Newbie, best race sim please.

Ok guy's i have just about had it with the kill em all games, seems to be a much freindlier bunch here so please let me know what is the best online racing sim in your view, and best place to race (Server). Thanks.

GPL Grand Prix Legends Server: VROC http://vroc.net/ http://www.bonghead.org/racing/gplstart/index.html :) ok ? SZ "Jim" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:L2Ed7.4305$[email hidden]... > Ok guy's i have just about had it with the kill em all games, seems to bea > much freindlier bunch here so please let me know what is the best online > racing sim in your view, and best place to race (Server). > Thanks. > >

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:26:57 +0200, "Stefan Zscharnack" <[email hidden]> wrote: >GPL Grand Prix Legends >Server: VROC http://vroc.net/ >http://www.bonghead.org/racing/gplstart/index.html > >:) ok ? >SZ He says he's a newbie, he will probably get frustrated trying to even make it around the track in GPL so I recommend Nascar4 and use the built in Sierra/Won.net for MP.

"Jim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L2Ed7.4305$[email hidden]... > Ok guy's i have just about had it with the kill em all games, seems tobe a > much freindlier bunch here so please let me know what is the bestonline > racing sim in your view, and best place to race (Server). Onroad or offroad? Race cars or sports cars? Arcade handling or realistic handling? (or somewhere in between?) For newbie, I'd say NFS: Porsche Unleashed for onroad. --KC

Nascar 4 -- Kevin Anderson [email hidden] "Jim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L2Ed7.4305$[email hidden]... > Ok guy's i have just about had it with the kill em all games, seems to be a > much freindlier bunch here so please let me know what is the best online > racing sim in your view, and best place to race (Server). > Thanks. > >

Friendly? Us? R U Drunk??..lol Ok guyz help him out! :) "Jim" wrote: | Ok guy's i have just about had it with the kill em all games, seems to bea | much freindlier bunch here so please let me know what is the best online | racing sim in your view, and best place to race (Server). | Thanks. | | --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

"Jim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L2Ed7.4305$[email hidden]... : Ok guy's i have just about had it with the kill em all games, If you are willing to invest some time then I refer you to Stefan's posting :-) GPL is an *incredibly* frustrating sim to learn but it rewards your efforts. You will spend the first week or so discovering new and exciting ways to launch yourself into the scenery (and that's when you're not trying to...). Start slow, touring speed almost and gradually learn what the limits of the cars are. Jump in like your playing a "Need For Speed"-type sim and you'll come to hate GPL very quickly. The graphics are almost primitive now but the physics model will keep you coming back for more. After driving GPL you'll really come to appreciate racing with massive amounts of power but without downforce. Dale. ================================================== GPL Rank: +106.12 DSM: www.dsm.org CP990 Panorama Gallery: http://members.home.net/digitallattice/pano.html

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:09:48 -0400, 0x4E0x6F0x73 <[email hidden]> >He says he's a newbie, he will probably get frustrated trying to even >make it around the track in GPL so I recommend Nascar4 and use the >built in Sierra/Won.net for MP. P.S. If you don't care for oval racing then I think Swedish Touring Car Championship 2 is a great little sim that doesn't get talked about much here because it was never released state side. You can order it from www.softwarefirst.com in the UK though.

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:55:59 -0700, "Kasey Chang \(use EXCITE.COM instead!\)" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"Jim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:L2Ed7.4305$[email hidden]... >> Ok guy's i have just about had it with the kill em all games, seems to >be a >> much freindlier bunch here so please let me know what is the best >online >> racing sim in your view, and best place to race (Server). > >Onroad or offroad? >Race cars or sports cars? >Arcade handling or realistic handling? (or somewhere in between?) > >For newbie, I'd say NFS: Porsche Unleashed for onroad. > >--KC

I second the nomination for NFS: Porsche Unleashed -- probably the best recommendation for a newbie I've seen in this thread. I can't believe you guys would point an admitted newbie towards GPL . . . whatta way to lose a potential sim racer! GPL is unarguably the best, but it's also the most difficult. If I'd started with GPL, I'd probably be working on mods for Half Life now . . . :-/ NASCAR Heat is also a good starting point -- even if you don't like NASCAR, the "Beat the Heat" scenarios are a TON of fun. There are plenty of new non-NASCAR mods coming out (and lots of new tracks), so this one has a LOT of life left in it, even for the non-NASCAR bunch. -- JB

GPL, its the best sim so far ... nascar 4 is also very good ... but unfortunately you have to drive nascars..and ovals. Jim <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L2Ed7.4305$[email hidden]... > Ok guy's i have just about had it with the kill em all games, seems to bea > much freindlier bunch here so please let me know what is the best online > racing sim in your view, and best place to race (Server). > Thanks. > >

Besides Watkins Glen and Sears Point, until GPL->N4 converter comes out :) "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9l9crh$egq$[email hidden]... > GPL, its the best sim so far ... nascar 4 is also very good ... but > unfortunately you have to drive nascars..and ovals. > > Jim <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:L2Ed7.4305$[email hidden]... > > Ok guy's i have just about had it with the kill em all games, seems tobe

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:20:37 +0100, "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote: >GPL, its the best sim so far ... nascar 4 is also very good ... but >unfortunately you have to drive nascars..and ovals. That's why I suggested STCC2. It's not the sim level of N4 or GPL, but it's pretty good and is more sim than SCGT. Some say Need For Speed:Porsche Unleashed. Well, I bought that games and it plays like an arcade racing game on a console system so I wouldn't recommend it. It's certainly no sim, but it's fun for a few hours.

