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Nascar 4 and Windows XP

27 posts by 17 people · 11 Nov 2001 23:10 UTC - 17 Nov 2001 23:01 UTC

NASCAR 4 install failing on Windows XP

A user could not install NASCAR 4 after upgrading to Windows XP. Eric Busch pointed to a Microsoft article on cleaning up autoexec.nt, and another poster suggested compatibility mode. Most of the thread was an argument over whether XP is really an upgrade, with Dave Henrie listing hardware that broke under it and others praising its speed and stability.

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silverball 11 Nov 2001 23:10 UTC#152916
I recently upgraded to Windows XP and now I can't get N4 to install. The InstallShield gets up to 100% then I get an error box pop up with a red circle with a white "X" in it. No explaination, just an "X" and then I go back to the desktop. I've upgraded all my drivers, but cannot figure this one out. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Jeff P ABIT KT7A Raid w/AMD 900 T-Bird Hercules 3D Prophet II MX NVIDIA 21.83 Drivers TDK CDRW 12/10/32/ 384 RAM Creative SB LIVE Linksys 100tx Network Card Logitech FF Wheel
May want to try the Raid patch that was posted. If I remember correctly there was an issue with a certain type of this. -- Sincerely, Allen Austin http://www.pso1.com "We Put You in the Driver's Seat" http://www.thomas-superwheel.com "Maker's of the TSW and TSW2" http://www.precision-racing.com Proud Member of Precision Racing Professional Internet Race Team "silverball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I recently upgraded to Windows XP and now I can't get N4 to install. > The InstallShield gets up to 100% then I get an error box pop up with > a red circle with a white "X" in it. No explaination, just an "X" and > then I go back to the desktop. I've upgraded all my drivers, but > cannot figure this one out. > > Any help appreciated. > Thanks, > Jeff P > > ABIT KT7A Raid w/AMD 900 T-Bird > Hercules 3D Prophet II MX NVIDIA 21.83 Drivers > TDK CDRW 12/10/32/ > 384 RAM > Creative SB LIVE > Linksys 100tx Network Card > Logitech FF Wheel
I've seen others who fixed similar XP install problems by following the suggestions to clean up their autoexec.nt found here: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q165/2/14.asp - Eric "silverball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I recently upgraded to Windows XP and now I can't get N4 to install. > The InstallShield gets up to 100% then I get an error box pop up with > a red circle with a white "X" in it. No explaination, just an "X" and > then I go back to the desktop. I've upgraded all my drivers, but > cannot figure this one out.
Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? dave henrie "silverball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> I recently upgraded to Windows XP and now I can't get N4 to install. > The InstallShield gets up to 100% then I get an error box pop up with > a red circle with a white "X" in it. No explaination, just an "X" and > then I go back to the desktop. I've upgraded all my drivers, but > cannot figure this one out. > > Any help appreciated. > Thanks, > Jeff P > > ABIT KT7A Raid w/AMD 900 T-Bird > Hercules 3D Prophet II MX NVIDIA 21.83 Drivers > TDK CDRW 12/10/32/ > 384 RAM > Creative SB LIVE > Linksys 100tx Network Card > Logitech FF Wheel
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kDJH7.16300$[email hidden]... > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > dave henrie Because you have to upgrade your computer to be able to run it.
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kDJH7.16300$[email hidden]... > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > dave henrie Why do people call you Dave? Because you're Dave. Why do people call XP an upgrade? Because it's an upgrade Really rather simple Doug
Correct. Upgrade means an improvement over the existing situation, like moving form Win98 to Win XP. Todd "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9soaua$142st6$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (21 lines)> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kDJH7.16300$[email hidden]... > > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > > dave henrie > > Why do people call you Dave? > > Because you're Dave. > > Why do people call XP an upgrade? > > Because it's an upgrade > > Really rather simple > > > Doug > > >
Dave Henrie wrote: > > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > dave henrie Eh? Mebbe because things just *work* better? (The essence of an upgrade). Not that it's a real hard accomplishment in the M$ realm. :-P -- Fester
Quoted text (7 lines)> > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > > dave henrie > > Eh? Mebbe because things just *work* better? (The essence of an > upgrade). Not that it's a real hard accomplishment in the M$ realm. > :-P > Fester
ahhh things work better in XP...Thats good to know...find the guy in the 'Going over to win2k' thread whose serial port wheel won't work in XP. Tell the guy with the Asus vidcard why N4 locks up under XP. Ask owners of the the Saitek Wheels how much better they work under XP. Check out the updated Software for MS wheels and XP. :) Great upgrade if you ask me... dave henrie
"Douglas Ellison"> > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > > dave henrie > > Why do people call you Dave? > > Because you're Dave. That's not what my wife calls me...it rhymes with A$$hole :) dh
Quoted text (12 lines)> > Why do people call XP an upgrade? > > Because it's an upgrade > > Really rather simple > > > Doug > > >
