Gran Turismo 3 is AWESOME

I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set up with wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or GPL, but the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests my friend couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played. I would certainly buy a PS2 if i could afford it even though I've hated consoles lately. GT3 just blew me away. By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If so could I use my LWFF on it? Probably not, but i'd feel weird about owning 2 wheels. Anyway, i'll probably never get a PS2, so hopefully, WSC will come out and be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is.

"roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Iup77.6887$[email hidden]... > I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set up with > wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or GPL,but > the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million > times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests my friend > couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played. I > would certainly buy a PS2 if i could afford it even though I've hated > consoles lately. GT3 just blew me away. I wouldn't say it's more fun, but it is a fun game even with the awful AI. > By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If socould > I use my LWFF on it? Probably not, but i'd feel weird about owning 2wheels. > Anyway, i'll probably never get a PS2, so hopefully, WSC will come out and > be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is. No the LWFF will not work, but the new Logitech GP will.

I don't agree about the N4 and GPL aren't fun, but I do agree that Gran Tourismo is fun, and reasonably reasilitic to drive. I haven't tried GT3 yet, but have been driving Grand Tourismo 2 a lot lately, and just love it. If not for the AI, just the pure exhileration of driving some of the road courses flat out, buying new cars and trying different ones. Great fun! Totally recommend it, even with a gamepad. James "Andrew S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zoq77.768$[email hidden]... > "roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Iup77.6887$[email hidden]... > > I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set upwith > > wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or GPL, > but > > the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million > > times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests myfriend > > couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played.I

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> > would certainly buy a PS2 if i could afford it even though I've hated > > consoles lately. GT3 just blew me away. > > I wouldn't say it's more fun, but it is a fun game even with the awful AI. > > > By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If so > could > > I use my LWFF on it? Probably not, but i'd feel weird about owning 2 > wheels. > > Anyway, i'll probably never get a PS2, so hopefully, WSC will come out

and > > be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is. > > No the LWFF will not work, but the new Logitech GP will. > >

I think act labs is makung a cartdridge for the ps2...check with them. "roy" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: Iup77.6887$[email hidden]... > I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set up with > wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or GPL,but

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> the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million > times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests my friend > couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played. I > would certainly buy a PS2 if i could afford it even though I've hated > consoles lately. GT3 just blew me away. > > By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If so

could > I use my LWFF on it? Probably not, but i'd feel weird about owning 2wheels. > Anyway, i'll probably never get a PS2, so hopefully, WSC will come out and > be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is. > > >

Actually, I have to agree that N4 is pretty boring... the physics, the graphics and the simulation are top notch for sure, the best Nascar simulator by far, but it's just the reality of going round and round... lightly moving the steering wheel and gas pedal always in the same general direction... it gets long. "roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Iup77.6887$[email hidden]... > I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set up with > wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or GPL,but

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> the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million > times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests my friend > couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played. I > would certainly buy a PS2 if i could afford it even though I've hated > consoles lately. GT3 just blew me away. > > By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If so

could > I use my LWFF on it? Probably not, but i'd feel weird about owning 2wheels. > Anyway, i'll probably never get a PS2, so hopefully, WSC will come out and > be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is. > > >

"Alain" <[email hidden]> writes: > Actually, I have to agree that N4 is pretty boring... the physics, the > graphics and the simulation are top notch for sure, the best Nascar > simulator by far, but it's just the reality of going round and round... > lightly moving the steering wheel and gas pedal always in the same general > direction... it gets long. If you find N4 boring you are not driving fast enough :D Sorry, couldn't resist.

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> > "roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Iup77.6887$[email hidden]... > > I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set up with > > wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or GPL, > but > > the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million > > times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests my friend > > couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played. I > > would certainly buy a PS2 if i could afford it even though I've hated > > consoles lately. GT3 just blew me away. > > > > By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If so > could > > I use my LWFF on it? Probably not, but i'd feel weird about owning 2 > wheels. > > Anyway, i'll probably never get a PS2, so hopefully, WSC will come out and > > be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is. > > > > > > > >

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I find it's fun in traffic while playing online, though I'm no NASCAR fan at all! (Hate those damn rednecks ;) I may be from the USA, but give me my CART, F1, and Pro Rally/WRC and I'll be happy :)) Just the close tight racing online and being real smooth while going around a fast sweeper consistantly feels SOOOOO good. Thanks, Alex Alain <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EmA77.34670$[email hidden]...

