Have you been banned from N4 Multiplayer???

If you have email me at [email hidden] :)

Give it a rest buddy! Vintook "B. Hilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If you have email me at [email hidden] :)

"Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xDxj7.191413$[email hidden]... > Give it a rest buddy! >Have you been banned ? I guess not. So why are you responding ?

Wow Tuff Crowd!! :) hahaha "redTed" wrote: | Have you been banned ? I guess not. So why are you responding ? | "Vintook" wrote: | > Give it a rest buddy! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001

-- Greg31 Thom j. wrote in message ... >Wow Tuff Crowd!! :) hahaha > >"redTed" wrote: >| Have you been banned ? I guess not. So why are you responding ? > >| "Vintook" wrote: >| > Give it a rest buddy! > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001 > >

On 30 Aug 2001 12:26:12 -0700, [email hidden] (B. Hilton) wrote: >If you have email me at [email hidden] :) From a Papy server mod via the Sierra forums: "I�d like to make a few clarifications about cd keys being banned from Sierra.com�s NASCAR Racing 4 multiplayer system. Allow me to start by saying up front that we don�t want to ban anybody�s cd key. In fact, the reviewing of wrecking reports and server replays is a very time consuming process that is handled mostly in the free time of a couple of Papyrus employees. We are only doing this because the community literally screamed for us to take some action for months. Well, here we are. A very clear warning has been posted on the multiplayer login screen that you have to accept each and every time you login, and it�s been there for several weeks. First, let me define intentional wrecking. It doesn�t matter if you are the one that has been trying to take out the field for 1 or more laps, or if you�re the guy that is now retaliating against the alleged intentional wrecker. Intentional wrecking is not tolerated regardless of whether you�re the instigator or retaliator. If you are determined to be guilty after the very careful review of the entire server replay in which you were reported, your cd key is going to be banned. It doesn�t matter if you�re the seasoned veteran of online racing or the new guy just starting out and you�ve become frustrated because you�re not competitive yet. It has been the case, the majority of the time that a retaliation wreck was delivered to somebody that was obviously being accused, tried, and convicted as an intentional wrecker by the rest of the field. Yet, the review of the replay clearly showed that they were trying to run clean but either made a mistake, warped, were punted out of the way by impatient leaders screaming LAPPER GO HIGH, LEADERS COMING THROUGH, were trying to continue on with tires ready to blow from spinning, or the victim of a few other variables. (I won�t even get started on my feelings about the lapper nonsense right now <G>) We�ve processed approximately 350 reports since we started accepting them. Out of this 350, 59 user ID�s have been submitted for a cd key ban. Out of this 59, there are about 15 users that have had reports on multiple ID�s, resulting in approximately 44 actual cd keys being banned. An additional 54 user ID�s have been put on �watch�. A driver is put on watch when we cannot be absolutely 100% certain that their behavior was intentional. While we�re on this subject, we do not just look at the incident(s) that were reported. We watch the entire replay and profile the driver�s abilities, connection quality, and overall behavior. You may recall a campaign from a recently banned user claiming that he was wrongly banned. This individual�s behavior throughout the race showed that he was a very capable driver that was caught up in a racing deal early in the race. After that, he demonstrated that knew how to hold a line when faster traffic passed him, EXCEPT when 1 particular car passed him�suddenly his skill level and behavior changed, several times, and only when that same car would attempt to pass him. So, if you� been able to stay with this painfully long post, the bottom line is we are not trigger happy when issuing a cd key ban. If you are not intentionally out to wreck other users, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. In fact, the few people that are devoting their time to this have been racing online competitively for up to 7 years, and would be more than happy to spend their personal time elsewhere. (like actually racing <G>) They have the experience and know what to look for when reviewing a replay. We are still getting WAY too many bogus reports that are the result of warp, hard racing, or poor decision making on the part of 1 or more drivers, it sure would be nice to see this change in the very near future. #Papyrus1 " Cheers, Mortado Mortado's Page of Filth http://www.shadows.com/mortado/ My musician photography site http://www.gravemusic.com

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> You may recall a campaign from a recently banned user > claiming that he was wrongly banned. This individual's behavior > throughout the race showed that he was a very capable driver that was > caught up in a racing deal early in the race. After that, he > demonstrated that knew how to hold a line when faster traffic passed > him, EXCEPT when 1 particular car passed him.suddenly his skill level > and behavior changed, several times, and only when that same car would > attempt to pass him.

Hmm....I wonder who this might be??? lol Dave

With papy releasing more of the "clarifications" they are hurting their case more at this time. BH "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<WyCj7.412$[email hidden]>...