NFS:PU??? I think everyone might be under-estimating the newbies that post here........Obviously there are some that don't have the patience [or the time] that is required to become proficient at "Grand Prix Legends"....Buy, there are just as many that will relish the challenge and realize what a truly special piece of software GPL is!!! I've been playing golf for 18 yrs. now[ 4 handicap ].......I am hopelesly addicted......It is unbelivably hard and can never be mastered. It requires LOTS of patience, practice and determination.If a person puts in the time, the rewards are boundless!!! I have finally found something equally as rewarding [and addicting] as Golf in GPL! I discovered GPL about 2 yrs ago and have put in countless hours and laps [I'm still not good yet} and love it to death! It's a way of life for me now just as golf has been. If a newbie posted a desire to play golf on a Golf newsgroup...do you suppose the veterans would tell that newbie to go try Putt-Putt because REAL golf is so hard??? I think NOT!!! Let the newbies know there is no substitute for GPL!! [yet]....The more of "US" there is the more chances of getting an even more advanced Sim in the future. As far as dated graphics are concerned, I haven't seen too many sims that are better once the add-ons are applied!!! But we all know it's not the graphics that keep us Hotlapping and watching replays[aliens] till the wee hours trying to knock off a tenth or so....................Kajun_II

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> > I second the nomination for NFS: Porsche Unleashed -- probably the > best recommendation for a newbie I've seen in this thread. I can't > believe you guys would point an admitted newbie towards GPL . . . > whatta way to lose a potential sim racer! GPL is unarguably the best, > but it's also the most difficult. If I'd started with GPL, I'd > probably be working on mods for Half Life now . . . >

Weren't we all GPL newbies once? I don't think experience of other sims helped particularly with getting to grips with GPL.

On 14 Aug 2001 02:09:22 -0700, [email hidden] (Kajun) wrote: > If a newbie posted a desire to play golf on a Golf newsgroup...do >you suppose the veterans would tell that newbie to go try Putt-Putt >because REAL golf is so hard??? I think NOT!!! I might suggest they try a 9 hole pitch and putt course first though. People get turned off things when they are too frustrating. I still recommend STCC2. :-)

Ok guy's i like the sound of GPL, and certainly no disrespect to all who said some other sim/game,i will give it a go and judging by all the responce to my post, i will find all the help and advice here, nobody has answered the second part of my question, hows about the online aspect of the sim. Thanks. Jim. "0x4E0x6F0x73" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On 14 Aug 2001 02:09:22 -0700, [email hidden] (Kajun) wrote: > > > > If a newbie posted a desire to play golf on a Golf newsgroup...do > >you suppose the veterans would tell that newbie to go try Putt-Putt > >because REAL golf is so hard??? I think NOT!!! > > I might suggest they try a 9 hole pitch and putt course first though. > People get turned off things when they are too frustrating. I still > recommend STCC2. :-) >

You haven't lived until you've raced GPL online, no joke. If your first successfull online race doesn't leave you with a great sense of fullfillment on the one hand and wondering if "this kind of heart rate" is actually healthy on the other, I'll nuke my GPL CD in a microwave. It's the benchmark other games' online capabilities are measured against. On top of that, as far as I know, the online community is newbie friendly. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Jim" wrote... > Ok guy's i like the sound of GPL, <snip> > hows about the online aspect of the sim. > Thanks. > Jim.

Hi Jan where abouts can i race online. "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > You haven't lived until you've raced GPL online, no joke. If your first > successfull online race doesn't leave you with a great sense offullfillment > on the one hand and wondering if "this kind of heart rate" is actually > healthy on the other, I'll nuke my GPL CD in a microwave. It's thebenchmark

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> other games' online capabilities are measured against. On top of that, as > far as I know, the online community is newbie friendly. > > Jan. > =--- > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > "Jim" wrote... > > Ok guy's i like the sound of GPL, <snip> > > hows about the online aspect of the sim. > > Thanks. > > Jim. > >

At your PC, of course!! ;-) www.vroc.net has all the info. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Jim" wrote... > Hi Jan where abouts can i race online.