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> Actually, I have to agree that N4 is pretty boring... the physics, the > graphics and the simulation are top notch for sure, the best Nascar > simulator by far, but it's just the reality of going round and round... > lightly moving the steering wheel and gas pedal always in the same general > direction... it gets long. > > > "roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Iup77.6887$[email hidden]... > > I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set up

with > > wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or GPL, > but > > the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million > > times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests myfriend > > couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played.I

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> > would certainly buy a PS2 if i could afford it even though I've hated > > consoles lately. GT3 just blew me away. > > > > By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If so > could > > I use my LWFF on it? Probably not, but i'd feel weird about owning 2 > wheels. > > Anyway, i'll probably never get a PS2, so hopefully, WSC will come out

and > > be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is. > > > > > > > >

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>I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set up with >wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or GPL, but >the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million >times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests my friend >couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played. I >would certainly buy a PS2 if i could afford it even though I've hated >consoles lately. GT3 just blew me away. > >By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If so >could >I use my LWFF on it? Probably not, but i'd feel weird about owning 2 >wheels. >Anyway, i'll probably never get a PS2, so hopefully, WSC will come out and >be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is. > >

I've not got or played either N4 - though have all the other N* games - or GT3, but was wondering how you can decide whether GT3 won't also becoming boring pretty quickly since you've only played it for one night? -- Peter Ives Remove ALL_STRESS before replying If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77

In article <iKA77.28472$[email hidden]>, "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> writes: >Just the close tight >racing online and being real smooth while going around a fast sweeper >consistantly feels SOOOOO good. I wouldn't know...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

roy wrote: <snip> > > By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If so > could > I use my LWFF on it?The PS2 supports USB keyboards and mice. GT3 was actually developed using the Logitech Formula Force GP, which is identical to the Force GT that they are selling now. The LWFF is not compatible since it was cable-driven and the new ones are gear-driven. Either wheel will work on the PS2 or a PC. The PS2 also has a firewire port, whcih is currently used for connecting multiple PS2's together and playing GT3 with 3 TV's and 3 PS2's for instance. -- Stuff You Gotta Have software for BeOS and PalmOS http://www.stuffyougottahave.com/

The thing about GT3 is it has a decent amount of tracks, but like 150 cars that you can buy and upgrade, and a bunch of different "race series" and play modes. The most fun is the actual driving and watching replays. NFS porsche unleashed is the closest thing on a computer, but the physics or graphics arent as good, and I've gotten sick of porsche's. "Peter Ives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <Iup77.6887$[email hidden]>, roy > <[email hidden]> writes > >I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set upwith > >wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or GPL,but > >the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million > >times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests my friend > >couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played.I

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> >be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is. > > > > > I've not got or played either N4 - though have all the other N* games - > or GT3, but was wondering how you can decide whether GT3 won't also > becoming boring pretty quickly since you've only played it for one > night? > -- > Peter Ives > Remove ALL_STRESS before replying > If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me > GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77

NFS > porsche unleashed is the closest thing on a computer, but the physics or > graphics arent as good, and I've gotten sick of porsche's. Actually IMHO, I think that SCGT is by far the closest thing on the PC to GT3. There are numerous cars in the standard game, not to mention 100 + addon cars out there at various sites. The stock physics are a bit less demanding than GT3's , but you can tweak the physics models variables for any given car, and thereby achieve far more realistic physics, more comparable to the better sims. SCGT and GT3 have been dominating most of my playing time over the last 2 weeks, they are soo good. N4 has no doubt the best physics model of any sim, but oval courses just are not that compelling for me. Once I am into an oval course race it can be a blast, but somehow I do not seem to get back to racing N4 or Nascar heat that often, compared to my other sims. It's like watching an old Bogart movie, if there is nothing else on TV at 4 A.M. I can really get into and enjoy Casablanca, but I would hardly go looking for it after the fact. "roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3yL77.9265$[email hidden]...

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> The thing about GT3 is it has a decent amount of tracks, but like 150 cars > that you can buy and upgrade, and a bunch of different "race series" and > play modes. The most fun is the actual driving and watching replays. NFS > porsche unleashed is the closest thing on a computer, but the physics or > graphics arent as good, and I've gotten sick of porsche's. > > "Peter Ives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <Iup77.6887$[email hidden]>, roy > > <[email hidden]> writes > > >I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set up > with > > >wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or

GPL, > but > > >the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million > > >times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests myfriend

