Papy's next game?

Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game will cover? I sort of expected they would have announced something by now. Brian

"Brian Short" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aj50qh$kmj$[email hidden]... > Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game willcover? > I sort of expected they would have announced something by now. > > Brian > > I've seen posts here by Ymenard and a few others (at least I think it was Franc,) that stated Nascar Racing 2003 is next up for the Papy crew. Lately Nr2k2 has been on sale at Best Buy and Circuit City..this is often done to clear shelves of existing product when NEW titles are on the way....Since I don't think we will see another title until Daytona next year, this is jussst a little curious. dave henrie

In article <aj50qh$kmj$[email hidden]>, "Brian Short" <[email hidden]> writes: >Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game will cover? >I sort of expected they would have announced something by now. A NASCAR game - what else..? :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.09 N2002 Rank:+22.329 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Great! I'd sooner see them slowly keep improving on the NASCAR Sim myself. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <aj50qh$kmj$[email hidden]>, "Brian Short" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game willcover?

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> >I sort of expected they would have announced something by now. > > A NASCAR game - what else..? :-( > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.09 > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<%On59.57463$UU1.10902@sccrnsc03>...

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> "Brian Short" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aj50qh$kmj$[email hidden]... > > Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game will > cover? > > I sort of expected they would have announced something by now. > > > > Brian > > > >

I know a beta tester - it's NR2003 (haven't had a chance to actually see it yet, though). Kendt

I figured... oh well, maybe Racing Legends will actually be finished... not that I've really been into ANY games recently, I was just curious what was up in the sim world. Brian "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <aj50qh$kmj$[email hidden]>, "Brian Short" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game willcover?

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> >I sort of expected they would have announced something by now. > > A NASCAR game - what else..? :-( > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.09 > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>"Brian Short" <[email hidden]> wrote > Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game willcover? > I sort of expected they would have announced something by now. Nascar Racing 2003. You don't even need to ask anymore :-/ -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

In article <KRs59.5549$[email hidden]>, "Schooner" <[email hidden]> writes: >Great! I'd sooner see them slowly keep improving on the NASCAR Sim myself. > You and enough other people will be happy enough to keep them in business, which is cool. Some of us get tired of the constant NASCAR assembly line offerings... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.09 N2002 Rank:+22.329 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

So what you're saying is that Papyrus should cater to your wants and forget about what sells best. Novel idea. (-: -- Mike Grandy www.precision-racing.com "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <KRs59.5549$[email hidden]>, "Schooner" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Great! I'd sooner see them slowly keep improving on the NASCAR Sim myself. > > > > You and enough other people will be happy enough to keep them in business, > which is cool. Some of us get tired of the constant NASCAR assembly line > offerings... > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.09 > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>"Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote > So what you're saying is that Papyrus should cater to your wants andforget > about what sells best. Novel idea. (-: A single F1 sells more worldwide then any NASCAR title will ever sell. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Eldred I know how you feel but as you say they are going to make what the market wants and that is NASCAR. If there was a real demand for another sim they would make it but that's life. For me its not an issue as I love NASCAR however variety is the spice of life but I have yet to find another racing sim that holds my interest. The concept that the West's have sounds great and would be great if it ever sees the light of day which I have my doubts. What Papy may need to look at is the expansion pack concept to add new styles into the NASCAR engine perhaps and beat West's at their own game. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <KRs59.5549$[email hidden]>, "Schooner" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Great! I'd sooner see them slowly keep improving on the NASCAR Simmyself.

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> > > > You and enough other people will be happy enough to keep them in business, > which is cool. Some of us get tired of the constant NASCAR assembly line > offerings... > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.09 > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote > If there was a real demand for another sim they would make it but that's > life. There is a real demand for Non-NASCAR sims. Or else, you would only see NASCAR titles on the shelves of computer stores no? There are plenty of non-NASCAR racing sims on the shelves, therefore there is a demand. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"ymenard" > > A single F1 sells more worldwide then any NASCAR title will ever sell. > > But wouldn't you agree that Sierra has NOT pushed the Papyrus Nascar titles 'world wide'? After all, N4 came out in Germany, England and maybe Australia...same with N2k2. Either Sierra doesn't have the cash to work out selling agreements overseas, or they just don't figure there is a market for Heavy, low-tech racers elsewhere. So with that in mind....all the F1 title sales in the world don't matter when looking at the target audience of a Nascar sim. MOST likely...up until EA got into the game, the sales of Papyrus Nascar titles alone was greater than all the F1 titles combined IN USA SALES. Granted F1 has a huge built in audience, but a small part of that is in the US. So Sierra shoots for a BIG part of a smaller pie rather than taking a very small part of a much bigger pie. dave henrie

