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PC vs PS

Matti Kur

PC vs PS

by Matti Kur » Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:04:40

Hi,

I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be
better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin
McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I use
PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals.

I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks, cars,
setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software?

At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions and
advice are more than wellcome.

Thanks,
Matti

Subie25

PC vs PS

by Subie25 » Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:46:26

With the PS2 what you get on the game disk is it.  No mods no patches and
nothing extra.
You are also only limited to the buttons on the controls.  No keyboard

I have both and hardly every use the PS2.  Only use it for Gran Turismo 3.
It will get a workout when Gran Turismo 4 comes out though.


Dan

PC vs PS

by Dan » Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:01:39


As far as I know, sim mods are only applicable to the PC platform so if
you like to use mods then the PC is the way to go.

BTW I notice you are from Finland, very good english.

Dan (mother's maidenname is Ranta)

Dav

PC vs PS

by Dav » Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:25:35


My advice is simple:
If you want GT3 (and soon, GT4), and/or really like the idea of
just turning on a machine, picking up the controller, and playing
an accessible game, get a PS2.  Otherwise, the PC is superior for:
mods, controllers, graphics.  As others have stated, no mods to
patch PS2 software.

But GT3 is *that* good that I suggest getting a PS2 anyway!

Andre Warring

PC vs PS

by Andre Warring » Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:59:15


>But GT3 is *that* good that I suggest getting a PS2 anyway!

Getting a bit off-topic, I never really liked GT3, allthough I
finished most of the races. After a while I noticed I was only playing
to earn that new car or this or that carpart to upgrade it.

The races themselves were quite boring most of the times.. either the
AI was -way- too fast so I had to upgrade my car first (ie race a
couple of boring lower-class races) or I left the AI minutes behind
me, because my car was so much faster. With all these different cars
and parts you allmost never have really close races :-/

But.. GT4 will have the Nordschleife.. who needs AI when you have the
Ring :)

To the original poster: a pc is the way to go for all the reasons
mentioned, I love my PS2 but I would never ever trade it for my pc..

Andre

No On

PC vs PS

by No On » Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:41:05

Gee...I remember when a PS2 was a PC.  I wonder how much they paid to IBM
for the copyright.

> Hi,

> I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be
> better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin
> McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I use
> PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals.

> I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks, cars,
> setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software?

> At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions and
> advice are more than wellcome.

> Thanks,
> Matti

Dav

PC vs PS

by Dav » Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:01:43



>>But GT3 is *that* good that I suggest getting a PS2 anyway!

>Getting a bit off-topic, I never really liked GT3, allthough I
>finished most of the races. After a while I noticed I was only playing
>to earn that new car or this or that carpart to upgrade it.

>The races themselves were quite boring most of the times.. either the
>AI was -way- too fast so I had to upgrade my car first (ie race a
>couple of boring lower-class races) or I left the AI minutes behind
>me, because my car was so much faster. With all these different cars
>and parts you allmost never have really close races :-/

Continuing off-topic ...

Yeah, the races can get tiring.  Especially those seriously long
and monotonous 20+ lappers on the hi-speed oval.  YAWN!  And yes,
I did sometimes just play to complete it (which I did, woohoo!).

Yes, the AI sux.  But ...

Beating an Oreca Viper with a C5R in a 90 lap Laguna Seca race by,
oh, about 0.5 seconds, is a bit of a thrill.

Beat the AI with as lowly a car as you can.  You can have close
races if you set out to.

Or take to beating the game as quickly as you can (less than 1 hr
to get to a 500+ hp $2M Panoz).

Or my favorite: hotlapping.  Beat the loaded fast times in the
Time Trials.  Too easy?  Then take on the world at gt3times.com.  
Make the top 10 and you are a hot shoe indeed.

Then go for the Gold in all the license tests.  Maybe a month, or
two, or 12 later and you are there (if you haven't thrust your
controller fully through your TV).

And by that time, you've paid about $.001/hr of "entertainment".  

And GT4 is right around the corner.

Edwin Kreme

PC vs PS

by Edwin Kreme » Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:07:30


I'm  just about  to throw  the  PC out:  I'm  entirely fed  up with  the
repeated struggle with Windows for years  already (it must be me, I grew
up with UNIX and just can't handle  Windows :-)) and was keeping a PC in
the house  for race sims  only. With the PS2  just dropping EUR  50,- in
price, GT4 (with  Nurburgring "Nordschleife" - who  needs anything else)
approaching, I'm  switching to  PS2. I'm  not a  mods-type either,  so I
won't miss the huge amount of downloads available for the PC platform.

I don't  need many games:  I will probably try  Formula One '04  for the
time being, but  expect to spend 90%  of my time on  the Nordschleife in
simulator mode.

Cheers,

Edwin

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Mark Daviso

PC vs PS

by Mark Daviso » Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:16:48


All I'll say is racing leagues.

I've made friends and meet fellow members regularly at Rockingham (UK).
Actually got a Swiss member coming over to stay for a weekend...

Also it's gotten me involved in "real" motorsport, which is cool.

The community spirit is great :)

Mark
http://www.v8thunder.com/

<MM>

PC vs PS

by <MM> » Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:26:53

What Mark said!
I agree %100

<MM>




> > Hi,

> > I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would be
> > better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin
> > McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I use
> > PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals.

> > I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks, cars,
> > setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software?

> > At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions and
> > advice are more than wellcome.

> All I'll say is racing leagues.

> I've made friends and meet fellow members regularly at Rockingham (UK).
> Actually got a Swiss member coming over to stay for a weekend...

> Also it's gotten me involved in "real" motorsport, which is cool.

> The community spirit is great :)

> Mark
> http://www.v8thunder.com/

Jay

PC vs PS

by Jay » Sat, 28 Aug 2004 03:54:16

 >
 > I'm about to update my hardware and I was wondering which one would
be
 > better, PC or PS2. The games I mainly play are Codamaster's Colin
 > McRae (2, 3 and 4) and Microprose's GP (3 and 4). At the moment I
use
 > PC with FF steering wheel and two pedals.
 >
 > I know that there is a huge variety of download patches, tracks,
cars,
 > setups etc. for PC games, how is it with PS2 software?
 >
 > At the moment I'm pretty strongly towards a new PC. All opinions
and
 > advice are more than wellcome.

Keep this in mind when considering a PS2 or an XBOX for that matter (I
own both, plus a PC).

A console will cost less than half of what a top end video card costs!

The graphics may not be able to compare to a PC, but you'll be running
at a solid 60 fps throughout the game (well almost). Also in the
graphics department, for folks like me, who have an older PC, I find
that I have to turn off half of the graphical features of most new
games anyway, otherwise the framerate is unplayable.

Also, as mentioned above, you won't have all the mod's and tweaks that
are available on a PC, but on the other hand, you'll have access to
titles that are not available on the PC, such as the Gran Turismo and
Project Gotham series.

One other thing to consider....

Both F1 and Nascar have signed licence agrements with the console
makers (F1 with Sony and their PS2, and Nascar with EA and MS with the
XBox) so most, if not ALL new F1 and Nascar games will be either
console exclusive, or will be optimized for the console first, then
ported over (often poorly) to run on a PC later on.


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