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> > >couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played. > I > > >would certainly buy a PS2 if i could afford it even though I've hated > > >consoles lately. GT3 just blew me away. > > > > > >By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If so > > >could > > >I use my LWFF on it? Probably not, but i'd feel weird about owning 2 > > >wheels. > > >Anyway, i'll probably never get a PS2, so hopefully, WSC will come out > and > > >be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is. > > > > > > > > I've not got or played either N4 - though have all the other N* games - > > or GT3, but was wondering how you can decide whether GT3 won't also > > becoming boring pretty quickly since you've only played it for one > > night? > > -- > > Peter Ives > > Remove ALL_STRESS before replying > > If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me > > GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77 > > > >

A definite Hall Of Fame racer in my book. "roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Iup77.6887$[email hidden]... > I played it at my friend's house the other day, he had a table set up with > wheel and pedals! Man oh man, it might not be as realistic as N4 or GPL,but

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> the physics are still great, and most importantly, it's about a million > times more fun. I spent all night beating all the license tests my friend > couldnt beat, and he was in shock since it was the first time i played. I > would certainly buy a PS2 if i could afford it even though I've hated > consoles lately. GT3 just blew me away. > > By the way, I remember reading PS2 has USB ports? Is that true? If so

could > I use my LWFF on it? Probably not, but i'd feel weird about owning 2wheels. > Anyway, i'll probably never get a PS2, so hopefully, WSC will come out and > be better. Playing GT3 made me realize how absolutely boring N4 is. > > > >

"Olly Greenfield" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZGQ77.1221$[email hidden]... > A definite Hall Of Fame racer in my book. > > > << Loads of stuff about GT 3 snipped>> Your saying GT3 is dead good - I am hearing this right? Quick question to those who have played it - are you married? I ask, because the idea of explaining to my wife that, as well as a computer with a funny wheel attachment I also require a device called a "Playstation 2" and *another* wheel attachment is enough to make my ears bleed. Don't even dare mention that this would also require access to the "soap box" TV she stares at insessantly. She'd book me in for therapy - after a long explanation of exactly how much money will be required for the next family holiday. I can't be the only one. So, until they rename "Playstation 2" as a "3rd Generation DVD player" and make it compatible with my LWFF, could we please shut up about GT3 - my health is at stake!

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:35:23 +0100, "steven crook-dawkins" <[email hidden]> wrote: >So, until they rename "Playstation 2" as a "3rd Generation DVD >player" and make it compatible with my LWFF, could we please >shut up about GT3 - my health is at stake! Hm, you might want to wait for the X-Box then, doesn't sound kiddy at all, even more so, you might have to explain to your wife that this really isn't a box to view X-rated DVD's! ;-) Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25 Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/ Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

If anyone cares, there's a groovy trick you can pull in GT3 to poke a hole in its driving model. If you've got the cash, or fancy completing all Rally Licence stages on gold, get a Escudo Pikes Peak Edition. Its a bit of a beast, and can be upgraded to around 1800bhp, tops of about 430kph. Take it to the test circuit, and edit the settings: lower ground clearance and springs setup to lowest set suspension bound to the highest set suspension rebound to lowest 0 camber +2 FF and -2 FR toe turn off all leccy driving aids (VCD, etc) put maximum downforce on rear, none on front set gear ratios as wide as they'll go now get on the circuit, turn around and start powering along. you'll hit around 350 on the first long corner - keep the exit speed up and then just tear along the long straight. when you hit about 400, the nose begins to rise.. 450 and the car slides up to riding on its back wheels, completely perpendicular to the road surface. and then the speedo goes through the roof, and the car launches itself forward to over 1400kph...! bruuuum!! although totally impractical for race conditions.

I'd rather poke something more exciting then GT3.. phew "Shiro Kuroneko" wrote: | If anyone cares, there's a groovy trick you can pull in GT3 to poke a | hole in its driving model. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

> > I wouldn't say it's more fun, but it is a fun game even with the awful AI. I definatly agree with you, the AI is on rails. The AI makes no changes to there path, even if there is a car in the way.

> I find it's fun in traffic while playing online, though I'm no NASCAR fanat > all! (Hate those damn rednecks ;) I may be from the USA, but give me my > CART, F1, and Pro Rally/WRC and I'll be happy :)) Yeah now your talking, finally someone agrees with me, that Nascar is Redneck racing. I too am from the USA. I'm definatly not a Nascar fan. I can't see how anyone stays awake during those races. I've tried to watch them, and they put me to sleep faster than sleeping pills (this is watching on TV of course, I think it would be hard to fall asleep at the actual race).

"roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3yL77.9265$[email hidden]... > The thing about GT3 is it has a decent amount of tracks, but like 150 cars > that you can buy and upgrade, and a bunch of different "race series" and > play modes. The most fun is the actual driving and watching replays. NFS > porsche unleashed is the closest thing on a computer, but the physics or > graphics arent as good, and I've gotten sick of porsche's. I hate to break it to you, but the physics in GT3 are not that good. I have both, GT3 feels great at first, but all the cars pretty much feel the same, even the rally cars have the same feeling as road cars. As far as upgrading the cars, thats kind of silly, because I end up buying all the same parts for all the cars I buy. so it's somewhat pointless. I enjoy the game, but I doubt I will be playing it still in 6 months.

> So, until they rename "Playstation 2" as a "3rd Generation DVD > player" and make it compatible with my LWFF, could we please > shut up about GT3 - my health is at stake! > > Ok, I'll make you feel better. GT3 is not that good. Feel better. If you have a PS2, it's a must have. But I don't think it's worth buying a PS2 for. There are so few "quality" racing games on the PS2 to make it worth the money. It's kind of funny actually, if GT3 came out on PC, RAS would be calling it crap. I have no doubt of that. There would be alot of GT3 talk for about a month, then the subjects would switch back to GPL.

Is the AI any better in GT3 than it is in GT2? I found the best way to win many of the races, was to run the first lap at 2/3 speed, because the other cars did too, then floor it on the last lap. It was strange the other cars AI was tied to how fast the player went.

"jalo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Vv387.17415$[email hidden]... > Yeah now your talking, finally someone agrees with me, that Nascar is > Redneck racing. I too am from the USA. I'm definatly not a Nascar fan. I > can't see how anyone stays awake during those races. I've tried to watch > them, and they put me to sleep faster than sleeping pills (this iswatching > on TV of course, >I think it would be hard to fall asleep at the actual > race). I bet I could. David G Fisher

"jalo" <[email hidden]> writes: > Ok, I'll make you feel better. GT3 is not that good. Feel better. If you > have a PS2, it's a must have. But I don't think it's worth buying a PS2 for. > There are so few "quality" racing games on the PS2 to make it worth the > money. I wonder; how many here play with nothing but racers? > It's kind of funny actually, if GT3 came out on PC, RAS would be calling it > crap. I don't think so. I think it'd go in the Porsche Unleashed drawer. > I have no doubt of that. There would be alot of GT3 talk for about a > month, then the subjects would switch back to GPL. probably, yeah. :) -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 gitaren er en sjingke

Hey, That sounds like a bug in Burnout when it was first released. It's turning the downforce into thrust. -- In memory of DE, - Will - M1MS - http://mach1.simhq.com "Shiro Kuroneko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If anyone cares, there's a groovy trick you can pull in GT3 to poke a > hole in its driving model. <<clipped>

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 08:32:29 GMT, "Olly Greenfield" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Actually IMHO, I think that SCGT is by far the closest thing on the PC to >GT3. I disagree. What makes GT3 so addictive isn't just the driving model (good as it is) but the rewards for racing. You earn cash which can by used to purchase 100+ cars and thousands of upgrade parts. The closest in terms of gameplay on the PC is NFS Porsche Unleashed.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:35:23 +0100, "steven crook-dawkins" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Quick question to those who have played it - are you married? I am,. but I work in the gaming industry. So it's easier to get justify. My wife is also a pretty amazing lady I must say. Picked up and moved the whole family without a second thought when I got offered the game design gig here in Vancouver, because she knew how much I'd love it. And yes, I do know how lucky I am. ;-)

Sounds like a real keeper to me "Joe62" :o) Does she have a single sister who'd like to just lounge around here and never have to work!! huh? huh?huh? :o) "Joe62" wrote:

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> Is the AI any better in GT3 than it is in GT2? I found the best way > to win > many of the races, was to run the first lap at 2/3 speed, because the > other > cars did too, then floor it on the last lap. It was strange the other > cars AI > was tied to how fast the player went.

Afraid not, but I do see some "human-like" behavior such as going off into the grass and spinouts by the AI drivers. -- Stuff You Gotta Have software for BeOS and PalmOS http://www.stuffyougottahave.com/

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:03:20 GMT, [email hidden] (Joe62) wrote: >I disagree. What makes GT3 so addictive isn't just the driving model >(good as it is) but the rewards for racing. You earn cash which can by >used to purchase 100+ cars and thousands of upgrade parts. You win cash in SCGT to do the same thing.

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> > "jalo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Vv387.17415$[email hidden]... > > Yeah now your talking, finally someone agrees with me, that Nascar is > > Redneck racing. I too am from the USA. I'm definatly not a Nascar fan. I > > can't see how anyone stays awake during those races. I've tried to watch > > them, and they put me to sleep faster than sleeping pills (this is > watching > > on TV of course, > > >I think it would be hard to fall asleep at the actual > > race). > > I bet I could.

