilante stuff (as I tend to sandbag until > > only the real racers ae left running.) but still the cursing is off > > the hook. I like to curse as much as the next guy but not online > > WHILE I'm DRIVING; no wonder these guys spend so much time in the > > wall! > > > > --Tell someone you're going high, they block you. > > > > --Can't wait for my Wed Night League. > > > > -- > > Member of the Nondeterministic Football League > >

That's why I like league so much, hard to find decent pickup races. Nothing can beat a good league with good drivers. -- Don Burnette D Burnette in N4 Some people do nothing wrong. The problem is, they do nothing. And THAT is wrong. "Lou Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > --I mostly race in a league but since N4 came out I jumped into a few > pick up races and I cannot believe what is going on out there. > > --Someone thinks you took their line next chance they get they hit > you. And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem. > > --I've mostly avoided this vigilante stuff (as I tend to sandbag until > only the real racers ae left running.) but still the cursing is off > the hook. I like to curse as much as the next guy but not online > WHILE I'm DRIVING; no wonder these guys spend so much time in the > wall! > > --Tell someone you're going high, they block you. > > --Can't wait for my Wed Night League. > > -- > Member of the Nondeterministic Football League

Am I missing something here? "Lou Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem. >

Am I missing something here? And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem.

Marc, I was up to a 4 rating in SS with a LPI of 389... I was in a 3-10 rated race then I had a warped car {going into turn1-lap1} in the middle of my car {out of nowhere} I crashed, got booted out of the race + lost 2 rating points. Why? Tia.. Cheers Thom_j. P.S. Yes in the past 2 weeks I went from great races to DemoDerbys now! "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OtVo6.342065$[email hidden]... | Hopefully, the ranking system will eventually provide some degree of | screening. | | Marc.

On Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:14:03 -0800, "Kirk House" <[email hidden]> wrote wonderful things about sparkplugs: >Am I missing something here? OK example. Martinsville. 60mph in the apex of a turn. From behind Mark Martin slams into the back of my car. Let's say he's full on the gas at 120mph; my car is NOT going to flip over. Certainly not TAIL OVER NOSE! THe flipping is silly.

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> >"Lou Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... > >And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem. >> > >

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Its still doing the "flying cars" crap that the demo had? I've been resisting buying this one, maybe i'll hold off and see what the next patch brings... G Patricks

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>On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 10:31:34 -0500, Lou Moran <[email hidden]> wrote: >On Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:14:03 -0800, "Kirk House" <[email hidden]> >wrote wonderful things about sparkplugs: > >>Am I missing something here? > >OK example. Martinsville. 60mph in the apex of a turn. From behind >Mark Martin slams into the back of my car. Let's say he's full on the >gas at 120mph; my car is NOT going to flip over. Certainly not TAIL >OVER NOSE! > >THe flipping is silly. >> >>"Lou Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >> >>And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem. >>> >> >>

**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** Lappers Blocking, slower staying in the low line, Rail-Runners, and these FRIGGIN bozo's who feel it is their right to pull up from the infield right in front of traffic because they spun out and were 'inconvienced' and delayed are truly frustrating. Oh, and those that prefer to use the 'smash right through' method of avoiding wrecks instead of carefully braking and steering around really set me free. I can't believe how many times I've been able to brake/steer and (rather skillfully, I must say) avoid a massive wreck only to be ass-ended by someone doing 200mph who never even bothered to let up. -Larry "Todd Kelley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zbVo6.2883$[email hidden]...

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> I hear ya! It has gotten so bad that they tell ya they will wreck the > leader if they can. One out of every three pickup races has a wall > rider...it's way out of control. I have got to find a league..can someone > recommend any or is it too late. > > TKelley > "Lou Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > --I mostly race in a league but since N4 came out I jumped into a few > > pick up races and I cannot believe what is going on out there. > > > > --Someone thinks you took their line next chance they get they hit > > you. And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem. > > > > --I've mostly avoided this vigilante stuff (as I tend to sandbag until > > only the real racers ae left running.) but still the cursing is off > > the hook. I like to curse as much as the next guy but not online > > WHILE I'm DRIVING; no wonder these guys spend so much time in the > > wall! > > > > --Tell someone you're going high, they block you. > > > > --Can't wait for my Wed Night League. > > > > -- > > Member of the Nondeterministic Football League > >

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**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** We are starting to get to that phase. I know for the last two weekends I've been racing on the high-skill brick-onecall server that cycles Daytona and Talladega, and it's been far more reasonable and fun. Man, there are a couple of guys pulling out _unreal_ qual times there. -Larry "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OtVo6.342065$[email hidden]...

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> Hopefully, the ranking system will eventually provide some degree of > screening. > > Marc. > > > "Todd Kelley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zbVo6.2883$[email hidden]... > > I hear ya! It has gotten so bad that they tell ya they will wreck the > > leader if they can. One out of every three pickup races has a wall > > rider...it's way out of control. I have got to find a league..can

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> > recommend any or is it too late. > > > > TKelley > > "Lou Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > --I mostly race in a league but since N4 came out I jumped into a few > > > pick up races and I cannot believe what is going on out there. > > > > > > --Someone thinks you took their line next chance they get they hit > > > you. And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem. > > > > > > --I've mostly avoided this vigilante stuff (as I tend to sandbag until > > > only the real racers ae left running.) but still the cursing is off > > > the hook. I like to curse as much as the next guy but not online > > > WHILE I'm DRIVING; no wonder these guys spend so much time in the > > > wall! > > > > > > --Tell someone you're going high, they block you. > > > > > > --Can't wait for my Wed Night League. > > > > > > -- > > > Member of the Nondeterministic Football League > > > > > >

