Re-Installing N2003?

A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? Thanks, -- Don

First the system. Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core systems? If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003. -Larry "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. > > I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look for, > in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? > > > Thanks, > > > > > -- > Don >

Hmm, I think so, not for sure. Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ? -- Don "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09... > First the system. > > Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core systems? > > If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003. > > -Larry > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. >> >> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look for, >> in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Don >> > >

No, not at all. See this thread: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781&highlight=amd+dual-core -Larry "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hmm, I think so, not for sure. > > Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ? > > > > -- > Don > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09... >> First the system. >> >> Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core systems? >> >> If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003. >> >> -Larry >> >> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. >>> >>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look >>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Don >>> >> >> > >

Hmm, thanks, I will check that out, I am certain after first glance, I probably don't have these two " updates". -- Don "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AsVqg.51972$fG3.44434@dukeread09... > No, not at all. > > See this thread: > > http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781&highlight=amd+dual-core > > -Larry > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Hmm, I think so, not for sure. >> >> Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ? >> >> >> >> -- >> Don >> >> >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09... >>> First the system. >>> >>> Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core systems? >>> >>> If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003. >>> >>> -Larry >>> >>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:[email hidden]... >>>>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. >>>> >>>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look >>>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Don >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Ok, I have installed N2003 and updated to 1.2.0.1 I am running, on an Athlon X2 4400+ , 2gb ram, Radeon X850XT PCIe 256 mb video card, Audigy 2 ZS soundcard, Windows XP Pro SP2 with all udpates. I have not, as of yet, applied the AMD or Microsoft updates, mentioned below. Have run into some problems. After installing and updating to 1.2.0.1, upon initial launch, the game would freeze on the intro sequence. I deleted the intro.bik file, and it started up fine. After setting up for my MS FFB usb wheel, and setting graphics options to high, loaded up Daytona in testing mode. Frame rate wise, getting around 145 fps in testing mode. When exiting the track, the game locks up. One time it didn't, and the short replay clip it showed, the car sounded very high pitched, like a F1 car. Shortly after, when switching screens, it locked up again. Does not crash to desktop, just freezes, no sound, no nothing. Have to power the pc off and power it back on. Any ideas? So far, have only tried running in d3d mode. Thanks, -- Don "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AsVqg.51972$fG3.44434@dukeread09... > No, not at all. > > See this thread: > > http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781&highlight=amd+dual-core > > -Larry > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Hmm, I think so, not for sure. >> >> Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ? >> >> >> >> -- >> Don >> >> >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09... >>> First the system. >>> >>> Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core systems? >>> >>> If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003. >>> >>> -Larry >>> >>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:[email hidden]... >>>>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. >>>> >>>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look >>>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Don >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 18:34:58 -0500, Don Burnette wrote:

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> When exiting the track, the game locks up. One time it didn't, and the short > replay clip it showed, the car sounded very high pitched, like a F1 car. > Shortly after, when switching screens, it locked up again. Does not crash to > desktop, just freezes, no sound, no nothing. Have to power the pc off and > power it back on. > > Any ideas? So far, have only tried running in d3d mode. >

