West-racing has been updated...
The graphics look just gorgeous but I wonder if I could buy the video card
to run the game.
AL
Skepticism over Racing Legends render on West Racing site
An update to the West Racing site showed attractive images for the long-awaited Racing Legends. Schooner and others dismissed them as 3D Studio Max renders that said little about the actual game, while Doug Ellison, David Powell and Mike defended the developers and argued the renders showed real game assets. The exchange reflected growing impatience over the lack of in-game shots or a demo.
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"lg042-5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> West-racing has been updated...
> The graphics look just gorgeous but I wonder if I could buy the video card
> to run the game.
> AL
>
>
I think it is just a case of good quality and well lit textures rather than
alot of gfx card killing polygons. Looks lovely anyway, showoffs :P
All the best,
Ash
http://www.siroccoracing.com
What's to say this isn't just a drawing?
Don't mean to be negative but nothing about that tells you much, it could be
in game still or a scene that would look great and run at 2 fps.
"lg042-5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> West-racing has been updated...
> The graphics look just gorgeous but I wonder if I could buy the video card
> to run the game.
> AL
>
>
"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> What's to say this isn't just a drawing?
> Don't mean to be negative but nothing about that tells you much, it couldbe
> in game still or a scene that would look great and run at 2 fps.
It's a 3d max render. No secret there.
Doug
Yup, so means little as far as game play goes.
"Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > What's to say this isn't just a drawing?
> > Don't mean to be negative but nothing about that tells you much, itcould
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> be > > in game still or a scene that would look great and run at 2 fps. > > It's a 3d max render. No secret there. > > Doug > >Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out to update the
web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot them
down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it.
"Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out to update the
> web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot them
> down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it.
If I were them - I would have given up a long time ago.
According the webcam - the cat's now on the case :O
DOug
In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>,
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> Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out to update the
> web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot them
> down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it.
At this point, would anybody really care?
And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D
renderings? They are not representative of what the game will look like
if it is ever released so who cares?
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Exactly.
Are they designing the box the game comes in or the game itself.
I think everyone would be more interested in seeing an actual in game shot
of something that an artist concept of what it might look like in the
prefect world.
It's not being negative, its being realistic.
"Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] says...
> > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out to updatethe
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> > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot them > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will look like > if it is ever released so who cares? > > -- > ________________________ > Todd Walker > http://twalker.d2g.com > ________________________its representative as there there the objects they will use you fool....
Todd Walker <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] says...
> > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out to updatethe
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> > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot them > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will look like > if it is ever released so who cares? > > -- > ________________________ > Todd Walker > http://twalker.d2g.com > ________________________I suspect you might or you wouldnt be posting :)
"Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] says...
> > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out to updatethe
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> > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot them > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will look like > if it is ever released so who cares? > > -- > ________________________ > Todd Walker > http://twalker.d2g.com > ________________________Yes it's concept art, nothing more.
It's how that translates to the gaming engine that will be the key.
"David Powell clara.co.uk>" <DavidPowell@<nospam> wrote in message
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> its representative as there there the objects they will use you fool.... > > Todd Walker <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out to update > the > > > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shootQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D > > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will look like > > if it is ever released so who cares? > > > > -- > > ________________________ > > Todd Walker > > http://twalker.d2g.com > > ________________________ > >so ironic, infact the greatest example of irony consistantly used in
newsgroups is the I dont care (yet im posting)....
here is a class example....
<Warren_B> look Powell, i dont care what you think, so go to hell... idiots
like you should be locked away
great isnt it :)
Mike <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I suspect you might or you wouldnt be posting :) > > "Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out to update > the > > > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shootQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D > > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will look like > > if it is ever released so who cares? > > > > -- > > ________________________ > > Todd Walker > > http://twalker.d2g.com > > ________________________ > >Yep, probably right, they have it all looking nice in MAX then pass through
an exporter to make the textures look naff, change all the objects and
generally mess it up.