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> can beat a good league with good drivers. > > -- > Don Burnette > D Burnette in N4 > > Some people do nothing wrong. > The problem is, they do nothing. > And THAT is wrong. > > "Lou Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > --I mostly race in a league but since N4 came out I jumped into a few > > pick up races and I cannot believe what is going on out there. > > > > --Someone thinks you took their line next chance they get they hit > > you. And since N4 is working on 50% gravity that's a problem. > > > > --I've mostly avoided this vigilante stuff (as I tend to sandbag until > > only the real racers ae left running.) but still the cursing is off > > the hook. I like to curse as much as the next guy but not online > > WHILE I'm DRIVING; no wonder these guys spend so much time in the > > wall! > > > > --Tell someone you're going high, they block you. > > > > --Can't wait for my Wed Night League. > > > > -- > > Member of the Nondeterministic Football League > >

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You guys are complaining about shit that's been happenning in Nascar online racing since the first day that TEN was available. Sadly, if you want something close to a guarantee that your online racing is going to be clean, you MUST join a league. I've seen all the crap you guys are listing in this thread, and it's just one of those deals. It's not ever going to be like GPL because a) GPL isn't widely available any longer, b)GPL is always difficult to learn (no "arcade" realism/physics), and c) the crowd attracted is generally younger than it is for GPL. Have you noticed that the majority of races are beginning to show up as password-protected? The online childishness of the rogue/clueless drivers is the cause. It's never gonna change, so join a league.

In article <PWVo6.12382$[email hidden]>, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> writes: >That's why I like league so much, hard to find decent pickup races. Nothing >can beat a good league with good drivers. So how do you get in a good league if you're not a good driver(read: slow)? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Sadly John is correct.. I enjoy all type online racing and many other forms of racing online do and do not have the "childish" activities going.. Bottom line: a} Yes, join a league to avoid this, b} password races Or c} just try to find the best open races you can but this will be a "crap-shoot" at best.. I don't mind any of the 3 but I just enjoy the race and "yes" even with the "juvenile hot-heads" that scream, curse and even try to crash into you on purpose. This sux but I just let it go and move on to the next race.. jmho Cheers Thom_j. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| You guys are complaining about shit that's been happenning in Nascar | online racing since the first day that TEN was available. Sadly, if you | want something close to a guarantee that your online racing is going to | be clean, you MUST join a league. | | I've seen all the crap you guys are listing in this thread, and it's | just one of those deals. It's not ever going to be like GPL because a) | GPL isn't widely available any longer, b)GPL is always difficult to | learn (no "arcade" realism/physics), and c) the crowd attracted is | generally younger than it is for GPL. | | Have you noticed that the majority of races are beginning to show up as | password-protected? The online childishness of the rogue/clueless | drivers is the cause. | | | It's never gonna change, so join a league.

Eldred, There's lots of leagues out there, and I'm sure more forming. Might want to keep an eye out on Jacob's general discussion forum, that's where most are posting. Just post there what nights you might be interested in , and I'm sure you'll get some replies. -- Don Burnette D Burnette in N4 Some people do nothing wrong. The problem is, they do nothing. And THAT is wrong. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <PWVo6.12382$[email hidden]>, "Don Burnette" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >That's why I like league so much, hard to find decent pickup races. Nothing > >can beat a good league with good drivers. > > So how do you get in a good league if you're not a good driver(read: slow)? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <PWVo6.12382$[email hidden]>, "Don Burnette" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >That's why I like league so much, hard to find decent pickup races. Nothing > >can beat a good league with good drivers. > > So how do you get in a good league if you're not a good driver(read: slow)? > > Eldred >

Eldred, I'd much rather deal with finding a way around a slow, clean driver than worrying about whether or not the blue flamer behind me is gonna be able to pass without shoving me into the wall. Most leagues have probationary or "proof-of-ability" races where they judge you mostly on your ability to stay out of trouble. Find a league that a) fits your schedule, and b) has a ruleset you can live comfortably with. Maybe what we need is an "association" or "society" for people that don't want to join a league but that want to race online with like- minded drivers.

John Simmons wrote: > > Maybe what we need is an "association" or "society" for people that > don't want to join a league but that want to race online with like- > minded drivers. Now THAT sounds like the answer. Kinda like the F2 Club in GPL. -- Fester

sorry fellow....RASers....can't....re--sist....must....type.....too weak ....see ....below... "Uncle Fester" > > Maybe what we need is an "association" or "society" for people that > > don't want to join a league but that want to race online with like- > > minded drivers. > > Now THAT sounds like the answer. Kinda like the F2 Club in GPL. > Fester And we can call it the ND league!!!!!!!!!!!!! dave henrie

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>In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... >> In article <PWVo6.12382$[email hidden]>, "Don Burnette" >> <[email hidden]> writes: >> >> >That's why I like league so much, hard to find decent pickup races. >Nothing >> >can beat a good league with good drivers. >> >> So how do you get in a good league if you're not a good driver(read: slow)? >> >> Eldred >> > >Eldred, I'd much rather deal with finding a way around a slow, clean >driver than worrying about whether or not the blue flamer behind me is >gonna be able to pass without shoving me into the wall. >

Hehe...trust me - I have a LOT of experience being passed. Not all passers are good at it<G>. >Most leagues have probationary or "proof-of-ability" races where they >judge you mostly on your ability to stay out of trouble. Find a league >that a) fits your schedule, and b) has a ruleset you can live >comfortably with.I'm in 3 GPL leagues(although two just want me for my servers...<g>). Although I've been *involved* in a few crashes, I don't think I've CAUSED any. I feel very proud about that. > >Maybe what we need is an "association" or "society" for people that >don't want to join a league but that want to race online with like- >minded drivers.I know of an F2 club that does that(they occasionally used my server). I tried to run a couple of their races, but I was nowhere NEAR up to speed. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.