Hi Don, I remember having similar issues with GPL and N2003 on my SBLive, which kind of forced me to update to an audigy 2 zs. After that, both sims ran fine in a similar setup to yours (apart from the cpu, mine's an AMD64 3200+, and the GPU which is an x800gto in my case). Have to tried the old trick and decreased h/w sound acceleration a notch or two, or even down to "basic"? This might help you tune in on the problem, wether it's sound related or something else. Giving OpenGL a try might be something worth looking at, too. All the best & good luck, Uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Hello Don, I had the same issue after my last motherboard upgrade. I went from an EPoX NV2 Ultra based board to a MSI NV4 based board to go to the PCIe Video Card (X1900XTX) and was using a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card as well. I could run a practice session for 30 laps or so, then exit the car to where the replay would be showing. I would get the high pitched sounds, and then the eventual lockup (usually not more than 10 -15 seconds later at most). I searched all over the internet, and found mention of a few cases where the SB card was the problem, and using the newer cards solved the issues. (I did know the model numbers to avoid, but I can't find it at the moment). I didn't have any issues with other games, only NR2003 I have since upgraded to the SB X-Fi card, and all is well. I had one other person tell me that they also upgraded to cure the same issue, but theirs still occurs. So I don't know for sure if the newest card would help or not, but it did cure my issue, which sounds almost identical to yours. I am not running a X2 cpu on my board though. I am using an AMD64 4000+, so I am not sure that the X2 part of your equation would have anything to do with it. Glen Pittman "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Ok, I have installed N2003 and updated to 1.2.0.1 > I am running, on an Athlon X2 4400+ , 2gb ram, Radeon X850XT PCIe 256 mb > video card, Audigy 2 ZS soundcard, > Windows XP Pro SP2 with all udpates. > > I have not, as of yet, applied the AMD or Microsoft updates, mentioned > below. > > Have run into some problems. > > After installing and updating to 1.2.0.1, upon initial launch, the game > would freeze on the intro sequence. I deleted the intro.bik file, and it > started up fine. > > After setting up for my MS FFB usb wheel, and setting graphics options to > high, loaded up Daytona in testing mode. Frame rate wise, getting around > 145 fps in testing mode. > > When exiting the track, the game locks up. One time it didn't, and the > short replay clip it showed, the car sounded very high pitched, like a F1 > car. Shortly after, when switching screens, it locked up again. Does not > crash to desktop, just freezes, no sound, no nothing. Have to power the pc > off and power it back on. > > Any ideas? So far, have only tried running in d3d mode. > > Thanks, > > > -- > Don > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:AsVqg.51972$fG3.44434@dukeread09... >> No, not at all. >> >> See this thread: >> >> http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781&highlight=amd+dual-core >> >> -Larry >> >> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> Hmm, I think so, not for sure. >>> >>> Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Don >>> >>> >>> >>> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09... >>>> First the system. >>>> >>>> Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core systems? >>>> >>>> If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003. >>>> >>>> -Larry >>>> >>>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:[email hidden]... >>>>>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. >>>>> >>>>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look >>>>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Don >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Thanks Glen. I have been considering going ahead and upgrading to the X-Fi card, and I may go ahead and do so, and see if solving this is a nice side benefit to it.. I am running the latest drivers for the Audigy 2 card. -- Don "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SZ6sg.55$[email hidden]... > Hello Don, > > I had the same issue after my last motherboard upgrade. I went from an > EPoX NV2 Ultra based board to a MSI NV4 based board to go to the PCIe > Video Card (X1900XTX) and was using a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card as well. > I could run a practice session for 30 laps or so, then exit the car to > where the replay would be showing. I would get the high pitched sounds, > and then the eventual lockup (usually not more than 10 -15 seconds later > at most). I searched all over the internet, and found mention of a few > cases where the SB card was the problem, and using the newer cards solved > the issues. (I did know the model numbers to avoid, but I can't find it at > the moment). I didn't have any issues with other games, only NR2003 > > I have since upgraded to the SB X-Fi card, and all is well. I had one > other person tell me that they also upgraded to cure the same issue, but > theirs still occurs. So I don't know for sure if the newest card would > help or not, but it did cure my issue, which sounds almost identical to > yours. I am not running a X2 cpu on my board though. I am using an AMD64 > 4000+, so I am not sure that the X2 part of your equation would have > anything to do with it. > > Glen Pittman > > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Ok, I have installed N2003 and updated to 1.2.0.1 >> I am running, on an Athlon X2 4400+ , 2gb ram, Radeon X850XT PCIe 256 mb >> video card, Audigy 2 ZS soundcard, >> Windows XP Pro SP2 with all udpates. >> >> I have not, as of yet, applied the AMD or Microsoft updates, mentioned >> below. >> >> Have run into some problems. >> >> After installing and updating to 1.2.0.1, upon initial launch, the game >> would freeze on the intro sequence. I deleted the intro.bik file, and it >> started up fine. >> >> After setting up for my MS FFB usb wheel, and setting graphics options to >> high, loaded up Daytona in testing mode. Frame rate wise, getting around >> 145 fps in testing mode. >> >> When exiting the track, the game locks up. One time it didn't, and the >> short replay clip it showed, the car sounded very high pitched, like a F1 >> car. Shortly after, when switching screens, it locked up again. Does not >> crash to desktop, just freezes, no sound, no nothing. Have to power the >> pc off and power it back on. >> >> Any ideas? So far, have only tried running in d3d mode. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> -- >> Don >> >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:AsVqg.51972$fG3.44434@dukeread09... >>> No, not at all. >>> >>> See this thread: >>> >>> http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781&highlight=amd+dual-core >>> >>> -Larry >>> >>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:[email hidden]... >>>> Hmm, I think so, not for sure. >>>> >>>> Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Don >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09... >>>>> First the system. >>>>> >>>>> Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core >>>>> systems? >>>>> >>>>> If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003. >>>>> >>>>> -Larry >>>>> >>>>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>> news:[email hidden]... >>>>>>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. >>>>>> >>>>>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look >>>>>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Don >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Brother had same problem....make sure 3d sounds has a check mark in it "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Thanks Glen. > > I have been considering going ahead and upgrading to the X-Fi card, and I > may go ahead and do so, and see if solving this is a nice side benefit to > it.. I am running the latest drivers for the Audigy 2 card. > > > > > > -- > Don > > > > "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:SZ6sg.55$[email hidden]... > > Hello Don, > > > > I had the same issue after my last motherboard upgrade. I went from an > > EPoX NV2 Ultra based board to a MSI NV4 based board to go to the PCIe > > Video Card (X1900XTX) and was using a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card as

well. > > I could run a practice session for 30 laps or so, then exit the car to > > where the replay would be showing. I would get the high pitched sounds, > > and then the eventual lockup (usually not more than 10 -15 seconds later > > at most). I searched all over the internet, and found mention of a few > > cases where the SB card was the problem, and using the newer cardssolved > > the issues. (I did know the model numbers to avoid, but I can't find itat

