OK, what steering wheel is best for NASCAR 4?

OK, I've ordered a NEW PC and am getting a cable modem and am planning on racing online at Pappy and wondered which was teh best steering wheel for NASCAR 4? Thanks

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OK, I've ordered a NEW PC and am getting a cable modem and am planning > on racing online at Pappy and wondered which was teh best steering > wheel for NASCAR 4? > > Thanks That's a question of opinion. Your mileage may vary. TSW2 Cup. www.thomas-superwheel.com -- - Will DeRivera - GPL Rank 113.13, damn the 'ring! - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com

ECCI CDS-4000 Monza F1 :-) -Jacob PS.. He asked for the best... not the most reasonable or available :) <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OK, I've ordered a NEW PC and am getting a cable modem and am planning > on racing online at Pappy and wondered which was teh best steering > wheel for NASCAR 4? > > Thanks

TSW2 Modified ... www.thomas-superwheel.com <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OK, I've ordered a NEW PC and am getting a cable modem and am planning > on racing online at Pappy and wondered which was teh best steering > wheel for NASCAR 4? > > Thanks

Minus the 1949 Ford Tractor pedals :-) -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "Jacob Butner" <jbutner@*REMOVE-MEsimracing.org> wrote in message news:9v3iju$art0$[email hidden]... > ECCI CDS-4000 Monza F1 :-) > > -Jacob > > PS.. He asked for the best... not the most reasonable or available :) > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > OK, I've ordered a NEW PC and am getting a cable modem and am planning > > on racing online at Pappy and wondered which was teh best steering > > wheel for NASCAR 4? > > > > Thanks > >

Thomas TSW2 Cup - url same as other guys'. Make sure you add the split axis, $15 addon. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OK, I've ordered a NEW PC and am getting a cable modem and am planning > on racing online at Pappy and wondered which was teh best steering > wheel for NASCAR 4? > > Thanks

Thanks for the input guys, but I think I should have been more specific...I had no idea that there were $225 steering wheels (that is where TSW2 starts). What is the best wheel for a newbie who wants to spend no more than $100? Thanks On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:05:18 -0500, "Jacob Butner" <jbutner@*REMOVE-MEsimracing.org> wrote:

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>ECCI CDS-4000 Monza F1 :-) > >-Jacob > >PS.. He asked for the best... not the most reasonable or available :) ><[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> OK, I've ordered a NEW PC and am getting a cable modem and am planning >> on racing online at Pappy and wondered which was teh best steering >> wheel for NASCAR 4? >> >> Thanks > >

Get your self a Microsoft Sidewinder precision Racing wheel. there are 2 models, one with Force Feedback and one without. Check out Ebay, I got me a spare NON-FF version on there for $25 not too long ago. Our local Sam's club had the ff version for $99 before xmas. the wheels are dependable, and durable but they do not have the "Stick Shifter " like thrustmasters or others. Some people don't like the pedals, but I race barefooted (or slipper footed) and I don't have to nail the pedals to the floor to keep them in one place like I did the Thrustmaster pedals. 4 guys in my shop all race, everyone argues about what is the best trait of the 3 different wheel brands.. It all boils down to quirky reasons some like Chevy's and some like Hondas, Fords or Hemi's... I used to tell everyone that thrustmaster was good enough, that was until I tried the MS wheel (for a month), then went back to Thrustmaster Pro Digital... I gave my thrustmaster Pro Digital to my kids right away and rounded me up 2 sidewinders. PS since then I have sold the Pro Digital, but I have 2 older "NASCAR racing wheels" one is a worn out whore used as spare parts the other is just past broken in plus I still won the t2 in a box in the garage. I really need to toss em. the next choice would be a thrustmaster pro-digital probably because of price limitations. They are at least acceptable if you can get them installed correctly... Remember, bargain wheels can bite you if you have to end up buying them every so often, Like I did the Thrustmasters... if I had the 500 or so I spent total on 4 thrustmasters over the years, I could have almost bought an ECCI wheel back then... <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Thanks for the input guys, but I think I should have been more > specific...I had no idea that there were $225 steering wheels (that is > where TSW2 starts). What is the best wheel for a newbie who wants to > spend no more than $100? > > Thanks > > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:05:18 -0500, "Jacob Butner" > <jbutner@*REMOVE-MEsimracing.org> wrote: > > >ECCI CDS-4000 Monza F1 :-) > > > >-Jacob > > > >PS.. He asked for the best... not the most reasonable or available :) > ><[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> OK, I've ordered a NEW PC and am getting a cable modem and am planning > >> on racing online at Pappy and wondered which was teh best steering > >> wheel for NASCAR 4? > >> > >> Thanks > > > > >

Make sure whatever you get is USB. Avoid any and all GamePort versions like the plague! GamePort versions have real problems under Win2K/XP. Personally, I think the best _overall_ kit is the MSFFW. IMHO, it has the most comfortable pedals going, and the wheel is extremely durable. Pot problems are highly unlikely as they are optical. Once worn in, the gear driven wheel is smooth and quiet. I've got two, with the oldest being 2 years old, and neither has given a hint of a problem. The only down-side to the MSFFW is the SideWinder software. Microsoft's support of the SideWinder is the worst in the industry. It hasn't been updated in like 2 years. It WILL (version 4.0) install under Win2K and XP, but it will gripe that it may not be compatible. Install it anyway as it has been ok. The Momo has a slightly better wheel, but the pedals are, alas, pathetic. I don't understand why Logitech can't get the pedals right after THREE tries. I really love my Momo wheel, but I have the kit for sale for $140 (was $200 New) as my size 12 feet just can't deal with the pedals :( -Larry "Stingre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3c2b378d$[email hidden]... > Get your self a Microsoft Sidewinder precision Racing wheel. there are 2 > models, one with Force Feedback and one without. Check out Ebay, I got mea > spare NON-FF version on there for $25 not too long ago. Our local Sam's > club had the ff version for $99 before xmas. the wheels are dependable,and > durable but they do not have the "Stick Shifter " like thrustmasters or > others. Some people don't like the pedals, but I race barefooted (orslipper > footed) and I don't have to nail the pedals to the floor to keep them inone > place like I did the Thrustmaster pedals. 4 guys in my shop all race, > everyone argues about what is the best trait of the 3 different wheel > brands.. It all boils down to quirky reasons some like Chevy's and some > like Hondas, Fords or Hemi's... I used to tell everyone that thrustmaster > was good enough, that was until I tried the MS wheel (for a month), then > went back to Thrustmaster Pro Digital... I gave my thrustmaster ProDigital > to my kids right away and rounded me up 2 sidewinders. > > PS since then I have sold the Pro Digital, but I have 2 older "NASCARracing > wheels" one is a worn out whore used as spare parts the other is just past > broken in plus I still won the t2 in a box in the garage. I really needto

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> toss em. > > the next choice would be a thrustmaster pro-digital probably because of > price limitations. They are at least acceptable if you can get them > installed correctly... > > Remember, bargain wheels can bite you if you have to end up buying them > every so often, Like I did the Thrustmasters... if I had the 500 or so I > spent total on 4 thrustmasters over the years, I could have almost bought

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> ECCI wheel back then... > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks for the input guys, but I think I should have been more > > specific...I had no idea that there were $225 steering wheels (that is > > where TSW2 starts). What is the best wheel for a newbie who wants to > > spend no more than $100? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:05:18 -0500, "Jacob Butner" > > <jbutner@*REMOVE-MEsimracing.org> wrote: > > > > >ECCI CDS-4000 Monza F1 :-) > > > > > >-Jacob > > > > > >PS.. He asked for the best... not the most reasonable or available :) > > ><[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:[email hidden]... > > >> OK, I've ordered a NEW PC and am getting a cable modem and am

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> > >> on racing online at Pappy and wondered which was teh best steering > > >> wheel for NASCAR 4? > > >> > > >> Thanks > > > > > > > > > >

In article <77IW7.69497$[email hidden]>, "Larry \(The Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes: >Make sure whatever you get is USB. Avoid any and all GamePort versions like >the plague! > >GamePort versions have real problems under Win2K/XP. So then, it's only an issue if he wants to run win2k or xp...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Which most will eventually do. Why buy hardware that is known to be problematic with the latest OS. -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <77IW7.69497$[email hidden]>, "Larry\(The > Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Make sure whatever you get is USB. Avoid any and all GamePort versionslike

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> >the plague! > > > >GamePort versions have real problems under Win2K/XP. > > So then, it's only an issue if he wants to run win2k or xp...<g> > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I am going to be running WinXP...at least for a little while. OK, so from what the feedback Stingre provided, I am planning on purchasing the MS Sidewinder FF tonite as well as NASCAR 4. My PC came last night and I cant wait to start racing. Thanks for the posts and suggestions. See you on Papy soon! On 28 Dec 2001 15:09:46 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>In article <77IW7.69497$[email hidden]>, "Larry \(The >Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes: > >>Make sure whatever you get is USB. Avoid any and all GamePort versions like >>the plague! >> >>GamePort versions have real problems under Win2K/XP. > >So then, it's only an issue if he wants to run win2k or xp...<g> > >Eldred >-- >Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >GPLRank - under construction... > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Why buy an OS if it supports less hardware than the one you're using now? Jason "Larry \(The Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<Ln0X7.1887$[email hidden]>...

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> Which most will eventually do. Why buy hardware that is known to be > problematic with the latest OS. > > -Larry > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <77IW7.69497$[email hidden]>, "Larry > \(The > > Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >Make sure whatever you get is USB. Avoid any and all GamePort versions > like > > >the plague! > > > > > >GamePort versions have real problems under Win2K/XP. > > > > So then, it's only an issue if he wants to run win2k or xp...<g> > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPLRank - under construction... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Act Labs force feedback RS and the performance pedals is ultimate for nearly every race sim. I have gone through a few and for the serious racer this is the wheel. N4,GPL,F12001,GP3 all are excellent. Don't forget the ATI Radeon 8500. Nearly double the frame rate in these games over voodoo3 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I am going to be running WinXP...at least for a little while. > > OK, so from what the feedback Stingre provided, I am planning on > purchasing the MS Sidewinder FF tonite as well as NASCAR 4. My PC came > last night and I cant wait to start racing. > > Thanks for the posts and suggestions. > > See you on Papy soon! > > > On 28 Dec 2001 15:09:46 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > >In article <77IW7.69497$[email hidden]>, "Larry

\(The > >Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > >>Make sure whatever you get is USB. Avoid any and all GamePort versionslike

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> >>the plague! > >> > >>GamePort versions have real problems under Win2K/XP. > > > >So then, it's only an issue if he wants to run win2k or xp...<g> > > > >Eldred > >-- > >Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > >GPLRank - under construction... > > > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > >with experience... > >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. >

That's a reasonalble choice. There may be a few things to gripe about, but the MSFFW is extremely durable, and the pedals are about the best there are, especially if you have big feets :) For $100, I think it's a best-buy. -Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I am going to be running WinXP...at least for a little while. > > OK, so from what the feedback Stingre provided, I am planning on > purchasing the MS Sidewinder FF tonite as well as NASCAR 4. My PC came > last night and I cant wait to start racing. > > Thanks for the posts and suggestions. > > See you on Papy soon! > > > On 28 Dec 2001 15:09:46 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > >In article <77IW7.69497$[email hidden]>, "Larry

\(The > >Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > >>Make sure whatever you get is USB. Avoid any and all GamePort versionslike

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> >>the plague! > >> > >>GamePort versions have real problems under Win2K/XP. > > > >So then, it's only an issue if he wants to run win2k or xp...<g> > > > >Eldred > >-- > >Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > >GPLRank - under construction... > > > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > >with experience... > >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. >

The Act Labs stuff is nice too, but expensive compared to the MSFFW. The MSFFW is a very good value right now. -Larry "lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pYEX7.2670$[email hidden]... > Act Labs force feedback RS and the performance pedals is ultimate fornearly > every race sim. I have gone through a few and for the serious racer thisis > the wheel. N4,GPL,F12001,GP3 all are excellent. Don't forget the ATIRadeon

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> 8500. Nearly double the frame rate in these games over voodoo3 > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I am going to be running WinXP...at least for a little while. > > > > OK, so from what the feedback Stingre provided, I am planning on > > purchasing the MS Sidewinder FF tonite as well as NASCAR 4. My PC came > > last night and I cant wait to start racing. > > > > Thanks for the posts and suggestions. > > > > See you on Papy soon! > > > > > > On 28 Dec 2001 15:09:46 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > > > >In article <77IW7.69497$[email hidden]>, "Larry > \(The > > >Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > >>Make sure whatever you get is USB. Avoid any and all GamePort

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> like > > >>the plague! > > >> > > >>GamePort versions have real problems under Win2K/XP. > > > > > >So then, it's only an issue if he wants to run win2k or xp...<g> > > > > > >Eldred > > >-- > > >Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > >GPLRank - under construction... > > > > > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > >with experience... > > >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > > >

Be my guest. I have no hardware issues with XP. :) -Larry "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Why buy an OS if it supports less hardware than the one you're using now? > > Jason > > "Larry \(The Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<Ln0X7.1887$[email hidden]>...

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> > Which most will eventually do. Why buy hardware that is known to be > > problematic with the latest OS. > > > > -Larry > > > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <77IW7.69497$[email hidden]>, "Larry > > \(The > > > Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > > >Make sure whatever you get is USB. Avoid any and all GamePort

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> > like > > > >the plague! > > > > > > > >GamePort versions have real problems under Win2K/XP. > > > > > > So then, it's only an issue if he wants to run win2k or xp...<g> > > > > > > Eldred > > > -- > > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > > GPLRank - under construction... > > > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then

beats > > you > > > with experience... > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Is the Act Labs better than the Thrustmaster pro FF? Only Racing game I play is N4. On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:50:13 GMT, "lee" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Act Labs force feedback RS and the performance pedals is ultimate for nearly >every race sim. I have gone through a few and for the serious racer this is >the wheel. N4,GPL,F12001,GP3 all are excellent. Don't forget the ATI Radeon >8500. Nearly double the frame rate in these games over voodoo3

The MSFFW is around $100 after the $30 rebate. In this price range, you can't do better. Just make sure you get the USB version and avoid the Gameport version. -Larry "Don" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Is the Act Labs better than the Thrustmaster pro FF? > Only Racing game I play is N4. > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:50:13 GMT, "lee" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Act Labs force feedback RS and the performance pedals is ultimate for

nearly > >every race sim. I have gone through a few and for the serious racer thisis > >the wheel. N4,GPL,F12001,GP3 all are excellent. Don't forget the ATIRadeon > >8500. Nearly double the frame rate in these games over voodoo3 > >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (jason moyer) writes:

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>Why buy an OS if it supports less hardware than the one you're using now? > >Jason > >"Larry \(The Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:<Ln0X7.1887$[email hidden]>... >> Which most will eventually do. Why buy hardware that is known to be >> problematic with the latest OS.

Hehe...I wasn't going to say that...<g> I was just going to say you *know* that patches will probably come out for the hardware. If you're so gung ho and always want the latest and greatest OS, you'll occasionally have to put up with problems... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <zyMX7.10732$[email hidden]>, "Larry \(The Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Be my guest. I have no hardware issues with XP. > >:) > >-Larry > >"jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Why buy an OS if it supports less hardware than the one you're using now? >> >> Jason

A majority seem to...and some of them are quite computer-literate. Yeah, I know - it's not REALLY a majority<g>, but listening to these discussions makes others(including me) say "why bother?" My (home)setup works fine, and I haven't seen ANYTHING in the new OS that gives me a rise...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.