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GT Legends does anyone have Monza without the Chicanes?

24 posts by 12 people · 06 Jun 2006 05:16 UTC - 04 Jul 2006 04:40 UTC

Request for chicane-free Monza and old Spa for GT Legends

A poster asked for Monza without chicanes and the old Spa for GT Legends, and others wished for 1967 tracks for GTL and rFactor. Political jibes intruded, but Tony Rickard listed on-topic subjects such as GTR2 and the Logitech G25. Dave Henrie explained Simbin used modern tracks because licences and survey data already existed from GTR.

mods/tracks/carsoff-topicGT Legends

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In <[email hidden]> PAPADOC <[email hidden]> writes: >And the old Spa would be marvelous while we are at it. >PAPADOC >My Blog all about politics and the terror war. Perhaps the first time Mr. P-doc says anything reasonable: Yes the old Spa, the Spa of 1967 to the GTL and especially to the rF! Anyone even considering of making it? And the same question of the 1967's Monza, Kyalami, Zandvort, Watkins Glen, etc.? And Finnish Elaintarha? Also it exists as a GPL track... And why not also Chrystal Palace? Etc. of -67? Arto --
Well lordy lordy I know in front of all these European Dhimmis one must be sensible... How is that multicultural experiment going over there? PAPADOC
Quoted text (8 lines)> >Perhaps the first time Mr. P-doc says anything reasonable: Yes the old >Spa, the Spa of 1967 to the GTL and especially to the rF! Anyone even >considering of making it? And the same question of the 1967's Monza, >Kyalami, Zandvort, Watkins Glen, etc.? And Finnish Elaintarha? Also >it exists as a GPL track... And why not also Chrystal Palace? Etc. of -67? > >Arto
My Blog all about politics and the terror war. www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html
PAPADOC <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:
Quoted text (7 lines)> Well lordy lordy I know in front of all these European Dhimmis one > must be sensible... > > How is that multicultural experiment going over there? > > PAPADOC >>
methinks you all are trying to relive your childhood by getting someone to convert GPL tracks to rF. Didn't the Noonan utility make that possible? dh
PAPADOC wrote: > Well lordy lordy I know in front of all these European Dhimmis one must be > sensible... > > How is that multicultural experiment going over there? > Just fine. How's it going in your house?
@ 09 Jun 2006 01:27 UTC↳ reply to Gank#10787
Well actually its not that funny because I really am enjoying GT Legends. Sad to see that America bashing is still the favorite sport here in USENET Land...that is hilarious consideriing what Europe is going through these days. Pretty soon all of you will have duct tape over your mouths to prevent y'all from upsetting your cheap labor. PAPADOC >Kind of funny how this group starts to get political postings and then >PapaDoc shows up. :) >
@ 09 Jun 2006 01:28 UTC↳ reply to Mike Hunt#10788
Better than at your house...no one is making laws that says I have to be quiet or else I will get a hate speech charge leveled at me. PAPADOC >Just fine. How's it going in your house?
Mike Hunt 09 Jun 2006 06:43 UTC↳ reply to @#10791
[email hidden] wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)> Well actually its not that funny because I really am enjoying GT > Legends. Sad to see that America bashing is still the favorite sport > here in USENET Land...that is hilarious consideriing what Europe is > going through these days. Pretty soon all of you will have duct tape > over your mouths to prevent y'all from upsetting your cheap labor. > > PAPADOC > > >>Kind of funny how this group starts to get political postings and then >>PapaDoc shows up. :) >> > >
Sad to see someone who thinks the USA can do no wrong, especial;y under a republican! Sad to see any criticism of the USA dismissed as coming from anti-Americans! BTW, New Orleans...
Gank wrote: > Kind of funny how this group starts to get political postings and then > PapaDoc shows up. :) Well, to be fair, everyone's favorite conservative nut didn't exactly call for political postings. Besides, I'd like a version of Monza without chicanes or old Spa too ;) Regards, Mr. S.
hehe...Mikey, its not that America can do no wrong it is that according to much of the world unable to face the facts of its new dhimmi status America is the only one doing anything wrong. The Dhimmis would much prefer to march off to slavery without anyone raising their voices. When large swaths of the earth believe that it was either the Jews or Bush or them both combined that managed to perpetuate 9/11 we have a serious gap in the reality of the world. Btw New Orleans??? I grew up there and now live just 60 miles away..your point? It was under the Democrats that much of the damage was done. Jimmy Carter allowing Khomeni back into power was absurd as was wringing his hands when those clowns took over the Embassy. Then his Advisors get the bright idea to support Muslims against the Soviets and it all went to shit after that. Then under Clinton where the CIA was destroyed...and a blind eye turned to state sponsored terror. Reagan was complicit in the support the Muslims idiocy as well...and he was, much to his everlasting discredit, responsible for allowing the Hezbollah to chase us out of Lebannon. PAPADOC >Sad to see someone who thinks the USA can do no wrong, especial;y under >a republican! Sad to see any criticism of the USA dismissed as coming >from anti-Americans! > >BTW, New Orleans... My Blog all about politics and the terror war. www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html