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> > the moment). I didn't have any issues with other games, only NR2003 > > > > I have since upgraded to the SB X-Fi card, and all is well. I had one > > other person tell me that they also upgraded to cure the same issue, but > > theirs still occurs. So I don't know for sure if the newest card would > > help or not, but it did cure my issue, which sounds almost identical to > > yours. I am not running a X2 cpu on my board though. I am using an

AMD64

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> > 4000+, so I am not sure that the X2 part of your equation would have > > anything to do with it. > > > > Glen Pittman > > > > > > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > >> Ok, I have installed N2003 and updated to 1.2.0.1 > >> I am running, on an Athlon X2 4400+ , 2gb ram, Radeon X850XT PCIe 256

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> >> video card, Audigy 2 ZS soundcard, > >> Windows XP Pro SP2 with all udpates. > >> > >> I have not, as of yet, applied the AMD or Microsoft updates, mentioned > >> below. > >> > >> Have run into some problems. > >> > >> After installing and updating to 1.2.0.1, upon initial launch, the game > >> would freeze on the intro sequence. I deleted the intro.bik file, and

it > >> started up fine. > >> > >> After setting up for my MS FFB usb wheel, and setting graphics optionsto > >> high, loaded up Daytona in testing mode. Frame rate wise, gettingaround > >> 145 fps in testing mode. > >> > >> When exiting the track, the game locks up. One time it didn't, and the > >> short replay clip it showed, the car sounded very high pitched, like aF1 > >> car. Shortly after, when switching screens, it locked up again. Doesnot

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> >> crash to desktop, just freezes, no sound, no nothing. Have to power the > >> pc off and power it back on. > >> > >> Any ideas? So far, have only tried running in d3d mode. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Don > >> > >> > >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:AsVqg.51972$fG3.44434@dukeread09... > >>> No, not at all. > >>> > >>> See this thread: > >>> > >>>

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781&highlight=amd+dual-core

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> >>> > >>> -Larry > >>> > >>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>> news:[email hidden]... > >>>> Hmm, I think so, not for sure. > >>>> > >>>> Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Don > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>>> news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09... > >>>>> First the system. > >>>>> > >>>>> Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core > >>>>> systems? > >>>>> > >>>>> If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Larry > >>>>> > >>>>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>>>> news:[email hidden]... > >>>>>>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939

system. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should Ilook

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> >>>>>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Don > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > >

On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 08:18:01 -0500, Don Burnette wrote:

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> Thanks Glen. > > I have been considering going ahead and upgrading to the X-Fi card, and I > may go ahead and do so, and see if solving this is a nice side benefit to > it.. I am running the latest drivers for the Audigy 2 card. > > >

I'm not running the latest drivers on my Audigy ZS 2. If you want to find out wether it's driver related, let me know and I'll look up the driver version when I get home tonight. cheers, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Question, since you have the Nforce4 chipset, was the onboard sound that bad (or non existant?) all the boards I was looking to upgrade to have onboard sound for the nvidia amd boards... confused, yea probably my part... Don Burnette enlightened us with:

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> A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. > > I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look > for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? > > > Thanks, > > > > > -- > Don

Good suggestion, I do not believe I had 3d sound checked by default, I will check it when I get back in town on Thursday. Thanks, Don "Bonz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fXbsg.59698$[email hidden]... > Brother had same problem....make sure 3d sounds has a check mark in it > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks Glen. > > > > I have been considering going ahead and upgrading to the X-Fi card, andI > > may go ahead and do so, and see if solving this is a nice side benefitto

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> > it.. I am running the latest drivers for the Audigy 2 card. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Don > > > > > > > > "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:SZ6sg.55$[email hidden]... > > > Hello Don, > > > > > > I had the same issue after my last motherboard upgrade. I went from

an > > > EPoX NV2 Ultra based board to a MSI NV4 based board to go to the PCIe > > > Video Card (X1900XTX) and was using a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card as > well. > > > I could run a practice session for 30 laps or so, then exit the car to > > > where the replay would be showing. I would get the high pitchedsounds, > > > and then the eventual lockup (usually not more than 10 -15 secondslater > > > at most). I searched all over the internet, and found mention of afew > > > cases where the SB card was the problem, and using the newer cards > solved > > > the issues. (I did know the model numbers to avoid, but I can't findit > at > > > the moment). I didn't have any issues with other games, only NR2003 > > > > > > I have since upgraded to the SB X-Fi card, and all is well. I had one > > > other person tell me that they also upgraded to cure the same issue,but > > > theirs still occurs. So I don't know for sure if the newest cardwould > > > help or not, but it did cure my issue, which sounds almost identicalto