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> Yes it's concept art, nothing more. > It's how that translates to the gaming engine that will be the key. > > "David Powell clara.co.uk>" <DavidPowell@<nospam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > its representative as there there the objects they will use you fool.... > > > > Todd Walker <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out toQuoted text (9 lines)
> > the > > > > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot > them > > > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > > > > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > > > > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D > > > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will lookQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > if it is ever released so who cares? > > > > > > -- > > > ________________________ > > > Todd Walker > > > http://twalker.d2g.com > > > ________________________ > > > > > >As DP's so kindly informed you <g>, 3DSMax is where the objects for the game
get created before being imported. Plus, it does offer a glimpse of their
aesthetic sense and the "look & feel" they want the game to have. Solid
value in that, even without a 150FPS readout in the corner of the screen.
Besides, have you seen ANY other simracing game screens that looked remotely
as good?
Some real talent there; good on ya, guys - go to it...
SB
"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Exactly. > Are they designing the box the game comes in or the game itself. > I think everyone would be more interested in seeing an actual in game shot > of something that an artist concept of what it might look like in the > prefect world. > It's not being negative, its being realistic. > > "Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out to update > the > > > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shootQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D > > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will look like > > if it is ever released so who cares? > > > > -- > > ________________________ > > Todd Walker > > http://twalker.d2g.com > > ________________________ > >no....they are trackside objects that will implanted into the game (same way
everyone makes game GFX, just ATM with current hardware your cant push em
around at full wack)....Im sure by the time Mr GF5 arrives and the joy of
the 3000hzs CPU itll push images of that render about at full chat on
1024x1024pixel textures without batting an eyelid...
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> Yes it's concept art, nothing more. > It's how that translates to the gaming engine that will be the key. > > "David Powell clara.co.uk>" <DavidPowell@<nospam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > its representative as there there the objects they will use you fool.... > > > > Todd Walker <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out toQuoted text (9 lines)
> > the > > > > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot > them > > > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > > > > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > > > > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D > > > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will lookQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > if it is ever released so who cares? > > > > > > -- > > > ________________________ > > > Todd Walker > > > http://twalker.d2g.com > > > ________________________ > > > > > >Yes I care how RL is going, but I don't care so much to see 3D Studio images
that will not translate directly as shown. I'm interested in seeing real in
game shots which to date there have not been any.
Sorry for sounding negative but to date nothing has been shown proving what
the game will be like. Any artist could replicate what they have shown,
without even knowing anything about racing or sims in general, just take an
old photo and create a similar image in 3D studio.
"David Powell clara.co.uk>" <DavidPowell@<nospam> wrote in message
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> so ironic, infact the greatest example of irony consistantly used in
> newsgroups is the I dont care (yet im posting)....
>
> here is a class example....
>
> <Warren_B> look Powell, i dont care what you think, so go to hell...idiots
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> like you should be locked away > > great isnt it :) > > > Mike <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nH4b9.4645$[email hidden]... > > I suspect you might or you wouldnt be posting :) > > > > "Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out toQuoted text (9 lines)
> > the > > > > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot > them > > > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > > > > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > > > > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D > > > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will lookQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > if it is ever released so who cares? > > > > > > -- > > > ________________________ > > > Todd Walker > > > http://twalker.d2g.com > > > ________________________ > > > > > >these chaps also forget the first image you get as you enter the west site
(lotus49), is very much identical to what id expect to see ingame. Also
should be noted, that you can remove body panels, open doors on cars etc, I
think they still believe RL will look like a load of 2D bitmaps like GPL, a
shocks afoot i think...
Steve Blankenship <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> As DP's so kindly informed you <g>, 3DSMax is where the objects for thegame
> get created before being imported. Plus, it does offer a glimpse of their
> aesthetic sense and the "look & feel" they want the game to have. Solid
> value in that, even without a 150FPS readout in the corner of the screen.
