Hey gang,
I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good when
I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I would
appreciate any tips/advise you might have. Mainly what I will be using it
with is N4 and F12001.
Do I have to set up some sort of profile for each game or does each game
automatically utilize it?
Thanks,
Don Burnette
Setting up a new Logitech Momo force feedback wheel
Don Burnette bought a Logitech Momo, his first force feedback wheel, and asked how to set it up for NASCAR 4 and F1 2001. Others explained the Wingman Profiler and installing the Logitech software for split axes, and shared GPL force feedback settings. Several owners praised the Momo's build quality, and a tongue-in-cheek claim that force feedback was a fad was quickly retracted.
Automated summary.
Hi Don, the Wingman Profiler software has a list of games with profiles for
each of them with the most standard features already set up, or you can
create profiles from scratch for any app that you want to use the wheel
with.....WinVROC, say.....I love mine, use the buttons for all kinds of
stuff, autochat, car reset, back to pits, view standings and such. Make sure
you use the v4.11c drivers to correct any centering probs with the wheel,
get 'em at www.wingmanteam.com and good luck at the track. Ed
"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hey gang,
> I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked goodwhen
> I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, Iwould
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> appreciate any tips/advise you might have. Mainly what I will be using it > with is N4 and F12001. > Do I have to set up some sort of profile for each game or does each game > automatically utilize it? > > Thanks, > > Don Burnette > > >And, for the completely opposite opinion, I have never used the profiler for
my Logitech Wingman Formula Force (LWFF). So either way works, it just
depends on what your needs are.
You DO have to install the Wingman software to get the Logitech-specific
controller setup in Control Panel, where you can enable split axis, set the
force feedback strength, etc. That is separate from the profiler, which is a
little application that runs and displays a "W" icon in your system tray.
Regardless of whether or not you use the profiler, you're probably going to
have to fiddle with some controller settings in each game to get the wheel
working the way you like it.
"Ed White" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hi Don, the Wingman Profiler software has a list of games with profilesfor
> each of them with the most standard features already set up, or you can
> create profiles from scratch for any app that you want to use the wheel
> with.....WinVROC, say.....I love mine, use the buttons for all kinds of
> stuff, autochat, car reset, back to pits, view standings and such. Makesure
it
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> you use the v4.11c drivers to correct any centering probs with the wheel, > get 'em at www.wingmanteam.com and good luck at the track. Ed > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2Ao%7.40367$[email hidden]... > > Hey gang, > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good > when > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I > would > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have. Mainly what I will be usingQuoted text (12 lines)
> > with is N4 and F12001. > > Do I have to set up some sort of profile for each game or does each game > > automatically utilize it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Don Burnette > > > > > > > >
"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Hey gang,
> I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked goodwhen
> I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, Iwould
> appreciate any tips/advise you might have.
Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's a great
wheel, I have to admit.
Ice D
Thanks Ed, I grabbed 4.11.
Don Burnette
"Ed White" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hi Don, the Wingman Profiler software has a list of games with profilesfor
> each of them with the most standard features already set up, or you can
> create profiles from scratch for any app that you want to use the wheel
> with.....WinVROC, say.....I love mine, use the buttons for all kinds of
> stuff, autochat, car reset, back to pits, view standings and such. Makesure
it
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> you use the v4.11c drivers to correct any centering probs with the wheel, > get 'em at www.wingmanteam.com and good luck at the track. Ed > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2Ao%7.40367$[email hidden]... > > Hey gang, > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good > when > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I > would > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have. Mainly what I will be usingQuoted text (12 lines)
> > with is N4 and F12001. > > Do I have to set up some sort of profile for each game or does each game > > automatically utilize it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Don Burnette > > > > > > > >Ohh yeah, this is the way to drive F12001.
This force feedback thing is pretty cool.
Don Burnette
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> > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Hey gang, > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good > when > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I > would > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have. > > Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's a great > wheel, I have to admit. > > Ice D > > >Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year
or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything,
all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and
Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels.
:>
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Pat Dotson
Don Burnette wrote:
>
> Ohh yeah, this is the way to drive F12001.
> This force feedback thing is pretty cool.
>
> Don Burnette
>
> "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey gang,
> > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good
> > when
> > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I
> > would
> > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have.
> >
> > Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's a great
> > wheel, I have to admit.
> >
> > Ice D
> >
> >
> >
I can't say whether it's only a fad or not, but the tweaking/drivers setup
for each sim?.............no thanks, rather be racing :)
-John
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> > > when
> > > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel,I
> > > would
> > > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have.
> > >
> > > Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's agreat
> > > wheel, I have to admit.
> > >
> > > Ice D
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year > or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything, > all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and > Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels. > > :> > -- > Pat Dotson > > Don Burnette wrote: > > > > Ohh yeah, this is the way to drive F12001. > > This force feedback thing is pretty cool. > > > > Don Burnette > > > > "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:g_p%7.13$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey gang, > > > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really lookedGreat, now you tell me.
:)
Don Burnette
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> > > when
> > > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel,I
> > > would
> > > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have.
> > >
> > > Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's agreat
> > > wheel, I have to admit.
> > >
> > > Ice D
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year > or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything, > all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and > Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels. > > :> > -- > Pat Dotson > > Don Burnette wrote: > > > > Ohh yeah, this is the way to drive F12001. > > This force feedback thing is pretty cool. > > > > Don Burnette > > > > "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:g_p%7.13$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey gang, > > > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really lookedHey,
Does it hurt anything to unplug the usb connector from the port on the pc
while the pc is on? Will it lose it's calibration if I do so?