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> > > yours. I am not running a X2 cpu on my board though. I am using an > AMD64 > > > 4000+, so I am not sure that the X2 part of your equation would have > > > anything to do with it. > > > > > > Glen Pittman > > > > > > > > > > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > >> Ok, I have installed N2003 and updated to 1.2.0.1 > > >> I am running, on an Athlon X2 4400+ , 2gb ram, Radeon X850XT PCIe 256 > mb > > >> video card, Audigy 2 ZS soundcard, > > >> Windows XP Pro SP2 with all udpates. > > >> > > >> I have not, as of yet, applied the AMD or Microsoft updates,

mentioned > > >> below. > > >> > > >> Have run into some problems. > > >> > > >> After installing and updating to 1.2.0.1, upon initial launch, thegame > > >> would freeze on the intro sequence. I deleted the intro.bik file, and > it > > >> started up fine. > > >> > > >> After setting up for my MS FFB usb wheel, and setting graphicsoptions > to > > >> high, loaded up Daytona in testing mode. Frame rate wise, getting > around > > >> 145 fps in testing mode. > > >> > > >> When exiting the track, the game locks up. One time it didn't, andthe > > >> short replay clip it showed, the car sounded very high pitched, likea > F1 > > >> car. Shortly after, when switching screens, it locked up again. Does > not > > >> crash to desktop, just freezes, no sound, no nothing. Have to powerthe

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> > >> pc off and power it back on. > > >> > > >> Any ideas? So far, have only tried running in d3d mode. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Don > > >> > > >> > > >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >> news:AsVqg.51972$fG3.44434@dukeread09... > > >>> No, not at all. > > >>> > > >>> See this thread: > > >>> > > >>> > http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781&highlight=amd+dual-core > > >>> > > >>> -Larry > > >>> > > >>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >>> news:[email hidden]... > > >>>> Hmm, I think so, not for sure. > > >>>> > > >>>> Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Don > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >>>> news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09... > > >>>>> First the system. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core > > >>>>> systems? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -Larry > > >>>>> > > >>>>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >>>>> news:[email hidden]... > > >>>>>>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 > system. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I > look > > >>>>>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Don > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >

I never tried the onboard sound, since i have the audigy 2 ZS, have overall been very pleased with it's performance, and I always heard onboard sound eats more cpu cycles. -- Don "PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MBusg.18209$f76.317@dukeread06... > Question, since you have the Nforce4 chipset, was the onboard sound that > bad (or non existant?) all the boards I was looking to upgrade to have > onboard sound for the nvidia amd boards... confused, yea probably my > part... > Don Burnette enlightened us with: >> A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. >> >> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look >> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Don > >