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> > You may recall a campaign from a recently banned user > > claiming that he was wrongly banned. This individual's behavior > > throughout the race showed that he was a very capable driver that was > > caught up in a racing deal early in the race. After that, he > > demonstrated that knew how to hold a line when faster traffic passed > > him, EXCEPT when 1 particular car passed him.suddenly his skill level > > and behavior changed, several times, and only when that same car would > > attempt to pass him. > > > Hmm....I wonder who this might be??? lol > > Dave

ya know you all are about retarded posting a new post just about ending one.... lets think about that logic for a minute shall we???? "Greg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<0Lzj7.224126$[email hidden]>...

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> -- > Greg31 > > > > Thom j. wrote in message ... > >Wow Tuff Crowd!! :) hahaha > > > >"redTed" wrote: > >| Have you been banned ? I guess not. So why are you responding ? > > >| "Vintook" wrote: > >| > Give it a rest buddy! > > > > > > > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001 > > > >

[email hidden] (B. Hilton) writes: > With papy releasing more of the "clarifications" they are hurting > their case more at this time. bla bla bla. What didn't that mail clarify ? It made 100% sence, and the fact that the papy guys do it partly in their spare time because the community asked for it is another hat's off to them.

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> > "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<WyCj7.412$[email hidden]>... > > > You may recall a campaign from a recently banned user > > > claiming that he was wrongly banned. This individual's behavior > > > throughout the race showed that he was a very capable driver that was > > > caught up in a racing deal early in the race. After that, he > > > demonstrated that knew how to hold a line when faster traffic passed > > > him, EXCEPT when 1 particular car passed him.suddenly his skill level > > > and behavior changed, several times, and only when that same car would > > > attempt to pass him. > > > > > > Hmm....I wonder who this might be??? lol > > > > Dave

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I know who hurts their case every time they open their mouth... Rafe Mc On 31 Aug 2001 05:47:21 -0700, [email hidden] (B. Hilton) wrote: >With papy releasing more of the "clarifications" they are hurting >their case more at this time. > >BH

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>With papy releasing more of the "clarifications" they are hurting >their case more at this time. > >BH > > > > > > > >"Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:<WyCj7.412$[email hidden]>... >> > You may recall a campaign from a recently banned user >> > claiming that he was wrongly banned. This individual's behavior >> > throughout the race showed that he was a very capable driver that was >> > caught up in a racing deal early in the race. After that, he >> > demonstrated that knew how to hold a line when faster traffic passed >> > him, EXCEPT when 1 particular car passed him.suddenly his skill level >> > and behavior changed, several times, and only when that same car would >> > attempt to pass him.

If you actually believe that, then you're beyond help... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Wreckers have gotta go!!! KUDOS PAPY!!! Papy is just giving out stop-and-go penalties, just like NASCAR You stop-and-go buy a new CD. Banning isn't taken lightly! You can bet you ass that Papy went over your replay thoroughly. They must of seen something, huh?! "B. Hilton" wrote: > If you have email me at [email hidden] :) -- Ric Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 7.01 [email hidden] http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com

>>With papy releasing more of the "clarifications" they are hurtingtheir case more at this time. BH>> Oh hush up. Michael Loos Gasoline Alley...The Fastest Show In Radio! Nationwide Saturdays at 10:00 pm Eastern - 7:00 pm Pacific Find your local affiliate at www.GasolineAlleyOnline.net

LOL, ok. Don Burnette "B. Hilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> With papy releasing more of the "clarifications" they are hurting > their case more at this time. > > BH > > > > > > > > "Dave St.Onge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> > > You may recall a campaign from a recently banned user > > > claiming that he was wrongly banned. This individual's behavior > > > throughout the race showed that he was a very capable driver that was > > > caught up in a racing deal early in the race. After that, he > > > demonstrated that knew how to hold a line when faster traffic passed > > > him, EXCEPT when 1 particular car passed him.suddenly his skill level > > > and behavior changed, several times, and only when that same car would > > > attempt to pass him. > > > > > > Hmm....I wonder who this might be??? lol > > > > Dave

Now Don, Dont you know? He is serious! :) "Don Burnette" wrote:

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| LOL, ok. | | Don Burnette | | "B. Hilton" wrote: | > With papy releasing more of the "clarifications" they are hurting | > their case more at this time. | > | > BH

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I'm gonna laugh MY ass off when YOU get banned for something you feel wasn't "intentional" ... :) Ric Seyler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> Wreckers have gotta go!!! > KUDOS PAPY!!! > > Papy is just giving out stop-and-go penalties, just like NASCAR > > You stop-and-go buy a new CD. > > Banning isn't taken lightly! You can bet you ass that > Papy went over your replay thoroughly. They > must of seen something, huh?! > > "B. Hilton" wrote: > > > If you have email me at [email hidden] :) > > -- > Ric Seyler > Online Racing: RicSeyler > GPL Handicap 7.01 > [email hidden] > http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler > -------------------------------------- > "Homer no function beer well without." > - H.J. Simpson > > > > Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** > ---------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.usenet.com

bh I'll mention this once, you had your 15minutes of fame but it is time to let it go! fwiw If you continue on with this theme in RAS it will be a guarantee most will get sick' of your rendundant posts [if most havent already?] and you'll find yourself posting to urself as most [if not all] will put you in their kill'file! It is your call & sadly the ball is in your court now.. -t.j. "B. Hilton" wrote: | I'm gonna laugh MY ass off when YOU get banned for something you feel | wasn't "intentional" ... :) | --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001