Thanks,
Don Burnette
Don't know; I have a non-ff rig :) However, my usb hotas isn't affected
by doing this.
-John
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> Hey, > Does it hurt anything to unplug the usb connector from the port on the pc > while the pc is on? Will it lose it's calibration if I do so? > > Thanks, > > Don Burnette > > >LOL. I've used them all and now I've got the Momo hooked up with my TSW2
pedals. The Logitech Momo is the closest thing to a TSW with FF that I've
seen yet. This thing is solid and has great FF effects.
- David Cook
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> Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year > or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything, > all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and > Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels. > > :> > -- > Pat DotsonHow did you get your TSW2 pedals hooked up to the Momo?
Don Burnette
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> LOL. I've used them all and now I've got the Momo hooked up with my TSW2 > pedals. The Logitech Momo is the closest thing to a TSW with FF that I've > seen yet. This thing is solid and has great FF effects. > > - David Cook > > "Pat Dotson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year > > or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything, > > all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and > > Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels. > > > > :> > > -- > > Pat Dotson > > > > Why is better technology a bad thing?
You don't like added realism??????
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> > > when
> > > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel,I
> > > would
> > > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have.
> > >
> > > Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's agreat
> > > wheel, I have to admit.
> > >
> > > Ice D
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year > or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything, > all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and > Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels. > > :> > -- > Pat Dotson > > Don Burnette wrote: > > > > Ohh yeah, this is the way to drive F12001. > > This force feedback thing is pretty cool. > > > > Don Burnette > > > > "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:g_p%7.13$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey gang, > > > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked
"Pat Dotson" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year
> or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything,
> all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and
> Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels.
FF doesn't amount to anything? Try Colin McRae Rally (1) with a MOMO, and
drive on one of the 'ice-snow' tracks in Sweden. Feel how the wheel responds
to all the changing surfaces, in mid-race. It felt very realistic to me.
Besides, it's a lot of fun, which is what most people are looking for when
playing games. So my guess is force feedback is here to stay. Wanna bet?
Ice D
To calibrate all you have to do is move the wheel and pedals to the
extremities.
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Steve Levett
"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hey,
> Does it hurt anything to unplug the usb connector from the port on the pc
> while the pc is on? Will it lose it's calibration if I do so?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Don Burnette
>
>
>
I didn't. I bought the USB adapter from TE and they work as their own
controller - they did before as well, but they work better on USB anyways.
My desk is situated perfectly because there is space behind the drawers on
the right where I stash the pedals for the Momo. All the games I care about
support multiple controllers so the TSW2 pedals work fine. If my boys ever
want to jump into something else that doesn't - I have the Logitech pedals
close by.
- David Cook
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TSW2
> > pedals. The Logitech Momo is the closest thing to a TSW with FF thatI've
> > seen yet. This thing is solid and has great FF effects.
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> How did you get your TSW2 pedals hooked up to the Momo? > > Don Burnette > > "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:LLs%7.3613$[email hidden]... > > LOL. I've used them all and now I've got the Momo hooked up with myHe was joking I think...
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> Why is better technology a bad thing? > You don't like added realism?????? > > "Pat Dotson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year > > or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything, > > all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and > > Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels. > > > > :> > > -- > > Pat DotsonI was joking, I think... :) hehe.
Just tweaking the ThomasECCIHyperstim elitists. I'm
the biggest FF advocate the world has ever seen!
For me, there is no sim driving without force feedback.
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Pat Dotson
"David L. Cook" wrote:
>
> He was joking I think...
>
> "Ronnie Bigwhip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Why is better technology a bad thing?
> > You don't like added realism??????
> >
> > "Pat Dotson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:[email hidden]...
> > > Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year
> > > or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything,
> > > all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and
> > > Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels.
> > >
> > > :>
> > > --
> > > Pat Dotson
LOL I agree..driving sucks without force feedback :)
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> I was joking, I think... :) hehe. > > Just tweaking the ThomasECCIHyperstim elitists. I'm > the biggest FF advocate the world has ever seen! > > For me, there is no sim driving without force feedback. > -- > Pat Dotson > > > "David L. Cook" wrote: > > > > He was joking I think... > > > > "Ronnie Bigwhip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Why is better technology a bad thing? > > > You don't like added realism?????? > > > > > > "Pat Dotson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year > > > > or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything, > > > > all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and > > > > Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels. > > > > > > > > :> > > > > -- > > > > Pat DotsonJust bought the new Momo wheel myself. I have my Act labs force RS being
repaired and didn't like going back to the MS Force (Serial) so thought I
would give the Momo a try, so far I like it. I'm using the Act labs
performance pedals with the Momo and it is just as good as the Force RS
without the knotchy feeling.
If anyone has any core.ini settings for GPL to share I would be interested
in trying them.
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> > "Pat Dotson" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year > > or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything, > > all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and > > Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels. > > FF doesn't amount to anything? Try Colin McRae Rally (1) with a MOMO, and > drive on one of the 'ice-snow' tracks in Sweden. Feel how the wheelQuoted text (8 lines)
> to all the changing surfaces, in mid-race. It felt very realistic to me. > Besides, it's a lot of fun, which is what most people are looking for when > playing games. So my guess is force feedback is here to stay. Wanna bet? > > Ice D > > >"Tom Thomas" wrote...
> Just bought the new Momo wheel myself. <snip>
> If anyone has any core.ini settings for GPL to share I would
> be interested in trying them.
In MOMO Properties:
overall 100%
spring 65%
damping 0%
no centering spring
In core.ini:
allow_force_feedback = 1
force_feedback_damping = 60.000000
force_feedback_latency = 0.030000
max_steering_torque = 295.000000
Jan.
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