Ok, got back in town, and made some changes. 1: Installed the amd and winxp dual core patches/udpates Larry recommended. Also noticed, there was a new dual core optimization update there as well, not sure what it does, but went ahead and installed it as well. 2: Checked 3d audio Bonz recommended. Just went and ran a 20% dega, ran great , performance is excellent, and no lock ups. Thanks guys! -- Don "Bonz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fXbsg.59698$[email hidden]... > Brother had same problem....make sure 3d sounds has a check mark in it > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Thanks Glen. >> >> I have been considering going ahead and upgrading to the X-Fi card, and I >> may go ahead and do so, and see if solving this is a nice side benefit to >> it.. I am running the latest drivers for the Audigy 2 card. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Don >> >> >> >> "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:SZ6sg.55$[email hidden]... >> > Hello Don, >> > >> > I had the same issue after my last motherboard upgrade. I went from an >> > EPoX NV2 Ultra based board to a MSI NV4 based board to go to the PCIe >> > Video Card (X1900XTX) and was using a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card as > well. >> > I could run a practice session for 30 laps or so, then exit the car to >> > where the replay would be showing. I would get the high pitched >> > sounds, >> > and then the eventual lockup (usually not more than 10 -15 seconds >> > later >> > at most). I searched all over the internet, and found mention of a >> > few >> > cases where the SB card was the problem, and using the newer cards > solved >> > the issues. (I did know the model numbers to avoid, but I can't find it > at >> > the moment). I didn't have any issues with other games, only NR2003 >> > >> > I have since upgraded to the SB X-Fi card, and all is well. I had one >> > other person tell me that they also upgraded to cure the same issue, >> > but >> > theirs still occurs. So I don't know for sure if the newest card would >> > help or not, but it did cure my issue, which sounds almost identical to >> > yours. I am not running a X2 cpu on my board though. I am using an > AMD64 >> > 4000+, so I am not sure that the X2 part of your equation would have >> > anything to do with it. >> > >> > Glen Pittman >> > >> > >> > >> > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:[email hidden]... >> >> Ok, I have installed N2003 and updated to 1.2.0.1 >> >> I am running, on an Athlon X2 4400+ , 2gb ram, Radeon X850XT PCIe 256 > mb >> >> video card, Audigy 2 ZS soundcard, >> >> Windows XP Pro SP2 with all udpates. >> >> >> >> I have not, as of yet, applied the AMD or Microsoft updates, mentioned >> >> below. >> >> >> >> Have run into some problems. >> >> >> >> After installing and updating to 1.2.0.1, upon initial launch, the >> >> game >> >> would freeze on the intro sequence. I deleted the intro.bik file, and > it >> >> started up fine. >> >> >> >> After setting up for my MS FFB usb wheel, and setting graphics options > to >> >> high, loaded up Daytona in testing mode. Frame rate wise, getting > around >> >> 145 fps in testing mode. >> >> >> >> When exiting the track, the game locks up. One time it didn't, and the >> >> short replay clip it showed, the car sounded very high pitched, like a > F1 >> >> car. Shortly after, when switching screens, it locked up again. Does > not >> >> crash to desktop, just freezes, no sound, no nothing. Have to power >> >> the >> >> pc off and power it back on. >> >> >> >> Any ideas? So far, have only tried running in d3d mode. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Don >> >> >> >> >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> news:AsVqg.51972$fG3.44434@dukeread09... >> >>> No, not at all. >> >>> >> >>> See this thread: >> >>> >> >>> > http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781&highlight=amd+dual-core >> >>> >> >>> -Larry >> >>> >> >>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >>> news:[email hidden]... >> >>>> Hmm, I think so, not for sure. >> >>>> >> >>>> Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Don >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >>>> news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09... >> >>>>> First the system. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core >> >>>>> systems? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -Larry >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >>>>> news:[email hidden]... >> >>>>>>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 > system. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I > look >> >>>>>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Don >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >

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> Ok, got back in town, and made some changes. > > 1: Installed the amd and winxp dual core patches/udpates Larry > recommended. Also noticed, there was a new dual core optimization > update there as well, not sure what it does, but went ahead > and installed it as well. > > 2: Checked 3d audio Bonz recommended. > > Just went and ran a 20% dega, ran great , performance is excellent, > and no lock ups. > > Thanks guys! > > >

The funny thing Don, One of the first things I always used to recomend with ANY Papyrus product that was having problems was to UN-check the 3d sound option. LOL dave henrie

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> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > >> Ok, got back in town, and made some changes. >> >> 1: Installed the amd and winxp dual core patches/udpates Larry >> recommended. Also noticed, there was a new dual core optimization >> update there as well, not sure what it does, but went ahead >> and installed it as well. >> >> 2: Checked 3d audio Bonz recommended. >> >> Just went and ran a 20% dega, ran great , performance is excellent, >> and no lock ups. >> >> Thanks guys! >> >> >> > > The funny thing Don, One of the first things I always used to recomend > with ANY Papyrus product that was having problems was to UN-check the 3d > sound option. LOL >

Lol, yeah, I remember those days! Don

I had exactly the same problem with the sound in N2003 after installing on my new system - Athlon X2 4800+, ASUS A8N-SLI, 2GB RAM, Leadtek Nvidia 7800GTX, Audigy 2ZS. The only way I could get it to run properly was by disabling the Audigy, and using the onboard sound. Maybe I should try the patches!! :) -- RocketMan "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >I never tried the onboard sound, since i have the audigy 2 ZS, have overall >been very pleased with it's performance, and I always heard onboard sound >eats more cpu cycles. > > > > -- > Don > > "PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:MBusg.18209$f76.317@dukeread06... >> Question, since you have the Nforce4 chipset, was the onboard sound that >> bad (or non existant?) all the boards I was looking to upgrade to have >> onboard sound for the nvidia amd boards... confused, yea probably my >> part... >> Don Burnette enlightened us with: >>> A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. >>> >>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look >>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Don >> >> > >

Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although I have since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during a race, upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the game a couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not... Don "RocketMan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:e9h02f$hi8$[email hidden]... > I had exactly the same problem with the sound in N2003 after installingon

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> >> bad (or non existant?) all the boards I was looking to upgrade to have > >> onboard sound for the nvidia amd boards... confused, yea probably my > >> part... > >> Don Burnette enlightened us with: > >>> A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system. > >>> > >>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look > >>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim? > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Don > >> > >> > > > > > >