>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote > But wouldn't you agree that Sierra has NOT pushed the Papyrus Nascar > titles 'world wide'? Yeah, because there is no demand for NASCAR around the world. If they would simply change their mentality (towards non-US buyers, which are still in much greater number then in the US), they would understand that the demand is there, and screaming for serious non-NASCAR simulations. But they are kept in their United States of America vision, that only those people are worthly of having a serious simulation of their kind of motorsport. > So Sierra shoots for a > BIG part of a smaller pie rather than taking a very small part of a much > bigger pie. Yeah that's my point. If they would shoot at the second pie, they would know that their part is much much bigger and (also) sweeter. ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

You may be right, but there are quite a few F1 games out already. Unfortunately F1 isn't very picky in who they license. EA's F1 2002 is pretty fun but no one races it online because of the quality of the multiplayer. -- Mike Grandy www.precision-racing.com "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dqy59.221$%[email hidden]... > >"Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote > > So what you're saying is that Papyrus should cater to your wants and > forget > > about what sells best. Novel idea. (-: > > > A single F1 sells more worldwide then any NASCAR title will ever sell. > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >

Dave Henrie wrote: > > After all, N4 came out in Germany, England and maybe Australia... N4 came out in Norway too.....I sold 4 copies Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

> After all, N4 came out in Germany, England and maybe Australia... N4 came out in Norway too.....I sold 4 copies Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

I'd like to see the comparative sales numbers for that. Not arguing, but being serious. I'd like to see the sales numbers comparing the F1 sims to the Nascar sims. -- Brian Simpson Big "O" Boats - www.bigoboats.com Member Team Lightspeed! - http://www.sportplanet.com/team-lightspeed/ "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dqy59.221$%[email hidden]... > >"Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote > > So what you're saying is that Papyrus should cater to your wants and > forget > > about what sells best. Novel idea. (-: > > > A single F1 sells more worldwide then any NASCAR title will ever sell. > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > > >

and Finland, and AFAIK in Sweden too. -- Mika Takala "Goy Larsen" <"adsales"@get topica.com> kirjoitti viestiss�:UAz59.4658$[email hidden]... > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > After all, N4 came out in Germany, England and maybe Australia... > > N4 came out in Norway too.....I sold 4 copies > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QHy59.236$%[email hidden]... > There is a real demand for Non-NASCAR sims. Or else, you would only see > NASCAR titles on the shelves of computer stores no? There are plenty of > non-NASCAR racing sims on the shelves, therefore there is a demand.Titles on shelves does not equate to any sort of demand....you ever see how poorly the marketing/sales depts. work at most companies? The big problem is that us race simmers thing we make up a large percentage of the pc gaming title market, we don't even rate a drop in the bucket. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash

>"Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote > You may be right, but there are quite a few F1 games out already. > Unfortunately F1 isn't very picky in who they license. EA's F1 2002 is > pretty fun but no one races it online because of the quality of the > multiplayer. Yeah you're right Mike. But there are quite a few NASCAR games out already also no? NASCAR doesn't seem pickup in who they license, considering the number of bad titles throughout the years that had their name sticked on the box. ;) :( -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Brian Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote > Not arguing, but being serious. I'd like to see the sales numberscomparing > the F1 sims to the Nascar sims. GP2, GP3 are multi-million sale softwares just per example. Ubisoft have also sold more then a million copy of F1RS and MGPRS2. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"Mika Takala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gMz59.11$[email hidden]... > and Finland, and AFAIK in Sweden too. > Was it originally released there or did importers bring it in from the countries that had distribution rights?? Just curious. I guess a better way to ask would be to say, was it localized for language etc or did you just resell a German box? dave henrie