PAPADOC wrote: > Btw New Orleans??? I grew up there and now live just 60 miles away..your point? It was a bit of a fuck up.
Mitch_A 11 Jun 2006 16:23 UTC↳ reply to PAPADOC#10656
Lets not forget what Jimmy Carter did with his judicial appointments. The 9th Circuit Court of Appalling is a perfect example of his extreme ineptitude. We may have been a whole lot better off with his brother Billy as president, as history proves daily.. Its gotten way to boring around here. Between consoles and where a z06 got its name Im getting numb... Mitch "PAPADOC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> It was under the Democrats that much of the damage was done. Jimmy Carter > allowing Khomeni back into power was absurd as was wringing his hands when > those > clowns took over the Embassy. Then his Advisors get the bright idea to > support > Muslims against the Soviets and it all went to shit after that. Then under > Clinton where the CIA was destroyed...and a blind eye turned to state > sponsored > terror. > > Reagan was complicit in the support the Muslims idiocy as well...and he > was, > much to his everlasting discredit, responsible for allowing the Hezbollah > to > chase us out of Lebannon. > > PAPADOC >
Mitch_A wrote: > Its gotten way to boring around here. Between consoles and where a z06 > got its name Im getting numb... No interest in GTR2, Matrox Triplehead2go, Logi G25 wheel, Netkar Pro's future, GT Legends addons?
GTR2 sounds interesting but the Starforce "politics" get kinda old, very fast :) The "Conduct" thread seemed a bit more politics than Racesim :) Whats to talk about regarding NKP? Until we hear some facts about its future its kinda hard to talk about. I mentioned the G25 (first, tee-hee) awhile back but its still to far off to be a viable conversation for very long. GTL would be a lot more interesting on the "old tracks" :) As already mentioned numerous times. Im still trying to digest WHY they decided to do old cars on modern (chicane infested tracks) instead of the manly man track of old when "balls" really mattered... The Matox triplehead is very interesting though. Im a bit suspect on its performance. I hope to hear more about it soon as Im about ready for an upgrade. On another note Ive been playing with Windows Vista beta. Havent had a chance to load any games yet but in the short time Ive played around Id have to say Vista is on par with Win98 on its evolutionary path. Much more an evolution (than revolution) than say from win311 to W95 or W98/2k to XP. Looks cute but I don't really care much for cute. Seems a step in the right direction as far as security goes (from the kernel standpoint anyway). I do like the Media Center as part of the OS instead of the OS. Im off to load up rFactor and check it out. Creative as usual has done nearly nothing as far as beta drivers go. 2 Speaker and nothing else. Remember the SB Live wdm drivers? Reminds me of GPAL :) Hopefully your subtle reminder gets me back on track :) Occasionally I need some guidance from a (OT anonymous) sponsor, thks Tony :)) Mitch "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:K5Yig.84309$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Mitch_A wrote: > >> Its gotten way to boring around here. Between consoles and where a z06 >> got its name Im getting numb... > > No interest in GTR2, Matrox Triplehead2go, Logi G25 wheel, Netkar Pro's > future, GT Legends addons?
> > GTL would be a lot more interesting on the "old tracks" :) As already > mentioned numerous times. Im still trying to digest WHY they decided > to do old cars on modern (chicane infested tracks) instead of the > manly man track of old when "balls" really mattered... Because they already had the licenses paid for the modern tracks. They already had all the surveying they needed for the modern tracks. They already had all the track data completed. Thus a year's worth of work was not needed and a year's worth of income was not lost.
Darus 12 Jun 2006 00:46 UTC↳ reply to Mitch_A#10662
Mitch_A wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> GTL would be a lot more interesting on the "old tracks" :) As already > mentioned numerous times. Im still trying to digest WHY they decided to do > old cars on modern (chicane infested tracks) instead of the manly man track > of old when "balls" really mattered... > > Mitch