"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although I have > since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during a race, > upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the game a > couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not... > > Don The more I hear your symptoms, the more it sounds like a sound issue. You might try uninstalling the Audigy in Device Manager and letting it reinstall. You might even try the onboard sound just for grins and see if there is any difference. Ed

"Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:anuvg.70299$[email hidden]... > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although Ihave > > since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during arace,

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> > upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the game a > > couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not... > > > > Don > > The more I hear your symptoms, the more it sounds like a sound issue. You > might try uninstalling the Audigy in Device Manager and letting it > reinstall. You might even try the onboard sound just for grins and see if > there is any difference. > > Ed

Thanks Ed, I may do just that when I get back. I have been looking for a reason to upgrade to the newer X-FI, and may go ahead and get one on order in the near future. Don

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> > "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:anuvg.70299$[email hidden]... >> >> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although I > have >> > since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during a > race, >> > upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the game a >> > couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not... >> > >> > Don >> >> The more I hear your symptoms, the more it sounds like a sound issue. You >> might try uninstalling the Audigy in Device Manager and letting it >> reinstall. You might even try the onboard sound just for grins and see if >> there is any difference. >> >> Ed > > Thanks Ed, I may do just that when I get back. > I have been looking for a reason to upgrade to the newer X-FI, and may go > ahead and get one on order in the near future. > > Don >

Ok, am back in town now. I believe, I have a couple of issues here. First, the overall stability of my system. I have been getting, on occasion, some lockups. Usually, while perusing newsgroups or the web. The frequency, seems to have been reduced, since installing the amd and Ms dual core patches. However, I have had a sneaky suspicion, part of that problem might be from the power supply. My new mb, has a 24 pin connector, and my power supply, only had 20 pin. ( not the additional 4 pin that goes beside the 20). While the mb manual, states that a 20 will work properly if oriented correctly, I will feel better having the full 24 pins in, so I ordered and have received a new Antec 550 watt power supply, with the 20 + 4 pin connector. Have not installed yet, but will sometime today. Secondly, I believe like Ed mentions, I have a sound issue as well. I have been wanting to upgrage to the Creative X-Fi, just needed an excuse, and I guess this is a good enough one. Hopefully, it will help in that area. Newegg had the Creative X-Fi Xtreme music for about 85 bucks, so I went ahead and ordered one today, should be here next week. I will let y'all know, if these help my issues. Thanks to all for all the great feedback, Don

That PS is definitely a concern. Especially if the wattage is low. For 20 pin supplies, ASUS requires a 4-pin supplimental connector (like one of the drive connectors) be attached to a special plug on the MB. At least mine does. I just got a new Antec TruePower 2.0 550w for $65. Problem solved. -Larry "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> >> "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:anuvg.70299$[email hidden]... >>> >>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:[email hidden]... >>> > Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although I >> have >>> > since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during a >> race, >>> > upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the game >>> > a >>> > couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not... >>> > >>> > Don >>> >>> The more I hear your symptoms, the more it sounds like a sound issue. >>> You >>> might try uninstalling the Audigy in Device Manager and letting it >>> reinstall. You might even try the onboard sound just for grins and see >>> if >>> there is any difference. >>> >>> Ed >> >> Thanks Ed, I may do just that when I get back. >> I have been looking for a reason to upgrade to the newer X-FI, and may go >> ahead and get one on order in the near future. >> >> Don >> > > Ok, am back in town now. > > I believe, I have a couple of issues here. > First, the overall stability of my system. I have been getting, on > occasion, some lockups. Usually, while perusing newsgroups or the web. > The frequency, seems to have been reduced, since installing the amd and Ms > dual core patches. > However, I have had a sneaky suspicion, part of that problem might be from > the power supply. My new mb, has a 24 pin connector, and my power supply, > only had 20 pin. ( not the additional 4 pin that goes beside the 20). > While the mb manual, states that a 20 will work properly if oriented > correctly, I will feel better having the full 24 pins in, so I ordered and > have received a new Antec 550 watt power supply, with the 20 + 4 pin > connector. Have not installed yet, but will sometime today. > > Secondly, I believe like Ed mentions, I have a sound issue as well. I have > been wanting to upgrage to the Creative X-Fi, just needed an excuse, and I > guess this is a good enough one. Hopefully, it will help in that area. > Newegg had the Creative X-Fi Xtreme music for about 85 bucks, so I went > ahead and ordered one today, should be here next week. > > I will let y'all know, if these help my issues. > > Thanks to all for all the great feedback, > > Don >