Dave Henrie wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)> > > > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > > > dave henrie > > > > Eh? Mebbe because things just *work* better? (The essence of an > > upgrade). Not that it's a real hard accomplishment in the M$ realm. > > :-P > > Fester > ahhh things work better in XP...Thats good to know...find the guy in the > 'Going over to win2k' thread whose serial port wheel won't work in XP. Tell > the guy with the Asus vidcard why N4 locks up under XP. Ask owners of the > the Saitek Wheels how much better they work under XP. Check out the updated > Software for MS wheels and XP. :) > Great upgrade if you ask me... > dave henrie
Worth every penny. :-) Don't know... my MSFF wheel works fine for me, it's USB though. Every program I have works, even got Quake 1 with the Malice add-on to work. Only complaint has been the default GF drivers under OpenGL, but that was easily cured through installing 12.90 drivers. -- Fester (Such varied trouble reports kinda remind ya of DirectX updates, no?)
Dave Henrie wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)> > > > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > > > dave henrie > > > > Eh? Mebbe because things just *work* better? (The essence of an > > upgrade). Not that it's a real hard accomplishment in the M$ realm. > > :-P > > Fester > ahhh things work better in XP...Thats good to know...find the guy in the > 'Going over to win2k' thread whose serial port wheel won't work in XP. Tell > the guy with the Asus vidcard why N4 locks up under XP. Ask owners of the > the Saitek Wheels how much better they work under XP. Check out the updated > Software for MS wheels and XP. :) > Great upgrade if you ask me... > dave henrie
I believe that once people figure out how to work around certain stuff, like with some game titles not working properly, and I'm pretty sure there will be workarounds for it if we give it a bit of time, most people will have very few real complaints about XP I'll admit up front that my experience with XP is strictly 2nd hand as of yet, but we installed XP on my brother's Athlon 1.4/512/GF2PRO (I know, embarassing)/yadda yadda yadda, and he hasn't had any complaints yet An avid NHL (EA Sports) player, he uses an old Gravis Gamepad PRO, doesn't even need the the SW from Gravis to get all 10 (?) buttons working, faster frame rates in 3DMarke 2001 than he got in W98SE with same driver revisions etc, and no crashes, he has no complaints so far Another customer had to enable "Win98 compatibility" or something to get Viper Racing to run properly, but no complaints there either Not saying that there are no issues, but just as with Win9x, we need time to get familiar with the OS and it's quirks, once I see a post about people getting V5-5500's to work properly with XP, I'm converting from Win98, I'll still use Win2000 on my office PC though as it has everything I need and is working properly right now, but the first time I need to reinstall it, I'll go with XP You'd almost think I was excited about a MS OS......:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
I agree. It's wonderful. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ecSH7.16839$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> > > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > > > dave henrie > > > > Eh? Mebbe because things just *work* better? (The essence of an > > upgrade). Not that it's a real hard accomplishment in the M$ realm. > > :-P > > Fester > ahhh things work better in XP...Thats good to know...find the guy in the > 'Going over to win2k' thread whose serial port wheel won't work in XP.
Tell > the guy with the Asus vidcard why N4 locks up under XP. Ask owners of the > the Saitek Wheels how much better they work under XP. Check out theupdated > Software for MS wheels and XP. :) > Great upgrade if you ask me... > dave henrie > >
your first mistake was to install XP at this time should of waited till later next year when most of the bugs will be found and pach's should be out. XP is a resourse pig and is full of bugs, but we all will probably be forced to upgrade yes upgrade lol to XP sometime in the future, or wait till the next windows release next year lol. "silverball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> I recently upgraded to Windows XP and now I can't get N4 to install. > The InstallShield gets up to 100% then I get an error box pop up with > a red circle with a white "X" in it. No explaination, just an "X" and > then I go back to the desktop. I've upgraded all my drivers, but > cannot figure this one out. > > Any help appreciated. > Thanks, > Jeff P > > ABIT KT7A Raid w/AMD 900 T-Bird > Hercules 3D Prophet II MX NVIDIA 21.83 Drivers > TDK CDRW 12/10/32/ > 384 RAM > Creative SB LIVE > Linksys 100tx Network Card > Logitech FF Wheel
I think it's fantastic. A huge upgrade IMO. David G Fisher "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kDJH7.16300$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (23 lines)> Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > dave henrie > "silverball" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I recently upgraded to Windows XP and now I can't get N4 to install. > > The InstallShield gets up to 100% then I get an error box pop up with > > a red circle with a white "X" in it. No explaination, just an "X" and > > then I go back to the desktop. I've upgraded all my drivers, but > > cannot figure this one out. > > > > Any help appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Jeff P > > > > ABIT KT7A Raid w/AMD 900 T-Bird > > Hercules 3D Prophet II MX NVIDIA 21.83 Drivers > > TDK CDRW 12/10/32/ > > 384 RAM > > Creative SB LIVE > > Linksys 100tx Network Card > > Logitech FF Wheel > >