How on earth do you stay awake for that boring pile of shite known as F1 then?

"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote: >Sounds like a real keeper to me "Joe62" :o) Does she have a >single sister who'd like to just lounge around here and never >have to work!! huh? huh?huh? :o) 'Fraid not, her sister is married. But in my opinion (<g>) I got the good one anyway. Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment

Hell "Joe62" I will take 2nd to the best!! :) Tell sis'inlaw to get a divorce!! {shamelessly I announce :-)..} "Joe62" wrote:

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| | 'Fraid not, her sister is married. But in my opinion (<g>) I got the | good one anyway. | | Joe McGinn | _____________________ | Radical Entertainment | "Thom j." wrote: | >Sounds like a real keeper to me "Joe62" :o) Does she have a | >single sister who'd like to just lounge around here and never | >have to work!! huh? huh?huh? :o)

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On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 01:31:33 GMT, "jalo" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yeah now your talking, finally someone agrees with me, that Nascar is >Redneck racing. I too am from the USA. I'm definatly not a Nascar fan. I >can't see how anyone stays awake during those races. I've tried to watch >them, and they put me to sleep faster than sleeping pills (this is watching >on TV of course, I think it would be hard to fall asleep at the actual >race). Heck I managed it at CART (or Indycar as it was then) which I enjoy, and that was at a road course. Considering relative amounts of enjoyment I'd reckon a could easily kip my way through an entire NASCAR race. John -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

N4, IMO, badly needs a feature like accelerated wear to enforce pitting. Because of the rather boring tracks, NASCAR needs a strong strategy dimension. What good are those pit animinations? You almost never see the unless you pit for repairs. Driving around in circles on Sierra was fun- for a while. Agreed that the physics are top-notch. "Alain" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EmA77.34670$[email hidden]...

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> Actually, I have to agree that N4 is pretty boring... the physics, the > graphics and the simulation are top notch for sure, the best Nascar > simulator by far, but it's just the reality of going round and round... > lightly moving the steering wheel and gas pedal always in the same general > direction... it gets long. > >

It doesn't have this? WTF? David G Fisher "P. C. Oxford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yDZ87.38594$[email hidden]... > N4, IMO, badly needs a feature like accelerated wear to enforce pitting. > Because of the rather boring tracks, NASCAR needs a strong strategy > dimension.

You sound suprised? This has been discussed many times here, you should know N4 does not have accelerated tire wear option. Don Burnette "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rJZ87.49205$[email hidden]...

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> It doesn't have this? WTF? > > David G Fisher > > "P. C. Oxford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:yDZ87.38594$[email hidden]... > > N4, IMO, badly needs a feature like accelerated wear to enforce pitting. > > Because of the rather boring tracks, NASCAR needs a strong strategy > > dimension. >

Nascar Heat has that option but does not have PIT repair strategy..i.e. once you start repairs, you must stay in the pits til completed...easy to go down several laps during a yellow. dave henrie "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KV_87.2892$[email hidden]...

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> You sound suprised? > > This has been discussed many times here, you should know N4 does not have > accelerated tire wear option. > > Don Burnette > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:rJZ87.49205$[email hidden]... > > It doesn't have this? WTF? > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "P. C. Oxford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:yDZ87.38594$[email hidden]... > > > N4, IMO, badly needs a feature like accelerated wear to enforce

pitting. > > > Because of the rather boring tracks, NASCAR needs a strong strategy > > > dimension. > > > >

>"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote > This has been discussed many times here, you should know N4 does not have > accelerated tire wear option. Not only that, it probably shows that he never actually has tried N4. Or he would had known. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

In article <Vv387.17415$[email hidden]>, "jalo" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> I find it's fun in traffic while playing online, though I'm no NASCAR fan >at >> all! (Hate those damn rednecks ;) I may be from the USA, but give me my >> CART, F1, and Pro Rally/WRC and I'll be happy :)) > >Yeah now your talking, finally someone agrees with me, that Nascar is >Redneck racing. I too am from the USA. I'm definatly not a Nascar fan. I >can't see how anyone stays awake during those races. I've tried to watch >them, and they put me to sleep faster than sleeping pills (this is watching >on TV of course, I think it would be hard to fall asleep at the actual >race). >

Why do some people find it necessary to slam a form of racing that they don't like? If you don't like it, fine - don't watch it. Others do. No need to insult the sport... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.