I don't remember exactly what ps I have in this new system, I transferred it from my older system. I think it was around a 500w True Power, will confirm when I take it out. I got the Antec 550W Neo HE, I liked the looks of the modular cables, so I won't have any extras in there to tuck away that I do not use. I just took it out of the box, and it indeed has the 20 + 4 pin configuration. I'll get it installed here in a little bit, work keeps getting in the way :). -- Don "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bt6wg.70798$fG3.39568@dukeread09... > That PS is definitely a concern. Especially if the wattage is low. > > For 20 pin supplies, ASUS requires a 4-pin supplimental connector (like > one of the drive connectors) be attached to a special plug on the MB. > > At least mine does. > > I just got a new Antec TruePower 2.0 550w for $65. Problem solved. > > -Larry > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> >> >> >> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> >>> "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:anuvg.70299$[email hidden]... >>>> >>>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:[email hidden]... >>>> > Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although I >>> have >>>> > since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during a >>> race, >>>> > upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the game >>>> > a >>>> > couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not... >>>> > >>>> > Don >>>> >>>> The more I hear your symptoms, the more it sounds like a sound issue. >>>> You >>>> might try uninstalling the Audigy in Device Manager and letting it >>>> reinstall. You might even try the onboard sound just for grins and see >>>> if >>>> there is any difference. >>>> >>>> Ed >>> >>> Thanks Ed, I may do just that when I get back. >>> I have been looking for a reason to upgrade to the newer X-FI, and may >>> go >>> ahead and get one on order in the near future. >>> >>> Don >>> >> >> Ok, am back in town now. >> >> I believe, I have a couple of issues here. >> First, the overall stability of my system. I have been getting, on >> occasion, some lockups. Usually, while perusing newsgroups or the web. >> The frequency, seems to have been reduced, since installing the amd and >> Ms dual core patches. >> However, I have had a sneaky suspicion, part of that problem might be >> from the power supply. My new mb, has a 24 pin connector, and my power >> supply, only had 20 pin. ( not the additional 4 pin that goes beside the >> 20). While the mb manual, states that a 20 will work properly if oriented >> correctly, I will feel better having the full 24 pins in, so I ordered >> and have received a new Antec 550 watt power supply, with the 20 + 4 pin >> connector. Have not installed yet, but will sometime today. >> >> Secondly, I believe like Ed mentions, I have a sound issue as well. I >> have been wanting to upgrage to the Creative X-Fi, just needed an excuse, >> and I guess this is a good enough one. Hopefully, it will help in that >> area. Newegg had the Creative X-Fi Xtreme music for about 85 bucks, so I >> went ahead and ordered one today, should be here next week. >> >> I will let y'all know, if these help my issues. >> >> Thanks to all for all the great feedback, >> >> Don >> > >

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>I don't remember exactly what ps I have in this new system, I transferred >it from my older system. > I think it was around a 500w True Power, will confirm when I take it out. > > I got the Antec 550W Neo HE, I liked the looks of the modular cables, so I > won't have any extras in there to tuck away that I do not use. > I just took it out of the box, and it indeed has the 20 + 4 pin > configuration. I'll get it installed here in a little bit, work keeps > getting in the way :). > > > > -- > Don > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bt6wg.70798$fG3.39568@dukeread09... >> That PS is definitely a concern. Especially if the wattage is low. >> >> For 20 pin supplies, ASUS requires a 4-pin supplimental connector (like >> one of the drive connectors) be attached to a special plug on the MB. >> >> At least mine does. >> >> I just got a new Antec TruePower 2.0 550w for $65. Problem solved. >> >> -Larry >> >> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> >>> >>> >>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:[email hidden]... >>>> >>>> "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:anuvg.70299$[email hidden]... >>>>> >>>>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>> news:[email hidden]... >>>>> > Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although >>>>> > I >>>> have >>>>> > since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during a >>>> race, >>>>> > upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the >>>>> > game a >>>>> > couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not... >>>>> > >>>>> > Don >>>>> >>>>> The more I hear your symptoms, the more it sounds like a sound issue. >>>>> You >>>>> might try uninstalling the Audigy in Device Manager and letting it >>>>> reinstall. You might even try the onboard sound just for grins and see >>>>> if >>>>> there is any difference. >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>> >>>> Thanks Ed, I may do just that when I get back. >>>> I have been looking for a reason to upgrade to the newer X-FI, and may >>>> go >>>> ahead and get one on order in the near future. >>>> >>>> Don >>>> >>> >>> Ok, am back in town now. >>> >>> I believe, I have a couple of issues here. >>> First, the overall stability of my system. I have been getting, on >>> occasion, some lockups. Usually, while perusing newsgroups or the web. >>> The frequency, seems to have been reduced, since installing the amd and >>> Ms dual core patches. >>> However, I have had a sneaky suspicion, part of that problem might be >>> from the power supply. My new mb, has a 24 pin connector, and my power >>> supply, only had 20 pin. ( not the additional 4 pin that goes beside the >>> 20). While the mb manual, states that a 20 will work properly if >>> oriented correctly, I will feel better having the full 24 pins in, so I >>> ordered and have received a new Antec 550 watt power supply, with the 20 >>> + 4 pin connector. Have not installed yet, but will sometime today. >>> >>> Secondly, I believe like Ed mentions, I have a sound issue as well. I >>> have been wanting to upgrage to the Creative X-Fi, just needed an >>> excuse, and I guess this is a good enough one. Hopefully, it will help >>> in that area. Newegg had the Creative X-Fi Xtreme music for about 85 >>> bucks, so I went ahead and ordered one today, should be here next week. >>> >>> I will let y'all know, if these help my issues. >>> >>> Thanks to all for all the great feedback, >>> >>> Don >>> >> >> > >