Well, I think it was actually inported, as are most of the games here in Finland. Only mainstream games have those awful (or, lately, not anymore so awful) localized manuals. -- Mika Takala "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss�:X4A59.67617$7n5.8597@sccrnsc01... > > "Mika Takala" <[email hidden]> wrote > in message news:gMz59.11$[email hidden]... > > and Finland, and AFAIK in Sweden too. > > > Was it originally released there or did importers bring it in from the > countries that had distribution rights?? Just curious. > I guess a better way to ask would be to say, was it localized for language > etc or did you just resell a German box? > dave henrie > >

and theres me thinking it was because the FIA banned online play :) pez "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uvz59.110107$[email hidden]...

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> You may be right, but there are quite a few F1 games out already. > Unfortunately F1 isn't very picky in who they license. EA's F1 2002 is > pretty fun but no one races it online because of the quality of the > multiplayer. > > > > -- > Mike Grandy > www.precision-racing.com > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:dqy59.221$%[email hidden]... > > >"Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > So what you're saying is that Papyrus should cater to your wants and > > forget > > > about what sells best. Novel idea. (-: > > > > > > A single F1 sells more worldwide then any NASCAR title will ever sell. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > > > > > > >

Dave Henrie wrote:

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> > "Mika Takala" <[email hidden]> wrote > in message news:gMz59.11$[email hidden]... > > and Finland, and AFAIK in Sweden too. > > > Was it originally released there or did importers bring it in from the > countries that had distribution rights?? Just curious. > I guess a better way to ask would be to say, was it localized for language > etc or did you just resell a German box? > dave henrie

There was a European version of N4, it was only imported to Norway because I asked them to get me a few copies for myself and a couple of friends, well, calling Matt and Ed from GPLEA friends is probably not a proper use of the term but I feel generous tonight, I know they brought over some more copies and persuaded other stores to carry it as well as I've later seen it in other stores, which probably wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for 3 hardened sim racing enthusiasts who knew one of the guys who works for Sierra's Norwegian distributor.......Papy should pay me some sort of commission methinks Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> > and Finland, and AFAIK in Sweden too. > Was it originally released there or did importers bring it in from the > countries that had distribution rights?? Just curious. > I guess a better way to ask would be to say, was it localized for language > etc or did you just resell a German box? > dave henrie

There was a European version of N4, it was only imported to Norway because I asked them to get me a few copies for myself and a couple of friends, well, calling Matt and Ed from GPLEA friends is probably not a proper use of the term but I feel generous tonight, I know they brought over some more copies and persuaded other stores to carry it as well as I've later seen it in other stores, which probably wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for 3 hardened sim racing enthusiasts who knew one of the guys who works for Sierra's Norwegian distributor.......Papy should pay me some sort of commission methinks Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

They don't need to announce because everyone _knows_ what it will be. NR2003. They had better damned site fix the AI in this one. The AI has degraded slowly since Nascar Racing 3 to the point where it's nearly impossible to race with them now. They just continually run you right off the race track. It's like racing with 21 clones of Mike Skinner and 21 clones of Robbie Gordon all mixed up around you with the agression switch set to high. One has to wonder if they haven't lost the programmer talent they once had concerning AI programming. -Larry "Brian Short" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aj50qh$kmj$[email hidden]... > Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game willcover? > I sort of expected they would have announced something by now. > > Brian > >

The problem is, it's not improving where it counts. Yeah, the cars are prettier. Yeah, we get to listen to Darrell explain the tracks to us, but that's not what is important. The damage model is canned as all get out. There STILL isn't progressive repairs after all these years. The AI is now completely brain dead, and their only goal is to run you off the track somehow. Those are the things that, IMHO, are degrading, not improving, and they need to be fixed. We're owed a patch in NR2002 for this, but I doubt we ever get it. They have our money by now, and will just wait until the next time the collection plate is passed. -Larry "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KRs59.5549$[email hidden]... > Great! I'd sooner see them slowly keep improving on the NASCAR Simmyself.