Because that's the venues that the FIA Historic Racing Championship competes on? Seems like a no brainer there.... Not to be confused with a true desire to run the sim on the old, "ballsy" tracks. That sentiment I agree with entirely. An addon track pack would fit the bill perfectly, but I suspect that we all know it will never happen.
Mitch_A 12 Jun 2006 01:19 UTC↳ reply to Darus#10663
I didnt really consider this series a "real" racing series. I was thinking along the lines of historic races or goodwood (rich man fun races) but I guess I was wrong. Does anyone actually pay to watch these races or are they for the competitors? I wonder if Papy paid licensing fee's for the GPL tracks? Hell, call it Spah and make it as close as possible based on old tape. It bears little resemblance to the new Spa anyway so couldnt it be considered a fantasy track? Mitch "Darus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
Quoted text (8 lines)> Because that's the venues that the FIA Historic Racing Championship > competes on? Seems like a no brainer there.... > > Not to be confused with a true desire to run the sim on the old, > "ballsy" tracks. That sentiment I agree with entirely. An addon track > pack would fit the bill perfectly, but I suspect that we all know it > will never happen. >
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ki3jg.114087$[email hidden]: > I didnt really consider this series a "real" racing series. I was > thinking along the lines of historic races or goodwood (rich man fun > races) but I guess I was wrong. Rich men with expensive rare toys. Usually this type of race piggy- backs with an existing series. > > Does anyone actually pay to watch these races or are they for the > competitors? Yep...historic weekends are run at many more places than just Goodwood. Laguna, Road America, just about any track with some history stands a chance of having an outing.
Quoted text (8 lines)> > I wonder if Papy paid licensing fee's for the GPL tracks? Hell, call > it Spah and make it as close as possible based on old tape. It bears > little resemblance to the new Spa anyway so couldnt it be considered a > fantasy track? > > Mitch >
Now you know ONE of the reasons that 1967 was chosen. I beleive in 1968 the beginnings of a Racing Goverment began to control things. Perhaps even the FIA. Bruce or one of the real historians might know. dave henrie
Seems odd that those chicanes cannot be simply done away with...but don't ask me as I have a hard time merely coding HTML...as anyone who has visited my website will attest to. PAPADOC > Because they already had the licenses paid for the modern tracks. They >already had all the surveying they needed for the modern tracks. They >already had all the track data completed. Thus a year's worth of work was >not needed and a year's worth of income was not lost. My Blog all about politics and the terror war. www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html
PAPADOC wrote: > No doubt but nowhere near the fuck up of a hot summer in France. The French > didn't have th excuse that the city was under water when they allowed 15,000 of > their old to die. Well, you're again proving what a silly nut you are. New Orleans was and always will be an area with high probability of flooding. That hot summer was off the scale. Nobody expected it. Hey, let's put several hundred thousand old people in air conditioned hotel rooms... wait, we don't have them, let's build them! Should only take about 2 days, right? sneeringly
"Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:e7btnr$q7h$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (19 lines)> PAPADOC wrote: >> No doubt but nowhere near the fuck up of a hot summer in France. The >> French >> didn't have th excuse that the city was under water when they allowed >> 15,000 of >> their old to die. > > Well, you're again proving what a silly nut you are. > > New Orleans was and always will be an area with high probability of > flooding. > > That hot summer was off the scale. Nobody expected it. Hey, let's put > several > hundred thousand old people in air conditioned hotel rooms... wait, we > don't > have them, let's build them! Should only take about 2 days, right? > > sneeringly
They'd probably die of Legionnaire's disease from the air-con instead. Head for the hills, we're doomed!!! A
Or maybe lets do what we did in New Orleans that saved so many people...we went back and helped the old people get out of the city...ooops. Guess those summer vacations in France were a mite more important than the old folks. PAPADOC
Quoted text (9 lines)>Well, you're again proving what a silly nut you are. > >New Orleans was and always will be an area with high probability of flooding. > >That hot summer was off the scale. Nobody expected it. Hey, let's put several >hundred thousand old people in air conditioned hotel rooms... wait, we don't >have them, let's build them! Should only take about 2 days, right? > >sneeringly
My Blog all about politics and the terror war. www.papadoc.net/PinkFlamingoBar.html

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