Hehe, he went in mine days ago ;) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers> "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Nbmk7.162501$[email hidden]... > bh I'll mention this once, you had your 15minutes of fame but it is > time to let it go! fwiw If you continue on with this theme in RAS it > will be a guarantee most will get sick' of your rendundant posts [if > most havent already?] and you'll find yourself posting to urself as > most [if not all] will put you in their kill'file! It is your call & sadly > the ball is in your court now.. -t.j. > > "B. Hilton" wrote: > | I'm gonna laugh MY ass off when YOU get banned for something you feel > | wasn't "intentional" ... :) > | > > > >

Yea IanP, I am probably in the minority at this point..lol "O" well I do try to be nice once in awhile :) But as most also know, Dont Get Use To IT!! :o)~ "Ian P" wrote:

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| Hehe, he went in mine days ago ;) | -- | Ian P | <email invalid due to spammers> | | "Thom j." wrote: | > bh I'll mention this once, you had your 15minutes of fame but it is | > time to let it go! fwiw If you continue on with this theme in RAS it | > will be a guarantee most will get sick' of your rendundant posts [if | > most havent already?] and you'll find yourself posting to urself as | > most [if not all] will put you in their kill'file! It is your call &

sadly | > the ball is in your court now.. -t.j. | > | > "B. Hilton" wrote: | > | I'm gonna laugh MY ass off when YOU get banned for something you feel | > | wasn't "intentional" ... :) | > | --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001

"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%rok7.162513$[email hidden]... > Yea IanP, I am probably in the minority at this point..lol "O" well > I do try to be nice once in awhile :) But as most also know, Dont > Get Use To IT!! :o)~ Nice. In a newsgroup ? Whatever next.

It was as joke redT.. Duh... "redTed" wrote:

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| | Nice. In a newsgroup ? Whatever next. | | "Thom j." wrote: | > Yea IanP, I am probably in the minority at this point..lol "O" well | > I do try to be nice once in awhile :) But as most also know, Dont | > Get Use To IT!! :o)~

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Do you all not see that you are posting as much if not more than I am? Who keeps it going? "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<9mt379$jip$[email hidden]>...

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> Hehe, he went in mine days ago ;) > > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spammers> > > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Nbmk7.162501$[email hidden]... > > bh I'll mention this once, you had your 15minutes of fame but it is > > time to let it go! fwiw If you continue on with this theme in RAS it > > will be a guarantee most will get sick' of your rendundant posts [if > > most havent already?] and you'll find yourself posting to urself as > > most [if not all] will put you in their kill'file! It is your call & sadly > > the ball is in your court now.. -t.j. > > > > "B. Hilton" wrote: > > | I'm gonna laugh MY ass off when YOU get banned for something you feel > > | wasn't "intentional" ... :) > > | > > > > > > > >

"Thom j." wrote: > > It was as joke redT.. Duh... > That's better Thom. -- Fester

No reason to laugh. I have a $50 bill in the kitty already. If it happens to me, then it means someone would of had to look at a replay and determine to ban me. I'll just have to pay my $50 and try to do better, huh?! "B. Hilton" wrote:

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> I'm gonna laugh MY ass off when YOU get banned for something you feel > wasn't "intentional" ... :) > > Ric Seyler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > > Wreckers have gotta go!!! > > KUDOS PAPY!!! > > > > Papy is just giving out stop-and-go penalties, just like NASCAR > > > > You stop-and-go buy a new CD. > > > > Banning isn't taken lightly! You can bet you ass that > > Papy went over your replay thoroughly. They > > must of seen something, huh?! > > > > "B. Hilton" wrote: > > > > > If you have email me at [email hidden] :) > > > > -- > > Ric Seyler > > Online Racing: RicSeyler > > GPL Handicap 7.01 > > [email hidden] > > http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler > > -------------------------------------- > > "Homer no function beer well without." > > - H.J. Simpson > > > > > > > > Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > http://www.usenet.com

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"Mortado wrote ... > "I'd like to make a few clarifications about cd keys being banned from > Sierra.com's NASCAR Racing 4 multiplayer system. And thank you very much for doing so. Everything is exactly as I had hoped.

"Mortado wrote ... And thank you very much for doing so. Everything is exactly as I had hoped.