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> > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <aj50qh$kmj$[email hidden]>, "Brian Short" > > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game will > cover? > > >I sort of expected they would have announced something by now. > > > > A NASCAR game - what else..? :-( > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPLRank:+8.09 > > N2002 Rank:+22.329 > > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

"Goy Larsen" < Papy should pay me some sort of commission methinks > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy I agree ol boy, and just to show how SERIOUS I am about getting you that commision, I'm NOT gonna buy a Ferrari until you DO get compensated for 4 sales...well, 3 after your own copy right?? dave henrie

"Larry" < > > We're owed a patch in NR2002 for this, but I doubt we ever get it. They > have our money by now, and will just wait until the next time thecollection > plate is passed. > > -Larry > I beleive somebody here already posted that no more patching is forthcomming for N2k2. They have no budget for such work. Notice I didn't say they have no MONEY for such work, but rather no BUDGETED FUNDS. dave henrie (Grant Reeve?? are you busy after work????) :)

In article <9kx59.8627$[email hidden]>, "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> writes: >So what you're saying is that Papyrus should cater to your wants and forget >about what sells best. Novel idea. (-: Well, since you put it that way...yes! <g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.09 N2002 Rank:+22.329 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uvz59.110107$[email hidden]... > You may be right, but there are quite a few F1 games out already. > Unfortunately F1 isn't very picky in who they license. EA's F1 2002 is > pretty fun but no one races it online because of the quality of the > multiplayer. > Main problem here is (I heard of...) that Uncle Bernie (FIA) does not allow (or want more $) better support for MP in EA's franchise. I don't see why things would be different if Papy was to try their hands at delivering us an F1 sim. Just wondering here how come there is no MOD similar to those available for F12001-2002 made for N2002? We could make good use the MP engine! Racing Legend could be the answer to that but, then again I had been expecting WSC for years and never saw the color of it. West were planning a end of the year release date for it....-Preposterous! Denis

guys, the FIA not wanting mp is just RAS voodoo. let it die. coding multiplayer for cars that can change velocity so quickly has to be harder than the gpl cars that have no grip, and the nascars that have no agility. pez "Eden" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:e4P59.12491$[email hidden]...

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> > "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:uvz59.110107$[email hidden]... > > You may be right, but there are quite a few F1 games out already. > > Unfortunately F1 isn't very picky in who they license. EA's F1 2002 is > > pretty fun but no one races it online because of the quality of the > > multiplayer. > > > > Main problem here is (I heard of...) that Uncle Bernie (FIA) does not

allow > (or want more $) better support for MP in EA's franchise. > > I don't see why things would be different if Papy was to try their handsat > delivering us an F1 sim. > > Just wondering here how come there is no MOD similar to those availablefor > F12001-2002 made for N2002? > > We could make good use the MP engine! > > Racing Legend could be the answer to that but, then again I had been > expecting WSC for years and never saw the color of it. West were planninga > end of the year release date for it....-Preposterous! > > Denis > >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<gtC59.38153$[email hidden]>... > It's like racing with 21 clones of Mike Skinner and 21 clones of Robbie > Gordon all mixed up around you with the agression switch set to high. So really, then, it's like racing with 21 clones of Jimmy Spencer? LOL, Gerald

Dave Henrie wrote:

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> > "Goy Larsen" > < Papy should pay me some sort of commission methinks > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > I agree ol boy, and just to show how SERIOUS I am about getting you that > commision, I'm NOT gonna buy a Ferrari until you DO get compensated for 4 > sales...well, 3 after your own copy right?? > dave henrie

Appreciated Dave, knew I could count on you, and yes, that number is correct, although with NR2002 we're up to 5, excluding my own copy Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> "Goy Larsen" > < Papy should pay me some sort of commission methinks > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > I agree ol boy, and just to show how SERIOUS I am about getting you that > commision, I'm NOT gonna buy a Ferrari until you DO get compensated for 4 > sales...well, 3 after your own copy right?? > dave henrie

Appreciated Dave, knew I could count on you, and yes, that number is correct, although with NR2002 we're up to 5, excluding my own copy Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Eden" . >(snip snip here) > Just wondering here how come there is no MOD similar to those availablefor

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> F12001-2002 made for N2002? > > We could make good use the MP engine! > (snip snip there) > Denis > >