You must not be running XP or had the chance to see it work... On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:08:16 GMT, "Bill Clinton" <[email hidden]> wrote: >your first mistake was to install XP at this time should of waited till >later next year when most of the bugs will be found and pach's should be >out. XP is a resourse pig and is full of bugs, but we all will probably be >forced to upgrade yes upgrade lol to XP sometime in the future, or wait till >the next windows release next year lol. >
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 06:04:00 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? Because it's faster, simpler and doesn't crash all the time? The *only* problem I have with it is the GPL sound bug -- since I finally got the voodoo drivers installed, everything is fine and dandy.
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:08:16 GMT, "Bill Clinton" <[email hidden]> wrote: > XP is a resourse pig and is full of bugs, I had all the resources I needed for XP long before I got the upgrade. And I've yet to find any bugs other than the aforementioned GPL sound bug -- every other program I have works fine -- in most cases much better than they ran on ME or 98.
Bill Clinton wrote: > > XP is a resourse pig and is full of bugs, Hmmm... that's a curious statement. On my machine at least ( I don't pretend to speak for anyone else) XP feels lighter & faster than Win98SE did. Nothing at all like ME was. Your statement is very true where ME is concerned however. -- Fester
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:08:16 GMT, "Bill Clinton" <[email hidden]> wrote: >your first mistake was to install XP at this time should of waited till >later next year when most of the bugs will be found and pach's should be >out. XP is a resourse pig and is full of bugs, but we all will probably be >forced to upgrade yes upgrade lol to XP sometime in the future, or wait till >the next windows release next year lol. > My better half instructed the store to install XP on our new PC without my knowledge... But I've only had 2 problems with XP, and both stemmed from an apparent bug wherein XP doesn't recognize or install USB drivers/devices. I threw a PS/2 adapter on my Intellimouse Explorer, and had to manually install a Windows XP driver before I could get the SB Audigy drivers upgrade to install. Everything's hunky dory now. I've installed 4 high-end games on it, and it's only crashed one time (and that was because I tried to alt/F4 out of a game and back in again). Big improvement over my old version of '98. Ms.Goodwrench "Love your enemies in case your friends turn out to be a bunch of bastards." - R.A. Dickson
Oooohhhh, Davy has a woody for XP, I see... Hehe :) -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ecSH7.16839$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> > > Why do people keep calling XP an upgrade? > > > dave henrie > > > > Eh? Mebbe because things just *work* better? (The essence of an > > upgrade). Not that it's a real hard accomplishment in the M$ realm. > > :-P > > Fester > ahhh things work better in XP...Thats good to know...find the guy in the > 'Going over to win2k' thread whose serial port wheel won't work in XP.
Tell > the guy with the Asus vidcard why N4 locks up under XP. Ask owners of the > the Saitek Wheels how much better they work under XP. Check out theupdated > Software for MS wheels and XP. :) > Great upgrade if you ask me... > dave henrie > >
"Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hmmm... that's a curious statement. On my machine at least ( I don't > pretend to speak for anyone else) XP feels lighter & faster than Win98SE > did. Nothing at all like ME was. Your statement is very true where ME > is concerned however. That's what I find too. Once you get rid of all the eye candy and just set it to classic mode anyway. XP is a dynamic OS, it learns what programs you use the most and optimizes the layout of the data on the tracks so that it can be fetched quicker, that's why it feels faster when starting programs up that you use a lot. MS says it takes a few days for it to optimize the layout.
"Ms.Goodwrench" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:08:16 GMT, "Bill Clinton" <[email hidden]>wrote: > But I've only had 2 problems with XP, and both stemmed from an apparentbug wherein XP doesn't > recognize or install USB drivers/devices. I have'nt had that problem with USB devices under XP. My printer is USB and was installed with drivers by XP, same with any other USB device I have attached so far (three game controllers). I was really impressed that it came with drivers for my Epson 870 printer (usb).
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sieI7.64874$[email hidden]... > Oooohhhh, Davy has a woody for XP, I see... > > Hehe :) > > -Larry alright who put the caffiene in -Larry's coffee? dave henrie
LOL! -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gCnI7.24230$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sieI7.64874$[email hidden]... > > Oooohhhh, Davy has a woody for XP, I see... > > > > Hehe :) > > > > -Larry > alright who put the caffiene in -Larry's coffee? > dave henrie > >
On 11 Nov 2001 15:10:50 -0800, [email hidden] (silverball) wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)>I recently upgraded to Windows XP and now I can't get N4 to install. >The InstallShield gets up to 100% then I get an error box pop up with >a red circle with a white "X" in it. No explaination, just an "X" and >then I go back to the desktop. I've upgraded all my drivers, but >cannot figure this one out. > >Any help appreciated. >Thanks, >Jeff P
Here's something to try: make a shortcut to the installation prog, and then tell XP to run the target in a win98 or 2k compatability layer. Also, I hope by upgrade you mean a fresh install of a newer OS, not an actual upgrade. -- Spadge Fromley ''collect your rubbsih and in my belly it will go ...''

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