> Besides, have you seen ANY other simracing game screens that lookedremotely
shot
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> as good? > > Some real talent there; good on ya, guys - go to it... > > SB > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:yg4b9.28223$[email hidden]... > > Exactly. > > Are they designing the box the game comes in or the game itself. > > I think everyone would be more interested in seeing an actual in gameQuoted text (9 lines)
> > of something that an artist concept of what it might look like in the > > prefect world. > > It's not being negative, its being realistic. > > > > "Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out toQuoted text (9 lines)
> > the > > > > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot > them > > > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > > > > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > > > > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to see 3D > > > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will lookQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > if it is ever released so who cares? > > > > > > -- > > > ________________________ > > > Todd Walker > > > http://twalker.d2g.com > > > ________________________ > > > > > >It looks like a render to me, and well.. most companys release renders of
their games, before the ingame shots looks good enough. But it gives you an
impression of how it might look like
"lg042-5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> West-racing has been updated...
> The graphics look just gorgeous but I wonder if I could buy the video card
> to run the game.
> AL
>
>
"lg042-5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> West-racing has been updated...
> The graphics look just gorgeous but I wonder if I could buy the video card
> to run the game.
> AL
>
>
dont worry...by the time its gets out they give gf4s for free
You should go proffessional, that joke is so funny and original.
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> "lg042-5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > West-racing has been updated...
> > The graphics look just gorgeous but I wonder if I could buy the videocard
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> > to run the game. > > AL > > > > > > dont worry...by the time its gets out they give gf4s for free > >I say it's most likely a render, same with the opening page car shot.
Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com
"Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "lg042-5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > West-racing has been updated...
> > The graphics look just gorgeous but I wonder if I could buy the videocard
> > to run the game.
> > AL
> >
> >
>
> I think it is just a case of good quality and well lit textures ratherthan
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> alot of gfx card killing polygons. Looks lovely anyway, showoffs :P > > All the best, > Ash > http://www.siroccoracing.com > >All the first screenshots for CMR3 were just renders. I was amaaazed at
first at the 'screenshots', then they released real screenshots and the car
models looked a lot more like car models I'm used to seeing in games.
Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com
"Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Yep, probably right, they have it all looking nice in MAX then passthrough
fool....
3D
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> an exporter to make the textures look naff, change all the objects and > generally mess it up. > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:MJ4b9.28245$[email hidden]... > > Yes it's concept art, nothing more. > > It's how that translates to the gaming engine that will be the key. > > > > "David Powell clara.co.uk>" <DavidPowell@<nospam> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > its representative as there there the objects they will use youQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > > > > Todd Walker <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > In article <FO3b9.4378$[email hidden]>, > > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > > Negative negative negative, they get pestered day in and out to > update > > > the > > > > > web site with news, and when they do always someone ready to shoot > > them > > > > > down. Blimey if I was them I would say sod it. > > > > > > > > At this point, would anybody really care? > > > > > > > > And I think that the point here is, what good does it do us to seeQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > > renderings? They are not representative of what the game will look > like > > > > if it is ever released so who cares? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ________________________ > > > > Todd Walker > > > > http://twalker.d2g.com > > > > ________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > >>"lg042-5" <[email hidden]> wrote
> The graphics look just gorgeous but I wonder if I could buy the video card
> to run the game.
<mumbles and remember the failed promises of "it will run great on a
P3-500!!">
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>"Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Yep, probably right, they have it all looking nice in MAX then passthrough
> an exporter to make the textures look naff, change all the objects and
> generally mess it up.
Uhh Mike, that's what gaming developers have done for all those years.
Really, they all do that, all the time.
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"Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I say it's most likely a render, same with the opening page car shot.
>
> Mike
> http://mikebeauchamp.com
>
Yep, it is - but I think it shows the quality of the textures and models
involved :)
All the best,
Ash


