There are several reasons why there are no mods for N2k2, the biggest is Papyrus is not into helping the mod builders like the ISI(f1 2kxx) or the MGI(Nascar Heat) teams are. They have coded the tracks and the cars in a very closed architecture, where-as the other guys have used plain 'ol text files and even provided tools to help build new mods. It is kinda odd that Papyrus has gone this route, they were one of the first 'modded' sims back when the private ICR2 guys built the Group C/Imsa bodies for endurance racing.(Heck Papy even snuck a night mode option in for them) The USPits.com has done wonders with modding the earlier Nascar games, N2/N99/N3/NL have all been enhanced with the TPTCC touring car patches. But it has apparently proven vary difficult to alter the cars in both N4 and N2k2. There are some new noses around...like the Audi A4 recently previewed, but that's about the limit so far. Certainly even if somebody figures out the newer carshapes, there is still the hardcoded weight and physics. With the EA/Infogrames titles, changing the way the cars handle and move is relatively easy.(getting it right..that's another matter) And frankly, the high definition body shapes that mods like the FIA or ALMS can provide are huge steps over even the best N3 TPTCC stuff. Hopefully somebody will figure out how to open up the newer Papyrus titles, but I'm no-longer holding my breath.... (still, just to start and UNFOUNDED rumour.) Jan Kohl, the mover and shaker behind the tptcc touring car patches over the years, has been strangely in-active in the TPTCC summer racing schedule....is he...perhaps.....working on something????????? dave henrie

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 22:38:44 -0800, "Brian Short" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game will cover? Large bulky cars that are very good at turning left. Any other questions? ;-)

Goy Larsen schrieb: > Dave Henrie wrote: > >>After all, N4 came out in Germany, England and maybe Australia... > > > N4 came out in Norway too.....I sold 4 copies Admit it, you sold 2 copies to yourself... ;) l8er ronny

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> > Goy Larsen schrieb: > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > >>After all, N4 came out in Germany, England and maybe Australia... > > > > > > N4 came out in Norway too.....I sold 4 copies > > Admit it, you sold 2 copies to yourself... ;)

Why on earth would I want two, I stopped playing N4 after a couple of hours ......., I did keep my personal copy though, I think I have everything Papy has released except for the CTS expansion pack and the original Indy500 game Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> Goy Larsen schrieb: > >>After all, N4 came out in Germany, England and maybe Australia... > > N4 came out in Norway too.....I sold 4 copies > Admit it, you sold 2 copies to yourself... ;)

Why on earth would I want two, I stopped playing N4 after a couple of hours ......., I did keep my personal copy though, I think I have everything Papy has released except for the CTS expansion pack and the original Indy500 game Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

you mean IRL? cool :) pez "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 22:38:44 -0800, "Brian Short" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Have there been any hints as to what Papyrus's next racing game willcover? > > Large bulky cars that are very good at turning left. > > Any other questions? ;-)

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> Ronald Stoehr wrote: > >>Goy Larsen schrieb: >> >>>Dave Henrie wrote: >>> >>> >>>>After all, N4 came out in Germany, England and maybe Australia... >>> >>> >>>N4 came out in Norway too.....I sold 4 copies >> >>Admit it, you sold 2 copies to yourself... ;) > > > Why on earth would I want two, I stopped playing N4 after a couple of > hours ......., I did keep my personal copy though, I think I have > everything Papy has released except for the CTS expansion pack and the > original Indy500 game

Wooosh! Just joking about the "Support Papy, buy two copies of GPL!" campaign... ...and I actually didn't know, you stopped playing N4 so quick, sorry. l8er ronny

Ronald Stoehr wrote: > > Wooosh! > Just joking about the "Support Papy, buy two copies of GPL!" campaign... > ...and I actually didn't know, you stopped playing N4 so quick, sorry. Ah hah :-) Well, I believe in supporting Papy when they do a good job, so I may get a 2nd copy of NR2002, I'm not getting a 2nd copy of N4....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

> Wooosh! > Just joking about the "Support Papy, buy two copies of GPL!" campaign... > ...and I actually didn't know, you stopped playing N4 so quick, sorry. Ah hah :-) Well, I believe in supporting Papy when they do a good job, so I may get a 2nd copy of NR2002, I'm not getting a 2nd copy of N4....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--