Yeah, lemme tell ya! Well, I was reading newsgroups, and blammo, complete system lockup. I decided, now is as a good a time as any, so I put in the new Antec Neo HE power supply. Man, I love the modular design, very convenient. Just plug in the cables you need, and leave out the ones you don't need, eliminating a lot of clutter. Now, I officially have a full 24 pin connector in my motherboard. Time will tell, if it will make any difference, if it does not lock up at all this weekend, I am probably ok. Of course, I do not think this issue is related to my N2003 woes, hopefully, the sound card will help that. May try a quick race later this afternoon though, just for giggles. -- Don "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8e7wg.70805$fG3.43770@dukeread09... > Yeah, that pesky work thing :) > > -Larry > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >>I don't remember exactly what ps I have in this new system, I transferred >>it from my older system. >> I think it was around a 500w True Power, will confirm when I take it out. >> >> I got the Antec 550W Neo HE, I liked the looks of the modular cables, so >> I won't have any extras in there to tuck away that I do not use. >> I just took it out of the box, and it indeed has the 20 + 4 pin >> configuration. I'll get it installed here in a little bit, work keeps >> getting in the way :). >> >> >> >> -- >> Don >> >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:bt6wg.70798$fG3.39568@dukeread09... >>> That PS is definitely a concern. Especially if the wattage is low. >>> >>> For 20 pin supplies, ASUS requires a 4-pin supplimental connector (like >>> one of the drive connectors) be attached to a special plug on the MB. >>> >>> At least mine does. >>> >>> I just got a new Antec TruePower 2.0 550w for $65. Problem solved. >>> >>> -Larry >>> >>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:[email hidden]... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:[email hidden]... >>>>> >>>>> "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>> news:anuvg.70299$[email hidden]... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>>> news:[email hidden]... >>>>>> > Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although >>>>>> > I >>>>> have >>>>>> > since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during >>>>>> > a >>>>> race, >>>>>> > upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the >>>>>> > game a >>>>>> > couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Don >>>>>> >>>>>> The more I hear your symptoms, the more it sounds like a sound issue. >>>>>> You >>>>>> might try uninstalling the Audigy in Device Manager and letting it >>>>>> reinstall. You might even try the onboard sound just for grins and >>>>>> see if >>>>>> there is any difference. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Ed, I may do just that when I get back. >>>>> I have been looking for a reason to upgrade to the newer X-FI, and may >>>>> go >>>>> ahead and get one on order in the near future. >>>>> >>>>> Don >>>>> >>>> >>>> Ok, am back in town now. >>>> >>>> I believe, I have a couple of issues here. >>>> First, the overall stability of my system. I have been getting, on >>>> occasion, some lockups. Usually, while perusing newsgroups or the web. >>>> The frequency, seems to have been reduced, since installing the amd and >>>> Ms dual core patches. >>>> However, I have had a sneaky suspicion, part of that problem might be >>>> from the power supply. My new mb, has a 24 pin connector, and my power >>>> supply, only had 20 pin. ( not the additional 4 pin that goes beside >>>> the 20). While the mb manual, states that a 20 will work properly if >>>> oriented correctly, I will feel better having the full 24 pins in, so I >>>> ordered and have received a new Antec 550 watt power supply, with the >>>> 20 + 4 pin connector. Have not installed yet, but will sometime today. >>>> >>>> Secondly, I believe like Ed mentions, I have a sound issue as well. I >>>> have been wanting to upgrage to the Creative X-Fi, just needed an >>>> excuse, and I guess this is a good enough one. Hopefully, it will help >>>> in that area. Newegg had the Creative X-Fi Xtreme music for about 85 >>>> bucks, so I went ahead and ordered one today, should be here next week. >>>> >>>> I will let y'all know, if these help my issues. >>>> >>>> Thanks to all for all the great feedback, >>>> >>>> Don >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >