N4: a stupid question

why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or four, when the damn track only has two turns? -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 FJ�SE!

Most Nascar tracks have 4 turns. For instance, at Atlanta, turn 1 is after the start/finish line, and becomes turn 2 at the apex of the turn. Thus turns 3 & 4 are at the other end of the track. Generally turns 1&3 are when you enter a corner, and 2&4 are exiting the corner. Apparently you haven't watched much racing on TV. :) -- -Paul My e-mail address is false. Please reply to this news group. "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or > four, when the damn track only has two turns? > > > -- > Gunnar > #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 > FJ�SE!

Gunnar Horrigmo wrote: > > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or > four, when the damn track only has two turns? Americans have a short attention span, so while we Europeans can focus on a turn that lasts 180 degrees, Americans can't, so they decided to split those long turns in two.... I have no idea why they do this.......:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Lol, we do not have a..............sorry, what did you say, was busy doing something else? <G> -John Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Gunnar Horrigmo wrote: > > > > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or > > four, when the damn track only has two turns? > > Americans have a short attention span, so while we Europeans can focus > on a turn that lasts 180 degrees, Americans can't, so they decided to > split those long turns in two.... > > I have no idea why they do this.......:-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

LOL! --- Joeri J. Cox European Racing League - Taming The NASCAR Tracks Since April 2000 http://www.europeanracingleague.com ERL is proudly sponsored by Thomas Enterprises, makers of the TSW and TSW2 http://www.thomas-superwheel.com Co-founder of 502 Racing http://www.502racing.com "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Gunnar Horrigmo wrote: > > > > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or > > four, when the damn track only has two turns? > > Americans have a short attention span, so while we Europeans can focus > on a turn that lasts 180 degrees, Americans can't, so they decided to > split those long turns in two.... > > I have no idea why they do this.......:-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

I think they use such a terminology not because "they are American" but because it's more practical. Think at your spotter talking about an "accident at the beginning of the first curve" instead of "accident at curve 1". A European "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Gunnar Horrigmo wrote: > > > > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or > > four, when the damn track only has two turns? > > Americans have a short attention span, so while we Europeans can focus > on a turn that lasts 180 degrees, Americans can't, so they decided to > split those long turns in two.... > > I have no idea why they do this.......:-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

"Paul E" <[email hidden]> writes: > Most Nascar tracks have 4 turns. For instance, at Atlanta, turn 1 is after > the start/finish line, and becomes turn 2 at the apex of the turn. Thus > turns 3 & 4 are at the other end of the track. Generally turns 1&3 are when > you enter a corner, and 2&4 are exiting the corner. > > Apparently you haven't watched much racing on TV. :) you're right I haven't seen much oval racing on TV. not only because there is no oval racing on norwegian telly, but also because it's so insanely dull. :) -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 silence is FOO!

Nascar started when there was no TV. At that times you had to go to track to see a race. Since it was, for them, insanely dull, to wait 2 minutes at some corner to see 10 sec. of racing, they invented Nascar. But they wanted more corners, so they split them in two, lol. Now you know. "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Paul E" <[email hidden]> writes: > > you're right I haven't seen much oval racing on TV. not only because > there is no oval racing on norwegian telly, but also because it's so > insanely dull. :) > > > -- > Gunnar > #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 > silence is FOO!

My teacher said there's no such thing as a stoopid question. So I figured it was just stoopid people asking smart questions. Some things to remember about American Ovals. Many are very very BIG. yer spotter saying there is an accident somewhere up ahead for the next half mile isn't very accurate. 2nd, the Indianapolis factor. This big mother has 4 separate turns connected by short straights(chutes we call'em) So when other ovals were built, even those with only two continuous turns, the same naming convention used by Indy was followed. 3rdly...when has America ever worried about how/why the rest of the world does something? Should we rename turn one to Maggots? Turn two Druids? Turn three 'Brought to you by Budwieser, America's most popular Beer, Budwieser Brewing Company, St. Louis Missouri.' Turn 4 could be 'Marlboro turn 4 at the Daytona International Raceway' it just is.... dave henrie "John Hilsman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:51:10 GMT, Gunnar Horrigmo <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or > >four, when the damn track only has two turns? > > LOL that's not a stupid question, it's a pretty good one... > > On the ovals NASCAR counts the entrance and exit, ie turn 1 is > entrance to the first turn, turn 2 is the exit. Turns 3 & 4 are the > 'second' turn, and doglegs don't count. > > >

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> Some things to remember about American Ovals. Many are very very BIG. > yer spotter saying there is an accident somewhere up ahead for the next half > mile isn't very accurate. > 2nd, the Indianapolis factor. This big mother has 4 separate turns > connected by short straights(chutes we call'em) So when other ovals were > built, even those with only two continuous turns, the same naming convention > used by Indy was followed. > 3rdly...when has America ever worried about how/why the rest of the world > does something? Should we rename turn one to Maggots? Turn two Druids? > Turn three 'Brought to you by Budwieser, America's most popular Beer, > Budwieser Brewing Company, St. Louis Missouri.' Turn 4 could be 'Marlboro > turn 4 at the Daytona International Raceway'

that would be cool. on the local racetrack around here, we have a turn called "the butcher". a well fitting name for that particular turn, even if the name is a coincidence lost on most people nowadays. :) -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 myk, trygg og god.

> you're right I haven't seen much oval racing on TV. not only because > there is no oval racing on norwegian telly, but also because it's so > insanely dull. :) Why do you want to play an insanely dull sim?

>"McF" <[email hidden]> wrote > Think at your spotter talking about an "accident at the beginning of the > first curve" instead of "accident at curve 1". Nah, they wouldn't say "curve", it rolls the tongue too much. They use "taahurn" ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www3.sympatico.ca/yves.menard/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"McF" <[email hidden]> writes: > > you're right I haven't seen much oval racing on TV. not only because > > there is no oval racing on norwegian telly, but also because it's so > > insanely dull. :) > > Why do you want to play an insanely dull sim? sure. I wouldn't want to watch, though. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 silence is FOO!

"McF" <[email hidden]> writes: > > you're right I haven't seen much oval racing on TV. not only because > > there is no oval racing on norwegian telly, but also because it's so > > insanely dull. :) > > Why do you want to play an insanely dull sim? I've heard of people that don't like porn, but I don't go around assuming they don't want to get laid. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 FJ�SE!

Sadly, with CMS (I will not call it Lowes, damn't I just did!) that is probably not too far from happening. -Stuart Becktell "John Hilsman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:25:47 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > 3rdly...when has America ever worried about how/why the rest of theworld > >does something? Should we rename turn one to Maggots? Turn two Druids? > >Turn three 'Brought to you by Budwieser, America's most popular Beer, > >Budwieser Brewing Company, St. Louis Missouri.' Turn 4 could be'Marlboro

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> >turn 4 at the Daytona International Raceway' > > I can see it already: the Bud turn at Lowe's Motor Speedway in the > Coca-Cola 600 presented by Red Lobster on NBC in conjunction with > Exide! > > :) > > >

Hey Gunner keep your lame and pointless comments to yourself. BTW I hate that Euro smell, get away. :)

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> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Some things to remember about American Ovals. Many are very very BIG. > > yer spotter saying there is an accident somewhere up ahead for the next half > > mile isn't very accurate. > > 2nd, the Indianapolis factor. This big mother has 4 separate turns > > connected by short straights(chutes we call'em) So when other ovals were > > built, even those with only two continuous turns, the same naming convention > > used by Indy was followed. > > 3rdly...when has America ever worried about how/why the rest of the world > > does something? Should we rename turn one to Maggots? Turn two Druids? > > Turn three 'Brought to you by Budwieser, America's most popular Beer, > > Budwieser Brewing Company, St. Louis Missouri.' Turn 4 could be 'Marlboro > > turn 4 at the Daytona International Raceway' > > that would be cool. on the local racetrack around here, we have a > turn called "the butcher". a well fitting name for that particular > turn, even if the name is a coincidence lost on most people nowadays. :)

That one has almost caught me out on several occasions :-), but I've never actually gone off there, spun a few times though, but the 90 degree left hander leading onto the pit straight is another matter, trying to brake and then turn left with a lightly loaded stone cold RF tire is.......not easy Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--

"Charlie Buscher" <[email hidden]> writes: > Hey Gunner keep your lame and pointless comments to yourself. that'd be a lot easier if you had the wits to use a newsreader that didn't mess up References. > BTW I hate that Euro smell, get away. :) I'd be rude back, if I knew what you were commenting. :) -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 gitaren er en sjingke

Yall liss'n here... The 60's an' 70's wher the days of NASCAR. yall Euros have ne'er had the joy of runnin a Big Block (7.0 liter plus) large Amurkin see'dan flat out on our (then new) Intr'state highway system. There ain't nothin like the soun' of a Big Block op'nin up it's secandary's at 120 + mph. Ya reckon? :-)) -- 1907 - Daytona Beach Florida Glenn H. Curtiss rode a V8 powered motorcycle to a 136.30 mph record in the measured mile. The Chicago Daily News headline reads: "Fastest Mile On Earth, Bullets Are The Only Rivals Of Glenn Curtiss"

american have long sense of humour ??? but short attention span "Joeri Cox" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SwHX7.58881$[email hidden]... > LOL! > --- > Joeri J. Cox > > European Racing League - Taming The NASCAR TracksSince April 2000 > http://www.europeanracingleague.com > > ERL is proudly sponsored by Thomas Enterprises,makers of the TSW and TSW2

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> http://www.thomas-superwheel.com > > Co-founder of 502 Racing > http://www.502racing.com > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Gunnar Horrigmo wrote: > > > > > > why is this dude talking about accidents

happening in turn three or > > > four, when the damn track only has two turns? > > > > Americans have a short attention span, so while weEuropeans can focus > > on a turn that lasts 180 degrees, Americans can't,so they decided to

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> > split those long turns in two.... > > > > I have no idea why they do this.......:-) > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any

other way * > > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com > >

I'm not gunner.... "Charlie Buscher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LbLX7.8756$[email hidden]... > Hey Gunner keep your lame and pointless comments to yourself. BTW I hate > that Euro smell, get away. :) > > > >

You can call the Parabolica one turn if you want, but I know it's two. "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or > four, when the damn track only has two turns? > > > -- > Gunnar > #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 > FJ�SE!

It's only a single 90 deg turn, right ? -Larry "Don Jennings" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ln8Y7.179$[email hidden]...

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> You can call the Parabolica one turn if you want, but I know it's two. > > "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or > > four, when the damn track only has two turns? > > > > > > -- > > Gunnar > > #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�:

2 > > FJ�SE! > >

"Larry \(The Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> "Don Jennings" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ln8Y7.179$[email hidden]... > > "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or > > > four, when the damn track only has two turns? > > > > > You can call the Parabolica one turn if you want, but I know it's two. > > > It's only a single 90 deg turn, right ?

I thought all nascar tursnb were lefties... -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 gitaren er en sjingke

This is a GPL track. -Larry "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Larry \(The Other Larry\)" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > "Don Jennings" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ln8Y7.179$[email hidden]... > > > "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or > > > > four, when the damn track only has two turns? > > > > > > > You can call the Parabolica one turn if you want, but I know it's two. > > > > > It's only a single 90 deg turn, right ? > > I thought all nascar tursnb were lefties... > > > -- > Gunnar > #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 > gitaren er en sjingke

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>Subject: Re: a stupid question >From: Gunnar Horrigmo [email hidden] >Date: 12/30/2001 12:57 PM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > >"Paul E" <[email hidden]> writes: > >> Most Nascar tracks have 4 turns. For instance, at Atlanta, turn 1 is after >> the start/finish line, and becomes turn 2 at the apex of the turn. Thus >> turns 3 & 4 are at the other end of the track. Generally turns 1&3 are >when >> you enter a corner, and 2&4 are exiting the corner. >> >> Apparently you haven't watched much racing on TV. :) > >you're right I haven't seen much oval racing on TV. not only because >there is no oval racing on norwegian telly, but also because it's so >insanely dull. :) > > >-- >Gunnar

How can you intelligently comment on a dullness rating of something you CAN'T WATCH in the first place? You probably think soccer....er football er whatever it is you call it is exciting too... (Don't gimme NOCRAP in E-mail)

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>Subject: Re: N4: a stupid question >From: [email hidden] (John Hilsman) >Date: 12/30/2001 12:01 PM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > >On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:51:10 GMT, Gunnar Horrigmo <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or >>four, when the damn track only has two turns? > >LOL that's not a stupid question, it's a pretty good one... > >On the ovals NASCAR counts the entrance and exit, ie turn 1 is >entrance to the first turn, turn 2 is the exit. Turns 3 & 4 are the >'second' turn, and doglegs don't count. > >

I do have a beef about the spotter when running Daytona and Dega...cause it is more like turn 1 2 and 3....turn 1 isn't long tight enough to be turn 1 and 2 so when I hear spin in turn 2 I'm figuring it should be at the end of the long srtaight not half way through turn 1.....and the term "tri-oval" is descriptive of the shape of the track not that overgrown dogleg on the frontstretch designed to fit in more $eats for customer....er...fans. ....rant over.... (Don't gimme NOCRAP in E-mail)

"PHYDEAUX99" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > You probably think soccer....er football er whatever it is you call it is > exciting too... > Steady, there, big fella.... :-)

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