Go get'tem Jim!! Vroc is the place to go when you run GPL online... Alot of really good sim racers, well informed, nice & also wacky too. :) Enjoy! -Thom_j. P.S. Even EldredP goes there.. :) "Jim" wrote: | Ok guy's i like the sound of GPL, and certainly no disrespect to all who | said some other sim/game,i will give it a go and judging by all theresponce | to my post, i will find all the help and advice here, nobody has answered | the second part of my question, hows about the online aspect of the sim. | Thanks. | Jim. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:01:24 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>You haven't lived until you've raced GPL online, no joke. If your first >successfull online race doesn't leave you with a great sense of fullfillment >on the one hand and wondering if "this kind of heart rate" is actually >healthy on the other, I'll nuke my GPL CD in a microwave. It's the benchmark >other games' online capabilities are measured against. On top of that, as >far as I know, the online community is newbie friendly. > >Jan.

Now you just have to find a copy. Good luck.

In article <eFie7.104069$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> writes: >Go get'tem Jim!! Vroc is the place to go when you run GPL online... Alot >of really good sim racers, well informed, nice & also wacky too. :) Enjoy! >-Thom_j. >P.S. Even EldredP goes there.. :) So? He doesn't know who I am, and I'm just another sim racer...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"O" Bullocks!! Everyone knows EldredP :) "EldredP" wrote: | So? He doesn't know who I am, and I'm just another sim racer...<g> | | Eldred | --"Thom j." writes: | >Go get'tem Jim!! Vroc is the place to go when you run GPL online... Alot | >of really good sim racers, well informed, nice & also wacky too. :)Enjoy! | >-Thom_j. | >P.S. Even EldredP goes there.. :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Hble7.104290$[email hidden]... > "O" Bullocks!! Everyone knows EldredP :) Saint Eldred..... the athiest dave henrie

Thats Bullocks too Dave H! :) "There aint no 'athiests' in fox holes" you know! I can name that movie in one line!! Can you? :) "Dave Henrie" wrote: | the athiest | dave henrie | "Thom j." wrote: | > "O" Bullocks!! Everyone knows EldredP :) | Saint Eldred..... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

In article <a7oe7.18917$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:Hble7.104290$[email hidden]... >> "O" Bullocks!! Everyone knows EldredP :) > Saint Eldred..... > > >the athiest >dave henrie

Shhh....! :-) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <uGse7.105506$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> writes: >Thats Bullocks too Dave H! :) "There aint no 'athiests' in fox holes" >you know! I can name that movie in one line!! Can you? :) > Either Apocalypse Now or Full Metal Jacket? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Baaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrong!! Try again :) "EldredP" wrote: | Either Apocalypse Now or Full Metal Jacket? | | Eldred "Thom j." writes: | | >Thats Bullocks too Dave H! :) "There aint no 'athiests' in fox holes" | >you know! I can name that movie in one line!! Can you? :) | > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

In article <cGye7.106328$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> writes: >Baaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrong!! Try again :) > >"EldredP" wrote: >| Either Apocalypse Now or Full Metal Jacket? Phooey... Platoon? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I would guess..the quiet little film made by Coppola (I think???) Patton George C Scott's finest role... dave henrie "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uGse7.105506$[email hidden]...

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> Thats Bullocks too Dave H! :) "There aint no 'athiests' in fox holes" > you know! I can name that movie in one line!! Can you? :) > > "Dave Henrie" wrote: > | the athiest > | dave henrie > > | "Thom j." wrote: > | > "O" Bullocks!! Everyone knows EldredP :) > | Saint Eldred..... > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001 > >

Come'on E it aint that hard!! :) One more guess and here's a Hint: Think "football" and the movie isnt 2yrs old yet.. :) "EldredP" wrote: | Phooey... Platoon? | | Eldred "Thom j." writes: | >Baaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrong!! Try again :) | > | >"EldredP" wrote: | >| Either Apocalypse Now or Full Metal Jacket? | --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/19/2001

Ok Ok Wait.. Yes I do believe George C did say it Patton I forgot.. Sorry, Ok now try a recent movie via "football" :) "Dave Henrie" wrote:

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| I would guess..the quiet little film made by Coppola (I think???) | Patton | | George C Scott's finest role... | dave henrie | "Thom j." wrote: | > Thats Bullocks too Dave H! :) "There aint no 'athiests' in fox holes" | > you know! I can name that movie in one line!! Can you? :) | > | > "Dave Henrie" wrote: | > | the athiest | > | dave henrie | > | > | "Thom j." wrote: | > | > "O" Bullocks!! Everyone knows EldredP :) | > | Saint Eldred..... | > | > | > | > --- | > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | > Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001 | > | > | |

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In article <2pIe7.107517$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> writes: >Come'on E it aint that hard!! :) One more guess and here's a Hint: >Think "football" and the movie isnt 2yrs old yet.. :) Any Given Sunday? Never saw it... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

WeeeeeeOoooooooooWeeeeeeeOoooooooo U won a rubber ducky! :) Kinda' an okay movie. Not great but ok!! :) Cameron Diaz is a bitch in it and Anne Margret plays her drunken mum...hahaha Sad tho' Anne is really starting to look bad.. :( "EldredP" wrote: | Any Given Sunday? Never saw it... "Thom j." writes: | >Come'on E it aint that hard!! :) One more guess and here's a Hint: | >Think "football" and the movie isnt 2yrs old yet.. :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001